19 Aug 01 - 10:38 AM (#531124) Subject: Sporting hero songs? From: McGrath of Harlow There's what you could call a sub-genre of songs about sporting heroes. But so far as I could see, we don't seem to have many in the DT. What I mean is, songs in the same kind of idiom as BOLD THADY QUIL, but more recent.
The reason I was thinking is because the TV cable service we've recently got gives us GAA sports, hurling and Gaelic football, and there's some great matches at present (Up Tipp), and it set me thinking about songs about Christy Ring and others that I've heard, but don't know.
And there's others about ordinary football (soccer) - there's a great one about Jimmy Greaves and his battle with alcoholism And other sports as well.P> I suppose the song about my namesake, Msster McGrath falls into the genre too - as would any about racing horses.
Anyway, if anyone can come up with a few of the songs of that sort it'd be good to have them here. I had a search in the archives but I couldn't find them. |
19 Aug 01 - 11:07 AM (#531139) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: Midchuck Joseph Baker (from Mick Moloney) (distance runner) Pete. |
19 Aug 01 - 11:50 AM (#531162) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: Uncle_DaveO Well, off the top of my head, there's Morrisey and the Russian Sailor, and Stewball. Any others? Dave Oesterreich |
19 Aug 01 - 12:23 PM (#531179) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: raredance Chuck Brodsky has written several about people around baseball: "Moe Berg: The Song" (a catcher in the 1920's-30's); "Lefty" (Steve Carleton a hall of fame pitcher); "Gone To Heaven" (about Max Patkin who was not a player but for half a century entertained during baseball games and was known as the "Clown Prince of Baseball"). Another baseball hero song is "Doing My Job" by John McCutcheon about Cal Ripkin and his 2000+ consecutive game record. "Glory Bound" by James Keelaghan also comes to mind, about a hockey player, although I do not know if it is real or fictional. rich r |
19 Aug 01 - 12:52 PM (#531193) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: Sorcha Casey at the Bat (ok, so it's a poem.....) Is John Peel too early to count? |
19 Aug 01 - 01:29 PM (#531211) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: ard mhacha McGrath, An interesting aside on The Bould Thady Quill. I heard an account of the song on RTE Radio a number of years ago and the person relating the story knew the Thady Quill of the song. He went on to say that the song was a skit on Thady as he was the direct opposite to the hero of our song, being a big inoffensive person.This kind of ironic humour is to be found in a few irish songs. And how about Johnny Thompson, this song was written after the accidental death during a match of the Glagow Celtic Goalkeeper. This happened around the mid 1930`s. Slan Ard Mhacha. |
19 Aug 01 - 02:48 PM (#531252) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: Gareth Mention it not outside of Wales, but try a delve into Max Boyce. Or possibly not in view of current Rugby form. Gareth |
19 Aug 01 - 05:17 PM (#531324) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: McGrath of Harlow There's a song lamenting/celebrating the great days of hurling that I heard, centring round some great hurler that had just died, and I just can't remember a word of it. I'm hoping someone come up with that one.
(Mind I'd say the great days of hurling are still with us, from the match I've been watching.) |
19 Aug 01 - 05:19 PM (#531325) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: Callie Australian singer/songwriter has a song titled ´Bradman´about the cricket legend Don Bradman who died recently. The song is about 15 years old. Callie |
19 Aug 01 - 07:20 PM (#531399) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: Gareth Mind back into gear - far too many pints of Breakspears at the Bell at Grove. Max Boyce. Compilations - "Live at Treorchy" & "We all had Doctors Papers".
Special Mentions. Gareth |
19 Aug 01 - 07:23 PM (#531401) Subject: Lyr Add: JOHNNY THOMPSON From: McGrath of Harlow Well, here is JOHNNY THOMPSON(from Alex Campbell's songbook - not that Alex wrote it, or ever suggested he did). John Thompson was killed when he dived at the ball at the feet of Rangers'forward Dammy English, and was accidentally booted in the head.
There was a lad named Johnny Thompson
On the 5th day ofSeptember,
I took a trip to Parkhead
A famous face was missing
The fans they now are silent,
So come on Glasgow Celtic |
20 Aug 01 - 05:32 PM (#532034) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: McGrath of Harlow There are couple of sprting songs in the DT - there is The Football Match, and the Last Game of the Season.
But what I'm after are the ones with names and places, the ones that displace the imagery of the warrior into th e context of sporting campaigns. |
20 Aug 01 - 06:28 PM (#532073) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: Kim Hughes A couple that come to mind are "He's Fitbaa' [football] Crazy, He's Fitbaa' Mad" and "Old Bob Ridley" (which I guess is more a boasting song, but all the boasts are about sports.) A.L.Lloyd did a whole record of these, possibly with Ewan MacColl. I don't have the reference to hand, but could track it down if requested. cheers, kim |
20 Aug 01 - 06:43 PM (#532077) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: GUEST,Neil Comer There's always Master McGrath (even though he was a greyhound) and Stewball |
20 Aug 01 - 06:53 PM (#532081) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: nutty How about John Peel (D'ye ken John Peel) and Bellman (he was a "proper" hound) |
20 Aug 01 - 07:10 PM (#532084) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: Susanne (skw) Benny Lynch, Who Killed Davy Moore?, and Flowers of Manchester |
20 Aug 01 - 07:58 PM (#532106) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: Steve Latimer Catfish by Bob Dylan about pitcher Catfish Hunter. It was covered by Joe Cocker.
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20 Aug 01 - 08:22 PM (#532121) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: Mark Cohen Fred Small has one about a retired college basketball coach, "Jimmy Come Lately" (it's a true story; I'm still trying to find out the name of the coach). And Stan Rogers did one about a hockey coach; I can't remember the name just now. Since I referee kids' soccer games but don't play myself, I like the ones about the ones who help out! Aloha, Mark |
20 Aug 01 - 08:35 PM (#532129) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: McGrath of Harlow I remember that one, Jimmy come lately - just the other day for some reason I was looking over that thread where you posted it, Mark.
That might have been one of the things that set me thinking about this thread. That and watching a game of hurling - the thing about hurling is that it is an oddly heroic game, a succession of skirmishes, and feats of skill and daring.
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20 Aug 01 - 08:54 PM (#532136) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: Mark Cohen The Stan Rogers song is Flying. And in looking for it I found a fantastic Stan Rogers website that I never knew about. Aloha, Mark |
20 Aug 01 - 10:06 PM (#532167) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: dick greenhaus If you're interested in how the popular culture of the 1930s dealt with a sports hero, Rounder has issued a CD of songs (pop and folk) that celebrated Joe Louis. $12.98 at CAMSCO. |
21 Aug 01 - 03:28 AM (#532271) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: GUEST I think the second line of Johnny Thompson is "From the Wellesley Fife he came". That is the only way I've ever heard it. Tune similar to Noreen Bawn. ONe song not mentioned - "The Gallant John Joe" about John Joe O'Reillly who played Gaelic for Cavan. |
21 Aug 01 - 04:11 AM (#532283) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: Mark Cohen For a different kind of heroism in sports, take a look at Nine Gold Medals. It's been recorded by David Roth, who wrote it, and also by Rebel Voices (another shameless plug for my friends Janet Stecher and Susan Lewis, who are worth a listen -- as is David). It's worth remembering that the race is not always to the swift. Aloha, Mark |
21 Aug 01 - 04:58 AM (#532297) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler I think (but you know how reliable my memory is!)that the Critics group in UK did a song about a boxer. Randolph Turpin?? There was a novelty record by several UK snoker players a few years ago, thankfully CRS has erased it from memory, it was dreadful. Those of you of a more traditional bent probably know lots of broadsides about bare-knuckle fighters, wobblers (endurance walkers) etc. RtS (any songs about dominoes or bowls I wonder?) |
21 Aug 01 - 05:15 AM (#532304) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: McGrath of Harlow "The Gallant John Joe" about John Joe O'Reillly who played Gaelic for Cavan.
Now could you point us in the direction if those words? |
21 Aug 01 - 08:03 AM (#532349) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: ard mhacha McGrath, Here it is, Lament for John Joe O` Reilly. God rest you John Joe O`Reilly, `neath each cold November air, As the grey dust falls so quickly round the plains of old Kildare. God rest and keep you John Joe may your memory last in Fame, Throughout each hill in Ulster and your own loved Cornafean. 2 God rest you John Joe Reilly, Neath each bright November star, Where his hero tales are told to-night, by firesides near and far, While by quite lakes in Cavan men can hear the Banshee wail, For the bravest hearts of Breifne and the pride of all the Gael. 3 They will grieve for him in Kerry, throughout Mayo, Louth and Cork, While his comrades go in mourning through the sidewalks of New York, Where the Yankees they did cheer him on that ne`er forgotten day, When victory was found three thousand miles away. 4 God rest you John Joe Reilly, that`s the prayer of royal Meath, But his loss is felt the keenest on his native Ulster heath, Through the length and breadth of Breifne they are singing one refrain, God rest you John Joe Reilly you were the pride of Cornafean. 5 We bless and keep you in our prayers, may he count you with his own, While Ulster mourns your passing from the Ards to Inishowen, God rest you and keep you John Joe and we pray for you to-day, While Cavan lost their bravest man on a cold November John Joe O`Reilly captained the Cavan Gaelic football team in the Polo Grounds New York in 1947, Cavan beat Kerry in the only All-Ireland Final to be played outside of Ireland. McGrath there are numerous songs connected with sporting heroes of Gaelic games. And thanks for the Johnny Thompson song. Slan Ard Mhacha.
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21 Aug 01 - 09:27 AM (#532392) Subject: Lyr Add: LAMENT FOR JOHN JOE O` REILLY From: McGrath of Harlow There are numerous songs connected with sporting heroes of Gaelic games.
And that's exactly what I'm hoping we'll get out of this thread (and other stuff too maybe). Thanks - and I've put in the line breaks.
Lament for John Joe O` Reilly.
God rest you John Joe O`Reilly,
God rest you John Joe Reilly,
They will grieve for him in Kerry,
God rest you John Joe Reilly,
We bless and keep you in our prayers, |
21 Aug 01 - 12:11 PM (#532505) Subject: Lyr Add: THE GREAT JOE BOB From: Stewie Here is one from the inimitable Terry Allen:
THE GREAT JOE BOB ( A Regional Tragedy) --Stewie.
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21 Aug 01 - 01:18 PM (#532559) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: fat B****rd "Boom Boom Mancini" by Warren Zevon and I'm sure there was a traditional English song about a prizefighter ot fight. |
21 Aug 01 - 01:28 PM (#532563) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: GUEST,Nick Most of the responses see to be from the East side of the Atlanic. But how about "You Gotta Have Heart!" from Damn Yankees, not about one person but about the spirit. Or Joltin' Joe (Dimmagio) |
21 Aug 01 - 04:05 PM (#532699) Subject: Lyr Add: THE GALLANT JOHN JOE From: GUEST,brakn This is one I get asked for.......
THE GALLANT JOHN JOE
In the month of November on a cold stormy day |
21 Aug 01 - 04:07 PM (#532700) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: GUEST,brakn Cookie seems to gone.... |
21 Aug 01 - 04:29 PM (#532717) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: McGrath of Harlow And here is a picture of the man - John Joe O'Reilly |
21 Aug 01 - 08:23 PM (#532879) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: McGrath of Harlow Here's another from the same sub-genre:
A father and son they stood hand in hand As they watched Wexford play from the back of the stand And the words that he said, I'll hear when I'm old IT'S A BEAUTY TO BEHOLD WHEN YOU SEE THE PURPLE AND GOLD On the purple and gold is my heart and my soul From the men of today to the heroes of old Oh the purple and gold is the dream I still hold It's a beauty to behold when you see the purple and gold I can still see them now on the All-Ireland Days And the Rackards stood proud and by God could they play And the Quigleys stood tall every man brave and bold It was a privilege I was told to wear the purple and gold. On the purple and gold is my heart and my soul From the men of today to the heroes of old Oh the purple and gold is the dream I still hold It's a beauty to behold when you see the purple and gold I found that one in this page the Dromina Cork) GAA website, in a page given over to "GAA songs"
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21 Aug 01 - 08:28 PM (#532882) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: McGrath of Harlow And with line breaks in the right place it looks like this:
A father and son they stood hand in hand
On the purple and gold is my heart and my soul
I can still see them now on the All-Ireland Days
On the purple and gold is my heart and my soul |
22 Aug 01 - 09:10 AM (#533157) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: GUEST,Den There's also Football Crazy, The Crumlin Kangaroos (incidently I'm still looking for the rest of the lyrics if anyone has them I'd be grateful. There's a song about Rinty Monaghan I'll try to find the words for and of course the beautiful song on Christy Moore's latest This is the Day; about "the Gorgeous Gael, Jack Doyle. Den |
22 Aug 01 - 10:51 AM (#533222) Subject: Lyr Add: JOLTIN' JOE DIMAGGIO^^ From: catspaw49 Used in a series on HBO about baseball called "When It Was A Game", there's Willie, Mickey, and the Duke. And of course the Alan Courtney song that was a hit for Les Brown: JOLTIN' JOE DIMAGGIO
"Who started baseball's famous streak Spaw |
22 Aug 01 - 11:22 AM (#533243) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: Steve Latimer Torontonians over 40 will remember "Clear the Track, Here Comes Shack" about Maple Leaf Eddie "The Entertainer" Shack. Unfortunately, I don't have the lyrics. |
23 Aug 01 - 01:35 AM (#533735) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: GUEST,chrisj There are several songs about sporting idols in Australian popular music: 'Up there Cazaly' is about a famous Australian Rules player of earlier times (I think the 'Twenties)Roy Cazaly, who was noted for his tremendous leaps to 'mark' a high ball. 'The Goondiwindi Grey' is about Gunsynd a famous racehorse that incidentally has a statue in his honor in the town of Goondiwindi, NSW. I'm sure there are many more. |
23 Aug 01 - 05:26 AM (#533810) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: McGrath of Harlow Up there Cazaly - yes I was hoping someone would come up with that. I found the first verse of it on this site about Rules Footie One song has been written which is recognised as the national Football Anthem. The name of it is :"Up There Cazaly" Below are the words of the first verse.
Well you work for a living, then the weekend comes around You can do what ever turns you on, get out and clear your mind. Me I like football but there's lot of things around. When you line them up together. The footie wins hands down. Up there Cazaly, in there and fight Out there and at 'em, show 'em your might. Up there Cazaly, dont let them in. Fly like an angel, you're out there to win. Here's Roy Cazaly Any more verses?
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23 Aug 01 - 06:23 AM (#533822) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: GUEST,harvey andrews I wrote and recorded "he played for England" loosely based on the up and down life of Tommy Lawton. England centre forward in the post war years. I remember Derek Dougan requesting I sing it at his testimonial dinner.
He played for England, yes he did
His cartilage went at 31
Si in the pub he talks of when
He thought the world would not forget
He never goes to see a game
His wife deserted years ago |
23 Aug 01 - 07:41 AM (#533840) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: McGrath of Harlow That's a sad one, Harvey. A good one too.
I think that's what the best of these songs do is recognise, like this one, there's a life off the pitch as well as a life on the pitch. That's I suppose why I started with the Bold Thady Quill (tongue in cheek as oit is.)
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23 Aug 01 - 08:55 AM (#533873) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: Dave the Gnome Bouncing Billy Barker of Gorton, Manchester, could jump across the local canal from a standing start. Used weights to gain momentum and 'skimmed' like a stone apparantly. Won many a bet and escaped from the local constabulary by the same means after some more nefarious activities as well! He could also jump over a horse from a standing start and was regarded by many as a local sporting hero. I think Tony Hill wrote the song with the chorus -
"It's impossible, it can't be done Cheers Dave the Gnome |
23 Aug 01 - 04:11 PM (#534119) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: Susanne (skw) Harvey's song seems to be a fitting counterpart to James Keelaghan's 'Glory Bound', mentioned further up, on the advantages of dying young. If you follow the link I provided for 'Flowers of Manchester' you'll find (among other things) a newspaper article on how those survivors of Munich who could not play any more were treated by their club. Sad! |
23 Aug 01 - 06:16 PM (#534175) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: CraigS There are lots of old broadsheet songs about barefist fighters, such as Bendigo. More recently, Johnny Wakelin had hits entitled *Muhammed Ali* and *In Zaire (the rumble in the jungle)*, although these are not exactly in the folk tradition. |
24 Aug 01 - 09:45 AM (#534442) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: ard mhacha McGrath, In Colm O` Lochlainn`s Irish Street Ballads, there is a song about Dan Donnellys bare-knuckle scrap with Cooper the english champ. This was fought on the Curragh of Kildare in 1815. Slan Ard Mhacha. |
24 Aug 01 - 07:03 PM (#534816) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: Gareth Flowers of Manchester - I recall as a child awaking to the News of the Munich crash - even at that age it shocked me. But please remember those of you that sing the original version Captain Thain was exonerated in the end - it was slush on the runway, not ice on the wings. On the other hand his dismisal stood - not for the crash but for 1/. Accepting the word of the ground crew that the wings were clear of ice rather than checking himself, and 2/. Not aborting the last take off run early enough. gareth - in insurance claims. |
24 Aug 01 - 07:12 PM (#534820) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: McGrath of Harlow Wasn't there a Ballad of Eddie the Eagle? The only English ski-jumper who achieved mock-heroic status for jumping like a plank of wood in the Winter Olympics. (And if you asked most people in England today for the name of a ski-jumper, his would be the only one they'd know.) |
24 Aug 01 - 08:00 PM (#534846) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: GUEST,Brakn Here's a couple of songs about an ancestor of mine who bareknuckles champion of the US. |
25 Aug 01 - 05:47 AM (#535024) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: Dave the Gnome Stanley Accrington did an Eddie the Eagle song, McG.
He's Eddie the Eagle, he's out on the slope Cheers DtG |
25 Aug 01 - 09:04 AM (#535055) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: McGrath of Harlow That's the one. (There may be others, but that was the one lurking in my subconscious.) |
28 Aug 01 - 03:36 AM (#536596) Subject: Lyr Add: TURPIN-SUGAR RAY From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler For once the memory was right> It was Randolph Turpin and it was the Critics>. Fortunately, the LP has the words which I transcribe here> Sorry I don't do dots, chords or MP3! TURPIN-SUGAR RAY
1.Come all you sporting citizens
3.There was eighteen thousand people
4.The bell went for the first round
5.Young Turpin came out fighting
6.For six long rounds they mixed it
7.They mixed it in the seventh round
8.They said that Turpin wouldn't last
9.For seventy long minutes
10.So join with me you sporting boys *"Yankee" used in the British sense, of course, as any US citizen
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04 Jun 09 - 06:40 AM (#2648028) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: MartinRyan Somewhat belatedly (I arrived at this thread by accident): McGrath of Harlow mentioned There's a song lamenting/celebrating the great days of hurling that I heard, centring round some great hurler that had just died, and I just can't remember a word of it. I'm hoping someone come up with that one. That's probably Cuchullain's Sons about the Rackard brothers. We may have had it elsewhere - if not, I'll try to dig up a set. Fine song. Regards |
04 Jun 09 - 06:55 AM (#2648041) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: The Sandman and a there is a song about Dan O Mahony,world champion wrestler from Ballydehob. |
04 Jun 09 - 07:06 AM (#2648046) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: breezy Has Joe Peel been mentioned, a quintessential song. I wish Harveys was more specific but its still a good one from our Midi Bard i didnt notice as i scanned wasnt Joseph baker written by Pete Coe , who appears at The Pumphouse tomorrow in watford and possibly 'Floors' tonight at Redbourn |
04 Jun 09 - 07:19 AM (#2648049) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: oldhippie "The Ballad of Dale Earnhardt" by C W McCall |
04 Jun 09 - 07:28 AM (#2648054) Subject: ADD: Cuchulainn’s Son (Tom Williams) From: MartinRyan Here's the words for Cuchulainn's Son : CUCHULAINN'S SON (Tom Williams) The challenge of an ancient game Brought glory, glory to your name Though March winds blew the crowds still came To watch you gentle hero. In life's long march you made us proud And many a voice from out the crowd Called out your name aloud, aloud An echo still resounding. CHORUS And Blackstairs men who saw you then Still speak of you in awe, On Carman's green where you had been They tell of what they saw, We watched you on September fields And lightning was the drive You were the one Cuchulainn's son in 1955. The hand that held the stick of ash, And the man who led with style and dash, Oh! Carrigtwohill once felt the crash And Bennettsbridge and Thurles. And when in later life, you met The devil on that lonely street You showed us how to take defeat With dignity and courage. CHORUS The last parade was sad and slow The last oration spoken low And as, on green fields long ago The Diamond stood beside you Old friends they flanked you side by side And the tears they shed were tears of pride An ash tree toppled when you died And scattered seeds at random. CHORUS In the cold light of day, it reads as almost banal and over-sentimental - and is sometimes sung that way! But to hear one of the Berry brothers of Wexford sing it to (and with) a crowd of hurling enthusiasts is quite something. I know there was a final verse added when the last of the three Rackard brothers died, recently - but don't have it to hand. Regards https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zInKWfztHbQ https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nicky_Rackard |
04 Jun 09 - 09:34 AM (#2648142) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: Nigel Parsons Frank Hennessy does "Dyn Arbennig, Dyn Mawr Iawn" (A special man, A Great man) a tribute to Ray Gravell, Wales & Scarlets rugby icon |
04 Jun 09 - 11:42 AM (#2648259) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: Tattie Bogle There's another John Thomson song recorded by (and I think written by) John Watt from Fife, and on his CD "Heroes". The last line of the chorus is: John Thomson cam frae Bowhill, Bowhill, Cardenden. |
04 Jun 09 - 12:18 PM (#2648290) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: breezy Has 'The Flowers of Manchester' been mentioned ? |
04 Jun 09 - 12:39 PM (#2648309) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego One would think, what with all the purple prose used by sportswriters of the 1920's and 1930's in the U.S. such as Grantland Rice and Ring Lardner, et al, that there must have been songs sung in celebration of Red Grange, The Four Horsemen, Bobby Jones, Babe Zaharias and the rest. I have had no luck finding them as yet. Our companions in song from across the broad waters can't possibly have a monopoly on this...or can they? |
04 Jun 09 - 12:52 PM (#2648317) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: Nigel Parsons Breezy: yes, Suzanne (skw) linked to it back in 2001 on this thread! |
05 Jun 09 - 07:58 AM (#2648943) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: GREEN WELLIES Christy Moore - Ballad of Ruby Walsh, or has this already been mentioned. |
05 Jun 09 - 08:38 PM (#2649552) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: McGrath of Harlow Thanks, Martin - yes, that was the song I had in mind. Heard it sung in a bar in Clonmel at the end of a Fleadh Ceoil, and it made the hairs stand up on my neck. I hads a look just now, and found a youtube rendering - George Lawlor and "a crowd of hurling enthusiasts" in Wexford |
06 Jun 09 - 08:01 PM (#2650271) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: McGrath of Harlow Here's one about the Cork hurling legend Christy Ring (with a nod to the Rackard brothers): A Song For Christy Ring by Brian McNamara. (air of Old Skibbereen) Come gather round me boys tonight and raise your glasses high, Come Rockies, Barrs and Rovers stars, let welcome hit the sky, Let bonfires blaze in heroes praise, let Shannon echoes fling, For homeward bound with hurling crown comes gallant Christy Ring. So all you hurlers from the Nore, you lads from Corrib's side, From Garryowen gay and bold with Tipp's own men beside, You may have hurlers straight and tall who can a caman swing But whose the name can play the game with Cork's own Christy Ring. When we were young we read in school in the days of old, The young Setanta showed his worth with shield and spear of gold, As hurling hard on royal sward he'd hurling heroes fling, My soul today, he'd yield the sway if he met Christy Ring. A health to faithful Wexford boys, to the Rackards and their team, Should Cork surrender Ireland's crown may victory on them gleam, John Kelly's name we hold in fame - of '98 we sing, But Slaney's plan must find a man to equal Christy Ring. How oft I've watched him from the Hill move here and there in grace, In Cork, Killarney, Thurles town or by the Shannon's race, "Now Cork is bet; the hay is saved!" the thousands wildly sing- They speak too soon, my sweet garsun, for here comes Christy Ring. When age has gained this warior brave, when ended is the fight, And o'er the hearth he hangs at last his stick and trophies bright, Come counties all both great and small who boast a hurling King, Can one tonight hold candlelight to Cork's own Christy Ring?. |
07 Jun 09 - 02:06 PM (#2650667) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: Vic Smith From somewhere in the hidden depths of my mind comes the image of a rather dumpy, squat Canadian singer/songwriter called Vera Johnson who we used to book at our club in Lewes in the 1960s. She was a most unlikely looking performer but had a good number of fine committed songs and a pleasing voice. One she wrote the Vietnam draft refusal of Mohammed Ali (Cassius Clay). As I remember it, the chorus went - They cheered you in the ring, Mohammed Ali, Revered you llike a king, Mohammed Ali, But you wouldn't go to war, They don't like you any more, Where's the crown that you once wore, Mohammed Ali? I'm sure that I have the words written out in one of my many old song books if anyone is really that interested. |
02 Jul 09 - 07:47 PM (#2670208) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: GUEST I would love to see the words. I once heard it on the radio in the 1960's and it made such an impression that I have never forgotten it. I did a Google search using the words of the chorus and yours was the only reference to the song that it produced. |
05 Sep 09 - 06:50 AM (#2716658) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: McGrath of Harlow Here's a YouTube of "The Ballad of Muhammed Ali", a new song in this "sporting hero" tradition, written by Dermot Kelly of Ennis. It was written to mark the visit paid this week by Ali to the town, from where his great-grandfather came back in the 19th century. I put up a thread about the visit, in which the song came in, but I thought it'd be handy to have it in here as well. Come gather around me a story I'll tell About a great boxer, a hero as well Has come from the US his people to find Who left dear old Ireland so warm and so kind. Muhammed, Muhammed, Muhammed Ali Come float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, From Grady's, The Turnpike, your ancestors came, Brought glory to Ennis, to Ireland great fame. Your style was so graceful, your hands were so swift. Your smile so beguiling, your mind full of wit, Your flashing foot movements, your body so big, Somewhere in there was a real Irish jig. Muhammed, Muhammed, Muhammed Ali Come float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, From Grady's, The Turnpike, your ancestors came, Brought glory to Ennis, to Ireland great fame. You were for peace, not a man for the war, Refused to enlist, Ali you were a star, You shone like a beacon to guide the ship home To County Clare, Ireland, to be with your own. Muhammed, Muhammed, Muhammed Ali Come float like a butterffly, sting like a bee, From Grady's, The Turnpike, your ancestors came, Brought glory to Ennis, to Ireland great fame. Boxers may come, boxers may go, Some with great skill, some melt with the snow, But you were the greatest, an oak standing tall, The best, still the best, still the best of them all. Muhammed, Muhammed, Muhammed Ali Come float like a butterfly, sting like a bee, From Grady's, The Turnpike, your ancestors came, Brought glory to Ennis, to Ireland great fame. |
05 Sep 09 - 07:16 AM (#2716668) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: Jack Campin Weren't there any broadside songs about Daniel Mendoza? |
05 Sep 09 - 09:28 AM (#2716707) Subject: RE: Sporting hero songs? From: MGM·Lion I used to watch Tommy Lawton play — have never seen a striker [or centre-forward as the proper English term has it] who could score with such nonchalant elegance. Brilliant song above by Harvey Andrews. About the second or third post of this thread mentions the song about Joseph Baker, the runner 'who lived in Delamere': nobody seems to have pointed out it was one of the firmly Cheshire-based songs of Peter Coe of that county:- "And sportsmen came from far and near To challenge Baker's speed; From every place, in every race, They strove to do that deed. For a butcher came from Nantwich, And a baker came from Sale, And a sailor came from Birkenhead, And a grocer came from Hale" [all towns in Cheshire - from memory: if I've misremembered the detail - sorry Pete]. |