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20 Aug 01 - 02:02 PM (#531914) Subject: Be Thou My Vision alternative lyrics From: GUEST,Katie Does anyone know if this song has been set to secular lyrics? click for related thread |
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20 Aug 01 - 02:19 PM (#531931) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Be Thou My Vision' alternative lyri From: masato sakurai There's a related thread here. Some info, but I'm afraid it may not help you much.
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20 Aug 01 - 03:31 PM (#531969) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Be Thou My Vision' alternative lyri From: jeffp I have one at home on a Jim Flanagan CD. I don't remember the title of it, but I'll check tonight and probably post tomorrow. jeffp |
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20 Aug 01 - 04:02 PM (#531988) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Be Thou My Vision' alternative lyri From: Joe Offer The name of the tune is "Slane." The religious lyrics I'm familiar with are "Be Thou My Vision" and "Lord of All Hopefulness." Click here for a thread with lyrics to these hymns, plus "Banks of the Bann," which has almost the same tune. -Joe Offer- |
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20 Aug 01 - 05:51 PM (#532046) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Be Thou My Vision' alternative lyri From: Ian HP Has this been set to secular lyrics? I'm afraid the question is upside down! This is a traditional Irish song called The Banks of the Bann which, like so many trad. tunes, was nicked and had religious lyrics to replace the originals. The words and tune are, if I remember correctly, in the DT database. |
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20 Aug 01 - 08:26 PM (#532126) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: 'Be Thou My Vision' alternative lyri From: Joe Offer My hymnal companion books say that "Be Thou My Vision" is a 1905 translation of an Irish poem from the eighth century, but it was not mated to the tune "Slane" until the 1920's. Several books say the tune is a traditional Irish air found in Patrick W. Joyce's Old Irish Folk Music and Songs (1909), set to the text "With My Love on the Road." Can anybody come up with lyrics to "With My Love on the Road"? The tune for "Banks of the Bann" seems a bit different - is there a date for "Banks of the Bann"? Was the tune secular first, or religious? Does it matter? -Joe Offer- |
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20 Aug 01 - 08:46 PM (#532135) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Be Thou My Vision alternative lyrics From: Malcolm Douglas Some sets of Willie Leonard/ Lennox etc. are sung to the same tune, or to related variants. See, for example, Lake of Coolfin I seem to remember somebody looking for With My Love on the Road a while back (possibly on the Ballad-L list) with no success. |
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21 Aug 01 - 12:40 PM (#532530) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Be Thou My Vision alternative lyrics From: Ian HP Was this one of the many tunes R Vaughan Williams "borrowed" for the English Hymnal? (Possiby, my memory fails me.) Can't remember dates but Bann was definitely first. The tune is slightly altered to suit the hymns lines. |
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21 Aug 01 - 12:44 PM (#532535) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Be Thou My Vision alternative lyrics From: IanC IanHP. Yes. |
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21 Aug 01 - 12:47 PM (#532539) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Be Thou My Vision alternative lyrics From: Marymac90 Would that reference to Lennox be the Sacred Harp tune Lennox? Marymac |
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21 Aug 01 - 01:36 PM (#532570) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Be Thou My Vision alternative lyrics From: McGrath of Harlow Nothing wrong with using the tunes of folk songs for hymns. And nothing wrong when it happens the other way round.
A lot of the time noone is sure which came first, because either way the tunes get recycled, so that a folk song tune becomes a hymn tune, which is used for a song and then another hymn gets written using that tune...What matters is that the songs and hymns you end up with are good songs and hymns.
And if that means adjusting the tune a bit, that's part of the folk process anyway. |
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21 Aug 01 - 04:45 PM (#532731) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Be Thou My Vision alternative lyrics From: Genie I don't know if you count it as "secular," but there is a song called "Wake, Now, My Senses," to this tune, in the current Unitarian Hymnal. I will try to post them later, if you don't find them in the next week or two. |
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21 Aug 01 - 05:43 PM (#532766) Subject: ADD: Wake Now My Senses From: Joe Offer Genie, please check your hymnal and let me know if I got this right. I had to extrapolate to come up with the lyrics. -Joe Offer- WAKE NOW MY SENSES (tune: SLANE - Be Thou My Vision) Wake, now, my senses and hear the earth call, Feel the deep power of being in all; Keep, with the web of creation your vow, Giving, receiving, as love show us how. Wake, now, my reason, reach out to the new; Join with each pilgrim who quests for the true; Honor the beauty and wisdom of time; Suffer thy limit, and praise the sublime. Wake, now, my vision of ministry clear; Brighten my pathway with radiance here; Mingle my calling with all who will share; Work toward a planet transformed by our care. Wake, now, compassion, give heed to the cry; Voices of suffering fill the wide sky; Take as your neighbor both stranger and friend, Praying and striving their hardship to end. Unitarian Hymnal #298 (I found it here (click)) -Joe Offer- |
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21 Aug 01 - 05:54 PM (#532775) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Be Thou My Vision alternative lyrics From: Pinetop Slim "Fire At Slane" in the Mudcat Songbook click here is set to this tune. Jean Ritchie sings one about "getting rowdy" that is also set to Slane. If kytrad drops in, maybe she'll post the lyrics? |
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21 Aug 01 - 08:06 PM (#532873) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Be Thou My Vision alternative lyrics From: GUEST,Katie Thank you all so much! I'm really glad I found this place, it has proved very helpful :o) |
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21 Aug 01 - 08:32 PM (#532883) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Be Thou My Vision alternative lyrics From: GUEST,kytrad Sorry, Pinetop Slim- Don't know anything like, "Getting Rowdy..." you must have got the name wrong? |
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21 Aug 01 - 08:47 PM (#532890) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Be Thou My Vision alternative lyrics From: Mary in Kentucky Jacko sings "The Life of a Man" to that tune. He says the tune is more like the "Banks of the Bann" tune. Trivia here...did y'all know that "Star of the County Down" mentions the banks of the Bann? |
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03 Sep 01 - 07:33 AM (#540675) Subject: Lyr Add: WAKE NOW MY SENSES (J. S. Mickelson) From: GUEST,genie Joe, Your lyrics are right (except for one typo), but you have the verses out of sequence and one is missing. Here's what my hymnal has:
WAKE NOW MY SENSES
Wake, now, my senses and hear the earth call,
Wake, now, my reason, reach out to the new;
Wake, now, compassion, give heed to the cry;
Wake, now, my conscience, with justice thy guide;
Wake, now, my vision of ministry clear; |
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03 Sep 01 - 05:50 PM (#541010) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Be Thou My Vision alternative lyrics From: kytrad (Jean Ritchie) My mother had a few verses of a song about a girl who lives "on the new river shore." As I remember it was pretty much the, 'Slane' tune, Kentuckized a bit. Maybe New River should be capitalized- isn't the New River in Virginia? |
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03 Sep 01 - 06:21 PM (#541031) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Be Thou My Vision alternative lyrics From: Mary in Kentucky My kids like to go white water rafting on the New River in West Virginia. here. |
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28 Jul 06 - 03:40 PM (#1795637) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Be Thou My Vision alternative lyrics From: GUEST,asking Are these Songs to Christ the Lord who Died on the Cross and Rose again the Third day, or another jesus? Truly wondering here. Jesus Is Real |
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03 Apr 07 - 12:29 AM (#2014996) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Be Thou My Vision alternative lyrics From: GUEST I have been trying for almost a year now to find the alternative lyrics that have the words "He is my Creator, my Father, my friend.......time and again". If anyone knows of this version please send info to gmhenderson@bsu.edu |
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03 Apr 07 - 04:40 PM (#2015524) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Be Thou My Vision alternative lyrics From: Padre The New River rises in Ashe County, North Carolina, flows through Virginia, and merges with the Gauley River near Fayetteville, West Virginia to form the Kanawha River. Despite the name, it is said to be one of the oldest rivers on earth - any geologists out there care to verify? Padre |
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24 Dec 17 - 05:49 PM (#3895720) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Be Thou My Vision alternative lyrics From: GUEST,Molly Make Us True Servants Make us true servants to all those in need, filled with compassion in thought, word and deed. Loving our neighbor whatever the cost. Feeding the hungry and finding the lost. Lord make us healers of body and mind. Give us the pow'r to bring sight to the blind. Love to the loveless, and gladness for pain. Filling all hearts with the joy of your name. Lord make us prophets to cry out the way, telling the nations of mercy's new day. Let us break barriers of hatred and scorn, speaking of hope to all people forlorn. grew up singing this in a Catholic church |
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26 Aug 20 - 04:42 AM (#4069680) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Be Thou My Vision alternative lyrics From: Mo the caller I woke up this morning with a song Viki Swan sang at her Whitby online concert. About a Lady and a glove. 6 minutes into the concert (though it's all worth listening to). Not the same tune but (in my mind at least) related. |
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26 Aug 20 - 10:57 AM (#4069707) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Be Thou My Vision alternative lyrics From: Steve Gardham A beautiful tune and some lovely sentiments from nearly 20 years ago, and the bonus is you don't have to believe in the supernatural to appreciate the sound lyrics. Just such a pity that so many who do have religion use those lyrics hypocritically. |
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26 Aug 20 - 09:43 PM (#4069766) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Be Thou My Vision alternative lyrics From: GUEST,Tinker from Chicago Forgive me, Lord, but doesn't this melody work with the word of Wild Rover? |
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27 Aug 20 - 04:13 AM (#4069794) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Be Thou My Vision alternative lyrics From: Mo the caller A lot of folk tunes and hymns share a metre. I seem to remember a term 'common metre' A vicar played guitar in the ceilidh band I called with. At Harvest celebrations gave out word-sheets for John Barleycorn and got people singing it to the tune 'we plough the fields and scatter'. I winced when he did it at the Salvation Army. (but we were invited again next year). |
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27 Aug 20 - 06:51 AM (#4069826) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Be Thou My Vision alternative lyrics From: Peter the Squeezer Banks of the Bann /mudcat.org/@displaysong.cfm?SongID=5833 |