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05 Sep 01 - 07:00 PM (#542902) Subject: Dakota's Cross - another old cowboy song From: katlaughing This one is on the tape my dad did of "cow songs of the Old West." I didn't find it in a super search, nor in the DT. It has a really pretty tune. If anyone knows it and what "dakota cross" it refers to, please let me know. Dad always thought it was a constellation, but I can't find anything by that name. Thanks! DAKOTA'S CROSS
Under the light of the Western sky
Hunger and sickness had been their lot
Far in the east where both we grew
When you return, go and comfort her
After the dreary night was gone
Far in the east where both we grew
When you return, go and comfort her |
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05 Sep 01 - 07:16 PM (#542915) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Dakota's Cross - another old cowboy From: Sorcha Lovely song, kat. Don't know anything about Dakota Cross, tho. |
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05 Sep 01 - 07:18 PM (#542916) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Dakota's Cross - another old cowboy From: Sorcha It's not real relevant, but did you run across this? |
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05 Sep 01 - 08:04 PM (#542956) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Dakota's Cross - another old cowboy From: katlaughing Thanks, Sorcha, that was an interesting link. Might have to get a copy and read it. Remind me to sing you this tune next time we talk. My voice is a little rusty right now, something is blooming and playing havoc! |
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21 Sep 01 - 10:16 AM (#555766) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Dakota's Cross - another old cowboy From: katlaughing Still wondering if anyone can shed some light on the title of this song, its meaning or reference, etc. Thanks, kat |
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21 Sep 01 - 01:14 PM (#555913) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Dakota's Cross - another old cowboy From: JenEllen Lovely song. I always assumed it referred to Cygnus? The Northern Cross is wonderfully visible in the Dakotas.
Orion kneeling in his starry niche,
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21 Sep 01 - 05:05 PM (#556115) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Dakota's Cross - another old cowboy From: katlaughing Thanks, Jenellen. My dad and I always thought it probably referred to a constellation, never thought of Cygnus! I asked if he knew any more background on it. He said it is an authentic old cowboy song, was on an old 78, which my sister may have, so I'll ask her to take a look that for more info. He said it might have been sung by Carl T. Sprague, but he wasn't sure. It is a very simple, easy to learn tune, also. kat |
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31 Jan 06 - 05:31 PM (#1658511) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Dakota's Cross - another old cowboy From: GUEST Dakota's cross was sung by Paul Hamblin on Victor Records. It was on the flip side of Strawberry Roan. Your post is the only place on the internet I can find the words. Thanks |
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01 Feb 06 - 06:39 AM (#1658868) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Dakota's Cross - another old cowboy From: katlaughing Guest, you are most welcome. In a later thread, from last year, I posted about some CDs I made from old 78's which my brother had recorded in the 1950's on reel-to-reel. If you Click HERE, you will see Dakota's Cross is included and how to contact me if you would like copies. kat |
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01 Feb 06 - 08:47 AM (#1658970) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Dakota's Cross - another old cowboy From: GUEST,Bob Coltman Kat, nice song. I've never heard the Hamblin. Any chance you could do an ABC of the tune? Bob |
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01 Feb 06 - 09:44 AM (#1659017) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Dakota's Cross - another old cowboy From: katlaughing Bob, I will try, but it may take a bit; we're in the middle of refinance and buying another house.:-) I also have a tape of my dad singing it a couple of years before he passed. Thanks, kat |
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12 Feb 08 - 12:22 AM (#2260089) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Dakota's Cross - another old cowboy From: Jim Dixon The Online 78rpm Discographical Project says that UNDER DAKOTA'S CROSS was recorded by Paul Hamblin in 1930, on Victor V-40260. |
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12 Feb 08 - 12:27 AM (#2260093) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Dakota's Cross - another old cowboy From: Jim Dixon BMI says that UNDER DAKOTA'S CROSS was written by Wilf Carter. |
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13 Feb 08 - 06:57 PM (#2261801) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Dakota's Cross - another old cowboy s From: Artful Codger Any possibility, then, that it's in Wilf Carter's songbook? |
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13 Feb 08 - 07:08 PM (#2261808) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Dakota's Cross - another old cowboy s From: katlaughing Anyone still interested in the tune for this? I could get it up on youtube, if you'd like. Might take a day or two. Nice to see it still getting interest here. |
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14 Feb 08 - 03:32 PM (#2262511) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Dakota's Cross - another old cowboy song From: GUEST,Art Thieme I am left wondering whether or not Paul Hamblin, himself, indicated that this song was written by Wilf Carter!? Kat, If your address is still the same, I'll be mailing a package to you when I can get out next--but more snow is due tonight---so we will see. When you two be moving? If it's new, please e-mail it here. Great words. New to me too. I should re-listen to your dad's tape. Art |
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02 Jul 09 - 06:13 PM (#2670153) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Under Dakota's Cross (Wilf Carter) From: GUEST,Keith Considering that Wilf didn't record this until late in his career and that album shows this simply as "arranged" by him. I doubt he wrote it, no indication of the disc label as who did. One of my favorites by my favorite artist. |
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03 Jul 09 - 11:03 AM (#2670678) Subject: Lyr Add: UNDER DAKOTA'S CROSS (Wilf Carter) From: GUEST,Keith Here's the words as recorded by Wilf Carter. They differ somewhat from those shown previously. DAKOTA'S CROSS Under the light of the Western sky After a weary day Fast to a bronco two cowboys clung Lost on the plains were they Hunger and sickness had been their lot Filled with a nameless dread Searching for water they knew not where One to the other one said: Far in the east where both we grew Two buddies, side by side There is a maiden so good and true She is my promised bride. When you return, go and comfort her Don't let her mourn my loss Tell her I sleep neath a pillow so deep Under Dakota's Cross After a weary night had fled After the stars had flown Out of the east there came a storm Claiming them for its own Far in the east a maiden weeps Mourning her lover's loss She never knew what his last words were Under Dakota's Cross Far in the east where both they grew Two buddies side by side There is a maiden so good and true She is my promised bride When you return, go comfort her Don't let her mourn my loss Tell her I sleep neath the pillow deep Under Dakota's Cross. |
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04 Apr 11 - 11:07 AM (#3128279) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Under Dakota's Cross (Wilf Carter) From: katlaughing Guest Keith, thanks for the alternate lyrics! Am I correct in assuming there is no copyright on this song from so far back? Thanks, folks. |
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25 Apr 11 - 02:07 PM (#3142121) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Under Dakota's Cross (Wilf Carter) From: Genie Does anyone know the original copyright year for this song? If it was written after 1922, it may still be under copyright. In any case, since you've recorded this song for one of the new Mudcat CDs, Kat, I would like to add the copyright year to the liner notes, if we can figure out when it was written. Genie |
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25 Apr 11 - 02:40 PM (#3142130) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Under Dakota's Cross (Wilf Carter) From: katlaughing Well shoot. I notice BMI does not list a copyright date, nor does the link to Peer Music. I will do more research on it and find out. May have to go to the backup song. |
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25 Apr 11 - 11:29 PM (#3142395) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Under Dakota's Cross (Wilf Carter) From: Genie Kat, not having the copyright date won't mean the song can't be on the CD. It would just be nice to know it if possible. |
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30 Apr 11 - 11:12 AM (#3145323) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Under Dakota's Cross (Wilf Carter) From: katlaughing Thanks, Genie, but my concern is whether it is still under copyright. Anyone know of a way to find that out? BMI's listing led an agent at Peer Music who, so far, has not replied to my query re' same. (When I called, she couldn't just "look it up" to see.) I'd esp. like to know in light of what Keith wrote about it being "arranged" by Carter. Thanks! |
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30 Apr 11 - 05:30 PM (#3145450) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Under Dakota's Cross (Wilf Carter) From: Genie Even if the song itself is PD, if Carter "arranged" it, the arrangement can be copyright protected. It would be good to know that. |
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01 May 11 - 12:02 AM (#3145579) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Under Dakota's Cross (Wilf Carter) From: katlaughing Genie, please see your PM from me. It may all be a moot point.:-) Thanks, kat |
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03 May 11 - 01:46 PM (#3147177) Subject: RE: Lyr Add: Under Dakota's Cross (Wilf Carter) From: katlaughing Got my answer, Genie: Peer International Corp. owns this song 100%, not PD. Good luck with your project. Regards,, Lee Lee Reed | Manager, Mechanical Licensing 901 W. Alameda Ave. | Burbank, CA. 91506 USA I'll be sending you liner notes, etc. for my own song, That's Not My Colorado, instead. Thanks! |