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17 Sep 01 - 02:19 PM (#552433) Subject: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: GUEST Bob Dylan's new album "Love And Theft" was released, sadly, on Tuesday. Has anyone had anytime to pick up the album and tell us how they liked it? |
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17 Sep 01 - 03:26 PM (#552510) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: Peter T. Haven't heard it yet, but the reviews have been all over the place from 4 stars to 1. yours, Peter T. |
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17 Sep 01 - 04:16 PM (#552560) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: Steve Latimer Correction Peter, Rolling Stone gave it a five star rating, the first five star they've given since 1992. And what would a Dylan album be without at least a few detractors. I have heard a few tracks that I've enjoyed. I've ordered the Limited Edition (maybe Mr. Barnum was right). I'll let you know what I think once I've given it a few listens. A Dylan nut I know feels it is one the strongest works of his career.
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17 Sep 01 - 10:01 PM (#552838) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: GUEST, I, hurricane I've had it for days and days. But I can't describe it for you. It is, of course, another pure original. I prefer Time Out of Mind because it's got a good beat and I can tap my feet to it, but there's no accounting for taste, and there's no describing this album. Only the last song would have belonged on Time Out of Mind. . . (Hope that's helpful!) |
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18 Sep 01 - 01:14 AM (#552939) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: GUEST,JohnnyTheBone The new Dylan is MONSTROUS! |
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18 Sep 01 - 01:49 AM (#552962) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: gus C The new Dylan album is frightening. I know it is coincidence, Bob has been in the Business of "the world is going wrong" songs for a long time. I know Dylan didn't intend it to be the soundtrack to 9/11, but , it is. " Coffins Falling to the street" "made it to 12th and Vine, nothing standing there" "I am stranded in the city that never sleeps.....I'm avoiding the southside the best I can" "I know what the whole world is up against....any minute of the day the bubble could burst" So many lines could be about the tragedy, at least a line from every song, frequently whole verses - " I see Your Lover man coming across the battlefield , he aint a gentleman at all , he's rotten to the core, he's a coward and he steals" same song - " you gonna need my help you can't make love all by yourself". Some even sound like they are spoken from the point of view of the terrorists - " The cuckoo is a pretty bird ( who only sings on the 4th day of July) she warbles as she flies, I am preaching the word of god poking out your eyes". Obviously Dylan didn't know and wouldn't have intended it- " I'm glad we fought I only wish we won". In some instances maybe he would have intended it had he known - " one of the Boss Man's Hangers on stops by, WHEN YOU LEAST EXPECT, tries to bully you , strong arm you , inspire you with FEAR, it has the opposite effect" same song- " If you ever interfere with me or cross my path again, you do so at the peril of your own life, I aint as cool and forgiving as I sound, I've seen too much heartache and strife." It is hard to listen to it, except MISSISSIPPI - "My ship has been split to splinters.......... but, I Got Nothing but Affection for those who sail with me." |
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18 Sep 01 - 08:16 AM (#553104) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: Steve Latimer DJH, That's eerie. |
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18 Sep 01 - 11:00 AM (#553187) Subject: Bob Dylan From: Clinton Hammond Well, I haven't heard it, but my mom is a huge Dylan fan and told me it's possibly the WORST album he's ever put out... |
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18 Sep 01 - 11:39 AM (#553215) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: Little Hawk Sounds like a typical set of reactions. A lot of people hated "Street Legal" and "Empire Burlesque", and I loved 'em. "Time Out of Mind" is quite good, but I wouldn't exactly say I love it...Daniel Lanois' production seems to get in the way sometimes, for me, on that one. Still haven't got "Love and Theft". - LH |
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18 Sep 01 - 12:20 PM (#553252) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: Steve Latimer Clinton, Did she say why?
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18 Sep 01 - 12:27 PM (#553261) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: GUEST I heard some sound clips from it and it sounds pretty awesome. A lot of rocking blues songs and jazzy smoky nightclub-sque kinds of songs. |
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18 Sep 01 - 01:33 PM (#553309) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: Clinton Hammond I will grill her on it... but the few tracks I've downloaded this AM don't impresse much so far... tweedledee is about 2 and a half minutes too long for what it is... hey LH... -I- liked "Empire Burlesque" as well... but not as much as I liked "Infidels"... ;-) |
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18 Sep 01 - 07:22 PM (#553535) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: Little Hawk Infidels was great, but could have been absolutely legendary had Bob picked a slightly different songlist, and included "Blind Willie McTell" and a couple of others from that time period. It would then have been the new "Blood On The Tracks"! "Jokerman" remains one of my favourite Dylan songs of all time. - LH |
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18 Sep 01 - 09:25 PM (#553604) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: Steve Latimer Okay, so it's thread creep, but I was listening to Infidels on the way home tonight. I saw this one in a new light. Well, the neighborhood bully, he's just one man, His enemies say he's on their land. They got him outnumbered about a million to one, He got no place to escape to, no place to run. He's the neighborhood bully.
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19 Sep 01 - 10:27 AM (#553931) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: GUEST,Pete Love and Theft is one of those that will grow on us. I got the limited edition here in the UK last Wednesday (19/9). Track 2, "Mississipi", is awesome. If DJH or anyone else can supply the full lyrics before I get the time to sit down and transcribe them that'd be great. Sounds like it's in the key of A, using D and E7 in a sort-of 12-bar sequence. Pete |
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19 Sep 01 - 10:33 AM (#553938) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: Clinton Hammond "well the pressure's down, the boss ain't here, he's gone north for a while..." :-) |
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19 Sep 01 - 10:41 AM (#553950) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: Steve Latimer Good song Clinton. I had heard mixed reviews on Infidels, I saw it for $9.99 CDN and bought it about two weeks ago. Although I wouldn't say it's a "must have" Dylan, it sure is good. I also picked up "Oh Mercy" at the same time. I can't believe that I missed that one for so long. Guest Pete, I checked www.bobdylan.com for the Mississippi Lyrics, they haven't posted them yet. Perhaps you could try Sheryl Crow's site, she recorded it a while ago. |
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19 Sep 01 - 01:09 PM (#554079) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: Little Hawk "Neighborhood Bully" is about Israel, Steve. What new light did you see it in? Were you thinking of the USA in that role now...or??? - LH |
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19 Sep 01 - 01:20 PM (#554093) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: Steve Latimer I was thinking more along the lines of it applying to Bin Laden in his current situation. |
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19 Sep 01 - 02:16 PM (#554140) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: Steve Latimer Guest Pete, Sorry, I can't Blueclickything, but I found the lyrics and Chords to Mississippi here: http://hem.passagen.se/obrecht/backpages/chords/index.htm |
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19 Sep 01 - 02:27 PM (#554146) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: GUEST |
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19 Sep 01 - 06:24 PM (#554367) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: Little Hawk Steve - Oh, okay, I get it. - LH |
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19 Sep 01 - 07:08 PM (#554393) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: radriano Surely there's more to music than Bob Dylan? |
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19 Sep 01 - 07:13 PM (#554398) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: Steve Latimer Radriano, You may be right, but he's a pretty good starting point. |
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20 Sep 01 - 11:15 AM (#554856) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: Clinton Hammond *Singing*
"It's been so long since a strange woman slept in my bed :-) |
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20 Sep 01 - 01:56 PM (#554951) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: Little Hawk What are you trying to say, Radriano? :-) - LH |
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21 Sep 01 - 07:49 AM (#555632) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: GUEST,Pete Thanks for the info on that website, Steve, it's a gem. PS. No need to blueclickything - I just did the old fashioned fingerclickything! |
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21 Sep 01 - 10:04 AM (#555755) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: Tedham Porterhouse I picked up "Love & Theft" on Wednesday and have only had a chance to listen once through. That said, my initial reaction is that it's Dylan's best work since "Blood On the Tracks." |
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21 Sep 01 - 10:14 PM (#556319) Subject: RE: Gettting Back To Music: Bob Dylan From: simon-pierre well... it's best work since Time out of Mind, maybe? :-) I think it's pretty good, but I got annoyed by the drums and the bass on the first plan. And for the lyrics... english is my second language, so I 'll listen to it another hundred times and post my comments later!! We had another thread on Love and Theft there |