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01 Oct 01 - 06:16 AM (#562419) Subject: Nina and Fredrick From: Dave the Gnome A totaly unrelated thread reminded me of this. A couple of weeks back on the radio they played a song by Nina and Frederik. The anouncer then went on to tell quite an amazing story about the couple. Their marriage was, apparantly, a fairy tale romance of the 50's. He was the crown prince (or some such) of somewhere and she was considered to be the most beatiful model from Sweden. Their marriage was the talk of Europe and Scandinavia at the time and the fact that they went on, in the 1960's, to be musical celebreties with lots of TV time was the icing on the cake. The marriage did not last unfortunately and after their split Nina had some measure of sucess as an actress. Frederik, however, became involved in some very shady activities and some years later was shot dead in Havana during a drug deal! I have been unble to corroborate this and it could be a result of bad memeory, poor hearing, mis-information or all three - the old grey cells aint what they used to be:-( Anyone know any more? Cheers
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01 Oct 01 - 07:43 AM (#562446) Subject: RE: BS: Nina and Fredrick From: okthen Van Pallandt (spelling?) was their surname, news to me about the shooting in Cuba tho'. cheers bill |
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01 Oct 01 - 07:47 AM (#562450) Subject: Lyr Add: THE WORM SONG (from Nina and Frederik) From: Jon Freeman No idea Dave... but thinking Nina and Frederik, I'm pretty sure I learned this from one of thier records - b side to Puff the Magic Dragon. The Worm Song
The earth it was damp with the dew of the dawn
Just then as he stared at the sun in the sky
"If you'd only agree to a brief rendezvous
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01 Oct 01 - 08:02 AM (#562453) Subject: RE: BS: Nina and Fredrick From: GUEST Got this from Hollywood.com:
Nina Van Pallandt
Biography
Dunno about Frederik! |
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01 Oct 01 - 08:10 AM (#562455) Subject: RE: BS: Nina and Fredrick From: The_one_and_only_Dai This is particularly scary. |
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01 Oct 01 - 08:20 AM (#562460) Subject: RE: BS: Nina and Fredrick From: Long Firm Freddie (at work) Cookie now reset!
A google search shows Frederik died in May 94 in the Phillipines, but nothing about how or why.
Best memory of them is the non-playing Maraccas sketch with Eric & Ernie all those years ago... LFF
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01 Oct 01 - 08:42 AM (#562465) Subject: RE: BS: Nina and Fredrick From: Dave the Gnome Your right, Dai - scary stuff indeed! Continuing my ongoing quest for knowledge that no-one else needs I came across "Nina & Frederik | Sucu Sucu (DB 4632) | 7 inch | tld7847" on Amazon.co.uk. Now then. Here is another question. I think I can vaguely remember this song (or one with a very similar title) being the theme for a 60's TV series called 'Secret Service'. The song had a calypso beat - which Nina and Frederik did use quite a lot and I can remember a female voice on it. The opening of the TV show was scenes from a tropical beach i think. Does anyone else remember this? Was it british or American? Am I totaly loopy? Or just completely bored? Cheers DtG |
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01 Oct 01 - 08:45 AM (#562466) Subject: RE: BS: Nina and Fredrick From: Dave the Gnome Oh yes - and it probably was Manilla rather than Havana, LFF. You know all them foreign places are the same to us Brits;-) D. |
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01 Oct 01 - 08:49 AM (#562469) Subject: RE: BS: Nina and Fredrick From: Micca Dave, If I recollect, it was South America, the setting for the TV series, Might have been Rio de Janeiro and starred William Franklyn who later made the "Schh, you know who" commercials for Schweppes, It was a British, (ITV ) series I am fairly sure.. |
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01 Oct 01 - 08:59 AM (#562475) Subject: RE: BS: Nina and Fredrick From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler As I've recounted before (probably more than once, you know me!) I came to the Mudcat originally looking for the words to Listen to the Oceanonly to discover Ihad it in a song book at home! I also managed to get a copy of the 45 from Amazon z-shops. They don't seem to have been re-released on CD at all. RtS (PS only one winner at Ascot on Saturday, a favourite so not enough to pay for the other failures!) |
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01 Oct 01 - 10:18 AM (#562511) Subject: RE: BS: Nina and Fredrick From: Lanfranc Dave etc. I have the sheet music of "Sucu Sucu", which was indeed the theme music from the William Franklyn TV series "Secret Agent". Following the "scary" link above takes you to the website of a N&F tribute duo, which is indeed scary, but does have an additional link to a newly released CD of the original N&F's greatest hits. Unfortunately, it looks as though some prat has mixed it so that every other track is a Christmas Carol! Fine within the octave of Christmas, but I can see many people ripping their own CD, omitting the Carols (or, maybe, the secular stuff, according to taste and conviction). Alan |
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01 Oct 01 - 10:26 AM (#562516) Subject: RE: BS: Nina and Fredrick From: GUEST,Roger the skiffler Yes, Lanfranc, two cheers only for that reissue, I think! RtS |
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01 Oct 01 - 11:00 AM (#562547) Subject: RE: BS: Nina and Fredrick From: katlaughing Apparently he was shot in 1994: "The first of the major featured guests on Dave's Place were Nina and Frederik, who attained popularity in Europe during the folk era with their soft, often calypso and spiritual-styled approach to their music. In their two appearances on Dave's Place they performed six songs including one about a worm that fell in love with itself and the popular children's song Mockingbird. Frederik was a descendant of Danish royalty (real name Baron Frederik Jan Gustav Floris Van Pallandt). He married Nina Moller in 1960 but they were divorced in 1975. Nina had some subsequent success in American films. Frederik later married a Spanish artist, Maria de los Rios Coello de Portugal, but he was shot dead at Puerto Gallera in the Philippines many years later in 1994." |
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01 Oct 01 - 11:15 AM (#562553) Subject: RE: BS: Nina and Fredrick From: Dave the Gnome Mudcat comes up trumps as usual! I can go to the folk club with an easy mind tonight. Can't get that bloody song out of my head now though...
Aye, aye, aye the beat is crazy Wonder if someone will sing it for me? If all else fails you will have to come to Swinton FF, Alan, and bring the music and your guitar with you;-) Thanks all for a pleasant, entertaining and informative interlude in an otherwise boring office bound afternoon in the Manchester drizzle! Cheers DtG
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01 Oct 01 - 12:15 PM (#562595) Subject: RE: BS: Nina and Fredrick From: GUEST,Steve Parkes Ah, those wonderful Saturday nights of yesteryear! The Billy Cotton Band Show on BBC, Secret Agent on ITV ... now I have to go out if I want a decent night's entertainment. Où sont les Samedis soirs d'antan? Steve |
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01 Oct 01 - 05:04 PM (#562829) Subject: RE: BS: Nina and Fredrick From: nutty I still have the EP - it was one of the first "folk" records I ever bought |
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01 Oct 01 - 06:41 PM (#562897) Subject: RE: BS: Nina and Fredrick From: Lanfranc Come to the Snug on Thursday, and I'll sing "Sucu Sucu" and "Listen to the Ocean" for anyone interested. Nostalgia endures! Alan |
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01 Oct 01 - 07:10 PM (#562918) Subject: RE: BS: Nina and Fredrick From: Dave the Gnome Yes - but nostalgia ain't what it used to be:-)
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02 Oct 01 - 05:04 AM (#563246) Subject: RE: BS: Nina and Fredrick From: Joan from Wigan A Google search came up with this link: Nina and Frederick |
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02 Oct 01 - 05:05 AM (#563247) Subject: RE: BS: Nina and Fredrick From: The_one_and_only_Dai Joan - see above |
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02 Oct 01 - 05:33 AM (#563255) Subject: RE: BS: Nina and Fredrick From: Lanfranc DtG The Snug is a PalTalk group where a number of Mudcatters get together for a sing on Thursday evenings at around 9pm. A search on the Forum for "Paltalk" and/or "Snug" will provide the info needed to get online - look forward to hearing you there. Alan O tempora, O mores (O Times, O Daily Mirror)
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02 Oct 01 - 10:14 AM (#563386) Subject: RE: BS: Nina and Fredrick From: Dave the Gnome Ah - course it is! Visited before - couldn't hear it for some reason though. I'll try again this week. Thanks DtG |
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01 Sep 06 - 09:25 PM (#1825110) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: Joe Offer There are a couple of Nina and Frederik CD's:In a moment of weakness, I bought them both - and I like them. -Joe- |
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02 Sep 06 - 04:59 AM (#1825238) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: Big Al Whittle fantastic thread! Secret Agent was Friday - I was always despatched for the chips immediately before it. This annoyed me considerably as I really liked the theme tune and I frequently missed it. And there wasn't so much nice music around in those days - so you really valued the little snatches of what music there was. A Nina an frederick Tribute Act - wish I'd thought of that! |
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02 Sep 06 - 05:23 AM (#1825246) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: Northerner I also have a record of Sucu Sucu. On a 45 I think. It was a very popular series at the time. |
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08 Jan 08 - 10:56 AM (#2231154) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: GUEST,PMB A little googling reveals that Frederick Baron von Palland was shot in 1994 in the Philippenes, having become involved in drug smugging to Australia. The drugs syndicate murdered him because they owed him 20 million Aussie dollars for a huge cannabis operation... talk about Puff... |
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08 Jan 08 - 11:14 AM (#2231167) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: manitas_at_work They were on a rerun of Juke Box Jury last night! Oi'll give it foive.. |
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08 Jan 08 - 11:36 AM (#2231187) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: Mr Happy 'drug smugging?' Perhaps he got too conceited? |
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08 Jan 08 - 11:37 AM (#2231190) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: Mr Happy ..........or did you mean 'drugs mugging?' |
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08 Jan 08 - 12:32 PM (#2231221) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: GUEST,Bobby Bob, Ellan Vannin Two programmes in one, manitas in work! Juke Box Jury was the BBC show hosted by David Jacobs with four 'celebrity' panellists. They had a choice of either Hit or Miss, and in the event of a draw, some audience members had a hit/miss sign to hold up and that gave the casting votes. Over on ITV it was Thank Your Lucky Stars, presented by Brian Matthews, where there was a spot for new releases with marks out of five, and the audience were invited to comment on them. It was a TYLS audience member called Janice who came up with the immortal phrase, "(Oi wouldn't boi it meself, but) oi'll give it foive," and became a regular to say what she thought (including her 'catch phrase' as often as possible, of course). That was about all the pop music we got on TV back then! Regards, Bobby Bob |
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08 Jan 08 - 02:34 PM (#2231334) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: Rog Peek I'm with you Dave, that 'bloody song' haunted me for years, thought I'd passed the worst, and then someone has to bring it up again. Ha ha hee hee ha ha hee hee heeeeeeeeeeee........... Rog |
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08 Jan 08 - 03:34 PM (#2231396) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: Herga Kitty Janice made Wednesbury famous, didn't she? Kitty |
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03 Feb 09 - 05:30 AM (#2555941) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: GUEST,jaahda I have been singing -aye aye aye the beat is crazy - suco suco everywhere to my months old grandson who completely loves it. now i've come looking to know what tvshow it was from - and if i can hear the original. i know the tune LOL |
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03 Feb 09 - 06:04 AM (#2555962) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: Will Fly It was the title theme of the British secret agent TV series, "Top Secret", which was broadcast in the USA in 1961 and 1962. The action took place in Argentina, thus the South American flavoured theme. The title theme's original name was "Sucu Sucu", composed by Tarateno Rojas and Ren Jan Van Hoogten. The English vocal version had the title "Step Right Up (And Say You Love Me)", though it is known as "Sucu Sucu"; the British lyricists were Ray Maxwell and Phil Belmonte. It was played by the Laurie Johnson and his Orchestra, the same who later also did the famous title theme for the British TV series "The Avengers". The single became a 1961 Top 10 hit in the UK, peaking at #9 on 30 Sep 1961. |
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03 Feb 09 - 06:05 AM (#2555964) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: Will Fly Sorry - should have said - not my research, but from a Google answer page! |
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03 Feb 09 - 07:33 AM (#2556020) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: Mr Happy http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dW8oq5fCEGQ - Sucu Sucu |
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03 Feb 09 - 10:26 PM (#2556708) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: TRUBRIT Well - I loved them....... |
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04 Feb 09 - 04:20 AM (#2556816) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: Little Robyn Me too! But I was very young. Robyn |
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04 Feb 09 - 11:56 PM (#2557647) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: TRUBRIT me too |
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05 Feb 09 - 03:16 PM (#2558255) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: GUEST,Doc Loved Nina anyway! Frederick had the reputation of being so laid back he was horizontal. |
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05 Feb 09 - 04:38 PM (#2558335) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: Joe Offer This YouTube recording has actual video of Nina and Frederik (not just an album cover) from the 1958 movie Verdens rigeste pige. They're billed as "Lisa and Jacque" - I don't quite figure why, but I'm guessing it's a movie about fictitious folkies and they're the main characters. If you speak Danish, you can find a summary of the plot here (click). The English title of the film is The Richest Girl in the World described on one Website as "Farcical musical comedy, describing hectic courtship between poor little rich girl and a calypso singer." Whatever the case, it's a good example of their singing. -Joe- |
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05 Feb 09 - 05:01 PM (#2558369) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: GUEST,Allen in OZ Was it the Two Ronnies or Eric and Ernie who did the skit concerning " Fredrick and Nina Nina and Fred" All good stuff AD in Sydney ...40c temperature predicted today . And so it goes |
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05 Feb 09 - 05:47 PM (#2558406) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: oggie Somewhere in Dad's record collection is the Nina and Frederick album of calypsos that I listened to as a kid. Heard Jamaica Farewell, Tallyman and Buy me Mangoes on there long before I got into folk music. Steve |
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05 Feb 09 - 06:32 PM (#2558438) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: Joybell "Sun touches Earth with a lover's kiss..." has stayed with me since the 60s. For a while during the 60s the ABC used a love duet with Nina and Frederik as a filler. (Not the song with the lines above though.) So sweet. So pretty. It's gone from my head now. Quite gone. Must go searching. Cheers, Joy |
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05 Feb 09 - 06:38 PM (#2558446) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: Big Al Whittle I used to have the 45rpm record of them singing Oh Sinner man. I just loved the way fred broke the word 'man' into two syllables and the second syllable was really low. I listened to it over and over - just to hear that vocal trick that he did once in the record. |
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08 Feb 09 - 09:55 AM (#2560806) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: GUEST Just listened again to 'Sinner Man'. I can remember how impressed I was at the time that a white man could sound so 'black'. Maybe he's using a South-African accent? Same as in 'Mary's Boy Child'. That EP was amongst the first that my parents bought, along with Harry Belafonte in Carnegie Hall (with Odetta and the Chad Mitchell Trio - incl. John Denver at the time). Ah - that was in the days where our whole family would sit together and listen to music. Wonderful memories. |
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08 Feb 09 - 01:32 PM (#2560987) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: Jim McLean Nina was booked to appear solo in a Scottish show called Folk of the North sometime in the late sixties or early seventies ... I'm not quite sure. I had to 'interview' her in the TV studios at Shepherd's Bush. She was a really striking lady and had a girl friend with her, I'e no idea where Frederik was. |
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09 Feb 09 - 12:20 PM (#2561825) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: Dave Roberts I met Nina in 1989 when she lived on the Island of Ibiza. Is she still there? She was done up in the standard uniform of headscarf and big dark glasses favoured by famous people who don't want to be approached (comedy actress Paula Wilcox adopted similar garb when wishing to drink undisturbed in the country pubs around MIddlewich). Also living close by was actor Denholm Elliott. Enough name-dropping.... Anyway, I always loved N&F's songs, particularly 'Listen To The Ocean' which is one of those songs capable of conjuring up lovely images in the mind. And regarding the 'Oi'll Give it Foive' girl, I used to regularly win bets on the name of the show she appeared on. Ninety-nine people out of a hundred would say it was 'Juke Box Jury'. I proved my point by writing to Thames TV and asking the question, using their letter of reply as proof. |
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01 Jul 09 - 02:08 PM (#2669091) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: GUEST,OldManila hand Prince Frederick was indeed murdered in Puerto Galera in the Philippine in 1994. It was probably a contract killing over either a yacht or a drugs deal. A certain Englishman long resident in the Philippines, with a checkered career, who dealt in yachts and arms was rumoured to be behind the deal but was conveniently out of the country at the time. He was subsequently picked up in Hong Kong on other charges that looked like a set up to get him given they couldn't prove his involvement in the Frederick affair. He was jailed in Stanley prison in HK and transferred to the UK before the handover to China. He was subsequently released and is back living in the Philippines. |
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01 Jul 09 - 09:23 PM (#2669373) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: TRUBRIT If it wasn't Juke Box Jury then what was it???????? |
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02 Jul 09 - 12:47 AM (#2669482) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: Joan from Wigan It was Thank Your Lucky Stars - see the post above dated 08 Jan 08 - 12:32 PM from GUEST,Bobby Bob, Ellan Vannin. Joan |
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02 Jul 09 - 06:32 AM (#2669568) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: Cretzon Janice Nichols (Oi'll Give It Foive) was Thank Your Lucky Stars, alright. Brian Matthew - SOTS on Saturday morning - still occasionally refers to it. She released a song of the catch phrase (same title) in the mid sixties. A bit grim, even by 60's novelty record standards. |
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02 Jul 09 - 06:36 AM (#2669573) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: Cretzon Sorry - I forgot the reason I posted on here. Nina & Frederik guested on Juke Box Jury from time to time. I remember them; there's a clip on a nostalgic TV show I've got where they were on the same show as David McCallum and Jill Ireland. They had some strange choices on that show now and then. |
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04 Jul 09 - 04:15 AM (#2671283) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: GUEST,Cliff (in France) 1961 on Brit TV they did their over sad sounding 'Come buy me mangoes' with her - a striking real blond (I suppose) - stupidly made up (typical BBC incompetence)'coloured'. Did not much help their image in the UK. OK I still remember them that surprising line 'its wings like parentheses (high?) in the sky |
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28 Sep 10 - 05:02 PM (#2995520) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: GUEST,Kevin Kevany Does anyone know the name of the South African enfant terrible of the theatre, who was briefly married to Nina and what has become of him? |
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28 Sep 10 - 09:39 PM (#2995695) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: TRUBRIT never heard of him but curious to know. |
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29 Sep 10 - 08:22 AM (#2995993) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: GUEST,Patsy I remember back in black and white mists of childhood memory it was either Sunday Night at the London Palladium or it was another Royal Variety Performance where Nina and Frederik did send up of 'Baby it's Cold Outside' singing it in the way it would be sung in the stereotype character of different countries. Frederik did a perfect send up of a reserved English gentleman and it is the one and only time that he ever made me giggle. |
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06 Nov 10 - 12:10 PM (#3025168) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: GUEST,Hibernian This thread appears old, but if anyone is still there, I'm trying to work out the second chord in the melody of 'Listen to the Ocean'. I can get away with a 7th, but has anyone got the proper sequence? |
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28 Jul 12 - 05:18 AM (#3382586) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: GUEST,pete covey one of the first records my dad bought was PUFF THE MAGIC DRAGON, which would make me cry,because it was sad,i was only about six.on the b side was the worm song,which was wonderful.i would love to find this record.happy memories. |
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23 Feb 20 - 12:44 PM (#4035678) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: keberoxu Apparently Nina van Pallandt is still alive someplace -- she will be over eighty years old by now. I saw the two of them on television in my childhood. Frederik did the singing on the chosen song, Nina harmonized, and it was an odd little cabaret piece with no rhyming whatsoever in the lyrics. The first word was "follow" but it was quite an aimless lyric. Negligible tune as well. Weird. Really a forgettable little bit of writing, but the two of them were so good that I can't forget the performance. |
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23 Feb 20 - 09:21 PM (#4035766) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: GUEST GUEST,Kevin Kevany asked nearly 10 years ago: Probably refers to Robert Kirby, died 2007. A man with some fairly dodgy leanings apparently, but maybe of his time..... |
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24 Feb 20 - 04:45 AM (#4035801) Subject: RE: Nina and Frederik From: Roger the Skiffler According to Wikipedia she was born in 1932 and included Clifford Irving as one of her later lovers. RtS |