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25 May 00 - 04:42 PM (#233862) Subject: Football Crazy From: Ulli I've searched the Digitrad and the Forum for the lyrics of Football Crazy. Some of the verses and the chorus are listed but not the complete lyrics. I'd particularly be interested in the version of Robin Hall & Jimmy MacGregor which is a bit different from the one found in the Digitrad. I'm sure there are some Scottish football experts and enthusiasts around who can help me in this matter. (with EURO2000 just a few weeks away I'd really appreciate the lyrics; the song also helps to get me into the right 'football' mood) thanks ulli |
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25 May 00 - 05:02 PM (#233869) Subject: Lyr Add: FOOTBALL CRAZY From: Jon Freeman I've got this version from Singing Together, Autumn 1968.
I have a favourite brother and his Christian name is Paul
Chorus Chorus:
In the middle of the field one afternoon, the captain says to Paul Chorus:
His wife she says she'll leave him, if Paul he doesn't keep, Jon
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25 May 00 - 05:50 PM (#233885) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Football Crazy From: Scabby Douglas yep.. I think Hall & McGregor's went something like Ye all know my wee brother His name is Jock McGraw He's went and jined a fitba' club, for he's mad aboot fitba' The last verse, they did.. Last night he kicked her oot the bed and shouted.. "IT'S A GOOOAAL!" most of the differences from the version quoted were just dialect things.. Great song... Cheers M'Dears... StevenC |
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25 May 00 - 06:17 PM (#233904) Subject: Lyr Add: FITBA' CRAZY From: Susanne (skw) Adam McNaughtan sings it on 'WordsWordsWords'. Here's his version: He's fitba' crazy, he's fitba' mad
The first match that he played in, I'm sure I saw it a'
His wife said that she'll leave him if Jocky doesn't keep [1983:] Singers have regarded this as a comparatively recent song. In fact, its original author, James Curran, who came to Glasgow from Donegal as a boy, died in 1900. I have here restored some of his lines, which the tradition, drawing on Irish sources, had dropped. (Notes Adam McNaughtan, 'WordsWordsWords') |
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26 May 00 - 04:28 AM (#234152) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Football Crazy From: AndyG I think I've only seen this single thread previously. Football Crazy . AndyG |
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26 May 00 - 05:19 PM (#234504) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Football Crazy From: Ulli Thanks to Jon, Chanty and Susanne. That's exactly what I had been looking for. ulli PS: there was a thread before, Andy, I know, but I started the thread again as it did not contain the the very things which I've just got from Jon, Chanty and Susanne |
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11 Oct 01 - 06:02 PM (#570084) Subject: He's fooball crazy From: GUEST The only senrences of this recording are Well he's footballl crazy he's football mad The fotball it did robbed him of all the wee lit'tle sense had had
Onother sentences says: can anyone provide me the complete lyrics and the singers of ths song Does anyone know the group who sings this song And I would be very glad |
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11 Oct 01 - 06:04 PM (#570085) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He's fooball crazy From: GUEST,theo Wolters the Netherlands |
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11 Oct 01 - 06:06 PM (#570088) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He's fooball crazy From: Dave the Gnome The Spinners did a version. Chorus -
"He's football crazy, he's football mad Perhaps Hughie Jones might supply the rest? Are you there Hughie? Cheers Dave the Gnome
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11 Oct 01 - 06:07 PM (#570090) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He's fooball crazy From: GUEST Clicketh thou here for a little further information. |
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11 Oct 01 - 06:14 PM (#570095) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He's fooball crazy From: GUEST,Peter from Essex I knew this from Robin Hall and Jimmy McGregor on their spot on Tonight on the BBC in the dim and distant past. McColl recorded it under the title Gaelic Football and this is available on Topic TSCD495 - Bold Sportsmen All - Gamblers and Sporting Blades. McColl learned it from Seamus Ennis. I don't have a copy of the words. |
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11 Oct 01 - 07:52 PM (#570150) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He's fooball crazy From: dick greenhaus Ah, dialects and spelling. Try a search for FITBA' |
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12 Oct 01 - 01:01 AM (#570268) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He's fooball crazy From: toadfrog It's in the forum. CLICK HERE |
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12 Oct 01 - 07:18 AM (#570389) Subject: Lyr Add: FOOTBALL CRAZY From: curmudgeon What wasn't in the Forum link above, is in Ewan MacColl's collection, "Personal Choice." And if you don't happen to have a copy... He's fitba crazy, he's gaen clean mad. The fitba's robbed him o' the wee bit sense he had. It'd tak a washerwoman, his claithes tae rub and scrub Since oor Jock becam a member o' that awfu fitba club. The first match he went tae play I gaed tae see mysel, They'd twa half bricks for the goalposts and a tin can for the ba. The Prince of Wales was there himsel' wi' a' his ladie fair When oor Jock cam oot and kicked the ba' richt up intae the air. Repeat first verse. Hope this helps -- Tom |
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12 Oct 01 - 07:30 AM (#570394) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He's fooball crazy From: IanC Tom. That's the version in DT!
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12 Oct 01 - 08:07 AM (#570408) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He's fooball crazy From: JennieG Didn't Rolf Harris record this once too? many many moons ago? Cheers JennieG |
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12 Oct 01 - 11:26 AM (#570513) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He's fooball crazy From: cyder_drinker I had the rolf Harris record as a kid. It was (ISTR) the B side of "Jake the Peg". Sadly lost many years ago now... |
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12 Oct 01 - 11:27 AM (#570516) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He's fooball crazy From: MC Fat How can you be sad about losing a Rolf Harris record ? |
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12 Oct 01 - 11:42 AM (#570529) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He's fooball crazy From: GUEST Quite easily. Some of his early records were pretty good folk.
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12 Oct 01 - 08:06 PM (#570911) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He's fooball crazy From: cyder_drinker I wasn't sad at loosing the record, I was *gutted*. Rolf is, in my opinion (and the other tens of thousands who saw him at Glastonbury Festival) a bit of a folk hero. Also the Wurzels, who, although not creating anything original for years, still sell out every gig they do. |
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13 Oct 01 - 05:58 PM (#571415) Subject: Lyr Add: FITBA' CRAZY [FOOTBALL CRAZY] (Curran) From: Nynia Adam McNaughtan, in his sleeve notes for "Words, Words, Words" states that the song was written by James Curran, who came to Glasgow from Donegal as a boy and died in 1900. He goes on to say, " I have here restored some of his lines, which the tradition, drawing on Irish sources, had dropped. What??? You expect me to transcribe it for you too??? Oh OK then. FITBA' CRAZY. You a' know my big brither Jock, his right name's Johnny Shaw Last week he joined a fitba' club for he's mad aboot fitba' He's got two black eyes already and teeth oot by the root Since Jock's face came in contact wi' anither fella's boot Chorus: 'Cause he's fitba' crazy, he's fitba' mad The fitba' it has ta'en away the wee bit sense he had. And it wid take a dozen servants his claes tae wash an' scrub Since Jock became a member o' that terrible fitba' club The first game he took part in I wis there mysel' an' saw They had twa half bricks for goalposts and a tin can for the ba' The Prince O' Wales was present wi' lords and ladies grand Oor Jock he got an egg box and he made a big grandstand Oh a' the fitba' teams afloat he swears they are the prime And ye want tae hear him bouncin' about beating record time They've challenged every other side but nane will tak' them up Since they beat the blind asylum for a leather plated cup His wife she says she'll leave him if he disnae keep Away frae playing fitba' at nightime in his sleep He ca's her Pat McGinty an'ither names sae drole Lasy night he kicked her oot the bed and swore it wis a goal All the best, Nynia. |
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13 Oct 01 - 07:08 PM (#571448) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He's fooball crazy From: Susanne (skw) Many thanks, Nynia! |
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14 Oct 01 - 04:48 AM (#571655) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He's fooball crazy From: Hillheader Nynia From memory most of the words are correct but I recall the first line as "You all know my wee brother, his name is Jock McGraw". change the word "Servants" to "skivvies". An alternative ending to the third verse has:
The Provost of Glesga he was there Wi' lords and ladies fair. A additional verse is:-
In the middle of the field at Hampden Park the captain said "McGraw" This is the version that Robin Hall and Jimmy MacGregor sung. |
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14 Oct 01 - 04:04 PM (#571925) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He's fooball crazy From: Nynia "From memory most of the words are correct but I recall the first line as...." As was clearly stated Dave"bhoy" the above posting was transcribed from Adam McNaughtan's recording and not from anybody's memory, either perfect or flawed. Thank you, however, for reminding me why it is that I don't bother to post on this forum anymore. Nynia. |
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14 Oct 01 - 05:10 PM (#571971) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He's fooball crazy From: GUEST,Ewan McVicar Jimmy MacGregor claims copyright on the version he and Robin sang, as he says he wrote most of the words. PRS accept his claim. A sticky one! |
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14 Oct 01 - 05:40 PM (#571982) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: He's fooball crazy From: Hillheader Nynia My apologies. I was genuinely trying to be helpful but and did not intend any criticism. I was simply quoting the version I learned when a boy all too many years ago - as sung by Robin Hall and Jimmy MacGregor. The other verse incidently is:-
His wife says she will leave him However, if you do not post on this forum any more how did we get the question in the first place? Davebhoy |
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19 Mar 07 - 10:06 AM (#2001059) Subject: Origins: football crazy From: GUEST,Colin Bargery Does anyone know the origins of the song "football crazy, football mad" ? I first heard it sung by Robin Hall and Jimmie McGregor so I assume its Scottish and probably Glaswegian. Is it a folk song or an adoption from Music Hall ? |
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19 Mar 07 - 10:14 AM (#2001065) Subject: RE: Origins: football crazy From: GUEST,Terry McDonald It appears on Ewan MacColl and A.L. Lloyd's 1958 LP, 'Bold Sportsmen All' and according to Lloyd (who wrote the sleeve notes) 'The song Football Crazy has been on the go for at least fifty years. The present version is local to Ireland, and was learned from Seamus Ennis, the well-known piper.' |
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19 Mar 07 - 10:15 AM (#2001069) Subject: RE: Origins: football crazy From: John MacKenzie 31 March 2006 FITBA CRAZY AFTER ALL THESE YEARS Big 1960s folk hit is revealed as first ever football song By George Mair IT WAS made popular by Robin Hall and Jimmie Macgregor in the 60s - but now it seems that Fitba'j Crazy was actually the world's first football song. An early version of the comedy turn has been uncovered - in a penny news-sheet from the 1880s. The Dooley Fitba Club is the original version of the song, written by Glaswegian James Curran. Experts say it marks the emergence of football as a huge part of popular culture. It was published in Dundee in the form of a broadside - the single sheet equivalent of today's papers. With four verses and chorus, the song also features "patter" delivered between verses by comedienne JG McDonald to her music hall audience. She even makes reference to Rangers, against whom Dooley - an old Scots word for sorrowful or dopey - had supposedly played a charity match. A rare printed copy of the broadside is now kept at the National Library of Scotland. Rare books curator Eoin Shalloo said yesterday: "This is the earliest song about organised football that we are aware of - you'd certainly struggle to find one older because it coincides with the birth of the modern game. "The broadside doesn't have a date on it but James Curran was a popular songwriter and parodist in the late 19th century. "At the height of his fame, he earned between £10 and £15 a week, a huge sum at the time - but he was a drinker and died in the Glasgow poorhouse in the 1890s." Veteran football pundit Bob Crampsey said: "It was the very early stages so the timing would be about right for this to be the first football song. "Crowds grew because of the railway and the notion of not working all day on a Saturday emerged." The full song can be seen in The Word on the Street, an online exhibition at website www.nls.uk. From the Scottish Daily Record of the date at the head of the article. Giok |
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19 Mar 07 - 04:43 PM (#2001406) Subject: RE: Origins: football crazy From: Nigel Parsons Giok: Nice article. A few 'clickable links' might help it along. Is that date at the top (31st March 2006) the date of publication, or the date the story was written (for publication the next day[April 1st!]). The link required is National Library of Scotland Cheers Nigel |
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20 Mar 07 - 05:13 AM (#2001818) Subject: RE: Origins: football crazy, football mad From: GUEST,Colin Bargery Thanks all. great stuff. |
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20 Mar 07 - 05:29 AM (#2001824) Subject: RE: Origins: football crazy, football mad From: John MacKenzie Date of actual publication according to the newspaper's web site Nigel. G |
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27 May 11 - 07:04 AM (#3161201) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Football Crazy? / Fitba' Crazy From: GUEST,Guest Hi, everybody! I'm listening to a version of 'football crazy' with Johnny Beattie but can't rally get the words right. It's hard with Scots... I tried to write it down, can anyone correct me? Thanks! He's fitba crazt noo, he's jongling mad the fitba game has robbed him o the wee bit sense he had noo he's cut doon all his drinkin and the winchie it was crumped when oor Jock became a member o that terrible fitba club Noo Jock supports the celtic and he cheers the rangers too it all does seem to him as it was green and white and blue he went to see an earthy match tae cheer them baith like loun poor Jockey and the dump he get as flattned as the crown He's fitba crazt noo, he's jongling mad the fitba game has robbed him o the wee bit sense he had noo he's cut doon all his drinkin and the winchie it was crumped when oor Jock became a member o that terrible fitba club The only game he every played, diminutve yellow he got a trial for Poodle Queens and played it handed part when he was shown the yellow cab, he made this earnest plea what, shut up limmon fassa or we'll kick the referee He's fitba crazt noo, he's jongling mad the fitba game has robbed him o the wee bit sense he had noo he's cut doon all his drinkin and the winchie it was crumped when oor Jock became a member o that terrible fitba club One year he went to Wembley and wan the scots at one he ran onto that football pitch and tought he had some fun he dug up some big dochter toughs their idiots guardin yets and the stringish T he's wearing it is made from Wembley nets He's fitba crazt noo, he's jongling mad the fitba game has robbed him o the wee bit sense he had noo he's cut doon all his drinkin and the winchie it was crumped when oor Jock became a member o that terrible fitba club |
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27 May 11 - 08:01 AM (#3161222) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Football Crazy? / Fitba' Crazy From: GUEST,Jane Ann Liston Unlikely to be 'crazt' - should be 'crazy'. 4th verse - it will be yellow 'card' not 'cab'. Penultimate verse - first line, end is probably: ',,, whan the Scots had won'. 3rd line - that will be 'turf's not 'toughs'. I think it was 1977 when after Scotland actually won at Wembley, the fans celebrated by taking bits of turf away as a souvenir. Others climbed onto the goal posts which of course collapsed. For years my father. a Kirk elder, had a piece of orange nylon cord on the wall which he said was from the goal! Last verse - 3rd line the word is probably 'winchin' (being familiar with a young lady, m'lud) and 'cramped' rather than 'crumped. The earlier posting referring to 'Singing Together in 1968' explains why my little brother came home around that time singing 'Football Crazy' whereas I knew it as 'Fitba Crazy', probably from Hall & Macgregor. I just thought that his school, George Heriot's, had insisted on 'proper' English rather than Scots! |
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27 May 11 - 03:39 PM (#3161438) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Football Crazy? / Fitba' Crazy From: Jim McLean This song/derivation has been covered many times, I think, but I must comment on "jongling mad". Johnny was sing "he's gone clean mad". |
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28 May 11 - 10:52 AM (#3161736) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Football Crazy? / Fitba' Crazy From: GUEST,leeneia That makes sense, Jim. Thanks. You can hear this song on YouTube. There's a version sung by Hall & MacGregor. I think they sing it too fast. In my opinion, that pace has 'television producer' stamped all over it. |
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29 May 11 - 08:23 AM (#3162062) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Football Crazy? / Fitba' Crazy From: McGrath of Harlow "Crazt" or "crazed" means the same as "crazy", and scans better in that version (which I haven't heard) |
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29 May 11 - 09:39 AM (#3162100) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Football Crazy? / Fitba' Crazy From: Jim McLean The transcriber of the Johnny Beattie version wrote 'crazt noo' but Johnny sang 'crazy', two syllables and no 'noo' (the noo!) |
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29 May 11 - 10:26 AM (#3162123) Subject: RE: Lyr Req: Football Crazy? / Fitba' Crazy From: Jim McLean I should have said Johnny sings ' he's fitba' crazy now, he's gone clean mad" ... slightly posher than the usual Glasgow version, (now instead of noo). |