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Author Req: All among the Barley

19 Oct 01 - 11:14 AM (#575599)
Subject: All among the barley
From: Gypsy

Hey, anyone have the abc for this tune? Can't quite get it, and i know that it must be simple beyond simple. Thanks, all.

19 Oct 01 - 11:28 AM (#575611)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: All among the barley
From: Sorcha

Is this it? Scroll to bottom to click for page 2.

19 Oct 01 - 11:30 AM (#575613)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: All among the barley
From: GUEST,SUsan-Marie at home

Gypsy - I have it as a noteworthy composer file. I could convert it to a midi, convert that to text, and post it here - but I've never done it before and don't know if it will work the first time. I can e-mail you the midi directly, or I can even FAX you the sheet music I use for it. WHat's your preference?

20 Oct 01 - 11:59 PM (#576604)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: All among the barley
From: Gypsy

Gee, what a ton of help! Sorcha, thanks so much for the site! Am printing, and will transpose into the key of playable. (No flats on my dulcimer) Susan Marie, if you have this in A, C, D, or G, would love a copy. Anyway you want to do it, let me know what is YOUR convenience. Thanks to all, for all the help.

21 Oct 01 - 12:41 AM (#576618)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: All among the barley
From: CapriUni

Sorcha --

Great site! though the music is a wee bit hard for me to read that way ;-), by squinting down at the bottom of the page (the photocopied page, not the web page) it looked like it said that it was "Encoded and enforced" (something like that) by the Library of Congress 1871... Sounds like copyright to me, but I thought American copyright law didn't start until 1900, at least for literature. Is it different for music?

22 Oct 01 - 11:22 AM (#577363)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: All among the barley
From: Gypsy

"Entered according to the Act of Congress, 1871" Whatizzat?

22 Oct 01 - 01:27 PM (#577437)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: All among the barley
From: Susan-Marie

Gypsy - I can put this into any key you want. Easiest for me is to FAX or mail it to you. I can give you versions in several keys if you want (Noteworthy Composer transposes automatically). I probably have it in D right now.

E-mail me at susan.stedman@verizon.net and give me your fax # or address (and what keys you want it in). I also have a great recording of it with people doing 16-part harmony on the chorus. I could send you a tape of that if you're interested. It's a great song - our band does it at every gig this time of year.

22 Oct 01 - 11:23 PM (#577851)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: All among the barley
From: Gypsy

What a heroine! Email sent.....thanks all

23 Oct 01 - 12:41 PM (#578139)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: All among the barley
From: GUEST,JohnB

Johnny Collins does this song, although the tune and arrangement are different to the one given above. Anyone have a clue who the AT. who is credited for the words is/was. JohnB

24 Oct 01 - 01:29 AM (#578545)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: All among the barley
From: Anglo

Johnny Collins' sleevenotes: All Among The Barley is from Alfred Williams "Folk Songs of the Upper Thames" set to a superbly singable tune by Mike Gabriel of Cheltenham. He adds: I got it from Maureen 'Mo' Marshall who runs the folk club at the Lamb Inn, Iron Acton, near Bristol.

This from "Free & Easy" 1982, Traditional Sound Recordings. I haven't seen the early Johnny Collins CD that I think Fellside put out recently, so I don't know if it is on there. They apparently now own Traditional Sound Recordings, so I hope we see more of them.

24 Oct 01 - 03:37 AM (#578568)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: All among the barley
From: nutty

Here is a broadside of the song in the Bodleian Library dated 1874.

ALL AMONG THE BARLEY

24 Oct 01 - 03:43 AM (#578570)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: All among the barley
From: nutty

And another that could be as early as 1863 ..... which, interestingly, is to be sung in a totally different way from both the sheet music version and the Johnny Collins version

ALL AMONG THE BARLEY - 2

28 Oct 01 - 11:48 AM (#581384)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: All among the barley
From: Barbara

And the tune is posted on Alan's Mudcat midi page to be found in the links, or CLICK HERE
Blessings,
Barbara

28 Oct 01 - 11:50 AM (#581385)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: All among the barley
From: Barbara

Oops, blew the link. Go to Alan's Mudcat Midi Page and look under the 'A's.
Bkessings,
Barbara

28 Oct 01 - 06:31 PM (#581574)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: All among the barley
From: Gypsy

Barbara, am i a major moron, or is that link sick? Doesn't seem to be working for me. Unless i got the wrong one.

29 Oct 01 - 03:35 AM (#581766)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: All among the barley
From: nutty

try again MUDCAT MIDI'S

29 Oct 01 - 11:24 AM (#581947)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: All among the barley
From: Gypsy

Thankee kindly!

01 Nov 01 - 12:28 PM (#583990)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: All among the barley
From: Barbara

Sorry, I put a space where there oughtn't to be one. Alan's page can be acessed through the links box above right.
Blessings,
Barbara

01 Nov 01 - 01:07 PM (#584017)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: All among the barley
From: nutty

Just unearthed some information that I was given about this song ... although I must stress that the authenticity of it is not confirmed.

All among the Barley .... words by Alfred Williams
Tune written by Mike and Jackie Gabriel (This is the tune sung by Johnny Collins of which the MIDI is posted in this thread)

01 Nov 01 - 01:16 PM (#584029)
Subject: RE: Tune Req: All among the barley
From: Malcolm Douglas

Alfred Williams didn't write the words, though they were taken from his book Folk-Songs of the Upper Thames (1923), where the song appeared as The Ripe and Bearded Barley.  He commented, "Popular at Stanton Harcourt, where I obtained it of Henry Serman, a farm hand".

Williams published only the texts of the songs he had collected; he intended to return for the tunes at a later date, but was never able to.

Messages from multiple threads combined. Messages below are from a new thread.
-Joe Offer-

12 Apr 03 - 06:58 PM (#932040)
Subject: Author req:
From: Zany Mouse

Does anyone know the origins of All Among The Barley? DT doesn't give an author. Could this be by the famous Trad Anon?

Any info would be good.

ZM

12 Apr 03 - 07:12 PM (#932049)
Subject: RE: Author req: All Among the Barley
From: Zany Mouse

Having posted this Mick tells me he had put up an answer to this very question in the past.

In case any of you are interested his answer is:

The version commonly heard in the UK is, according to the notes on Johnny Collins' Free And Easy, words from Alfred Williams' Folk Songs Of The Upper Thames and tune put to it by Mike Gabriel

ZM

12 Apr 03 - 08:07 PM (#932077)
Subject: RE: Author Req: All among the barley
From: Leadfingers

Good old Trad Wrote most of the old songs.