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BS: That bloody woman

27 Oct 01 - 06:19 AM (#580819)
Subject: That bloody woman
From: Dead Horse

Havn't we had enough of Thatcher? Time she was dead and buried. (not necessarily in that order)


27 Oct 01 - 06:37 AM (#580823)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: McGrath of Harlow

Even before I opened this thread I knew it was going to be about her...I suspect that we're stuck with her as the sort of mythical figure. "If you don't drink up your nice milk Mrs Thatcher is going to come and get you." A sort of real life Baba Yaga.


27 Oct 01 - 07:07 AM (#580829)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Tone d' F

but she cancelled milk


27 Oct 01 - 08:36 AM (#580855)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: GUEST,McGrath of Harlow

Precisely - thge threat would be that she'd come and snatch it off you.


27 Oct 01 - 10:23 AM (#580898)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Gareth

Errr Kevin - surely some logic fault there ??

Gareth


27 Oct 01 - 10:38 AM (#580903)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Allan C.

DH, I am not at all familiar with the laws of the UK, but here in the States, what you have stated here can be considered a death threat and can be prosecuted. You may wish to reconsider your wording in the future - no matter your level of disgust.


27 Oct 01 - 10:39 AM (#580904)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: nutty

Forgive me for appearing dense but I thought we had got rid of her because we had had enough !!!!


27 Oct 01 - 12:07 PM (#580934)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Mr Red

bloody = red n'est c'est pas? Labour = Red?
& Spot the difference.
Now that I have crept the thread over to the encumbant government shall we just forget who ever it was we started on about?


27 Oct 01 - 12:21 PM (#580939)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Bert

Allan, In England that would obviously be a joke. But if he were to be prosecuted, he would have so much popular support that they could never get a conviction.

I can remember singing "We'll hang Anthony Eden (Or any other political adversary) from a sour apple tree". Unfortunately no one did.


27 Oct 01 - 06:17 PM (#581069)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Dead Horse

Free speach is the one thing we got wot them others (name your villains)is dead set against. Thank (name your own diety) for democracy. (It also got rid of HER)


27 Oct 01 - 06:30 PM (#581074)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Gareth

As many a trial in the Uk proved TBW was not a lover of free speach - I have no doubt that if it were possible she would have taxed it.

Gareth


27 Oct 01 - 06:41 PM (#581083)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Little Hawk

Saw the thread title and thought "Maggie Thatcher!". Ha!

Ah, yes, and she would have taxed air and sunlight too, no doubt, if she could have.

- LH


27 Oct 01 - 06:44 PM (#581085)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Grab

Allan, please tell me you're joking. Or is this yet another thing where the rest of the world shakes its head with a wry smile and says "Only in America..."?

Graham.


27 Oct 01 - 06:48 PM (#581089)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Gareth

No - Allan is not joking - there are precedents enough.

Though I concur that no British Jury would convict.

Gareth


27 Oct 01 - 06:53 PM (#581094)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Allan C.

Yeah, what Gareth said.


27 Oct 01 - 10:59 PM (#581167)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: wysiwyg

Another thread based on the principle that a good thing can be gotten by going at a problem with the "Ain't It Awful" approach.

Too bad that doesn't work!

~S~


28 Oct 01 - 12:02 AM (#581199)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: DougR

Geeze! It thought this thread might be about Julia Roberts.

DougR


28 Oct 01 - 12:41 AM (#581211)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: paddymac

The case law treats common people and prominent or "public" figures differently. I doubt that Deadhorse's statement "Time she was dead and buried. (not necessarily in that order)" could ever be considered as a death threat, especially since she is resident in a different country.

If I might inject a bit of music into the thread, Robbie O'Connell's "Humorous Songs" ((c)1998 by Jimmy Keane & Robby O'Connell) includes an absolutely hilarious track called "How Does Dennis Do It?", which speaks the the, ahem, performance of matrimonial duties by Iron Britches' no-doubt long suffering spouse.


28 Oct 01 - 02:28 AM (#581256)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: GUEST,Boab

The Eldritch Screecher was, in fact, given the heave BY HER OWN PARTY in a belated [and abortive] attempt to stay its fall into the abyss of near-obliteration.


28 Oct 01 - 03:26 AM (#581263)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Metchosin

WYSIWYG, I fail to see the difference between the game "Aint it Awful" and the game "Sunny Side Up". A game is a game, no matter which side of the coin you call.


28 Oct 01 - 05:22 AM (#581275)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Fiolar

I remember discussing with a die hard Tory, the possibility that Thatcher could disband Parliament and have the Tories the only ruling party in the land. After all they had the majority to do it at the time. Cromwell managed it. I often wonder if the thought ever crossed her mind.


28 Oct 01 - 06:53 AM (#581284)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: The Walrus

It always struck me that TINA <1> was one of the best arguments against republicanism. Can you imagine PRESIDENT Thatcher? Arrrggghhhh !

Walrus

<1>"There Is No Alternative" - she made it a catch phrase of hers


28 Oct 01 - 07:57 AM (#581305)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Dead Horse

paddymac (above) said that my statement "Time she was dead and buried. (not necessarily in that order)" could never be considered as a death threat, especially since she is resident in a different country. I got news for you, mate. She is resident on a different planet!!! Anyways, the whole point of message was to say lets stop talking about the bitch............. ......(I think I'll have to think it out again.....)


28 Oct 01 - 08:09 AM (#581308)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Allan C.

But...but...YOU started it, DH! *G*


30 Oct 01 - 08:13 AM (#582526)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Mr Red

I think we are suffering a Prime Ministerial Syndrome


30 Oct 01 - 11:20 AM (#582637)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Dave the Gnome

What's she been and gone and done now then? I have been in an alcoholic haze since Friday night...;-)

Cheers

Dave the Gnoledgeless Gnome


30 Oct 01 - 11:38 AM (#582644)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Cllr

Rise again Rise again etc etc

Cllr


30 Oct 01 - 12:30 PM (#582672)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Paul from Hull

Not unless some fool takes the stake out of her corpse, Councillor...

*WG*


30 Oct 01 - 01:06 PM (#582681)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Cllr

P from H Ah! So that was what Blair meant when he said "We want a stake holders society"

Cllr


30 Oct 01 - 02:09 PM (#582703)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Paul from Hull

Hehehehe!


30 Oct 01 - 04:23 PM (#582779)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: McGrath of Harlow

Here's a song in the DT about Thatcher's finest hour...


30 Oct 01 - 05:25 PM (#582812)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Jane2001

Now what are you really complaining about - the fact that she's a BLOODY woman, or that she's a bloody WOMAN? Just wondering. After all it's some time since she got kicked out.


30 Oct 01 - 06:27 PM (#582834)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Gareth

Jane 2001

Those that forget the lessons of history are condemned to repeat them - but then there are many in the Conservative Party who think that That Bloody Woman was a pinko moderate.

Gareth

In our little valley, they closed the Colliery down
And the Pit head baths are a Supermarket now


30 Oct 01 - 09:01 PM (#582888)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: kendall

Dave, I thought I drank all of your spiced rum? It sure felt that way the next day.


31 Oct 01 - 04:08 AM (#582969)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Cllr

Damn Right. definatly, not right-wing enough If I was in charge it would be a choice between national service or enforced banjo playing, that would sort them out. Gareth you've finally caught me and the rest of the "many" out. Or could it be you have made a huge sweeping assumption that could'nt be backed up in a month of Sundays. Cllr


31 Oct 01 - 07:03 AM (#582997)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: McGrath of Harlow

National Banjo Service. With squeezeboxes as well. That's what the young louts want to sort them out.

You see them everywhere with their hair cut short. Designer labels where there should be slogans. Most of them wouldn't know the difference between a chillum and a carrot. Put them on a picket line and they wouldn't know which way to face. Take them on a sit-down and they'd want a cushion.

Off they go to their little jobs every morning. Pension plans...mortgages.

Younger generation's gone to the dogs.


31 Oct 01 - 07:18 AM (#583002)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Cllr

MoH LOL, Mind you if sent a squad of banjo players into the TWAT zone (The War Against Terrorism)I bet the Taliban would be surrenderring all over the place. Fighting terror with terror. Cllr


01 Nov 01 - 06:23 AM (#583712)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: JudeL

Err ... wasn't that what the bagpipes were used for ... striking terror into the hearts of the enemy Jude


01 Nov 01 - 06:44 AM (#583719)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Sarah the flute

I thought she was dead and buried and that she just reappears every Halloween .... or no may be it's the Tory Party Conference..... I know it's an event when a bunch of dead people, zombies etc congregate!


01 Nov 01 - 08:31 AM (#583775)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Firecat

Oh, sorry! I thought we were talking about Anne Robinson!


01 Nov 01 - 09:42 AM (#583827)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: balladeer

Does anyone know who originally coined the phrase, "that bloody woman?"


01 Nov 01 - 02:39 PM (#584112)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Gareth

balladeer. It is atributed to Neil Kinnock - rumour has it after a session in the "Tredegar Junction Arms" at Pontllanfraith.

Gareth


01 Nov 01 - 03:20 PM (#584153)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: McGrath of Harlow

I don't think "coining" would be the right term, since it's a phrase people will have been using for the last few centures.

After all, think of Bloody Mary and of Charles I being described as "The Man of Blood" by Cromwell. (Talk about the pot calling the kettle black.) I doubt if there are many people who haven't found themselves using it at some time or other to describe their friends, neighhbours and family members, at moments of high stress.

"Applying" is more appropriate for what Kinnock may have said in the pub. (And I doubt if he was the first by a long chalk to use it of Thatcher.)


01 Nov 01 - 11:19 PM (#584389)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: balladeer

Yes, McGrath, but ever since Mrs. Thatcher became a household name, everyone knows who "that bloody woman" refers to. Coined in that sense...


02 Nov 01 - 04:06 AM (#584445)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Dave the Gnome

I'd have thought that Ryder-Haggards 'She who must be obeyed' would have been more apt while she was in power;-)

Anyhow - I still don't know what the recent turn of events was to spark this thread. Something that happened on the 26th or 27th I guess? Anyone want to elucidate? But I must warn, it can cause blindness...

Cheers

DtG


02 Nov 01 - 12:59 PM (#584781)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Cllr

I notice that Max has made a call for tolerance and less hatefull threads - not just from guests but from regulars. So how about a "We love Maggie" thread, Mr Mcgrath could start it to show how tolerant we all are. Cllr(from a long way away)


02 Nov 01 - 03:04 PM (#584896)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Dead Horse

OH how I love Maggie, now that she is gone Just look what she has done for us, each and every one She showed what Tories really are, I'm humbled in respect So now I'm happily red or green, the blues I do reject. Hows that for forgivness?


02 Nov 01 - 05:03 PM (#584997)
Subject: RE: BS: That bloody woman
From: Cllr

Oh dear, sarcasm. For saying something like that you should be whipped. Of course I should have realised that I would be flogging a dead horse. Cllr