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23 Feb 98 - 06:58 AM (#22032) Subject: Lyric request From: Fergus The other day I bought an album called "Seven Drunken Nights", a collection of folk songs sung by The Blarney Lads". Some of these I'm familiar with, eg. the title track (in which only five nights are featured, incidentally), but some of my favourites I've never heard of: Specifically, "Paddle me own canoe" and "Lannegan's Ball". I was wondering if anyone knows the words to these? Thanks - Fergus Murray fm6790@bris.ac.uk |
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23 Feb 98 - 07:08 AM (#22034) Subject: RE: From: Wolfgang Hell Hi Fergus, enter "Lanigan's" in the search window (upper right) and you have found one of them. Wolfgang |
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23 Feb 98 - 07:47 AM (#22036) Subject: RE: From: Alan of Australia G'day, If I had a wife the bane of me life I'd tell you what I would do I'd buy her a boat and set her afloat and paddle me own canoe. I'm not aware of any more verses. Cheers, |
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23 Feb 98 - 11:02 AM (#22047) Subject: RE: From: Martin Ryan Lannigan's Ball mentions "Brook's Academy" as the place where our hero learned to dance. About fifteen years ago, at the start of a huge revival of interest in Irish "set-dancing", an organisation was set up under the same name to run classes, revive old dances, publish material etc. Mind you, when its sung in Ireland the chorus usually goes "Six long weeks...." rather than three! Maybe we're slow learners! Regards |
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23 Feb 98 - 11:33 AM (#22052) Subject: RE: From: Bruce O. "Lannigan's Ball" is in John K. Casey's 'The Rising of the Moon, and other Ballads, Songs, and Legends', n.d., (1864 or slightly later) without attribution. Also there is "Lannigan's Wake" 'Written and first sung in America by William Carleton at Tony Pastor's Opera House, New York. Air - Lannigan's Ball.' This commences "No doubt yee have heard of poor Jerry Lannigan". |
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23 Feb 98 - 09:52 PM (#22089) Subject: RE: From: chet w "Paddle me own canoe" is on one of the Chieftains' albums. Can't remember which one. Good luck, Chet W. |
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24 Feb 98 - 06:43 AM (#22112) Subject: RE: Spellings From: Fergus Ach, the troubles caused by different spellings of words when the search engine is looking for exact matches! I couldn't find 'Bold O'Donahue' either, until I did a search for 'Blarney'. Donoghue, Donohue, Donaghue... It would be lovely to have some kind of phonetic matching built into the search engine... I wonder if there's such an engine knocking around somewhere that the site could appropriate. Cheers, Wolfgang, for pointing me to Lanigan anyway (Lannigan... Lanegan...) and to everyone else... Fergus fm6790@bris.ac.uk |
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24 Feb 98 - 08:21 AM (#22113) Subject: RE: From: Wolfgang You're welcome, Fergus. I dare to say that there is none of us who hasn't asked at least once for a song that could have been found in the database with different search words. Dick reminds us often not to use names for a search, but if you do not know much more what else can you do? Entering "ball", for instance, also brings you this song (among more than onehundred nonhits). But sometimes the square brackets indicating phrases and the star sign indicating indifference to spelling before or after a group of letters you are sure to be in a song help. In your case, [lan* ball] or [bold O'Don*] would have done the job. However, this is written in hindsight. If for obscure reasons the DT-database would have these songs as "Brave O'Don*" and "Larrigan's ball" this approach would fail as well. Wolfgang |
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24 Feb 98 - 09:03 PM (#22154) Subject: ADD: Paddle My Own Canoe From: dulcimer I don't know if this is the Paddle Your Own Canoe you are thinking of or if it has great historical significance, but this one is in L.E. Wilder's By the Shores of Silver Lake. (Little House of the Prairie is only one of her interesting books.) This is a song she learned from her Pa and sung on the American frontier. I think it was sung to the tune of Rosin the Bow and may indeed have Irish origins. 1.I've traveled about a bit in my time And troubles I've had me a few But found it better in the ocean of life To paddle my own canoe. 2.My wants are few, I care not at all, If my debts are paid when I die I drive away strife in the ocean of life While I paddle my own canoe. 3. The love your neighbor as yourself As the world you go traveling through And never sit down with a tear or a frown But paddle your own canoe. I hope the lines are broken. I just now trying. |
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24 Feb 98 - 09:39 PM (#22162) Subject: RE: From: dulcimer I put some lyrics to Padddle Your... on the forum, but didn't realize it was set for 3 days. Fergus, check it out. I hope it is readable. If not I will repost it on one day. |
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25 Feb 98 - 12:31 AM (#22175) Subject: RE: Lannigan's Ball From: MarcB I sing this. If you haven't found words let me know and I'll post them to you. |
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25 Feb 98 - 01:19 AM (#22180) Subject: RE: 7 Drunken Nights From: Corinna of California Love that title! I am searching for the quintessential collection of drinking songs pre-1940, the earlier the better. Between the english, irish, and aussies I believe I have found the correct group to address this. Fergus, who produced the album you bought and where might I find one? Martin, have you more info on the Academy? Would they be a good resource for researching lyrics and musical instruments? Fergus and Wolfgang, if you know which engine the site uses you should be able to get a run down on best search techniques. What you are dreaming of exists but most sites do not carry it. Mostly libraries use phonetic search engines that forgive spelling without giving you 50 gazillion hits. You are talking BIG money and slow retrieval times which is why these type of search engines are not normally for general use. |
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25 Feb 98 - 10:26 AM (#22193) Subject: RE: From: Songbooks of drinking songs are 'Bacchus and Venus', c 1737 and c 1772, and 'The Anatomy of Melancholy', 1749. There are also a lot of them in 'Pills to Purge Melancholy', 6 vols, 1719-20. |
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25 Feb 98 - 07:00 PM (#22267) Subject: RE: From: Tim Jaques tjaques@netcom.ca Paddle Me Own Canoe was on the Chieftain's live album recorded in Boston and Montreal and perhaps another place. They sang it at the end of an instrumental. |
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26 Feb 98 - 01:19 PM (#22343) Subject: RE: Paddle me own canoe From: Fergus Dulcimer, The thread was listed when I switched to the full year display, but it wouldn't link to it. Actually, I just read the lyrics you posted above and they look like they're to a different song. The words you posted could fit the same tune, though. The song I'm looking for has a line that goes something like, "I have no wife to bother me life, nor lover to prove untrue... but all day long, a laugh and a song, and paddle me own canoe." That's probably slightly wrong. |
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26 Feb 98 - 06:11 PM (#22392) Subject: RE: From: dulcimer I hope someone has the Chieftain lyrics to Paddle and can post them. We could be talking about the same song and only giving the lyrics from different generations and times. Laura Wilder writing about life on the American frontier and family values and for children might not have heard or wanted to give the lyrics about a wandering single man. It might also make a more interestng song to put all the verses we can find together. |
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26 Feb 98 - 08:32 PM (#22404) Subject: RE: From: Alan of Australia G'day, The lyrics I posted earlier are the Chieftan's lyrics via my memory, Cheers, |
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27 Feb 98 - 05:32 PM (#22457) Subject: RE: From: Corinna of California Thank you anonymous for the reference material. Does anyone know of any earlier references to say, Greece, Egypt, China and other cradles of civilization? |
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27 Feb 98 - 07:18 PM (#22480) Subject: RE: From: The earliest cradle is that called the fertile crescent. That cradle is being rocked pretty hard now by a man called Saddam Hussein. |
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27 Feb 98 - 07:30 PM (#22483) Subject: RE: From: MAG Love many, trust few Learn to paddle your own canoe. Don't have a source; sorry -- one of those things you see on somebody's wall.
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02 Mar 98 - 07:13 AM (#22718) Subject: RE: 7 Drunken Nights From: Fergus Corinna, The album is Published by Delta Music Ltd., Beckenham, Kent BR3 1QZ. You could try writing to them if you want to get a copy. The title track is the only one you could really call a drinking song. |
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05 Mar 98 - 10:53 PM (#23121) Subject: RE: From: Catfeet If you tack all the verses already posted together, you have a pretty fair amalgamation of the Cheiftains version of "Paddle you own canoe". I think there are only 2 or 3 words that are different. Catfeet |
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14 Feb 10 - 03:11 PM (#2839169) Subject: RE: Paddle me own canoe From: GUEST,steve ny Oh, ihave no wife to bother me life, no lover to prove untrue....???? I paddle me own own canoe |
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14 Feb 10 - 03:23 PM (#2839180) Subject: RE: Paddle me own canoe From: Bernard Pas de lieu Rhône que nous... |
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14 Feb 10 - 03:34 PM (#2839194) Subject: RE: Paddle me own canoe From: Steve Gardham Both of these songs were made famous by Harry Clifton in the 1860s before they were pirated by Pastor in America. There are several threads on Harry Clifton and all the songs he wrote that are now counted as folk songs. Just search for Harry Clifton. I think the cover of the 'Paddle y o c' sheet music is on Ebay at the moment. If I remember correctly Clifton got LB from D K Gavan the Galway poet as also 'Rocky Road to Dublin' |