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27 Mar 02 - 09:02 AM (#677308) Subject: Continued: Shame and Americans From: Mrrzy Thought the old thread was getting kind of long... |
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27 Mar 02 - 01:34 PM (#677490) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: Little Hawk Yes, it had amazing longevity. It is American foreign, domestic, military, and economic policies that are shameful...NOT Americans. Most Americans are simply among the many millions of ordinary people worldwide who are affected adversely by those policies on a regular basis, whether they know it or not. It's like a Hollywood disaster movie out there...only even stranger than that. - LH |
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27 Mar 02 - 01:39 PM (#677496) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: MMario very well summed up LH. |
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27 Mar 02 - 01:46 PM (#677499) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: SharonA Haven't we given Janet's troll-post enough attention yet? |
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27 Mar 02 - 01:59 PM (#677508) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: Wesley S SharonA - Apparently not. My guess is good for 50 or 60 more posts. I hope I'm wrong. |
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28 Mar 02 - 12:41 AM (#677893) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: DougR Nah, let run. L.H., Mrzzy, MMario, and others are having so much fun bashing the U.S., why deprive them? :>) DougR |
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28 Mar 02 - 12:54 AM (#677902) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: CarolC I don't know where you get the idea that people find admitting shame for anything to be "fun", DougR. I think, when one feels shame of any sort, one does it with a heavy heart. There's no fun in it at all. |
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28 Mar 02 - 07:57 AM (#678004) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: Troll When people go on and on about how ashamed they feel about something or keep pointing out the perceived defects of others, surely they gain SOME perverse pleasure from it, Carol. Otherwise, why go on? I find it hard to believe that their motives are purely altruistic. Just my opinion, of course. troll |
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28 Mar 02 - 10:42 AM (#678143) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: SharonA I'm with Troll. If you're all that ashamed, don't tell us; tell the politicians you're ashamed of! |
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28 Mar 02 - 10:43 AM (#678146) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: SharonA (Sorry; that should be "...of whom you are ashamed"!) |
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28 Mar 02 - 11:38 AM (#678223) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: Rick Fielding Since this is near the top I'll go against my better judgement and add something. Personally I'm a bit 'ashamed' that so many folks think there actually IS a Janet (who started the first one) and addressed the obvious long time UK sillycat (who knows what flame buttons to push...just check out the many other anti-yank threads with similar headers) in a serious way. I LUV the political discussions here, but boy it would be nice to see that kind dry up quickly. Rick |
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28 Mar 02 - 12:27 PM (#678272) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: Little Hawk Yikes! I've been fingered as a member of "The Gang of Three". Shouldn't Fionn, McGrath, and several others be in there too? Oh, it's lonely at the top... :-) - LH |
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28 Mar 02 - 12:54 PM (#678292) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: InOBU I feel left out of the left,... Larry of the left out left. |
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28 Mar 02 - 03:25 PM (#678400) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: Little Hawk Yeah. There's nothing worse than being left out... It's worse than being singled out! Where is MAV when we need him? - LH |
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28 Mar 02 - 03:31 PM (#678403) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: michaelr The horse is dead. You can stop beating it now... |
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28 Mar 02 - 04:31 PM (#678437) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: DougR Apologies to those who felt slighted. There is limited space to write in though, and there wouldn't be enough to list all of you. That's what one gets when one begins nameming names, someone is always left out and gets their feelings hurt. :>) DougR |
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28 Mar 02 - 04:54 PM (#678460) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: CarolC Troll and SharonA, I don't think most of the people DougR mentioned are having fun in this context, though I certainly could be wrong about that.
SharonA, I think it can sometimes be constructive to express how one feels in this sort of a context as well as in the way that you suggest. We each have to follow our own conscience about that sort of thing. |
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28 Mar 02 - 05:49 PM (#678513) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: SharonA Carol: I agree that it can be constructive to express one's feelings in this sort of context. But I think Troll has a point that "[going] on and on about how ashamed [one] feel[s] about something or keep[s] pointing out the perceived defects of others" slowly evolves from the expression of feelings into the venting of anger and frustration, which is pleasurable. The perversity of that pleasure comes into play when one is satisfied with simply venting one's feelings again and again about the same situation instead of doing anything constructive to change that situation for the better. |
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28 Mar 02 - 06:17 PM (#678539) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: CarolC Well, Sharon, I don't see MMario's name on the first thread at all, and I only see Mrrzy's name twice, so I don't see how anyone can suggest that they're going on and on about it. |
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28 Mar 02 - 07:59 PM (#678616) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: SharonA Carol: I'm not the one who named names! |
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28 Mar 02 - 08:06 PM (#678623) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: CarolC I think we're going around in circles. |
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28 Mar 02 - 08:38 PM (#678637) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: GUEST,SharonA at the library Hi, again, Carol. What I was trying to say in my last post is that I had made a generalized statement agreeing with Troll's generalized statement. I didn't mean to target the individuals singled out by DougR, or anyone else. I didn't take notice of who posted the most on Part One of this thread; I just know that it was well over 100 posts, and I got the sense that a lot of the statements made there had already been made on a lot of other political threads. All I'm saying is that when complaining becomes an end in itself, it's fun but it's not productive. Hope that's a little more clear (...and now you know how long it takes me to log off and go to the library! *G*). I'm sorry if I offended anyone; it certainly was not my intention to do so. Sharon |
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28 Mar 02 - 10:45 PM (#678715) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: DougR It is becoming more and more difficult to post with tongue firmly implanted in cheek without someone taking offense. I really don't believe L. H. or others I used as an example in the post above were offended when I included them in the post. I took their replies to be as tongue in cheek as was my original post. Sigh. DougR |
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28 Mar 02 - 11:40 PM (#678748) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: CarolC There's an art to it DougR. Maybe if you spent some time in Canada, you could hone, refine, and polish your "tongue in cheek" skills. I'm sure Little Hawk could give you some lessons ;-) |
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29 Mar 02 - 01:48 PM (#678929) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: Amergin I am ashamed to be American....I am also ashamed to be human....I really want to be a dog.... |
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29 Mar 02 - 02:02 PM (#678933) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: Mrrzy Thanks, CarolC! All I think I did was try to be nice and make a continued thread... I don't recall doing much if any bashing, so thanks for taking the time to check me out and save me doing it! |
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29 Mar 02 - 02:26 PM (#678944) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: InOBU Doug! Of course our reply was tongue in cheek... and Good Dog! Amergin! CHeers... Larry, sit Amergin, sit... good doggie! |
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29 Mar 02 - 02:55 PM (#678957) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: Little Hawk Hey, Doug...not to worry! I understood your humour entirely. I find the best remedy for when people insist on taking one's humorous remarks dead seriously and getting all upset about it is this: Say something so completely silly in response that only a complete moron could take it seriously...and if such a moron surfaces, then do the following: Agree with all their accusations about how awful you are and request more "praise and encouragement" along the same lines...since your appetite for abuse has, at that point, merely been whetted... :-) Presently, they will either get the joke...or they'll go away and find someone else to get righteously angry about. Do what Jesus did, in other words...turn the other cheek. - LH |
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29 Mar 02 - 03:00 PM (#678962) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: catspaw49 I guess when he ran out of "cheeks" they just nailed his ass up then....... Spaw(:<)) |
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29 Mar 02 - 03:34 PM (#678986) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: Steve in Idaho Or relocated their tongue?? This is too hilarious *BG* - He said with tongue in one of his cheeks - -
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29 Mar 02 - 03:53 PM (#678995) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: catspaw49 I agree Steve.......The whole thread was a sendup to begin with and it's really "evolved" but it sure is good for a laugh or two.... Spaw |
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29 Mar 02 - 03:53 PM (#678996) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: SharonA And on Good Friday yet! You guys should be ashamed of yourselves! *BiggerG* |
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29 Mar 02 - 04:05 PM (#679007) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: Little Hawk Oh, Spaw, you are so shameless! :-D I would fear for your immortal soul, but not to worry...they would never dare ship you off to a place with open fires all around. It would be like a reenactment of the Hindenburg disaster. - LH |
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29 Mar 02 - 04:33 PM (#679026) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: CarolC Glad to be of service, Mrrzy. Although I have to admit that I have no idea what these other guys are going on and on about. |
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29 Mar 02 - 05:34 PM (#679057) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: InOBU Yes, this thread should be renamed, something like is Amergin a good dog, who's a lefist and will spaw blow up if he goes to hell? Will that all fit on a thread name???????? Larry |
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29 Mar 02 - 05:42 PM (#679063) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: Little Hawk We really need to pressure Max to make longer thread names possible. This is a matter that needs to be dealt with! - LH |
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30 Mar 02 - 01:56 AM (#679325) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: michaelr I can't believe you guys... The horse is still dead. Really! |
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30 Mar 02 - 01:59 AM (#679327) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: CarolC You didn't really read this thread, did you michaelr? Nobody's talking about that horse any more. They're talking about dogs now. |
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30 Mar 02 - 07:47 AM (#679400) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: InOBU WHAT horse? Did I miss something? We Anglo Irish are supposed to have a horse as part of our cultural heritage, I missed mine! Is there a horse here now? I don't want it if it is dead... but, let me have a look, maybe it is just asleep. Can I keep in the livingroom Genie? Can it climb four flights of stairs? Can we feed it ricearoni? Does it speak ... like MR ED? Is it house broken? Does it eat recording equiptment? Can I name it something clever or does it have a name already? Mom's family are Lovari, they are really good horse doctors, maybe we can save it? HUH? CAN I???? Larry |
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30 Mar 02 - 08:27 AM (#679413) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: artbrooks Larry, Jenn's Anglo-Jewish, and she's always wanted a horse to keep in the bathtub. I guess wanting a horse comes out of the Anglo side, huh? If its dead, I'll take it...if it hasn't been dead too long, that is. Personally, I've always thought horses were mostly only good for eating-must be the French in me coming out. |
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30 Mar 02 - 10:59 AM (#679465) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: InOBU Depends how gamy the horse is, after a while, they are only good for glue. I actually have a pair of horse rib bones, I play, true story, found them on a beach in Ireland in the 70's ... attached to the whole skelaton... Cheers, and bon apitite, Larry |
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30 Mar 02 - 11:34 AM (#679487) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: GUEST,Mr. Ed I am getting very uncomfortable with all this talk about horses this and that. We have real lives, real problems, and I don't think all this is funny. Flog a dead horse in deed! Nnnneeeeegghhhhhbbbbbfffffllllllwwwwww, Mr. Ed. |
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30 Mar 02 - 11:40 AM (#679491) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: Big Mick I am on an extremely busy cycle, find a few minutes to pop in and what do I find? The "Reasons Not to Support Mudcat" and this horseshit trolling thread still going..........I love this place, and really like most of you, but.........geeziz......you need to go practice your music. LOL. Mick |
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30 Mar 02 - 05:47 PM (#679708) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: Little Hawk Absolutely! It's bloody irresponsible for people to keep refreshing this thread with total BS about horses. You won't catch me doing that. No way! Stop horsing around and talk about something that actually matters, something of prime importance in our lives, something weighty and musical at the same time... Like the Dylan/Shatner sessions in L.A. back in the late 70's... - LH |
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13 Apr 02 - 05:17 AM (#689022) Subject: RE: BS: Continued: Shame and Americans From: GUEST Isn't there a song or a book about the Ugly American but it isn't about how they look but about how they act? |