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28 May 97 - 09:22 PM (#5879) Subject: Help From: Deckard@sunline.net Can anyone help with the music for an old timey fiddle tune "Seneca Square Dance"? I caught it at a festival a few years back but have been unable to find anything on it since.. any help will be greatly appreciated. |
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28 May 97 - 11:43 PM (#5884) Subject: RE: Music for From: I know of two fine recordings of Seneca Square Dance, though I am sure that there are others. The first is by Fiddlin' Sam Long of the Ozarks on County CD 3506, recorded in 1926. The second is by Geoff Seitz of St. Louis, on his 1995 album, The Good Old Days Are Here. It is available from Oceana Productions, 4175 Loughborough Ave., St. Louis, MO 63116, though I know there are other sources as well. |
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31 May 97 - 09:55 AM (#5976) Subject: RE: Music for From: hartley@toto.pitton.com I have a version, but don't know how to send it over the net. Send your mailing address to my e-mail and I'll send a copy to you. |
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08 Apr 98 - 08:37 PM (#25485) Subject: sheet music/abc file for Seneca square dance From: B.Booth Does any one know where I could find sheet music or an abc file for the song Seneca Square Dance? It appeared Ry Cooder's album The Long Riders (1980)? |
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08 Apr 98 - 09:31 PM (#25488) Subject: RE: sheet music/abc file for Seneca square dance From: dulcimer I have it but am not very good at abc. I can send sheet music. You can contact me through personal message e-mail at the top of this forum with your address and I will send it. You might also check celtic sites under the name SSD or John Hoban's Polka. During the US Civil War, it was known as Waitin for the Federals. I play it very frequently as part of American folk or Celtic music, appropriately titled, of course, and often with other Irish polkas. |
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08 Apr 98 - 10:16 PM (#25490) Subject: RE: sheet music/abc file for Seneca square dance From: Dale Rose Since I don't know the Ry Cooder recording, I cannot say for sure that it is exactly the same tune, but Fiddlin' Sam Long recorded Seneca Square Dance in either January or February of 1926. He is generally considered to be the first Ozark musician to record. The song is available on Echoes Of The Ozarks, Volume One, County 3506, 1995. The album is an excellent anthology of mostly Arkansas musicians recorded 1926-1933.
Another good version, derived from Long's, is by Geoff Seitz of St. Louis on his The Good Old Days Are Here CD, Oceana 003. It is not as widely available, but you can get it through Elderly. |
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02 Oct 99 - 10:54 PM (#120185) Subject: Seneca Square Dance Midi? From: Nancy Have searched to no avail for Seneca Square Dance midi, (I want to transpose it with Cakewalk so I can play it too!). Anyone have it or know where I can find it? Thanks! Nancy |
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02 Oct 99 - 11:12 PM (#120192) Subject: RE: Seneca Square Dance Midi? From: Jon Freeman http://trillian.mit.edu/~jc/cgi/abc/FindTune?P=Seneca Jon |
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04 Oct 99 - 07:10 PM (#120713) Subject: RE: Seneca Square Dance Midi? From: Jo Taylor Gosh, bit slow isn't it? Seriously, thanks Jon for the link - managed to work my way back to the search page & found a couple of tunes that I can't be bothered to write out! Nancy, you can just punch the dots into Cakewalk (in score view) and make your own midis. Then tastefully arrange for bagpipe, slap bass and glockenspiel... (Ihave been having fun recently!!) Jo Taylor |
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14 Aug 01 - 01:04 PM (#527784) Subject: Seneca Square Dance From: GUEST,Ben Seymour I know the tune, I just want to find out which came first. Seneca Square Dance or Waiting for the Federals or does it have yet an older name. It sounds almost Scottish. Anyone? |
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14 Aug 01 - 01:27 PM (#527812) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Seneca Square Dance From: Malcolm Douglas You might like to have a look at the relevant entries in Andrew Kuntz's Fiddler's Companion: |
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15 Aug 01 - 02:05 PM (#528647) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Seneca Square Dance From: MMario refresh - Ben - you might want to tak a look at the Newcomer's Guide and FAQ. |
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03 Apr 10 - 11:04 AM (#2878750) Subject: RE: sheet music/abc file for Seneca square dance From: Jack Campin Look on John Chambers' Tunefinder. It's a very commonly played tune, more often known (in Scotland, anyway) as "Waiting for the Federals". Also called "Seneca Mountain Breakdown". |
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03 Apr 10 - 12:48 PM (#2878805) Subject: RE: sheet music/abc file for Seneca square dance From: open mike see here: J C tunefinder - great resource! bookmark this! it might also possibly be similar to cherokee shuffle, chinquapin or lost indian hey it only took 12 years to get an answer... hope you are still out there! |
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08 Apr 10 - 12:41 PM (#2882182) Subject: RE: sheet music/abc file for Seneca square dance From: GUEST,myliszt Hi, Check this link for the sheet music http://www.myliszt.com/index.php?searchstr=Seneca+Square+Dance&sheet=on&download=on Warm regards |
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08 Apr 10 - 01:57 PM (#2882239) Subject: RE: sheet music/abc file for Seneca square dance From: Jack Campin I've never got anywhere with that site - seems to need some sort of scripting I don't usually have enabled. And it doesn't look like it's designed to hand out anything free, which is not an unreasonable thing to ask for a widely played public domain tune from 150 years ago. Here it is the way I play it:
Sometimes played starting much slower, then accelerating a LOT after the first two times. |
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08 Apr 10 - 02:09 PM (#2882246) Subject: RE: sheet music/abc file for Seneca square dance From: open mike that last post can be deciphered by using the ABC program... here is one resource for this... http://www.concertina.net/tunes_convert.html does anyone else have another site for ABC ? |
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08 Apr 10 - 04:10 PM (#2882330) Subject: RE: sheet music/abc file for Seneca square dance From: Jack Campin http://www.folkinfo.org/songs/abcconvert.php It uses basically the same software as concertina.net, but I think they've reconfigured it to eliminate some of the silly defaults in the MIDI converter. Mudcat has a bug in the way it displays preformatted text, so when I lay ABC out readably as above, it's displayed with spaces at the start of each line. This means these converter websites won't recognize a straight copy-and-paste as being ABC. Here's the ugly version you can just copy straight: X:1 T:Waiting for the Federals T:Seneca Square Dance M:C| L:1/8 Q:1/2=112 K:G B4 B2AB|d2B2 BAG2|B4 d3B |ABAG E2D2 | B4 B2AB|d2B2 BAG2|ABAG E2F2|G4- G2z2:| g4 gage|d2B2 BAG2|g4 gfga|be2d e2f2 | gaba g3e |dg2d BAG2|ABAG E2F2|G4- G2z2:| |