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06 May 02 - 05:57 PM (#705505) Subject: victoria plums From: Mr Happy yesterday after waiting a couple of years, i had to cut down the plum tree in my garden. up until a few years ago, it'd been the apple of my eye! anyway, the last two seasons, no sign of life - obviously tree dead i'd waited a while in case it might've sprung back into action what's prompted me to write here is from seeing some other threads describing shop plums as hard & tasteless- much like my experience of these the fruit of my late tree were superb- soft & juicy 'n flavoursome
i need to plant another - where from uk? any answers |
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07 May 02 - 04:48 AM (#705766) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: IanC Any reputable garden centre. Where are you? |
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07 May 02 - 05:11 AM (#705772) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: Nigel Parsons Check with the Queen, she's a plumb lover. Hence the line "Send her Victorias" in the anthem! |
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07 May 02 - 06:17 AM (#705793) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: GUEST,An Pluiméir Ceolmhar Didn't realise how punningly appropriate my nickname would be to this thread until I started typing it! Plum wood is coming back into favour among some uilleann pipe makers who are diversifying from African blackwood and ebony. If you haven't already chopped the old one into firewood, and if it hasn't rotted while still standing perhaps there's some instrumentmaker within striking distance of you who would like to get his hands on the timber. Let's see if my blue-clicky-literacy of last week was just a flash in the pan: You can find a page of links to pipemakers on the NaPíobairí Uilleann website.
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07 May 02 - 06:32 AM (#705804) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: McGrath of Harlow Agreed, Victoria Plums are what plums are supposed to be like, and quite put you off all other varieties.
We planted one only a few weeks ago in our garden, and I bought it from a small local garden centre. I don't think you'll find it too hard digging one up. (Well, with "apple of your eye" puns like that are in order.)
The handy thing is they are self-fertilising, so you only need one they say.
But are you sure your plum true is dead? Just because you cut it down needn't mean the end, if the roots are healthy. (I always think that is a very encouraging metaphor for a lot of things. And then I think of nettles and it gets discouraging.) |
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07 May 02 - 06:49 AM (#705811) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: Hrothgar It's too bad you didn't have a pear of them. |
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07 May 02 - 08:48 AM (#705855) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: GUEST Mc Grath of Harlow "But are you sure your plum tree is dead?" What, you think it might be "pining for the fjords"? It has joined the choir invisible, it has gone to meet its maker, it has rolled up the final curtain, it is a late plum tree! Shame though, the Victoria plum has beautiful foliage.... :o) |
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07 May 02 - 08:49 AM (#705856) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: GUEST,Crazy Eddie That Python thingy was me! BTW |
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07 May 02 - 09:50 AM (#705894) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: McGrath of Harlow Yeaj but parrots don't have roots, so you it's a bit easier knowing they've gone to glory. Trees tend to have this Mary Ellen Carter attitude, and rise again likely as not. |
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07 May 02 - 03:43 PM (#706138) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: Herga Kitty Victoria Plums is also the title of a show and CD put together by Sheila Steafel, who lovingly researched Victorian music hall songs. The CD has 25 songs - a miscellany of mirth and misfortune,peculiarly poignant songs of pain and pleasure. One song even includes the line "And the parrot died of grief a week ago". Kitty |
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08 May 02 - 04:07 AM (#706534) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: Mr Happy another query the plum tree in question was on a rootstock when we first bought it i don't know what sort of rootstock anyway, i've left about a metre of the four main trunks + roots still intact because there's one green branch with leaves growing out from the lower part- i suspect that it's coming from the rootstock- but i hope it's a new plum growth any advice out there? |
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08 May 02 - 04:18 AM (#706541) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: GUEST,Crazy Eddie Well, it may have been just restin' after all! (embarrassed rictus-like grin in McGrath's direction)
Hapiness, all you can do is wait until you can definitely identify the branch as being one or the other. You may be able to do so by the leaves. If not, you'll have to wait & see if it brings forth plum blossom. |
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11 May 02 - 01:01 PM (#708910) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: Mr Happy sequel to dead plumtree saga 'er indoors has requested that now there is a vacant area available in the garden that i should move our small cherry tree into this space. the cherry produces a goodly crop each season, and has just ended blossoming and tiny fruits can be seen at the base of the old flowers. i have a question for any expert arboriculturalists out there in mudcatland- when's the best time to move a tree so as not to damage it? |
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11 May 02 - 01:23 PM (#708931) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: McGrath of Harlow If it's a big solid root ball, grown in a pot for example, like the ones you get in garden centres, any time of year can be OK. But for a tree growing in the ground the move is best done in the winter season, when the tree is dormant.
I don't know hw that works in places where they don't really have winters. |
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11 May 02 - 03:06 PM (#708997) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: gnomad If the tree was grafted and your new growth is from below the graft the one thing you can be sure is that it won't be a Victoria (wouldnt need to graft to same root stock) so you may be in for a surprise. I've a feeling they sometimes graft onto damson rootstocks. There are some other self-fertile plums if you are looking to replace, but do check with a reputable supplier about a suitable rootstock as plums can get quite big, and the choice of stock determines how big it gets. Best of luck, I can almost taste the results. |
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12 May 02 - 09:07 AM (#709423) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: Mr Happy An Pluimer Ceolmhar i,ve still got the four main plumtree trunks, if you know any makers of the irish plumbing kit... :) near me, they can have them with pleasure i'm in cheshire uk is your irish name connected with plums? to everyone else who's given advice about the cherry, ta very much and to gonad :) i liked your news that my roots may be transformed into damsons!
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21 Aug 02 - 10:17 AM (#769080) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: Mr Happy more news about plum wood! i hope all those out there sensitive to loud noises will forgive me- as no instrument makers took up my offer of the plum trunks, i gave them to my pal wiggy. he's made bodhran beaters from the wood + some very nicely turned little vases with lids. if there's any 'real' inst. makers out there within striking distance of west cheshire/wirral uk- there's still some wood left if you want it. |
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31 Jul 07 - 09:51 AM (#2115481) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: Mr Happy Another instalment of the long running plum tree saga! With all the heavy & frequent rainstorms this year, the foliage in the garden's been rampant, along with some luxuriant growth from the bottom of the old plum stump. It blossomed around April/May, then began to form tiny green fruits. Aha! I thought, perhaps some damsons will come. However, the fruits have gone well past the usual damson size & are looking decidedly PLUM shaped! Plums usually ripen round end August onwards, so I'm looking forward in anticipation to, perhaps, a fresh crop of Victorias!! |
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31 Jul 07 - 09:55 AM (#2115485) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: Liz the Squeak So good to year your plums have grown back. I was walking with my bestest friend on Sunday and found a small stand of wild damsons... Still rather firm and limey to the taste, but perfect for ripening off and putting in vodka. If only we'd had a bigger bag with us, there would have been enough for me too... LTS |
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31 Jul 07 - 10:03 AM (#2115492) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: Mr Happy Absolutely Liz! I've done Damson Gin & Vodka most Xmases, also its the best cough medicine [any excuse!] |
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31 Jul 07 - 10:30 AM (#2115520) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: GUEST,sparticus Mr Happy Let us know when your plums are ready to drop. |
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31 Jul 07 - 11:48 AM (#2115603) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: Mr Happy Hokey-Cokey!! |
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31 Jul 07 - 12:22 PM (#2115655) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: Anne Lister If you have any to spare, I'm making damson gin again this year, plus a fresh batch of jam. Just need the damsons! Anne |
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31 Jul 07 - 12:24 PM (#2115658) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: Travelling Audience Our little victoria plum tree is that ladened with those delicious plums three branches have snapped with the strain! Can't wait till they ripen. |
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31 Jul 07 - 05:00 PM (#2115931) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: Herga Kitty Look, I attempted a post about music in 2002, but why is this thread now above the BS line? Kitty
-Joe Offer, putting it below the line- |
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31 Jul 07 - 05:04 PM (#2115937) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: John MacKenzie Scum rises to the top Kitty? G ¦¬] |
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06 Aug 07 - 08:07 AM (#2120229) Subject: RE: victoria plums From: Mr Happy Plums are starting to ripen already! Mrs H picked some yesterday - they are 'Victorias' & so delicious & juicy!! |