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Name That Pub (Bar)

17 May 02 - 09:21 PM (#712648)
Subject: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: richlmo

The thread about Favorite Town names was fun. How about the favorite name for a Pub/Bar? It would be hard to start naming Pubs/Bars without thinking of resturants, so let's make this a two part question.


17 May 02 - 09:23 PM (#712650)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: richlmo

Wasn't a question , I know.


18 May 02 - 03:55 AM (#712770)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Liz the Squeak

The trouble with that is, there are so many chains now with 'amusing' names - the Slug and Lettuce chain, whose premises include the 'Cauliflower and catterpillar' all play on the vegetable/salad + undesirable invertebrae/larvae/insect theme. Then there is the Firkin chain, where there was originally only one that didn't have an alliterative label (the Goose and Firkin), making for some quite desperate names like 'Flounder and Firkin', Friar and Firkin', Phoenix and Firkin (or should that one have been Phoenix and Phirkin?), or 'Flintlock and Firkin'.

Having said that, I rather like the fact that there were two pubs in London called 'I am the only Running Footman'... And I like the imagery of 'the Green Man and French Horn' - though why a French Horn I really don't know....

There was an author of crime novels, whose name totally escapes me, who wrote a whole series of whodunnits with real pub names as the titles. Hence, there is a book 'I am the only Running Footman', 'The Old House at Home', something about a maul and a shoulderblade and my favourite 'The horse you rode in on' which I was given to understand was a bar in Baltimore, USA.

Wish I could remember what that one about the shoulderblade is.... I've even been in the damn pub!

LTS


18 May 02 - 04:31 AM (#712785)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Morticia

I know of a "Chocolate Cat" just outside Devizes but my favourite has always been "The Frog and Nightgown."


18 May 02 - 04:38 AM (#712789)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Bert

"The Bush, Blackbird and Thrush", in East Peckham, Kent

And "The Rorty Crankle" also in Kent.

One of my personal favourites though was "The Princess Alice" in Forest Gate. It was just a dirty great hole in the ground the whole time I lived there. It had been bombed during the war but busses still stopped at "The Princess Alice"


18 May 02 - 04:40 AM (#712791)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Gareth

Mort - The Frog and Nightgown was invented by that great british comic Tony Hancock !

Commic names are all very well but I think there is more in historical names, and finding out why.

For that I give you the "Blazing Donkey" at Margate (Kent), or the "Flying Machine" at Birdlip (Glous'), or even better the "Good Intent" at Gillingham (Kent).

Incidently the "Long Reach" at Whitstable (Kent) was built on the site of the Town Gallows/Gibbet. - But I don't think that apt name was what the Brewery management intended.

Gareth


18 May 02 - 05:34 AM (#712801)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Brakn

There used to be a pub in Altrincham called the Rose and Shamrock. It was knocked down in the 50s. In Birkenhead there is a pub of the same name.


18 May 02 - 05:54 AM (#712808)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: cetmst

Liz, the crime novelist is Martha Grimes, an American who lives in Maryland and writes a series of mysteries with a large permanent cast. Titles which she says are authentic pub names include The Man With a Load of Mischief, The Old Fox Deceived, The Anodyne Necklace, The Dirty Duck, Jerusalem Inn, Help the Poor Struggler, The Deer Leap, I Am the Only Running Footman, The Five Bells and Bladebone, The Old Silent, The Old Contemptibles, The End of the Pier, The Horse You Came In On (the Baltimore one), Rainbow's End (?American), Hotel Paradise (?New Mexico), The Case Has Altered, The Stargazey, Biting the Moon (?) , The Lamora Wink. My favorite which she has not yet written about is The Silent Woman with the logo of a headless maiden.


18 May 02 - 05:59 AM (#712810)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: gnu

There's pub in the basement of a gas station/convenience store near me called Rock Bottom.


18 May 02 - 06:26 AM (#712818)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Snuffy

Isn't it the Air Balloon at Birdlip, Gareth? And nearer to home, is the Cow and Snuffers still there (Llandaff? Radyr?)

WassaiL! V


18 May 02 - 06:48 AM (#712824)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: lady penelope

The First In Last Out in Hastings. The Old Cheshire Cheese in Fleet Street ( London ), the The Punch ( also in Fleet street, as in Punch and Judy ). I don't know why this tickles me so much but there are many pubs in Britain called the Hope and Anchor. But there is a tiny pub near where I live called the Anchor and Hope.

There was a pub in Pendeen ( Cornwall ) called The Radjel which is apparently cornish for fox. It was where the really old locals drank and it would all go quiet when you walked in ( like in a western ) and eventually the barman would say something like "You'll be wanting the North Star Inn, it's just up the road a bit". And it would stay quiet till you left. Oooh!

The Saracen's Head in Glasgow. Nobody has yet told me why there should be a saracens head ( or the "Sarry Heed" in local parlance ) in Glasgow.

The House They Left Behind, literally the last of the old houses in the middle of new estates at Wapping ( London) hence the name. Also in Wapping The Prospect of Whitby, named after the ship that used to birth there ( the pub is on the river front ).

There used to be a pub called The Crooked Billet which they pulled down about 5-6 years ago. I still don't know what a crooked billet is ( bent bed?). Though the pub is mentioned in many local histories no one explains the name.

I do hate it when they change the name of old pubs, especially when they are local land marks. There was a pub in Camden called the Old Mother Red Cap, now it's called The End Of The World which is a land mark pub in south London. Also in Camden was the Black Castle. That's been changed about four times now. In Kentish town there was a row because they wanted to rename The Assembly Room, another land mark pub. They changed the Tally Ho to Hudsons when Open House ( a vile chain ) took it over, but a succesfull campaign once Open House sold it off, got the original name reinstated. The same with The Nags Head in Holloway. That was on the Bus time tables and they wanted to change it!

Cor, I'm in total rant mode today....

TTFN M'Lady P.


18 May 02 - 07:00 AM (#712830)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: GUEST,.gargoyle

I like The Coal Porter triple pun used by the jazz/folk pub/restaurant in the Portebella area of Dublin.


18 May 02 - 08:46 AM (#712851)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Morticia

There is still a Crooked Billet just outside Egham,Penny.


18 May 02 - 08:55 AM (#712853)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Skipjack K8

There are several philanthropic 'Live & Let Live' boozers, Stoke St Michael (now a restaurant) and Ipswich, to my knowledge.

Skipjack


18 May 02 - 09:07 AM (#712856)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Gareth

Snuffy - I think you are right, I shall have to check next time I'am dodging the tax on the bridge

Crooked Billet = Bent or curved piece of Wood.

Must check on the Cow etc.

Gareth


18 May 02 - 09:22 AM (#712864)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: GUEST

The Druids Arms in Brighton is a fav of mine...


18 May 02 - 09:32 AM (#712868)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: GUEST

There's one near us called 'The Red Lion'


18 May 02 - 11:04 AM (#712894)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Nigel Parsons

Yes, snuffy, The Air Baloon is still there: as is the Cow & Snuffers in Llandaff North
My local "Firkin" pub is renamed from "The Queen's Vaults" (downstairs of what was "The Queen's Hotel") and is now the "Fly Half and Firkin" aptly named (from the rugby position) as it is directly opposite the Millennium Stadium.
One pub name mentioned above "The Case Has Altered" was IIRC a corruption of La Casa Salter??.
And although "The Silent Woman" in Oxfordshire is no more, one can still be found in Huddersfield.
One interesting point is where "Pub Signs" hang out from the pub walls, allowing different depictions on either side.
It is not uncommon for pubs called "The Plough" to show an agricultural implement on one side, and the constellation (a.k.a. Ursa Major) on the other.
The Bulldog" in Oxford shows a canine on one side, and a City gent on the other.


18 May 02 - 12:09 PM (#712915)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Mr Red

The Virgin Tavern in Worcester
I thought this would have been a modern relaxation of the nether words but when I went looking for historical evidence there was a Virgin Tavern in the Victorian era - they obviously were not all as prudish as their PR would suggest. The building could be victorian but not earlier even if there were a pub before the current bricks & mortar.


18 May 02 - 01:03 PM (#712938)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Celtic Soul

There's a "Big Peckers" in Ocean City, Maryland (USA). They use a rooster with a big beak as their emblem. After seeing all the "Hooters" spread around the USA (using owls with huge breast-shaped eyes as their emblem), I suppose it only fair that the other side get some play (so to speak).

I wish USA pub names were on average as interesting as their British/European cousins...alas, they mostly seem to be body part jokes.


18 May 02 - 02:00 PM (#712965)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: allanwill

Ref. Brakn's post, there are anumber of pubs in Oz called The Rose, Shamrock and Thistle, although they are more commonly referred to as The Three Weeds.

Allan


18 May 02 - 02:02 PM (#712966)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Emma B

Sdaly missed - Tommy Ducks, Manchester. This was the Prince's Tavern when it opened in 1867 the name of the licensee being Thomas Duckworth. He asked for his name to be added to the sign but the sign-writer miscalculated the space and there was only room for one more letter after Duck. I don't know when the name was made official but it was a much loved watering hole for workers at lunchtime. I wonder what happened to all those knickers? There is a Headless Woman not far from here also known as the Quiet Woman for obvious reasons and the pubs called after the heraldic arms of the Stanley family i.e. The Eagle and Child are more colloquially known as the Bird and Bastard I could go on .............


18 May 02 - 02:08 PM (#712967)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: gnomad

Whitby boasts another First in Last out, also the delightfully named Bottom House.

Lincoln had (and may still have) The Struggler, a memory from the days of public hangings.

E.Yorkshire in general has a number of Crooked Billets, never struck me as unusual before, but I guess you dont question what you grew up with.


18 May 02 - 02:19 PM (#712972)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: 53

Beachwagon and Applebees.


18 May 02 - 02:22 PM (#712976)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: RolyH

One of the longest names must be 'The Caister Men Never Turn Back'in Caister on the Norfolk(UK)cost named after the Caister lifeboat men.


18 May 02 - 03:21 PM (#713009)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: GUEST,Bullfrog Jones (on the road)

A couple more corrupted names:The Goat and Compasses in Euston -- apparently from a phrase to appease the Temperance Movement (it's just down the road from the Temperance Hospital), 'God Encompasseth Us'. (Try saying that when you're pissed!) and, of course, The Elephant and Castle, from The Infanta of Castile.


18 May 02 - 03:44 PM (#713017)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: GUEST,Nick

A cliche but.... The Dew Drop Inn - crops up all over the US


18 May 02 - 04:27 PM (#713035)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Nigel Parsons

Guest Nick: is that as in "Do drop in" ?,
Or a pointer to the final lines of a scurrilous verse on kissing, : "The morning dew may kiss the grass,
And you, my friend, may kiss my ..."

Anyone remember the whole thing ?

Nigel


18 May 02 - 05:01 PM (#713049)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Bert

A billet is a log. It used to imply that the log will be cut into something useful, like a knee or brace for shipbuilding. Nowadays though it also means a log for the fire.

Specific engineering use also includes a chunk of raw steel from which a part will be machined.


18 May 02 - 05:19 PM (#713065)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Snuffy

The Bear and Billet/Bear and Ragged Staff was the heraldic symbol of the Earls of Warwick, and there are several pubs with these names.

Most Dirty Ducks were originally the Black Swan, but there is a long tradition of belittling the (lack of) skill of the sign-painters. The Romper is usually called after a badly drawn Lion.

In the 70s/80s in Bury St Edmunds the Rose & Crown was known locally as the Butterfly and Dartboard, because that's what the sign looked like from a distance.

WassaiL! V


18 May 02 - 07:17 PM (#713119)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Liz the Squeak

Oh bugger. So many pubs named by Lady P that I have frequented..... and I remember them all now, but I'm pished, so there we go....

I did once find a pub called St Peter's finger after @Peter ad vincular', the dedication of the church......

got pishedthere tooo..

LTS


19 May 02 - 06:52 AM (#713350)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Penny S.

There's a Bear and Ragged Staff in Crayford, Kent (why? - it's a long way from Warwick), which some joker decided to rename the Orange Kipper. Local outcry, and "what have you done with the sign?" which was a beautiful piece of wrought iron. "I don't know," says the manager, but I don't think we put it on the skip." More outcry. Result. No kipper. Sign back. Name back.

Not so with the Hobgoblins. The Pie and Kilderkin at Forest Hill. The George Canning at Brixton (in small print, though). Or the Geese. The Goose and Granite - once the Plough at East Dulwich, with roads named after it. The Goose on the Green - once the Horse and Harrow at Catford - still proclaims that on the plasterwork.

McDonald's now has the Yorkshire Grey - landmark pub in Eltham (Elt-um), but it still says the name in small print.

When they built the bypass in Dover, they did for a few good names. The cause is altered - something political, I believe, possibly Civil War. And the Five Alls.

Penny


19 May 02 - 08:26 AM (#713370)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Emma B

Unfortunately the 'history' of names is not as interesting as the imagination (you know radio has better pictures!) The Blazing Donkey is just another name for braying and the Good Intent was the name of a schooner used for smuggling off the Kent coast (There is also a Good Intent just outside Chester named after a local stagecoach) Is there still a Mother Redcaps in Dublin - a great pub where I got totally smashed on Christmas Eve. 'Old Mother Redcap according to her tale/Lived twenty and a hundred years by drinking good ale/ It was her meat, her drink, her medicine besides/And if she still had drunk ale, she never would have died. - What a role-model!


19 May 02 - 11:48 AM (#713462)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Mr Red

There is a "Pogue Mahone's" in Liverpool - when I told someone that they had a weekly session he was highly amused that they were allowed to call it that. Translation from the Gelic is apparently "Kiss my Arse"!


19 May 02 - 11:55 AM (#713467)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Shields Folk

There is a pub in Northumberland called The Carts Bog Inn but it is known locally as 'The Clarty Cart'


19 May 02 - 01:20 PM (#713542)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: 53

A Biker bar in Murrels Inlet S.C. call the Suck, Bang and Blow. What a nice name for a joint.


19 May 02 - 02:45 PM (#713603)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Liz the Squeak

There's a 'Quiet Woman' in Dorset, near Wareham too... And I was with the Mummers in 'The case has altered' only last Boxing Day.

Then there's the Widow's son in Poplar, famous for a whole heap of hot cross buns, or is it shillings and farthings?

The'Hung, drawn and quartered' in the old Christ's Hospital opposite Tower Hill, London, which I should imagine has interesting decor...

LTS


19 May 02 - 03:42 PM (#713629)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: lady penelope

The Ship down Wardour street (now no more ) used to have a fishing net attached to the ceiling with loads of hot cross buns in it. There were various stories as to why, but one of them was that a widow had left money to be used to put a bun in the net for each year her son didn't come back from the sea. ( I dunno why!)

Now I know what a crooked billet is and why we had a Mother red cap in Camden! Any day you learn something's not been entirely wasted.

TTFN M'Lady P.


19 May 02 - 06:03 PM (#713686)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Angie

The Broken Drum and the refurbished Mended Drum. angie xx


19 May 02 - 06:31 PM (#713689)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: GUEST,Gareth


19 May 02 - 06:33 PM (#713690)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: GUEST,Cookie less Gareth

Angie - Er? Aint the Broken Drun etc in Ankh-Morpork ? Or is you Ricewind in drag ???

Gareth


19 May 02 - 06:35 PM (#713692)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: GUEST,Bullfrog Jones (on the road)

There used to be a pub in Birmingham called The Man In The Moon---until 1969 when it became The Man ON The Moon.


19 May 02 - 06:47 PM (#713697)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Snuffy

Bullfrog, I presume you mean the one at West Heath. I've heard it was called the Man in the Moon because it was right on the edge of town:

Who the hell's going to come in here to drink?

The Man in the Moon?

Or was that the one at the very edge of Ipswich? (which also changed its name to Man ON the Moon, complete with N Armstrong on the sign).

WassaiL! V


19 May 02 - 07:28 PM (#713710)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: McGrath of Harlow

Crooked Billet - they used to hang one outside an inn to show it was a placed you could get a drink , the same way they stick the red and white sign outside the barber shop (symbolic of a bandaged arm from thye s=days they doubled as surgeons, since they had the razors and scissors handy.) Quite why, I haven't a clue, but it was widespread enough that you get a fair number of Crooked Billets in all sorts of places. One in Walthamstow which has given its name to a little area, not just a pub.

Oldest pub in existence is said to be the Trip to Jerusalem in Nottingham.

And maybe the fashion for jokey pub names for pubs in chains has peaked. There used to be a great pub in Epping near us called the George and Dragon, we used to have sessions there, and then it got gutted and reopened as the Forest and Firkin (or some Firkin name). But now it's been redesigned again, and it's gone back to being the George and Dragon. Still a horrible pub, but maybe in time it'll recover. At least now it's not so annoying as you walk past it to go somewhere else.


19 May 02 - 09:25 PM (#713734)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Bert

Hey! I didn't know that McGraw! That must date back some years.

We were taught at school that the pub name "The Bush" originated from the practice of putting a branch or shrub on the top of the highest point of a building while it was being built. A practice which you still see today in places. They didn't mention the double entendre though.
I had to wait 'till I was grown enough to learn that.


20 May 02 - 08:16 AM (#713811)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Scabby Douglas

Some Glasgow pubs for the pot:

Babbity Bowster (recent pub/old name : literally "a kiss at the bolster" after a dance, and related to a song)
I always had a weakness for "The Office" - so named so that you could phone home, and not lie.
There was a pub in Springburn years ago called "Baldy Bayne's"

Also from Springburn- pubs that were obviously named to help you remember where you were in case of extreme confusion through drink - "The Terminus Bar", and the "Boundary Bar".

Cheers

Steven


20 May 02 - 08:34 AM (#713823)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: The Walrus at work

I'm annoyed I got beaten to "The Goat and Compasses" (although I think the name predates the Temperance movement).
Pubs called "The Bull and Bush" often have their origins on inn sites which date back to Henry VIII, "Bull and Bush" being a corruption of "Boulogne Bouche", commemorating Henry's acquisition of the town and harbour(It paid to keep on the right side of Hal).

Walrus


20 May 02 - 09:01 AM (#713832)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: GUEST

Snuffy -- it was the one in West Heath I was thinking of.


20 May 02 - 09:13 AM (#713835)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: McGrath of Harlow

I suspect the Boulogne Bouche is a canard.

I wonder if hanging out the Billet meant you could just get a drink, and a Bush meant they had additional faciities in line with bert's misinhgs?

It occurs to me that the idea of hanging out a bush as a sign has a modern day equivalent in Amsterdam, where a bit of shrubbery in the window of a coffee bar is an indication that it's a joint joint. (And they have some pretty weird and wonderful names as well - very like pub names, when you come down to it. "The Bulldog" could be either...)


20 May 02 - 09:42 AM (#713844)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: catspaw49

Probably about 15 years ago, it became really popular to name bars with a name that was an "answer" to your wife's question, "Where were you?" without it sounding like a bar. All of these existed in central Ohio at one point or another:

WIFE: Where were you?
MAN: I stopped by The Library.
WIFE: You've been there all this time?
MAN: Naw, I went to Somewhere Else.
WIFE: Somewhere else? Where somewhere else?
MAN: Oh I was just Down The Road for awhile.
WIFE: Where down the road?
.....and here's my favorite.....
MAN: No Place In Particular.

Spaw


20 May 02 - 09:57 AM (#713851)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: GUEST,MC Fat

Talking about Glasgow pubs how could you forget Doog 'The Muscular Arms' in Exchange Square complete with 10ft high Popeye cartoons on the ootside and a life size dummy who used to sit at the end of the bar with his hands on his heid looking fair scunnert !! Then there's the pub in Coatbridge or Airdrie (whichever is the Orange area) where's there's a pub known as 'Lucky C*nt Murphy's' so named after the fact that Murphy ( a Catholic) announced he was marrying the daughter of a local Orange (Protestant) pub owner, the pub owner promptly had a heart attack and died at the shock of this leaving everything, including the pub in his will to his only daughter so the pub became owned by 'Lucky C*nt Murphy'


20 May 02 - 11:06 AM (#713893)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Scabby Douglas

Hangs head in shame: forgot about the Muscular Arms....


20 May 02 - 11:24 AM (#713904)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: GUEST,Declan

There's a pub in Dubin called The Long Hall which I always thought was a good one.

One outside Dundalk called the "Blue Anchor" which has to be pronounced carefully, particularly in the local accent.

There's one in Howth outside Dublin called the Cock Tavern, which was previously called The Cock Inn, which gave rise to some "How far is the ..." jokes.

Also a pub in Co Kilkenny near some caves called the Cave Tavern - I suppose they thought it would be tempting fate to call it an Inn.


20 May 02 - 11:27 AM (#713905)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Pied Piper

I understand ther was a Pub in Wigan called "Cunt and Trumpet". Cunt bieng an old English word for a sheeth (as in knife), hence its sexual associations.PP


20 May 02 - 11:37 AM (#713916)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Mr Happy

there's a hostelry in a village near delamere, cheshire [maybe in norley] with an unusual name

i heard a story about a traveller looking for it and asked a local 'excuse me, where's the tigers head?'

quick as a flash the answer came back,

'four foot from his tail!'


20 May 02 - 11:48 AM (#713920)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Scabby Douglas

I remembered another one, in Lennoxtown, which the locals call "Campsie": "The Drookit Dug"

Drookit = Scots for "Drenched, Soaking" Dug = dog

Cheers

Steven


20 May 02 - 01:39 PM (#713991)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Emma B

Hello Happiness, Nearly bought the house in Norley across the road from the Tigers Head, fortunately it was too small to fit our four poster! otherwise we would have to renamed it 'The Tail' I lived for five years in the village before someone actually stopped to ask me "Where's the Tigers Head?" then ...I just couldn't do it! We also have a 'local' called The Hazel Pear, I've never seen that anywhere else,


20 May 02 - 02:13 PM (#714018)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Mr Red

Inn Beverly there is a pub in the square called the Punch or the Punchbowl - at least that was it's official name but they had new fangled doors in the 50's with a big sind to help the terminally kaylied. It said "PUSH" and that is what the pub became! No doubt the Hull fraternity can confirm and tell us it has been taken over and been given an oh-so-clever name like the "Nondescript and Firkin" or the "Bland and Who Cares?"


20 May 02 - 10:20 PM (#714287)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Mr Happy

wot's a sind? is it an omen?


21 May 02 - 06:39 AM (#714427)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: GUEST,MC Fat

Bill Tidy ( British Cartoonist) had a cartoon strip called the Cloggies and I recall some great pub names there too like... The Kings Thighs, The Pig and Ball Bearing and my fave The Fox and Pervert.


21 May 02 - 07:20 AM (#714447)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Nigel Parsons

Bill Tidy has continued his pub cartoons in the CAMRA (Campaign for Real Ale) magazine, with the character "Kegbuster"


21 May 02 - 07:36 AM (#714461)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Nigel Parsons

For Bill Tidy see here


21 May 02 - 07:43 AM (#714469)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull

Mr Red-I can confirm the Push in Beverley is still the Push.


21 May 02 - 08:48 AM (#714515)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: HuwG

The "Corner Cupboard" in Glossop; stands on a corner and is not renowned for being spacious. They do have an excellent C+W band, "Dark Horses" there on Thursday nights.

If I am going to plug pubs in Glossop, then the place to go for music is "The Globe", usually referred to as "The Globule", recently taken over by Ron Brookes and Diane Virgo, who are booking various local and not-so-local bands and performers every weekend. Recent acts have included bAd Dog, Kyla Brox and Steve Washington, with backing from brothers Sam Lees and Joe Lees.

Many pubs in Glossop have names which refer to various titles of the Howard family e.g. "The Norfolk Arms". At one time there were two named "The Surrey Arms". For convenience, they were referred to as "The Little Surrey" and "The Big Surrey", or just "The Big 'S'"


21 May 02 - 02:20 PM (#714739)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Mr Red

The Man on the Moon, I thought it was actually over the city boundary. Never went in, it was certainly not "out of this world" - it had "no atmosphere"!
Looked clean and neat enough from the outside - in the 70's though.
Surprised no one did the joke about arson - set alight to the sattelite?
I'll get my coat.......


21 May 02 - 03:02 PM (#714799)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: GUEST,Warsaw Ed

The "Broken Jug" in Ballina,County Mayo Ireland


21 May 02 - 03:17 PM (#714809)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Les from Hull

Quite a few of the Hull pubs had alternative names. We have a Crown which is always called Red Hell, and another which is usually Milehouse. The Anchor was always 'Blue Heaven'. Recently there has been a trend to make these the real names of the pubs, 'Green Bricks' and 'Rayners' have been so renamed in recent years. I don't like 'em changing the names of pubs, but I particularly don't like 'em changing the offical name to the unofficial name.


21 May 02 - 03:33 PM (#714821)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: NightWing

Well, the States are not without a few good names. Here in Colorado we have the Flying Dog Brewery (conjures up some interesting images), Heavenly Daze Brewery (after an evening there, you're in one), Left Hand Brewery (a local native American leader's name was "Niwot" which means "left hand"; a number of places are named for him); Naked Aspen Brewing Company (*gasp* Naked TREES!? What IS the world coming to), the Smiling Moose Bar & Grill (don't ask me), Baked in Telluride (the last time I was in Telluride, I got baked), and the Giggling Grizzly (again, don't ask me).

BB,
NightWing


21 May 02 - 03:35 PM (#714822)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: NightWing

Oh, and there's a brewery in Fort Collins called "Doggie Style" *EG*

BB,
NightWing


22 May 02 - 03:08 PM (#715527)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: HuwG

... and of course, that favourite British brew, the "Dog's Bollocks".

The only way to get over the embarrassment of having to bellow "Two Dog's Bollocks, please!" over a crowd of people hanging round a busy bar, is to then ask them, "Have you tried the food here?"

Incidentally, a pub name I remember from Tinsley, near Sheffield (UK), the "Pike and Heron". Local legend had it that it was so named in honour of someone's diastrous attempt to start a fish hatchery nearby.


22 May 02 - 05:04 PM (#715618)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: TheBigPinkLad

'Billet' may be derived from its military meaning of a place where soldiers were housed -- a destination. Hence a Crooked Billet was a place where soldiers were not supposed to be.

Most names supposedly derived from the corruption of aritocratic names and Latinesque sayings are probably bollox. Here's a great site on etymology -- but be warned, if you're anything like me you'll be lost in there for ages ... click


23 May 02 - 08:26 AM (#716004)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: Mr Happy

well there's the bear & billet in chester, supposed to be the oldest pub in the city.

i don't think the etymological root of billet is soldiers quarters but the pole or stake that the animal was tethered to


23 May 02 - 11:39 AM (#716135)
Subject: RE: Name That Pub (Bar)
From: p.j.

Let's not forget Oakland's own "First and Last Chance", a favorite hangout of Jack London, built in 1880 from the timbers of a whaling ship. It's a tiny dive complete with tilting floor courtesy of the 1906 San Francisco earthquake...

pj