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Oxymorons in lyrics

12 Jun 02 - 02:56 PM (#728551)
Subject: Oxymorons in lyrics
From: Mrrzy

..."for I knew that topless lady / Had something up her sleeve..."

Other good ones?


12 Jun 02 - 03:01 PM (#728552)
Subject: RE: Oxymorons in lyrics
From: GUEST

An obvious one:

"I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now"


12 Jun 02 - 03:01 PM (#728555)
Subject: RE: Oxymorons in lyrics
From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy

it seems more a nonsense lyric, like Oh, Susanna, than an oxymoron, and there was another long thread about such, somewhere, try 'nonsense'


12 Jun 02 - 04:01 PM (#728590)
Subject: RE: Oxymorons in lyrics
From: Mrrzy

Well, I think it's oxymoronic as it is the subset of nonsense that is nonsensical by virtue of a contained contradiction. Other nonsense would not be oxymoronic, but that example was. I really am fishing for oxymorons, not other forms of nonsense...


12 Jun 02 - 04:05 PM (#728596)
Subject: RE: Oxymorons in lyrics
From: John MacKenzie

Folk Music ?? ;-)


12 Jun 02 - 04:07 PM (#728599)
Subject: RE: Oxymorons in lyrics
From: GUEST

Not contained in a couplet, but in The Beatles song 'Penny Lane' it's raining all the time under "blue suburban skies"

Don't know if that's what you mean?


12 Jun 02 - 04:09 PM (#728603)
Subject: RE: Oxymorons in lyrics
From: mousethief

I don't know if it qualifies, but I like that line from the Larry Norman song, "Reader's Digest":

The Beatles said 'all you need is love'
And then they broke up!

Alex


12 Jun 02 - 04:15 PM (#728608)
Subject: RE: Oxymorons in lyrics
From: GUEST,Jim

In a (probably futile) attempt to stop this thread becoming overcome by junk, here is the OED definition of an oxymoron:

"A rhetorical figure of speech in which markedly contradictory terms appear in conjunction so as to emphasize the statement"

Posts one and two qualify - the rest don't.

I thought it was a good thread idea, Mrrzy

Jim


12 Jun 02 - 04:20 PM (#728611)
Subject: RE: Oxymorons in lyrics
From: Clinton Hammond

Read the lyrics at the johnprineshrine.com... he uses them all the time...

;-)


12 Jun 02 - 04:22 PM (#728616)
Subject: RE: Oxymorons in lyrics
From: Pseudolus

Well, it was before you called all but two of the posts junk! *BG*

Frank


12 Jun 02 - 04:24 PM (#728623)
Subject: RE: Oxymorons in lyrics
From: GUEST,Bill Kennedy

so far NO post here is an 'oxymoron', by the definition given, but I don't want to spoil anyone's fun. Saying the 'topless lady had something up her sleeve' might be irony, and is humerous, but not an oxymoron. Likewise, younger/older, ironic, not oxymoronic.


12 Jun 02 - 04:28 PM (#728627)
Subject: RE: Oxymorons in lyrics
From: mousethief

I fail to see what the topless lady's sleeve has to do with the elbow.

Alex


12 Jun 02 - 04:41 PM (#728639)
Subject: RE: Oxymorons in lyrics
From: Noreen

Previous thread: Oxymorons


12 Jun 02 - 08:39 PM (#728820)
Subject: RE: Oxymorons in lyrics
From: GUEST,ozmacca

If an oxymoron is defined as..... "A rhetorical figure of speech in which markedly contradictory terms appear in conjunction so as to emphasize the statement".... as defined by GUEST Jim, then does a double negative qualify as an oxymoron?

For example, any one of the innumerable songs with the equivalent of "I ain't got no....." whatever the hell comes next.


12 Jun 02 - 09:51 PM (#728873)
Subject: RE: Oxymorons in lyrics
From: Little Hawk

How about the line in that pathetic Rod Stewart song "Tonight's The Night", where he advises his "virgin child" to "let her inhibitions run wild"...

What an idiot...

Dylan's done a few odd reversals, like:

"He just smoked my eyelids, and punched my cigarette"

"Don't put your horse in front of your cart"

But unlike Rod, he had a purpose in saying it that way, and it worked.

- LH


13 Jun 02 - 07:47 AM (#729069)
Subject: RE: Oxymorons in lyrics
From: GUEST,Foe

From English ballads:

"false true lover"


13 Jun 02 - 10:27 AM (#729154)
Subject: RE: Oxymorons in lyrics
From: Mrrzy

I have to say that topless and having sleeves do contradict each other. That is a John Prine one. Yes, false true lover is a good one.


13 Jun 02 - 11:38 AM (#729201)
Subject: RE: Oxymorons in lyrics
From: Mrrzy

Also, before I get into trouble, I *did* search for a thread on oxymorons first, but none came up.


13 Jun 02 - 11:42 AM (#729204)
Subject: RE: Oxymorons in lyrics
From: GUEST,JTT

Oxymorons are internally contradictory statements:

Heinz Foods Independent Newspaper Group Army Intelligence

That kind of thing.