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26 Jul 02 - 08:33 AM (#754877) Subject: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git From: GUEST,greg stephens An article in the Guardian claims the Monkees once made a record called "Randy Scouse Git", which was issued in England under the name "Alternate Title". Anybody add anything to this story? Is it true, for example?Lyrics would be welcome, also info as to whether those lovely boys knew the meaning of any or all of the words. |
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26 Jul 02 - 09:01 AM (#754890) Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git From: Dave the Gnome There you go, Greg - Randy Scouse Git (Alternate Title) Looking at the lyrics and putting 2 and 2 together I guess the 4 kings of EMI were the Beatles? His girlfriend being lost to those Randy Scouse Gits?? If Dolenz did not know the phrase originaly Davy Jones certainly would have, being a Manchester lad through and through. He may well have used the phrase before to describe our illustrious neighbours;-) Bit of a puzzle why they had to use the Alternate title though as Alf Garnett was describing his son-in-law (Now our prime-ministers father-in-law!) as a scouse git for years on the BBC! Cheers Dave the Gnome |
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26 Jul 02 - 09:35 AM (#754910) Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git From: Dave the Gnome And just found this on the Monkees FAQ - 24. Micky's song Randy Scouse Git had to be released in England as Alternate Title, why? Well while Micky was in England he heard those words and made them the title of his song. Unfortunately he did not realize that in England this is considered to be an insult. To be more precise: "randy" means horny "scouse" is a derogatory way of referring to a working-class Liverpudlian "git" is an idiot. When asked to provide an alternate title for the song in England he did just that. Dunno if I believe this answer though. If Micky did hear it in England it could well have been on 'To death do us part' in which case no-one would have objected to the title at the beeb! Perhaps it was Alternate title because 'Randy Scouse Git' had no significance at all in the states? What title was actualy used in the States, brother catters? Cheers DtG (A closet Monkees fan) |
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26 Jul 02 - 09:45 AM (#754913) Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git From: greg stephens "Idiot" is a bit soft for git. Bastard, in both senses of the word is more accurate I would have thought. |
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26 Jul 02 - 11:02 AM (#754960) Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git From: Paddy Plastique The great Alf preceded 'Scouse' with 'lazy' rather than 'randy', as I remember Dave, didn't he ?? Not much of a puzzle about the re-naming - Britain seems to have been an even more prudish place in the 60s - they even chopped 2 nights off 'Seven Drunken Nights' for Jasus sake !!! |
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26 Jul 02 - 11:25 AM (#754974) Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git From: English Jon Well, I reckon "4 nights drunk" is actually three verses shorter. It's certainly a lot faster, which is a big plus as it means you don't have to listen to it for as long. "manky" appears to be current adjective of choice when describing mickey mousers. Cheers, Jon |
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26 Jul 02 - 12:17 PM (#755007) Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git From: Dave the Gnome Manky Mickey Mousers!!! How dare you sirrah! Manky is and always has been the adjective for things Mancunian. I suspect by using the term Mickey Mousers for Scousers you are nothing but a Cockney in exile (Or not as the case may be...) Take the vile insult back at once or be prepared to run the gauntlet of both Manky and Scouse scorn. And have your car stolen and burned out to boot! There is only ne thing a Manc can't stand more than a Scouse. A bloody southener;-) (Ie anything south of the Manchester Ship Canal) Yours Angry from Manchester |
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26 Jul 02 - 02:31 PM (#755065) Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git From: GUEST DtG Are you fair dinkum - Anthony Booth is Mrs Blair's daddy? Who woulda' thunk it! Allan |
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26 Jul 02 - 03:13 PM (#755088) Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git From: Dave the Gnome Yip Guest - Cherie Blair nee Booth is indeed the daughter of the famous Scouse Git! Alf must be having palpitations to think he is related to the Labour leader. At least it's not that 'arald bloody Wilson... Cheers DtG |
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26 Jul 02 - 03:58 PM (#755110) Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git From: wysiwyg greg, using BS in the title means that people using the BS filter will not see your thread. (for next time, OK?) ~Susan |
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26 Jul 02 - 05:33 PM (#755161) Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git From: The Walrus Dear "Angry from Manchester",
I think that you will find that "manky" as a derogatory adjective is derived from the French "manque" (effectively "gone wrong" - of perhaps a little stronger[1]). Regards Soft Southern Ba*d [1] I can't check that, I seem to have lost my French dictionary |
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26 Jul 02 - 05:56 PM (#755168) Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git From: Catherine Jayne Manky can also be used instead of minging!! |
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26 Jul 02 - 07:12 PM (#755201) Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git From: Dave the Gnome French? F***ing French?? Even worse than Scouse or Cockney! You have probably lost your French Dick and Harry where it should be. Up your soft southern **** No offense intended of course;-) Angry from Manquechester |
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26 Jul 02 - 07:27 PM (#755210) Subject: RE: Not BS: Randy Scouse Git From: Gareth Hmmm ! Well first of all Harold Wilson represented a Liverpool Parlimentary seat for over 35 years. Second. "What do you call a Scouser wearing a suit ?" Answer "The defendant !" Gareth (who spent too many years wandering around the docks at Liverpool, Birkenhead and all points nearbye searching for missing cargo and counting damages to have any illusions. Mind you the same applies to Thiefrow and Tilbury !!!" |