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30 Aug 02 - 03:21 PM (#774414) Subject: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: GUEST,Pollyanna Hello, is anyone (else!) interested in Nordic/Scandinavian traditional music? I am building a website about it, info about artists, recordings, concerts etc, and am really eager to find out if anyone is going to want to visit it! It's a big passion of mine, but I only know about 2 other people who share this interest and would love to hear from anyone else who does! (The site is www.nordicmusic.co.uk) Polly |
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30 Aug 02 - 04:36 PM (#774460) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: katlaughing Hi, Polly. I don't know much about it, but when I have had the good fortune to hear some, I've really enjoyed it. I would be interested and I am sure there are others here who might be, too. Thanks for letting us know, kat (my mom used to call me "Katrinka" her "little Norwegian" because I was born in North Dakota, where there was a large Scandinavian population.*bg*) |
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30 Aug 02 - 04:45 PM (#774468) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: Malcolm Douglas Looks interesting; but you should test the site in a couple of browsers other than IE. A lot of people use Netscape, Opera and so on; and the text block on your main page is invisible for them. |
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30 Aug 02 - 04:53 PM (#774472) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: M.Ted I am definitely interested--my old folkdance band morphed into a Scandinvian dance band--we had two good "spielpersons" who knew a raft of Hambos, pols, and waltzes, and after a while, most of our bookings (and the best paying ones) were for Scandinavian stuff(this success actually broke up the band, since some of our players preferred to play non-scandian music)--Anyway, I am always on the lookout for good recordings of the kind of stuff that we used to play-- |
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30 Aug 02 - 11:38 PM (#774650) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca I've never heard of it. I'm sure there is. Would it include the Kalevala? |
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31 Aug 02 - 10:55 AM (#774812) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: Peg love it love love love it!!! There is a thread from a while back with "Mostly Finnish" in the title in which we discuss a lot of our favorite Scandinavian bands. I love Garmarna and they are playing Nordic Roots this year; I want to see if my friend who booked them in Boston last year could get them back again..
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31 Aug 02 - 01:11 PM (#774861) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: The Pooka Pollyanna, I'm ignorant of it but would be interested to learn. Sounds cool. Best of luck. / Powerful Katrinkalaughing, hi. O so it's ND izzit? Isn't that in Manitoba? :) -Hugh Manatee |
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31 Aug 02 - 02:04 PM (#774881) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: GUEST,Polly Thanks loads to everyone for replying! I'm not alone then! Kat, I think when you say 'when you've had the good fortune to hear some' you hit the nail on the head - it's a real problem that there are not many ways to hear about Nordic music. The NorthSide & Rootsworld websites and some sites in Scandinavia have stuff you cn listen to online but not many other places. In the UK there is only 1 major radio programme which ever plays any, and no UK-based websites atall that I know of. So it's hard for people to discover! But becoming easier all the time as the interest grows. Malcolm, thanks for the tip about browsers, I have to admit that it's laziness that has stopped me doing browser tests...and time. I work full time and so can only do the site at the weekends so have been concentrating on getting stuff up there. The site isn't showing up on search engines yet so hopefully I will get that sorted before people start visiting. I am quite new to web building too so need to research the compatibility problems. M.Ted, hello, did you used to get people dancing at your gigs? Some of it's pretty lively isn't it? Is it quite gard to find recordings of Nordic stuff in the USA? I have only ever been able to buy stuff online, shops are rubbish for stocking niche stuff now, they're so mainstream. Hi George, I'm not sure about the Kalavala - sounds Finnish though! The best place to hear stuff is the NorthSide website www.noside.com - you can download whole tracks or just listen to real audio samples. Peg - I've never seen Garmarna live - have you seen them do their Hildegard von Bingen stuff? I've seen some videos too - quite wierd! Have you been to www.tvfolk.net? You can watch loads of Nordic videos there, including quite a few Garmarna, I;m linking to them from my site. On my site there is also an interview with them, from a few years ago now though. I will check out the Finnish thread you mentioned. Hugh, thanks for replying, nice to hear people are interested to hear new stuff. It's easy to get despondent and think everyone is only interested in Britney Spears etc! It was really nce to hear from everyone! Polly |
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31 Aug 02 - 02:32 PM (#774890) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca The Kalevala is the epic saga from the early settlers now known from the Finnish peoples, but I'm quite sure it was prevalent throughout the whole of the Sandinavian countries. Here is one link out of many. |
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31 Aug 02 - 03:31 PM (#774913) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: Clinton Hammond Neat... please let us know when it's Netscape compatable, and I'll check it out then... Got any Ultima Thule? I guess they're not really trad are they.... ;-)
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31 Aug 02 - 03:32 PM (#774914) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: weepiper Yeah, I'm into that! I have the fortune to have several friends of Scandinavian extraction, so have been introduced to the wonders of Garmarna, Hoven Droven, Hedningarna, Frifot, Gate, Bukken Bruse etc (may have misspelt some of those) and a load I don't know the names of. I'd certainly like to find out about more of the same or similar :-) |
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31 Aug 02 - 04:09 PM (#774930) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: Raedwulf I'll go with kat - *when* I've heard it... There were a couple of scand's at Beyond The Border in 2000 who were really good. Sadly I can't remember either name, of course, but the feller (Per something?) was not only playing folk, but playing trad instruments as well (such as the lur), & was fantastic! Kalevala - as a storyteller (& not a scand myself!) I would say that this is very *very* different from the Swede/Norse/Danish stuff. Certainly the mythology/story side is widely divergent, & the small amount of contact I've had with various scand's suggests that the Finns are culturally quite different from the others. The best comparison I can think of is imagine the Swedes/Norse/Danes/Icicles/etc are the UK, the Finns are Breton French - there's a deal in common if you look carefully (& you do need to look!), but there's at least as much that isn't. But, hey! I'm English! What do I know! *BG* |
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31 Aug 02 - 04:18 PM (#774932) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: skarpi Halló all, of course I am , great to hear about this . Here in Iceland some people are get together old tradinional songs and " Rímur " that is when one or more men sing/s the songs and I think this people are doing an amazing jop. Please let when you have get it started. All the best from Iceland, Skarpi . |
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31 Aug 02 - 06:37 PM (#774967) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: gwonya Bring it on! |
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31 Aug 02 - 10:03 PM (#775027) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: Malcolm Douglas The Kalevala was put together from traditional material collected during the late 19th century. The Finns are not Nordic, but related culturally and linguistically to the Hungarians: Finno-Ugric language group. |
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07 Sep 02 - 06:25 AM (#778546) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: bernil Hi Pollyanna! I like your site so far and am going to check it out now and then to see if something more has happened. I'm a Swedish woman who come here to Mudcat every day to read and sometimes write things myself. Perhaps I have tips for you about links but I can't PM you as you're not a member? Well, I can post some here too but I'm not prepared for that right now. I started a thread here about Swedish folkmusic once, I'll see if I can find it and perhaps make a link to it. Berit in Sweden |
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07 Sep 02 - 08:49 AM (#778590) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: Willie-O Polly, I like the site layout and content very much. No doubt Malcolm's point about Netscape compatibility is well taken; I don't have a copy of Netscape on this laptop. I'm still looking for info about Nordic musicians either resident in Canada or who might be able to perform in an event we're proposing in central Ontario in June 2003. Anyone drifting through this thread who might have a lead, drop me a PM. Willie-O |
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07 Sep 02 - 09:22 AM (#778601) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: Peg Willie-O; you might see about contacting the band Tempest; they are based in California but they do tour frequently. Lead singer Lief Sorbye is of Norwegian origin and the band does a lot of traditional songs of Scandinavia, sometimes with rock stylings added. I think I have an email address for them somewhere if you need it. Peg
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08 Sep 02 - 05:45 AM (#778998) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: Allan Dennehy I've been living in Copenhagen the past 20 years and have met many great Scandanavian folkies. Most of the ones I meet however play Irish material mainly when they are out. You might like to check out www.ashplant.dk and send a personal message to Martin O Hare. He knows just about every good player in Denmark and Sweeden and might be able to send you some good links. I'll be keeping an eye on your page. The best of luck with your project. |
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08 Sep 02 - 06:58 PM (#779292) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: Peter Kasin Yes! A few weeks ago there was the annual Valley Of The Moon Scottish Fiddling School at a camp in the Northern California redwoods, run by the fiddler Alasdair fraser. Alasdair expands the teaching beyond Scottish fiddling by bringing in instructors representing different cultures and fiddle styles. This year we were taught Swedish fiddle tunes by Ellika Frisell, from Stockholm - learning polskas and several other tunes. A great fiddler and lovely person! Last year we learned Norwegian tunes from Annjborg Lien. Learned some great tunes, and Annjborg's class brought home the musical connections between Norway, the Shetland Islands and Scotland. Chanteyranger |
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10 Sep 02 - 12:46 AM (#780216) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: GUEST,Lepus Rex Damn, Jim, thorough list, there... Nice site, Pollyanna. :) And since you've listed more Norwegians than Swedes, you rock. >:) I'm in a good mood: Looks like Hedningarna are going to be at the Nordic Roots Festival (replacing the reportedly ailing Mari Boine) in Minneapolis this month, and WITH the girls. I hope that works out... And I hope I don't get hit by a truck or something. At least until after the NRF. :) ---Lepus Rex |
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10 Sep 02 - 05:35 AM (#780267) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: greg stephens Good luck with this. And do take account of the "Greater Scandinavia" music. I'm particularly thinking of the areas I know, Orkney, Shetland(Scotland), Isle of Man, and the bit I know best, Cumbrian fiddle music (NW England).All Norse dominated in the past.The sea has always been a great means of communication in those parts. Send me a personal message if you'ld like info on links to Cumbrian music sites (or find me via the Boat Band,via harbourtownrecords.com website. |
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10 Sep 02 - 06:47 AM (#780286) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: Ralphie Pollyanna Firstly,may I add my best wishes for the site. Many years ago, I tried to introduce Swedish music to the UK, by bringing Filarfolket over...Artistically mesmerising, but a financial Mmmmmmm!! Maybe the UK wasn't quite ready for it.. Anyway, a few names to look out for Firstly, Ale Moller..(a bouzouki in every Swedish pie!) Groupa, Mats Eden, Avada band, Lene Willemark (marvellous singer) and maybe you could link to GIGA records..a fantastic resource of fiddlers and much, much more. Very jealous of our US friends, who seem to get more Scandiwegians visiting than we do...and the mention of Ellika reminds me about her latest collaboration with Solo Cissoko on Kora. Glorious! Keep flying the flag (Yellow and Blue, obviously!) Best Wishes Ralph Jordan (London) |
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10 Sep 02 - 07:05 AM (#780293) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: greg stephens Swap are coming to UK soon, I think, very superior Anglo-Swedish group. |
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10 Sep 02 - 09:12 AM (#780364) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: Ralphie Greg.... Good news...but...don't two of them live here anyway?? LOL! Cheers Ralphie |
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15 Sep 02 - 10:49 AM (#784363) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: GUEST,Pollyanna Ralph, thanks for the tips - I'm interested to hear about the trouble you hadd getting Filarfolket over, being in the UK too and not really knowing anyone else who likes Nordic music...what can we do to help introduce people? The Nordic site is the only affordable way I could think of. Did you know that Late Junction's next release is a Nordic compilation? That might help as they have some clout, and lots of people have discovered Nordic music through Fiona Talkington. (It's her complation, I'm about to build a page for my site about it) Polly p.s have you hear about the Northlands concert, part fi the folk in the fall season at the South Bank? www.networknorth.net |
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15 Sep 02 - 10:53 AM (#784368) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: GUEST,Pollyanna Dear Lepus Rex, must admit to having a bit of a special soft spot for Norwegian music (& people!)... Polly |
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15 Sep 02 - 10:57 AM (#784370) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: greg stephens One only now, Ralphie. Ian Carr's defected to Sweden. |
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15 Sep 02 - 10:58 AM (#784372) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: GUEST,Pollyanna Dear Greg, thanks for your suggestions about 'wider nordic' stuff. It's hard to know where to stop! At the moment I'm only covering the 'official' nordic countries (I think Finland officially IS nordic but Not Scandinavian) but obviously there is such a strong link with esp. Shetlands/Northern scotland that you can't exactly cover one and ignore the other, especially now with so many musicians doing both. I still dont have all that much up on the site so will probably have to start a nearly nordic section or something! Polly |
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15 Sep 02 - 11:03 AM (#784377) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: Peg wow what a great list of links! Thanks very much for putting that together... peg |
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15 Sep 02 - 02:52 PM (#784515) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: Jim Dixon Here are links to ... The Nordic Roots Festival in Minneapolis, MN, September 20-21, 2002; NorthSide, publisher of Nordic Roots music, including 3 sampler CD's for $5 each; Nordic Roots Radio |
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15 Sep 02 - 07:09 PM (#784689) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: Sam Pirt Hi I would most definitly check your site out. Cheers, Sam (Yorkshitre Nyckelharpa owner!! & accordion player!!) www.sampirt.co.uk |
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16 Sep 02 - 08:31 AM (#785002) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: Pollyanna Hi Sam, very nice-looking site! I dont suppose there are many other Nykelharpa players in the UK? I am also a really big fan of Maria kalaniemi, it's a shame people like her don't get to do concerts over here more. I'm hoping to get an idea, through my site, of how much interest there is for this kind of music. One of the problems with getting artists over here though is the Nordic labels not having distribution for their CDs etc etc so it's a bit complicated! Hopefully this Late Junction sampler wil help to encourage a bit more interest. There's a track of Maria's on it - there are some details of this CD on my site if you're interested. (www.nordicmusic.co.uk - theres a link to the info from the home page.) My site is not working properly in netscape yet, hope you have IE! Polly |
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16 Sep 02 - 06:35 PM (#785505) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: Ralphie Greg.... Mr Carr has gone over to the dark side Eh??!! Polly...Getting bands to the UK is all a question of paying them !! Something that a lot of organisers in the UK are not prepared to do, sadly. Where are you Geographically speaking? E me at Ralph.Jordan@bbc.co.uk...So we can talk more Cheers Ralphie |
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22 Sep 02 - 02:19 PM (#789084) Subject: nordicmusic.co.uk - now workingin netscape! From: Pollyanna Hello, just thought I'd let you know that I fixed the problem I was having with my site in netscape, so it should all be displying properly now. Ralph - sorry I didn't reply properly last week, the office move was a nightmare...now we just have to unpack... Funnily enough though Fiona and I were at the same do on Thursday. Polly |
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22 Sep 02 - 05:24 PM (#789167) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: Dave the Gnome Nice site indeed Polly. I will keep my eye on it to see if I can expand my 'listening base'. One suggestion for inclusion perhaps? (Only because they are amongst my favourites though:-)) From Denmark, the now sadly disbanded, Danish Dia Delight. I think the melodian player, Carl Erik Lundgaard, is still about. Fantastic Folk/Jazz/Roots/Rock everything rolled into one! One of my other faves is Andrew Cronshaw who is on your list I am glad to see! For those who do not know, but his interpretations of traditional Finno-Ugrian and Siberian music are wonderful. I would type in some of the titles but they all have o's with line through and little dots over the a's and all sorts of strange things... Cheers Dave the Gnordic (Well, English/Polish/Russin/Welsh really) Gnome |
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22 Sep 02 - 06:20 PM (#789190) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: michaelr Nordic music rules! I just got the new CD from Aly Bain and Ale Moller, "Fully Rigged" (Northside, 2001), and it's great! Shetland and Sweden jamming out. I'd like to take this opportunity to plug WorldLink TV again, where just last night I watched a Vasen performance video. WorldLink is an independent satellite TV channel, available in the US on DirecTV channel 375 and DishNetwork channel 9410. In addition to all sorts of world music videos, concerts and documentary/feature films, they also have news programs from Middle East sources, and progressive political features. Check it out! Cheers, Michael |
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23 Sep 02 - 03:46 AM (#789400) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: Ralphie michaelr Glad you mentioned the Moller/Bain CD....Had to call the record company to buy a copy. A "Must Buy" for all lovers of Boys of the Lough. It seems that the scandiwegians have more luck in the Us than in the UK...so it goes !! Polly...Glad the move was a success Ralphie |
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10 Oct 02 - 01:30 PM (#800470) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: OldPossum Hi Pollyanna, Great website! It needs more Danish stuff though! (You have probably guessed that I am from Denmark.)
I would like to nominate this web-site on Danish Folk Music - the link is http://www.folkmusic.dk/
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10 Oct 02 - 01:58 PM (#800491) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: Clinton Hammond Cool.. Now that the site is Nutscrape friendly, I can start plugging band names into my Peer-To-Peer searches and see what I can find... Always cool to find good new music... ;-) |
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04 Jan 03 - 04:06 PM (#858679) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: GUEST Since I haven't seen anyone else mention it, I thought I would throw in the Ruth McKenzie CD "Kalevala: Dream of the Salmon Maiden" which was an astounding collaboration sparked by her 1993 tour in Finland with Red House Records group Trova. "Ruth MacKenzie fell under the spell of a vocal style called "kulning" (a high-pitched Swedish song for calling animals). She soon returned to Scandinavia to study this and other traditional vocal styles with singers and teachers, who included Anna Sjobeerg, Liisa Matveinen, Mari Kiukas, Liisa Laaveri, and others. Petra Zilliacus and Barbara Cohen contributed the vocals for the CD and the live performances. It was billed as a "concert event" but is more like a folk opera with dance, done to higher artistic standards than Riverdance. You can learn more about the project at Omnium Record's website here: http://www.omnium.com/kalevala/ |
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04 Jan 03 - 05:07 PM (#858719) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: mg I'm listening to some right now..Scandinavian hour at KMUN Astoria Oregon. I just absolutely love it. Grew up hearing it. In the NW and I presume Midwest USA there are radio shows here and there..also in Washington/Oregon there are festivals you can go to ..midsummer in Poulsbo..something Finnish In Nasselle at some point...I especially love the Swedish walking fiddle tunes whatever they are called. mg |
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04 Jan 03 - 06:42 PM (#858796) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: Freso Well, even though I'm a Dane and into folk, it's really surprising how little Scandinavian stuff I know of... so, yeah... I'm interested too... :) And I'll be adding some Danish songs to the archive over the next days, and I'll try not to wait too long with translations as well... :P So, uhm, yeah... :) |
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04 Jan 03 - 07:14 PM (#858806) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: open mike i am soon going to receive my new nyckelharpa so i need to know what songs to play on it! |
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04 Jan 03 - 07:43 PM (#858821) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: jets I play the two row diatonic accordion in the band called Raaticoon. We play Finnish music. Our biggest festival that we play is the big festival in Lewiston Maine USA. It is the Festival de Joie.We are again booked for August 3 2003. This will be our 6th perfomance .I get the impression that some one likes Finnish music. I definetly will be interested in your site . Good luck |
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04 Jan 03 - 07:51 PM (#858827) Subject: "Freddie and his Fiddle" From: Abby Sale Well, now. Am glad to find a whole bunch interested in Nordic trad material. Have you ever come across a traditional song involving the Norwegian folk tale "Freddie and his Fiddle?" I've been looking long & hard for this and written every Musicologist, Folklorist, Theater Artsologist and Scandicologist I could think of. No luck yet. |
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19 Jun 10 - 06:59 PM (#2931248) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: open mike I returned from my fifth session at Scandinavian music and dance camp at www.scandiacampmendocino.com in the California Redwoods. there were over 100 people who spent a week at the Mendocino Woodlands Camp playing music and dancing with teachers from Norway and Sweden. I studied nyckelharpa with Cajsa Eckstav. More news later, I am writing this from my laptop in the car beside a coffee shop along the way home. |
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19 Jun 10 - 08:13 PM (#2931277) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: skarpi Norway Hardanger fiddle music look for - Sigmund Eikás and Synnove S. Björset. both very very good fiddlers , all best Skarpi |
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20 Jun 10 - 07:24 PM (#2931683) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: Tattie Bogle Strange how these really old threads keep re-surfacing! Anyway, just to say that there has been a "Northern Streams" event in Edinburgh each April for the last 6 years, promoted by the Edinburgh and Lothians branch of the TMSA (Traditional Music and Song Association of Scotland): this aims to bring together music from Scandinavia and Scotland. 2 years ago we had the group "Bellevue Rendezvous" which includes Ruth Morris on Nyckelharpa, and last year Ditte Andersson, also on Nyckelharpa. This year we had Britt Pernille Froholm on Hardanger fiddle, and Irene Tilling on button accordion: the combined with two Scottish musicians, Lori and Innes Watson, as "Boreas", and we also had 3/4 of Swedish group Svanevit,. (There were some "volcanic ash" problems at the time preventing the 4th member from travelling!) Another popular group, who have been to Edinburgh several times, and with Danish and Swedish members is Habbadam. See Youtube for some videos of Boreas, and a close look at that lovely Hardanger fiddle: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ1-BKT9VkU |
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21 Jun 10 - 12:29 PM (#2932032) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: GUEST,TJ in San Diego Though I was adopted as a youth, I was born with the last name of Andersen to a first generation Danish American mother who I have since come to know. She and her brothers and sisters all grew up in South Dakota. Her eldest sister remembered songs they enjoyed as children. I have been trying to coax them out of her but, at age 97, it may be a losing battle. Someone I am aware has long been interested in Nordic folk traditions, especially Norwegian, is Nancy Quense, of Seattle area. Bob (Deckman) Nelson is very familiar with her. Though I have not seen her in many years, I still vividly recall her passion for things Norwegian. |
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24 Jun 10 - 03:51 PM (#2934158) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: open mike in the seattle area the scandinavian dance organization is quite active http://www.skandia-folkdance.org/ |
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28 Jun 10 - 01:20 PM (#2936089) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: GUEST,Philippa I love listening to Scandinavian music (and have learned a few tunes on fiddle). If you are in UK it's worthwhile looking up info on the yearly Scandimoot. Some of the people involved in that event in Yorkshire also travel together to Dalarna festival in Sweden (late June/early July) |
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29 Jun 10 - 08:56 AM (#2936599) Subject: RE: Anyone for Nordic traditional music? From: GUEST,Wotcha Just a few hours from moving to Stavanger ... and kicking myself for missing the Stord Fest (south of Bergen) which features their local group the Storm Weather Shanty "choir." Will be collecting Nordic sea chanteys when I can and reviving singarounds in the local area. My mother worked in the British Embassy and High Commission in Stockholm in the late 40s (she was also a governess for the family of the Olympics chairman of the time) and she passed on her collection of Finnish books including an English translation of the Kalevala, so have some winter reading ahead ... May have to learn Nye Norsk to learn the older songs, since Bokmal is unlikely to capture ancient songs. Cheers, Ha det bra Wotcha Brian |