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List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs

12 Nov 02 - 09:48 PM (#824766)
Subject: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: JedMarum

What are your favorite (religious) Christmas songs, Mudcatters? Are there regional, traditional songs that you especially like? Do we have them in the DT?


12 Nov 02 - 09:52 PM (#824769)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: sharyn

I'm partial to The Cherry Tree Carol -- there are lots and lots of versions of it (but I haven't checked the DT)


12 Nov 02 - 09:54 PM (#824772)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: JedMarum

I always liked the implied faith and "magic" of Scarlet Ribbons - though it is not a Christmas Song specifically.

I also really a "Oh Come Oh Come Emanuel" pretty song.


12 Nov 02 - 09:54 PM (#824773)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: JedMarum

I don't know The Cherry Tree Carol?


12 Nov 02 - 09:59 PM (#824779)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: JedMarum

It is in the DT; here. Now I need to go read this apocryphal story in order to understand it better. Thanks Shayrn.


12 Nov 02 - 10:14 PM (#824793)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Clinton Hammond

Well, what do you want? Folk X-mas songs or religious songs?


12 Nov 02 - 10:18 PM (#824794)
Subject: Lyr Add: ADESTE FIDELES
From: mg

There is a beautiful one I have only heard on one record..it is in Latin..Mariam et Joseph et infantatem positum in precipio.

I love Latin and miss it so much. ADESTE FIDELES. Other people are forever singing Panis Angelicus to a different tune on Christmas but I haven't ever heard a Catholic do it. Bing Crosby did the definitive version of Adeste Fideles.

Well, if no one knows the words, here they are from memory which may be wrong..

Adeste fideles laeti triumphantes
Venite venite in Bethlehem
Natum videte regem angelorum
Venite adoremus venite adoremus venite adoremus dominun

Cantate nunc lo chorus angelorum
Cantate hodie in Jerusalem
Gloria gloria in excelsis deo
Venite etc.

Deum de deo lumen de lumine
Deum verum de deo vero
Genitum non factum transubstantionem
venite etc...


Has anyone heard that one?

mg


12 Nov 02 - 10:26 PM (#824804)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Jeri

Clinton?
Religious Christmas songs. As opposed to Jingle Bells and Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer.

I'm not religious, but it doesn't stop me having favorite religious Christmas songs. I agree with sharyn about the Cherry Tree Carol. The thing gets stuck in my head every year and I kind of like it there. Great tune to play too.
Here's one version (this is the tune I know) and here's another.

O Holy Night. Local Jay Smith who passed away recently used to do a version that gave me chills. I also like Silent Night - I've never gotten sick of it like other folks I know have. The tune's beautiful and has lots of room to improvise. I used to love playing this on hammered dulcimer.


12 Nov 02 - 10:30 PM (#824806)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: DougR

Jed: The Robert Shaw Chorale has the best (IMO) recording of "The Cherry Tree Carol" around. It was recorded in about 1950, and is available on some Robert Shaw albums on CD. A tenor, I know not who, is fetured on the recording. I asked Shaw one time whether the soloist was male or female and he said, "Male." He has a very high tenor voice that is absolutely emotionally moving.

sharyn: thanks for mentioning this song. It is one of my favorites too.

DougR


12 Nov 02 - 10:35 PM (#824811)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: sharyn

The Holly Bears a Berry is nice, too. This is not the same as The Holly and the Ivy. (Again, I haven't checked the DT). If you want it, let me know and I'll post the words.

Then there is Down in Yon Forest. Baez sang it. The Voice Squad sings it. And if it isn't here I'll post a set of words if someone asks.

Shepherds Arise, made famous by the Copper Family is good, too.

There are lots: What about I Saw Three Ships? (aka As I Sat on a Sunny Bank)

And if you extend your quest to seasonally appropriate songs you can sing The Cutty Wren on Saint Stephen's Day and a whole bunch of wassail songs.


12 Nov 02 - 11:38 PM (#824856)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Hester

Sharyn suggested "Down in Yon Forest"

One of my favourites too! Particularly the version sung by Bruce Cockburn on his fabulous CD simply titled "Christmas".

Here are the words:

http://cockburnproject.net/songs&music/diyf.html

... and of course, a variant on the same theme, "The Corpus Christi Carol" (although probably not sung at Yuletide), particularly the achingly sweet version by the late Jeff Buckley.

And just to get back to my favourite obsession, I think "Down in Yon Forest" has strong mythic parallels with the Robin Hood death ballad (Child 120):

http://hesternic.tripod.com/herobound.htm

And speaking of Bruce Cockburn, he's written a modern hymn called "The Cry of a Tiny Babe", which, in its first verse, deals with Joseph's jealous anger about Mary's pregnancy, as in the Cherry Tree Carol.

Cheers, Hester


13 Nov 02 - 12:14 AM (#824884)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: sharyn

Actually, The Robert Shaw Chorale recording of "The Cherry Tree Carol" that I first heard features Florence Kopleff, a contralto soloist. The reference is Robert Shaw Chorale: Now Go We All A-Caroling, RCA VIC-1509. It is my favorite recording of the song and the version I have sung since childhood.


13 Nov 02 - 01:05 AM (#824907)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Bert

Tee Hee, - Naughty commercial plug coming up...






Well it ain't folk but it's mine and it's one of MY favourites.

Stars and Snowflakes


And it's on my CD.


13 Nov 02 - 02:30 AM (#824923)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Genie

Riu, Riu Chiu (aka "Guardo El Lobo") - a medieval Spanish carol that is very haunting

The Friendly Beasts

God Rest Ye Merry, Gentlemen

A La Nanita (I think this one is from Mexico. It's a lullaby.)

Virgin Mary (as sung by Carolyn Hester)


13 Nov 02 - 07:19 AM (#825008)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: GUEST,IanN

Another Christmas song by Tull. I like it so much I play it all the year round!


13 Nov 02 - 08:12 AM (#825049)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Bat Goddess

Cherry Tree Carol (Not the "Searching for Lambs" tune -- the other one)

Holly and the Ivy (the "rising of the sun, the running of the deer" version)

In Praise of Christmas

various Wren songs

Boar's Head Carol

In the Bleak Midwinter

Once in David's Holy City

Pogo's "Deck Us All With Boston Charlie"

and The Christmas Shanty (which I don't seem to have in file -- I'll have to find my hard copy!) --
"It was early in the morning in December (December)
When all of my money it was spent (spent spent)
Where it went to, I really can't remember (remember)
So down to the credit union I went (went, went)
Santa come back
Take up the slack," etcet, etcet.


Linn


13 Nov 02 - 08:40 AM (#825083)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: sian, west wales

I like the Holly and the Ivy - either of two tunes which I have in a Cornish carol collection, not the one I tend to associate with Oxford choir boys. Also, "I Wonder as I Wander", and Jean Ritchie's "Brightest and Best". "Mary and the Baby" which I mentioned on the Homeless thread. Would "Silent Night" count? (I don't see why not!) Also, some Welsh plygain carols, but I doubt if anyone else would know those ...

sian


13 Nov 02 - 08:45 AM (#825087)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: MMario

Most of the ones mentioned I like - some to sing, some just for listening. Also 'The Bellman's Carol'; 'Angels We Have Heard on High'; the lullabye version of "Away in a Manger" and 'The Huron Carol'


13 Nov 02 - 08:47 AM (#825092)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: allanwill

The only things I like about christmas are two songs - Harry Simoene's "Little Drummer Boy" and Bimg Crosby's "Do You See What I See".

Roll on, the thiteenth day of xmas.

Allan


13 Nov 02 - 08:55 AM (#825103)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: GUEST,Sheila

There's a sweet, lovely Spanish lullaby called "A La Puerto del Cielo" which ends with "Arru, arru." Quite tender.


13 Nov 02 - 08:58 AM (#825106)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Hester

The wonderfully pagan "Ring Out, Solstice Bells", by Jethro Tull.

And "Masters in this Hall", as done by Pete Seeger, who notes that it was a favourite of William Morris.

And how can anyone mention Bing Crosby and "The Little Drummer Boy" in the same breath without thinking of the version with David Bowie, which also mixes in "Peace on Earth".

And oh yes: "Go Tell it on the Mountain" as done by Simon & Garfunkel.

Cheers, Hester


13 Nov 02 - 09:22 AM (#825123)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Catarina

Adeste Fideles is a common Chistmas song in Portugal. I'm sorry but I don't know if we have recordings, but is usualy sung during Chistmas Mass. The author was our king John the IVth (D. João IV) who is said to have beeen quite a good musician and composer and not much of a king.
My own favourite Christmas songs are Little Drummer Boy and O night divine.


13 Nov 02 - 09:27 AM (#825127)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: GUEST

Anyone seen/heard St Agnes Fountain. A great collaberation of musicians who get together at Christmas time & tour with unusual takes on trad. carols (& a few other things).

If you get the chance go & see them this year.


13 Nov 02 - 09:37 AM (#825141)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: JedMarum

"quite a good musician and composer and not much of a king???"

I like his guy!

I could spend weeks researching all these songs. Thanks folks. I do love Adeste Fideles too, and remember it from Mass more then from Bing but I liked Bing's version too.

Since so many are familiar with the Cherry Tree Carol and its base story, I really will have to go off and find the Pseudo-Matthew gospel from which it apprently originates. I guess those apocryphal stories were kept well hidden from us Catholic boys!


13 Nov 02 - 11:51 AM (#825288)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: sian, west wales

I forgot: D'ou viens-tu, Bergere!

sian


13 Nov 02 - 01:01 PM (#825354)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: DancingMom

"Mary Had a Baby" from the Bruce Cockburn Christmas. That entire CD is wonderful. Sharon


13 Nov 02 - 01:16 PM (#825362)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Amergin

the grinch song...


13 Nov 02 - 01:55 PM (#825398)
Subject: Lyr Add: LAST MONTH OF THE YEAR
From: open mike

i like the one which seems to be a black spiritual
Twelvth month of the year..
it is on the seeger family christmas i think
and the chorus goes january (january) february (february)
March, april and may,,,,june july and august,,,, sept. oct. nov.
it was the 25th day of december...
there is one line in the verse as i recall
such as:
he was born by the virgin mary....
on the last month of the year,,,

what month was jesus born?
on the last month of the year,,,

gonna tell God how you treat me...
on the last month of the year,,,

gonna shake glad hands with my mother
on the last month of the year,,,

although i believe i have heard a more'
rousing version than the seeger family..
by Bim and Connie Kaldor on their
album new songs for a old celebration...

it is a good educational song-
little ones may learn the months of the year
from hearing them repeated so often in the chorus..


13 Nov 02 - 03:06 PM (#825446)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Tinker

Jed, this one is really in the folk process. You might want to try this book apocryphal tales It is writings the church fathers discarded after the fourth century. They passed down through the folk process after that.

I found one source on line that uses the hypothesis that it was originally a date tree which then "processes" into a cherry tree. (but it gave no sources). The story would fit nicely with others about the boy Jesus making clay sparrows and giving them the breath of life, but I can't spot it in any of my books. Let me know if you find it. I'll give a closer read through the Infancy readings tonite and see if I can spot it.

Kathy


13 Nov 02 - 04:45 PM (#825550)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Tinker

Apocryphal Book of Matthew


CHAP. 20.-- And it came to pass on the third day of their journey, while they were walking, that the blessed Mary was fatigued by the excessive heat of the sun in the desert; and seeing a palm tree, she said to Joseph: Let me rest a little under the shade of this tree. Joseph therefore made haste, and led her to the palm, and made her come down from her beast. And as the blessed Mary was sitting there, she looked up to the foliage of the palm, and saw it full of fruit, and said to Joseph: I wish it were possible to get some of the fruit of this palm. And Joseph said to her: I wonder that thou sayest this, when thou seest how high the palm tree is; and that thou thinkest of eating of its fruit. I am thinking more of the want of water, because the skins are now empty, and we have none wherewith to refresh ourselves and our cattle. Then the child Jesus, with a joyful countenance, reposing in the bosom of His mother, said to the palm: O tree, bend thy branches, and refresh my mother with thy fruit. And immediately at these words the palm bent its top down to the very feet of the blessed Mary; and they gathered from it fruit, with which they were all refreshed. And after they had gathered all its fruit, it remained bent down, waiting the order to rise from Him who bad commanded it to stoop. Then Jesus said to it: Raise thyself, O palm tree, and be strong, and be the companion of my trees, which are in the paradise of my Father; and open from thy roots a vein of water which has been hid in the earth, and let the waters flow, so that we may be satisfied from thee. And it rose up immediately, and at its root there began to come forth a spring of water exceedingly clear and cool and sparkling. And when they saw the spring of water, they rejoiced with great joy, and were satisfied, themselves and all their cattle and their beasts. Wherefore they gave thanks to God.


13 Nov 02 - 05:13 PM (#825580)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Mary in Kentucky

Here are some of my latest favorites:

When Christmas Morn is Dawning - an old tune; we discussed it here; Wolfgang and several others helped with some history of the tune; Berit helped with the Swedish.

Christmas Comes But Once a Year - variant of Greensleeves; Masato found this one for me.

Il Est Ne (He is Born) at the cyberhymnal here.

Whence Comes This Rush of Wings here.

Rock-a-bye My Sweet Little Boy here.

I'm always looking for more, so please keep 'em coming.


13 Nov 02 - 11:23 PM (#825662)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Duane D.

I always liked Tom Lehrer's "A Christmas Carol" but lately I'm liking the instrumental arrangements on George Winston's "December" album, particularly, "Some Children See Him."


14 Nov 02 - 03:35 AM (#825688)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Hrothgar

Nobody has mentioned "Silent Night" yet???


14 Nov 02 - 08:26 AM (#825708)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Alio

The Holly Bears a Berry and The Holly and the Ivy, for me. As for religious ones, I think In the Bleak Midwinter is beautiful.

How many weeks to go?

Ali


14 Nov 02 - 08:30 AM (#825713)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Dahlin

The Peace Carol by Bob Beers


14 Nov 02 - 05:54 PM (#826310)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Beer

Jesus,the Fugitive Prince By David Massengill
Silent Night All Day Long By John Prine
Christmas in The Trenches Sung by John McDermott


14 Nov 02 - 06:31 PM (#826345)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: rea

Bleak Midwinter (by Christina Rossetti - does that mean it isn't folk?)
Most Wassail songs.
Silent Night as done by Simon and Garfunkel
Holly and the Ivy as done by Steeleye Span
Seven Joys of Mary - most versions, including Great Big Sea's, but not only.
The Christmas Song - Dave Matthews Band (don't hate me! it's good!)


14 Nov 02 - 09:44 PM (#826488)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: mmb

Anything in any of the Nowell Sing We Clear albums! I can't possibly list all the titles, but approaching their 28th season of live performances and with(I believe) 5 CD's, John Roberts, Tony Barrand, Fred Bruenig, and Andy Davis (successor to Steve Woodruff) have kept the spirit of both Christmas and folk music alive and well! (Hey, Sandy, do I get a commission for hyping their albums? My nostalgia runneth over!)
   
Having attended for 23 of those years, I can attest to the sheer joy shared by their audiences, singing and foot-tapping through both the "religious" and "pagan/Solstice" portions of the performance. Especially when it was in the former St. Mark's church in Guilderland, when the building would resonate like an instrument to the tapping of everal hundred feet, whose owners loved blending their own harmonies as much as anticipating what foolish topical humor would arise in each year's Mummer's Play.

It is not for no reason that putting the first Nowell album into our record player remains our family's first non-church observance of Advent. It brings us together, even though I am 1500 miles away.

Plug "Nowell Sing We Clear" into your search engine and look for a location near you. Or get one of the CD's. Or give yourself a real gift and travel if you can, to experience one.


14 Nov 02 - 11:54 PM (#826568)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: outfidel

I like the entire Emmylou Harris Christmas album, Light in the Stable


15 Nov 02 - 01:28 AM (#826594)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Bert

Jed, I was going to cut and paste that same phrase with the comment that "at least he got his priorities right"


15 Nov 02 - 06:21 AM (#826703)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Gervase

The Dunster Lullaby, as sung by Coope Boyes & Simpson in their Christmas Truce performance, is a lovely gentle song. And I'm sure we could claim In the Bleak Midwinter as folk - Holst could well have plundered some of the tune from a traditional source.
There's some good Christmas songs by the Susex a-capella group Ramskyte on one of their CDs, and Maddy Prior ands the Carnival Band did a good Christmas recording some years back. All infinitely better than anything by Max Bygraves!


15 Nov 02 - 08:42 AM (#826796)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Folkie

The Sheffield pub carols are my favourites, especially While Shepherds sung to the tune Pentonville. Have a listen to the version Vital Spark do on their CD "There were Shepherds"


15 Nov 02 - 09:15 AM (#826830)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: JJ

DougR, in the Robert Shaw Chorale's version of "The Cherry Tree Carol" you're referring to, the tenor soloist is Russell Oberlin. The recording is "Christmas Hymns and Carols, Volume II," RCA LM-1711.

Oberlin sang countertenor roles later in the 50s, notably in the Pro Musica Antiqua's PLAY OF DANIEL.

Sharyn, Florence Kopleff is the contralto on this recording, but that's not her on this cut. Robert Shaw made several recordings of Christmas carols with various personnel, released and re-released under various titles, so it must be another session.


15 Nov 02 - 10:17 AM (#826876)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Genie

I'm not sure "Stille Nacht" should be counted as "folk," since we know who wrote the music and the lyrics, and it was composed for a specific occasion, with written sheet music.   But it's been adopted by folks all over the world and translated into many languages, including several versions of "Silent Night" and several of "Noche De Paz," and "everybody knows it," so I guess it's a folk song in the same way that some of Stephen Foster's songs are.

It IS one of my favorites, and I love to sing it in German, English, and Spanish.

Genie


15 Nov 02 - 10:43 AM (#826903)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: GUEST,Herring_brother

Not religious, buts it's got to be 'Fairytale of New York' by The Pogues & Kirsty MacColl.


15 Nov 02 - 12:22 PM (#826978)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Kim C

The Holly Tree Carol (same as The Holly Bears a Berry) :-)

O Holy Night has always been one of my most favorites. One of these days I will be bold enough to learn it in the original French. For now I will content myself with Joan Baez's version, on her wonderfully marvelous Noel album.


15 Nov 02 - 12:43 PM (#826994)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: GUEST,Paulo

From the tradition "Bitter Withy" - well I sing it at Christmas anyway

Also a Cyril Tawney composition - "There are no lights on our Christmas tree"

Both in the DT by the way


15 Nov 02 - 12:54 PM (#827007)
Subject: Lyr Add: WHIP ME SANTA CLAUS
From: Amergin

not exactly folks...but...

WHIP ME SANTA CLAUS
Mucus and the Bloody Phlegm
("Here Comes Santa Claus")

CHORUS: Whip me Santa Claus
Spank me Santa Claus;
Don't worry if my flesh be seared.
I should be harshly punished
For being bad all year.

Whip me Santa Claus
Spank me Santa Claus;
The time of reckoning is near.
I have to pay my social debt
Before I can have cheer.

Choosing the correction
Is solely up to you,
But I would like a reddened butt,
Do what you have to do.
If your hands are fragile,
A paddle you might use.
I want to surely pay my debt,
Therefore, you must abuse.
Paddles can have nails,
Yes that would be real good.
And like an executioner,
Please wear a leather hood.

Chorus

What is this you tell me,
You'll never punish me.
Cause that is not the way you work,
Hell that is news to me.
When you don't bring presents
To children that were bad,
Then you have punished them
I say by making them feel bad.
Violence may offend you,
Then use a gentle touch.
But still I want that reddened butt,
Is that asking too much?

Chorus


15 Nov 02 - 01:13 PM (#827024)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Genie

You're a sick boy, Nathan. Sick, sick, sick! *BG*

Genie


15 Nov 02 - 01:41 PM (#827053)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: PaulBobbyBuzz

"Cry of a Tiny Babe" from the fabulous "Nothin' but a Burnin' Light" Cockburn CD pbb


15 Nov 02 - 03:36 PM (#827181)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: 53

Silent Night I don't know whether its a folk song or not but its my favorite.


15 Nov 02 - 04:29 PM (#827229)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: GUEST,John Gray in Oz

Dear Santa,

Again it is nearing that time of the year,
With lots of good fellowship - lots of good cheer,
But when its all over, I know I'll be crook,
From too much wine, plum pudding and chook,
So if I am lonely, and not near a pub,
Please leave me six inches of beer in a tub.

Your Pal, John

Crook = ill.
Chook = chicken.

JG/FME


15 Nov 02 - 04:41 PM (#827242)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: John MacKenzie

Christmas is now drawing near at hand
So thank the lord and be at his command
And God a portion for you will provide,
And prove a blessing to your soul beside.

I can't remember what this is called, it is on the Watersons Frost and Fire album, and is without doubt my favourite Christmas song.

Bom dia.....Giok


16 Nov 02 - 06:48 PM (#827998)
Subject: Lyr/Tune Add: DUERMETE, NINO LINDO (A LA RU)
From: Haruo

This is a Southwest US Hispanic Christmas folksong whose title is given as "Duérmete, Niño lindo" (the incipit) or "A la ru" (from the refrain). The usual English version is "Oh, sleep now, holy baby" by John Donald Robb [d. 1989] (but note that the Spanish Infant is "pretty", not "holy".

Duérmete, Niño lindo

  1. Duérmete, Niño lindo, en los brazos del amor
    mientras que duerme_y descansa la pena de mi dolor.

              (Estribillo:)
         A la ru, a la mé, a la ru, a la mé,
         a la ru, a la mé, a la ru, a la ru, a la mé.
  2. No temas al rey Herodes que nada te_ha de hacer;
    en los brazos de tu y_ahi nadie te_ha de_ofender.
              (Estribillo:)
         A la ru, a la mé, a la ru, a la mé,
         a la ru, a la mé, a la ru, a la ru, a la mé.
Here's the MIDITEXT of the melody line:

MIDI file: alaru.mid

Timebase: 192

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This program is worth the effort of learning it.

To download the latest version of MIDItext and get instructions on how to use it click here

ABC format:

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I believe the copyright to the Robb translation, which follows, is held by the (© 1954) University of New Mexico Press, as is that to Mr. Robb's arrangement, which can be found in several recent US hymnals, including the 1990 Presbyterian Hymnal (also published under the title Hymns, Psalms and Spiritual Songs) and the 1995 Lutheran supplement With One Voice:

Oh, Sleep Now, Holy Baby

  1. Oh, sleep now, holy baby, with you head against my breast;
    - meanwhile the pangs of my sorrow are soothed and put to rest.
              (Refrain:)
         A la ru, a la mé, a la ru, a la mé,
         a la ru, a la mé, a la ru, a la ru, a la mé.
  2. You need not fear King Herod, he will bring no harm to you;
    so rest in the arms of your mother who sings you a la ru.
              (Estribillo:)
         A la ru, a la mé, a la ru, a la mé,
         a la ru, a la mé, a la ru, a la ru, a la mé.


17 Nov 02 - 04:00 AM (#828239)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Genie

Among religious Christmas songs, I love Mark Lowry's (sp?) "Mary, Did You Know?" It could be considered "folk" in the same sense that Bill Staines's or Gordon Bok's songs are "folk." Anyway, it has a real folky sound to it.

(My sister and I both change one line in it, though. The line about "...your baby boy will someday rule all nations" I sing as "... your baby boy can bring peace to all nations?" I originally thought that was the way it was written, and I decided not to change it after I found out the actual line. Sorry, Mark.)


17 Nov 02 - 05:37 AM (#828267)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: fiddler

Well The Boars Head Carol is brilliant - not specifically Christmas but is usually only hear then.

And thats form me veggie almost Vegan but a beutiful tune and the words match it!

A


17 Nov 02 - 10:23 AM (#828366)
Subject: Lyr Add: THE CAROL OF THE ROSE
From: GUEST,Julia

"The Carol of the Rose" is one I discovered last year. A little along the lines of "The Little Drummer Boy," I suppose.

Go pretty child, and bear this flower
Unto thy little Saviour;
And tell him, by that bud now blown,
He is the Rose of Sharon known:
When thou hast said so, stick it there
Upon his bib and stomacher:
And tell him (for good handsell too)
That thou hast brought a whistle new,
Made of a clean and oaten reed,
To charm his cries (at time of need):
Tell him, for coral, thou hast none,
But if thou hadst, he should have one;
But poor thou art, and known to be
Even as moniless as he.
Lastly, if thou canst win a kiss
From those mellifluous lips of his,
Then never take a second one
To spoil the first impression.


17 Nov 02 - 11:14 AM (#828387)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: GUEST,Saulgoldie

Does it have to be "Christmas" or is "Winter" OK?

A Soulcake (as I hear it in my head by PPM)
Song for a Winter's Night By Gordon Lightfoot (and BTW, anyone know how he is doing?)
Green Christmas by Stan Frieberg
Hot Buttered Rum from Bryan Bowers
Hard Times (again) from Bryan Bowers
The (mostly) annual piece by Chuck Cramer on NPR
and as has already been mentioned:
Christmas in the Trenches by John McCutcheon
(...and on each end of the rifle, we're the same)

If the prompt was for carols only, I apologize for being out of step.


17 Nov 02 - 11:34 AM (#828394)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Leadfingers

I am with you there Giok -Christmas is now Drawing Near at Hand from
Frost and Fire.And you can cheat and use it as an Easter Carol too.
Adeste Fideles is definately better in Latin than in translation,so
I am in agreement with Mary Garvey too.
And for the secular side,Tom Lehrer or Adrian May


17 Nov 02 - 02:46 PM (#828516)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: meatrail

Rebel Jesus
Bring A Torch, Jeannette, Isabella.
Tunney


17 Nov 02 - 10:06 PM (#828728)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Julia

I don't know who the other Julia is, but this is me. My faves are the Christ Child Lullaby and the Wexford Carol
If you like British Isles carols and Celtic harp music check out the album Yuletide Treasure from www.castlebay.net


27 Nov 02 - 02:19 PM (#835880)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: denise:^)

I learned a song once--'way back in junior high school--that was listed as a 'traditional Appalachian carol.' I've never seen it anywhere since, and it just occurred to me that someone here might know it, too--

It was called, "Sweet Mary, Guard Thy Precious Child." If it truly *is* an Appalachian carol, I'm sure they 'smartened it up' a bit for our choral arrangement, and I'd love to see a more 'authentic' version.

Anyone ever hear of it?

denise:^)


27 Nov 02 - 02:44 PM (#835896)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Steve-o

Do not laugh, and do not turn up your nose until you've listened to it- the best Christmas album I own is "The Last Month of the Year" by the Kingston Trio. A great selection (some not so well-known carols, including ancient ones), perfectly arranged and played (not the usual syrupy orchestrations), and fine three-part harmonies. Check it out....unless you're one of them purist types.


27 Nov 02 - 03:37 PM (#835934)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Genie

"Coventry Carol (Lullay, Thou Little Tiny Child)" is a beautiful one.

Also "The Hills Are Bare At Bethlehem."


27 Nov 02 - 03:46 PM (#835937)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: GUEST

The Joseph Spence version of Santa Claus is Coming to town is a true classic that must be heard to be believed.


27 Nov 02 - 07:21 PM (#836069)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Haruo

So, in its way, is the Tlingit version of "Santa Claus is coming to town".

Haruo


09 Dec 02 - 11:38 PM (#844302)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: GUEST,Su Rynas

Pat-a-pan


11 Dec 02 - 10:02 PM (#845706)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Genie

There are at least 3 Christmas folk songs called "The Carol Of The Birds." (See the forum for a thread that has various versions of all of them.)

I especially like the one called "Whence Comes This Rush Of Wings?"


11 Dec 02 - 10:40 PM (#845726)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: TIA

"I Wonder as I Wander" is not only a haunting tune, but true blue folk/trad. -- "discovered" in the 20's or 30's in southern Appalachia with no known (as far as I can tell) composed forebearer. Anyone know more on this one?


12 Dec 02 - 05:29 PM (#846220)
Subject: Lyr Add: NOËL EST ARRIVÉ (French carol)
From: GUEST,ClaireBear (new guest)

Here's one that may appeal to those who have a thing for obscure medieval French (from Provence) folk carols that have a quirky, Second Shepherds' Play feeling to them.

My early French isn't good enough to translate it for you, but I believe the chorus translates roughly to "My leg hurts -- saddle my horse for me." It's about a shepherd who's too fat and too hypochondriacal about drafts to go see the new baby. That should give you the basic idea.

Here 'tis:

NOËL EST ARRIVÉ
(la jambe me fait mal)

Y'a tant de gens
Qui font pèlerinage
Y'a tant de gens
Qui vont à Bethléem,
Moi, d'y aller,
J'aurais bien le courage,
Moi d'y aller,
Si je pouvais marcher !

Refrain :

La jambe me fait mal,
Boute-selle, boute-selle,
La jambe me fait mal,
Boute-selle à mon cheval !

Tous les bergers,
Campés dans la montagne,
Tous les bergers,
Ont vu le messager,
Qui a crié:
" Mettez vous en campagne,"
Qui a crié :
" Le fils de Dieu est né ! "

Pour ma santé,
Les fièvres sont malsaines,
Pour ma santé,
Mieux vaut les éviter,
J'ai attrapé
Une fièvre quartaine,
J'ai attrapé
Que j'en reste éclopé.

Les gens à pied
Me laissent en arrière,
Les gens à pied
Me laissent le dernier.
Un malotru
A ri de mes manières,
Un malotru
Tout lourd et tout ventru !

Mon cheval blanc
Qui passe ventre à terre,
Mon cheval blanc
Me mènera devant
L'ai acheté
D'un qui venait de guerre,
L'ai acheté
Moins cher qu'il n'a coûté.

Quand j'aurai vu
Le Fils du Dieu le Père,
Quand j'aurai vu
Le Roi du ciel venu,
M'en revenant
De saluer sa Mère,
M'en revenant
Tout sera différent.

Refrain final :

Je n'aurai plus de mal,
Boute-selle, boute-selle,
Je n'aurai plus de mal,
Boute-selle à mon cheval !

You can find Midi and these words at this site: La Jambe Me Fait Mal

(here's the address in case my blue clicky doesn't work) http://perso.club-internet.fr/bmarcore/noel/N131.html

I learned it from Malicorne's "Almanach" years ago, but that version only has three verses and leaves out the most interesting ones. Tune's basically the same as above, but marvelously harmonized and with a couple of embellishments that make the CD worth tracking down if you like that sort of thing. Here are the Malicorne words:

Tous les bergers étant sur la montagne
Tous les bergers ont vu un messager
Qui leur a dit mettez-vous en campagne
Qui leur a dit Noël est arrivé

La jambe me fait mal
Boutte sel, boutte sel
La jambe me fait mal
Boutte sel à mon cheval

Un gros berger, qui fait seul le voyage
Un gros berger s'en va à petits pas
S'est retourné au bruit de mes paroles
Je lui ai dit "Noël est arrivé"

Réveillez-vous, mettez-vous en fenêtre
Réveillez-vous, sortez de vos maisons
Venez tous voir, l'enfant qui vient de naître
Réveillez-vous, Noël est arrivé


Happy Christmas!
Claire


13 Dec 02 - 04:06 AM (#846506)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: coco

Away in manger
o come all ye faithfull
silent night
jingle bells


13 Dec 02 - 11:07 AM (#846684)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: My guru always said

Not Folk I know:

Adam lay ye bounden
The shepherd's cradle song
Adeste Fideles (wonderful!)

Health & Happiness to all :-)


13 Dec 02 - 11:39 AM (#846703)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: TIA

Adam lay y-bounden is beautiful. I've never figured out a sensible key signature for it. It seems to change several times. I just pretend it's open and everything is an accidental.


13 Dec 02 - 11:55 AM (#846711)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: GUEST,jaze

Do Simon and Garfunkle have a Christmas album that I don't know about? There are at least 2 Christmas songs by them mentioned above. What lp are they from?


13 Dec 02 - 12:17 PM (#846723)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: GUEST,JohnB

This years favourite is "Noel and Noel" plus a whole bunch of the Yorkshire Pub Carols. Pentonville and Shepherds Arise to name a couple.
JohnB


04 Dec 04 - 04:07 AM (#1347052)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Genie

I love the "Virgin Mary" song recorded by Carolyn Hester.


04 Dec 04 - 04:26 AM (#1347061)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Jean Johnson

Boar's head carol

Ditchling carol

Shepherds arise

God rest ye merry gentlemen

The Coventry carol


05 Dec 04 - 04:14 AM (#1347823)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: GUEST

"Hey Santa, where's me f^*&ing bike", by the Aussie Kevin "Bloody" Wilson.
Cheers
Owlkat


05 Dec 04 - 11:17 AM (#1348003)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Dave Earl

"Shepherds Arise" As sung by the Copper family carries my vote.

Dave


05 Dec 04 - 10:20 PM (#1348475)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Margret RoadKnight

"Red and Green Christnmas" by Nadia Cattouse
and that Jewish Xmas lullaby "Sweetest Dreams Be Thine"


06 Dec 04 - 01:46 AM (#1348563)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: GUEST,Harmoni

The Christmas Song (Chestnuts Roasting On An Open Fire)

So This Is Christmas (John Lennon)\

Mary's Boy Child Jesus Christ (not sure that's the title, but it's sung by Boney M)

In The Bleak Mid-Winter

Christmas In The Trenches

My Grown-Up Christmas List


06 Dec 04 - 01:48 AM (#1348564)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: GUEST,Harmoni

Forgot this one:

Go Tell It On The Mountain


13 Dec 04 - 01:25 PM (#1355768)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: GUEST,jade wilson

my favorite christmas songs are
were are you christmas,
as long as thers christmas,
it feels like christmas,
little drummer boy,
rocking around the christmas tree,
12th day of christmas,
i wish it could be christmas everyday,
are you hanging up your stocking on the wall,
winter wonderland,
jingel bell rock


13 Dec 04 - 02:20 PM (#1355811)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: PoppaGator

I really like "God Rest Ye Merry Gentlemen," one of the few minor-key Christmas carols. ("O Come O Come Emmanual" is also minor, and a lovely tune, but strictly speaking it's an Advent hymn rather than a celebration of Christmas.)

I'm also very partial to "Deck the Halls," the only familar/classic carol I can think of that includes neither religious references nor any modern-secular stuff about Santa, etc. When I sing it, I feel like I am indeed "trolling" the one and only surviving "ancient Yuletide carol."

Among the religious standards, "Oh Holy Night," "Joy to the World," and "Hark the Herald Angels Sing" are among my favorites, and I, too, miss the good old Latin "Adeste Fidelis."

As a choral performance -- not something I'd try to sing myself -- there's nothing quite like "Carol of the Bells."


13 Dec 04 - 02:31 PM (#1355820)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: MMario

PappaGator - "Deck the halls" was written in the late 1800's - (the lyrics that is)


13 Dec 04 - 02:38 PM (#1355830)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: PoppaGator

Ha! Sure fooled me!

Is there any chance that the tune is at all "ancient," or that the song as a whole (lyrics/music) was somehow adapted from anything with a longer history?

I wouldn't have thought there would have been a "market" (any demand at all) for a pointedly non-Christian holiday carol anywhere in the English-speaking world in the late nineteenth century. I'm not aware of any neo-pagan movement (like today's) during that era.


13 Dec 04 - 04:28 PM (#1355912)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Mary Humphreys

The tune is Welsh - 'Nos galan', which means 'New Year's eve.' Older than the English words, certainly. I think there has been another thread on this very recently.


14 Dec 04 - 07:50 AM (#1356452)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: jaze

Cherry Tree Carol by Judy Collins


14 Dec 04 - 08:22 AM (#1356479)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: GUEST

Just finished singing a great 'Christmas Celebration' with our choir, which included "I Wonder as I Wander", which John Jacob Niles attributes to his own writing, but no-one knows if he just up & stole the credit, or whether it is one that was traditional to the Appalachians. It is very lovely though.

Also great to sing was the 15thC " Salutation Carol" here http://www.hymnsandcarolsofchristmas.com/Hymns_and_Carols/salutation_carol.htm


14 Dec 04 - 08:27 AM (#1356489)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: AggieD

Oops that was me cookieless, & the blickie went wrong.
Try again: Salutation Carol


11 Oct 12 - 02:45 PM (#3418205)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

A La Ru (Duérmete, Niño Lindo)

Missing word in verse 2, as posted by Haruo- madre.
line 3:
en los brazos de tu madre
y ahi nadie te ha ofender

This cradle song is extracted from Los Pastores, a version collected by J. D. Robb in Albuquerque, NM.


11 Oct 12 - 03:41 PM (#3418233)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Elmore

Straw Against the Wind by Bob Franke


11 Oct 12 - 03:48 PM (#3418236)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: GUEST,old git

Bill Meek and John Conolly's "I am Christmas"


11 Oct 12 - 04:05 PM (#3418241)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler

Practically any tune to "Shepherds": I'm even partial to "Winchester Old".


11 Oct 12 - 04:20 PM (#3418248)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Georgiansilver

How about a bit of this at Christmas??


11 Oct 12 - 04:28 PM (#3418253)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Artful Codger

The versions I've found of "Duérmete" all have the last line as:
y ahi nadie te ha de ofender


11 Oct 12 - 08:34 PM (#3418332)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

I left out the "de" in the last line of "Duérmete."
(I make a correction to the song and then make a mistake myself. Par for my course).


11 Oct 12 - 10:16 PM (#3418378)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: John P

Come Mad Boys, Be Glad Boys
The Woodcutters Song
Chrisimis Day


12 Oct 12 - 08:35 AM (#3418550)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Myrtle's cook

Christmas 1914 - Mike Harding

http://www.mikeharding.co.uk/books/poetry/poems/christmas-1914

A moment of hope and humanity amidst conflict - masterfully captured in song by Mike harding.


12 Oct 12 - 04:43 PM (#3418790)
Subject: Lyr Add: STANDING IN THE RAIN (Sydney Carter)
From: GUEST

My favourite by a long way:


STANDING IN THE RAIN
(Sydney Carter)

Chorus:
Standing in the rain, knocking on the window
Knocking on the window on a Christmas Day
There he is again, knocking on the window
Knocking on the window in the same old way

No use knocking on the window
There is nothing we can do, sir
All the beds are booked already
There is nothing left for you, sir

No use knocking on the window
Some are lucky, some are not, sir
We are Christian men and women
But we're keeping what we've got, sir

No we haven't got a manger
No we haven't got a stable
We are Christian men and women
Always willing, never able

Christ the Lord has gone to heaven
One day he'll be coming back, sir
In this house he will be welcome
But we hope he won't be black, sir

Not used:
Wishing you a merry Christmas
We will now go back to bed, sir
Till you woke us with your knocking
We were sleeping like the dead, sir

(as sung by The McCalmans)

I think we have Skw to thank for this

Eddie


12 Oct 12 - 05:04 PM (#3418800)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: GUEST

Hey! Without realising it, it seems that for the first time ever, I have made the magic 100!!!!!!

Eddie


13 Oct 12 - 06:43 AM (#3419065)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: banjoman

Centre of the Ages (The Christmas song) is a great one which we sing every Christmas. I can give the words if needed


13 Oct 12 - 10:26 AM (#3419164)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Murpholly

Carol carol gaily, carol on our way

Go sound the gospel trumpet that once o'er Judah's plain

Christmas Bells are ringing, ringing o'er the world triumphantly

(Words can be provided) and

Hail Smiling Morn


15 Oct 12 - 04:58 PM (#3420389)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Haruo

Ebor Fiddler wrote
Practically any tune to "Shepherds": I'm even partial to "Winchester Old".
And I'm sitting here trying to sing "Shepherds, rejoice! lift up your eyes" to WINCHESTER OLD and it's not working so well.

Wait...


15 Oct 12 - 05:19 PM (#3420403)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: GUEST,Peter from Mc2

'Miracles' by the Suffolk based singer/songwriter Paul McCartney of Mc2 fame - but then I am biased!


16 Oct 12 - 07:31 AM (#3420624)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Chris Green

My two personal faves are Veni Emmanuel and Tomorrow Shall Be My Dancing Day.

Both of which can be heard in glorious three-part harmony on (mostly) authentic instruments as part of Blast from the Past's Christmas show which will be touring England and Wales this December!


16 Oct 12 - 12:30 PM (#3420781)
Subject: Lyr Add: ADESTE FIDELES
From: Haruo

I see Mary Garvey gave some of the verses of Adeste Fideles (the ones most likely to be found in a Catholic hymnal) in Latin. There are others. Here are the seven Latin verses I am familiar with. Usually you either get the first verse plus two or three of verses 2 through 4, or else you get the first verse plus two or three of verses 5 through 7. Seems to me that the second approach is more appropriate to the "carol" application, or for a setting with a crèche, while the first approach is more appropriate to the "hymn" application, as it is more concerned with praise and theology than with wise men and shepherds.

1. Adeste fideles, læti, triumphantes, (W)
   Venite, venite in Bethlehem.
   Natum videte Regem angelorum.
       Venite adoremus, Venite adoremus,
      Venite adoremus, Dominum.

2. Deum de Deo, Lumen de Lumine, (W)
   Gestant puellae viscera,
   Deum verum, Genitum non factum.
       Venite adoremus, Venite adoremus,
      Venite adoremus, Dominum.

3. Cantet nunc "Io!" chorus angelorum; (W)
   Cantet nunc aula caelestium:
   "Gloria in excelsis Deo!"
       Venite adoremus, Venite adoremus,
      Venite adoremus, Dominum.

4. Ergo qui natus Die hodierna, (W)
   Jesu tibi sit gloria!
   Patris aeterni Verbum caro factum.
       Venite adoremus, Venite adoremus,
      Venite adoremus, Dominum.

5. En grege relicto, humiles ad cunas (B)
   Vocati pastores appropriant;
   Et nos ovanti gradu festinemus;
      Venite adoremus, Venite adoremus,
    Venite adoremus, Dominum.

6. Stella duce, Magi, Christum adorantes, (A)
   Aurum, thus et myrrham dant munera.
   Jesu infanti corda praebeamus;
      Venite adoremus, Venite adoremus,
    Venite adoremus, Dominum.

7. Pro nobis erenum et foeno cubantem, (B)
   Piis foveamus amplexibus.
   Sic nos amantem quis non redamaret?
      Venite adoremus, Venite adoremus,
    Venite adoremus, Dominum.

The letters in parentheses after the first lines indicate the probable authorship of each stanza. (W) means John Francis Wade (1711-1786), ĉ. 1743, who is now widely accepted by scholars as the author and composer of the song. These are the same stanzas that other traditions have ascribed to a variety of others, including (as mentioned in this thread) King John IV of Portugal and John Reading or Redding. (B) means the Frenchman Abbé E. Jean François de Borderies (1764-1832). (A) means Anonymous, I haven't seen an attribution.


16 Oct 12 - 01:05 PM (#3420811)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Haruo

Mary Garvey's first suggestion ("Mariam et Joseph et infantem positum in precipio") I was not familiar with. I wonder if it is the same as the one mentioned in this article in the Dutch Wikipedia (also in German and Italian, but not in English or Esperanto): Transeamus usque Bethlehem? (Note the correct spelling of "praesepio", ablative of "manger", if googling.)


    Transeamus usque Bethlehem
    et videamus hoc verbum quod factum est.
    Mariam et Joseph et Infantem positum in praesepio.

    Transeamus, audiamus multitudinem
    militiae coelestis laudantium Deum,
    Mariam et Joseph et Infantem
    positum in praesepio.

    Gloria, Gloria in Excelsis Deo.
    Gloria, Gloria et in terra pax hominibus.
    Bonae voluntatis, et in terra pax.
    Transeamus et videamus quod factum est.

The version in the German Wikipedia prefixes a recitative
Nolite timere:
ecce enim evangelizo vobis gaudium magnum, quod erit omni populo:
quia natus est vobis Salvator hodie, qui est Christus Dominus in civitate David.
Et hoc vobis signum:
Invenietis infantem pannis involutum, et positum in praesepio.
to the text, and gives
Gloria in excelsis Deo,
et in terra pax hominibus
bonae voluntatis.
as a choral refrain between the two stanzas beginning with "Transeamus".

Here is a text from CPDL.org: Transeamus usque Bethlehem, which ascribes the work to Schnabel; my impression is the Wikipedia consensus is that it is an anonymous, traditional Silesian song which Schnabel simply transcribed (and then gussied up for choral performance).

Mary, is this the text you're thinking of?

as a


16 Oct 12 - 01:06 PM (#3420813)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Haruo

That final "as a" is a relic of absent-minded cutting and pasting. Joe, feel free to edit and remove it and this post.


16 Oct 12 - 01:38 PM (#3420833)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Haruo

I really like "Chariots"


16 Oct 12 - 01:46 PM (#3420840)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Haruo

And here's a live link for those saddened by the disappearance of Geocities, taking with it Santa Claus is coming to town in Tlingit.


16 Oct 12 - 01:52 PM (#3420841)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Haruo

I'm surprised nobody has mentioned "Rise up, shepherd, and foll[er/ow]" or "Children, go where I send thee".


16 Oct 12 - 02:52 PM (#3420875)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: open mike

from some of my december radio shows:

Mary Chapin Carpenter Hot Buttered Rum 12 Songs of Christmas   
Zoe Records http://www.marychapincarpenter.com/

CHRISTMAS JUG BAD BOOGIE WOOGIE SANTA UNCORKED GLOBE               WWW.CHRISTMASJUGBAND.COM
HAYBURNERS        YOUR WINTER WEATHER        HUDSON-HARDING SAMPLER
                Http://www.hudsonharding.com/
HAYBURNERS        HOME WITH YOU                EPONYMOUS
WWW.thehayburners.com        
DENISE J. FINDLEY SOLSTICE SONG                HUDSON-HARDING SAMPLER
                Http://www.hudsonharding.com/
DAVID BOWIE/BING CROSBY        PEACE ON EARTH/LITTLE DRUMMER BOY
CHERYL BRANZ                SKATING        CHRISTMAS GIFT        TOM POSADA-RAO
                        www.cherylbranz.com
KATE CAMPBELL        DEAR LITTLE STRANGER                MY 2006 CROSSROADS SHOW RECORDING
                        http://www.katecampbell.com/
WILLIE NELSON                EL NIN~O He Is Born                "        "        "        "        "
                        http://www.willienelson.com/
REB FIRMAN                ON MY WAY                        "        "        "        "        "
                        http://cdbaby.com/cd/rebb
JACKSON BROWNE        REBEL JESUS                        "        "        "        "        "
                        http://www.jacksonbrowne.com/
STEPHANIE DAVIS        HOME FOR THE HOLIDAYS        "        "        "        "        "
                        WWW. STEPHANIEDAVIS.COM
CELTIC ELVIS                KILL A TREE FOR CHRIST                "        "        "        "        "        
                        http://www.wildplum.org/celticelvis/
COWBOY CHRISTMAS        WESTERN FOLK LIFE CENTER        "        "        "        "        "
PETE MOAK                SANTA CLAUS                FIELD RECORDING OF COWBOY POETS BY LAUREL
THE BOBS                50 KILOWATT TREE                MY 2006 CROSSROADS SHOW RECORDING
                        ttp://www.bobs.com
MANHEIM STEAMROLLER        DECK THE HALLS        FRESH AIRE        CHIP DAVIS
        "        "                HARK x 2                FRESH AIRE        CHIP DAVIS
                        http://shop.mannheimsteamroller.com/
JOHN GORKA       CHRISTMAS BELLS-LONG FELLOW         MY 2006 CROSSROADS SHOW RECORDING
                        WWW.johngorka.com
SMOKY MOUNTAIN CHRISTMAS                OVER THE RIVER AND THRU THE WOODS    INSTRU.
RALPH        STANLEY        CHRISTMAS TIME IS NEAR          A VERY SPECIAL ACOUSTIC CHRISTMAS
www.drralphstanley.com    http://www.amazon.com/Very-Special-Acoustic-Christmas/dp/B0000CAV4C        
KENNY ROGERS (?)        MARY DID YOU KNOW                MY 2006 CROSSROADS SHOW RECORDING
                        http://kennyrogers.musiccitynetworks.com/
LAUREL READING FROM FARMER'S ALMANACS
MARY CHAPIN CARPENTER        LONGEST NIGHT OF THE YEAR        12 SONGS OF CHRISTMAS
                        http://www.marychapincarpenter.com/
CHRISTMAS WITH THE CHILDREN        DECK THE HALLS        "        "        "        "        "
THE HILLS OF BETHLEHEM ARE BARE                                "        "        "        "        "
CHRISTMAS MUSIC BOX         SANTA CLAUSE IS COMIN' TO TOWN        "        "        "        "        "
Laurie Lewis and Tom Rozum / If We Make It Thru December / Winter's Grace / Spruce & Maple Music http://www.laurielewis.com
Bryan Bowers / Hard Times / For You / Flying Fish / http://www.bryanbowers.com
Laurie Lewis and Tom Rozum / The Gift / Winter's Grace / S & MM / see above
Jean Ritchie / Bird in a Cage / Clear Waters Remembered / Greenhays Records http://www.jeanritchiehome.com/
Laurie L. and Tom R. / Hot Buttered Rum / Winter's Grace / S & MM / see above
Penman Family / Feed The Children / Penman's Home Made Jam / SELF, New Zealand
L.L. & T.R. / Winter's Grace / Title Song / S & M M / see above
Connie Kaldor and BIM / Cowboy Christmas / New Songs for an Old Celebration / http://www.conniekaldor.com/ Vancouver Folk Music Festival's Aural Tradition Records
Wylie Gustafson / Christmas for Cowboys / Title song / Two Medicine Music http://www.wylieww.com/
Connie Kaldor and BIM / We're Gonna Sing / New Songs for an Old Celebration / see above
Christmas Jug Band / Carolin' / Holiday Highways / Globe Rec ords / www.christmasjugband.com/
Dar Williams / Christians and Pagans / What Do You Hear / Razor & Tie / www.darwilliams.com/




Robert Earl Keen / Christmas from the Family / The Party Never Ends /www.robertearlkeen.com/
Loudon Wainwright III / Christmas Morning / Social Studies / http://www.lwiii.com/
Janet Bates / He Was Born / Little Spinner / SELF / http://www.janetbates.com/
New World / Cowboy Carol / by Cecil Broadhurst / from You Tube
Glory of the Story / Miracle of the Wheat / Ed McGurdy / 1958 / from internet
Seamus Kennedy / Miss fogarty's Cake / Goodwill to Men / Gransha /
http://www.mcnote.com/seamus/
Jackson Browne / Rebel Jesus / with the Chieftans / http://www.jacksonbrowne.com/
Bryndle / Corn, Water, Wood / by Carol Elliot and Wendy Waldman /http://www.bryndle.com/
Myra Hess / Jesu, Joy of Man's Desiring / Bach for Christmas / Tomato Sampler / Tomato Records
Misty River / Bleak Mid-Winter / Midwinter Songs / MRCD / http://www.mistyriverband.com/
Terry Allen / X-Mas on the Isthmus / Salivation / Sugar Hill / http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_Allen_%28country_singer%29
Gretchen Peters / Careful How You Go / Northern Lights / Scarlet Letter Records http://www.gretchenpeters.com/
Willie Nelson / He Is Born / El Nin~o / http://willienelson.com/
Byrd and Street / Hope in Every Heart / Ain't no Merry / Self / http://www.byrdandstreet.com/
Mara Levine / Raise the Dead of Midwinter / Mara's Gems/ www.myspace.com/maralevine

Seamus Kennedy/Mary's Boy Child, Christmas Cake/Goodwill To Men
Gransha Records
Ken Webb / Skating / Christmas Pony
Wil Maring / Hometown Christmas, Bucky's Present / http://www.wilmaring.com/
April Verch / Christmas in the Valley / http://www.aprilverch.com/
Laurie Lewis / The Bear Song / Earth & Sky / Rounder/ www.laurielewis.com                                       
Wylie & the Wild West /Christmas for Cowboys, In The Bleak Mid Winter /Cowboy Christmas /Two Medicine Music/www.wylieww.com
Tommy Byrd, Kathy Street / Ain't No Merry in Christmas / www.byrdandstreet.com
Penman's Homemade Jam / Feed the Children /Summer 2008 / self
Dar Williams / the Christians and the Pagans / Mortal City /
Razor and Tie Records / www.darwilliams.com
Christmas Jug Band / This Christmas Night / On The Holiday Highway /Globe/          www.christmasjugband.com
Gretchen Peters / Northern Lights / title / Scarlet Letter Records /
www.gretchenpeters.com
Terry Allen / xmas on the isthmus / Salivation / Sugar Hill /
http://www.terryallenartmusic.com/
Misty River / All That I Want , Peace /Midwinter / www.mistyriverband.com
Alicia McGovern / The Holly and All/ Words Through the Seasons /
www.aliciamcGovernmusic.com
Loudon Wainwright III / Christmas Morning/ Social Studies/Hannibal
http://www.lw3.com
Readings from several Almanacs….about Solstice, lunar eclipse and meteor showers all coming up Dec. 20-21-22
Robert Earl Keen / Merry Christmas from the Family / The Party Never Ends / Sugar Hill www.robertearlkeen.com/


16 Oct 12 - 03:18 PM (#3420891)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: Haruo

"(Words can be provided) and" - please do, Murpholly!


16 Oct 12 - 04:12 PM (#3420921)
Subject: RE: List Your Favorite Folk Christmas Songs
From: GUEST,mg

That is the one all right Haruo..but I thought it was by a famous composer in some Mass for B Minor or something...it is very beautiful.

I am fond of a new to me song by George Millar of Irish Rovers..Bells over Belfast...