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What is a 'brae'

06 Dec 02 - 08:43 PM (#842734)
Subject: What is a 'brae'
From: GUEST,Calonkat

OK, my daughter is playing Annie Laurie on an old toy piano and wants to know what a "brae" is. I looked at a couple of hundred webpages and learned an amazing amount about Miss Laurie (not all of which I shared) and that everyone agrees the the braes are bonny. But I must have missed the part where someone explained what the heck they are!

If someone knows, could they please explain it to me?

Mudcat Scottish Glossary (click)


06 Dec 02 - 08:47 PM (#842736)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: Clinton Hammond

As in "Ye banks and braes o bonnie doon"?

Or as in "we two hae run about the brae, and put the gowans high"?


06 Dec 02 - 08:50 PM (#842739)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: GUEST,Calonkat

I guess as in "Maxwelton's braes are bonnie"

Maybe this isn't a song she should be singing at 11 years old :-)


06 Dec 02 - 09:04 PM (#842744)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: jimmyt

according to this old Yankee, it refers to a hillside or slope , of Scottish usage. Hope this is close TODD


06 Dec 02 - 09:05 PM (#842745)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: Uncle_DaveO

A wonderful device for finding out such things, called a dictionary!

Brae (n.) Scot & N. Eng. A slope, declivity, hillside.

Dave Oesterreich


06 Dec 02 - 09:18 PM (#842750)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: GUEST

Judging by many inquiries like this one, the dictionary is a relic of the past.


06 Dec 02 - 09:23 PM (#842753)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: GUEST,calonkat

Not usually, usually we have 3 (one unabridged) but there are nativity sets and angels in the bookcase. Thought the internet would be faster than 1)figuring out where we put those books (in all the others) 2)going to the library

Sorry for the bother...


06 Dec 02 - 09:29 PM (#842755)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: jimmyt

No bother, calonkat. Doesn't hurt a bit to answer a question. If someone wants to bitch about the bother, maybe they should not go to the trouble to respond! Have a nice Holiday season! TODD


06 Dec 02 - 09:33 PM (#842759)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: Bobert

Yeah, I've been wonderin' that myself. My Martin guitar is at the repair shop and I've been playin' a beater, a Fender la "BRAE".

Bobert


06 Dec 02 - 09:44 PM (#842765)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: John Routledge

The advantage of coming here is that you get a bit of background.

In Northern England we consider "brae" to be Scottish not English.We all know what "brae" means but never use it :0)

Perhaps in the Middle Ages when the border was more blurred....


06 Dec 02 - 10:22 PM (#842784)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: GUEST,Rosebrook

Hey! A dictionary is not a relic of the past! www.dictionary.com


06 Dec 02 - 10:50 PM (#842798)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: Sandy McLean

From the Gaelic "braighe" meaning upper slopes, higher ground.
               Sandy


06 Dec 02 - 11:53 PM (#842826)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: GUEST,Tom Hamilton

I know that a brae is a hill, slope however in Saaltcoats where I live there is an area near Saltcoats's harbour called 'The braes' and yet it is a flat as anything.
It's not even on a hill.
I can't understand that!


07 Dec 02 - 07:37 AM (#842947)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: Roger the Skiffler

An e-cup bra.

RtS
(been opening the Xmas cracker jokes early!)


07 Dec 02 - 09:11 AM (#842981)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: weepiper

It's not from Gaelic, Gaelic and English both borrowed it from the Old Norse word for 'brow' as in eyebrow etc... it refers to the shape of the hill being like a brow. There are a lot of Norse words which appear in both English and Gaelic....


07 Dec 02 - 09:36 AM (#842987)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: masato sakurai

Why are many braes bonnie?


07 Dec 02 - 09:48 AM (#842991)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: Hollowfox

I suspect that so many braes are bonny from the many happy memories of connubial companionship. *wicked grin* Or, they could have just given a nice view of the valley. Er, the surrounding landscape, that is.


07 Dec 02 - 10:05 AM (#843002)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: GUEST,daylia

Always thought "brae" was what the donkeys say.

Guess that's pretty ASS-inine!

Hmmmmmm, 'pretty ASS-inine' ....

Is that the 'nice view' you were referring to, Hollowfox?

Sorry, I'm feeling a little strange today ...

Hee-haw! - daylia


07 Dec 02 - 10:14 AM (#843003)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: Nigel Parsons

Guest Tom Hamilton: I figure that is similar to describing rolling uplands as "Downs"

Nigel


07 Dec 02 - 10:33 AM (#843011)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: jimmyt

Nigel, I guess Downs are from the uphill prospective, otherwise, they would be ups! TODD


07 Dec 02 - 11:52 AM (#843046)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: GUEST,Nick

I wonder if the area near Saltcotes is named for the view ? Would there be any Braes seen in the distance? Or could it be sarcastic? Like nameing a landfill Mt Trashmore?

Nick


07 Dec 02 - 12:03 PM (#843052)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: Joe Offer

Say...this might be a good opportunity for me to invite people to look at our QuickLinks on almost every page. One of the selections is the Scottish Glossary (click). John in Brisbane and Pene Azul did a wonderful job on it.
-Joe Offer-


07 Dec 02 - 08:22 PM (#843267)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: GUEST,Tom Hamilton from SALTCOATSS

To Nick and everyone else that reads this message please don't misspell my town 'SALTCOATS' only the Forigners spell it Saltcoates.
There is no place in Scotland called SALTCOTES' or AYRESHIRE as well.

The people of SALTCOATS are getting fed up with people who can't spell or listen.

I'm sorry about all this however it gets me angry whenever people can't spell a town, even when it's written for them.


07 Dec 02 - 08:27 PM (#843271)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: GUEST,Tom Hamitlon

I know I spelt Saaltcoats 'saaltcoats' the reason is that I'm not used to this computer typwriter thing


07 Dec 02 - 11:39 PM (#843344)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: Haruo

One little quibble about the Glossary (which is generally great): since it was (apparently) compiled by computer without human intervention, it alphabetizes all words beginning with an apostrophe before the letter a. Now I don't know how they do these things in Scotland, but in Seattle when we want to look up "'Twas" we look between tuppence and twerp, not before aardvark.

But correcting that little glitch efficiently and cost-effectively may not be a possibility. The index in the Esperanto hymnal Adoru is the same way (and it's a much bigger problem there), involving the alphabetical order of commas, apostrophes, hyphens, ....

Leland


09 Dec 02 - 05:24 AM (#843739)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: GUEST,coco

A'Brae' is a noun,also chiefly a scottish word. I believe it goes back to the 13th century..... meaning: A hillside especially alongside a loch/river. Hope this is of some help, if not keep asking?


09 Dec 02 - 06:08 AM (#843745)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: Mr Happy

around areas of cheshire & greater manchester- a small hill is often refered to as a 'brew'


09 Dec 02 - 07:37 AM (#843775)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: greg stephens

Re "put the gowans high" in an earlier post. This is gibberish. Try "pulled the gowans fine" (with pulled pronounced pu'd in the Scottish fashion). "Picked the fine daisies" in English.


09 Dec 02 - 01:21 PM (#843950)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: Don Firth

A mold-ripened, whole-milk cheese with a whitish rind and a soft, light yellow center.

Always glad to help. . . .

Don Firth


09 Dec 02 - 10:40 PM (#844275)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: GUEST,Mary Lou Ridgeway

Well, I just wandered in, using a link from "Google" on Alaister McDonald (no flack about the spelling, I'm here accidently and won't be back to see it!) whom I heard while I was in Scotland, and by the time I finished this thread, you guys have me flat on the floor, kicking my heels up in the air. I was laughing so hard, I couldn't catch my breath. I just hope I don't wake up my poor husband. He'll send me to the looney bin for sure!

Excuse me while I go rub my rock from "Scara Brae".

Mary Lou


10 Dec 02 - 01:40 AM (#844336)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: Boab

Gin ye're stannin i' the biel o' a knowe, an' rinnin yer e'en frae the laight a' the wey tae the hiegh, ye're rinnin yer e'en up a brae [or doon a brae if ye stert frae the hiegh---och...this is waur nor yon auld yin aboot "mud" ; glaur, glauber or drookit stoor.] Aye---a merry CHRISTMAS, an' a guid New Year tae yez a'. I'll be in the Auld Country by Thursday. All the best!


10 Dec 02 - 05:26 AM (#844387)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: Wilfried Schaum

Masato - Try to lay a wee lass on a brae, and you will know why they are mostly bonnie. probatum est.
Wilfried


10 Dec 02 - 06:27 AM (#844401)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: greg stephens

Go for it, masato. Your standard brae is normally well-provided with bracken, broom and other appropriate vegetation which provides excellent cover for any country pursuits that grab your fancy.


10 Dec 02 - 12:45 PM (#844668)
Subject: RE: What is a 'brae'
From: GUEST,parahandy

Hmm, I hope Mary Lou was joinkg about the rock from Skara Brae! Otherwise I will have to set the "Leave Only Footprints, Take Only Pictures Police" on her!