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19 Dec 02 - 12:26 PM (#850452) Subject: BS: X-Mas Request From: Keital Dear Fellow 'Catters, I've just learned how to wish someone Merry Christmas in Irish and Welsh, but I'm not sure of the pronunciations. Is there anyone out there that can help me? The tranlations that I have are as follows and if they are wrong maybe you could give me the correct versions as well: Irish: "Nodlaig mhaith chugnot." Welsh: "Nadolig Llawen." Thanks a bunch and have a Great Holiday season! Lift a tankard of Glug for me!! |
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19 Dec 02 - 01:17 PM (#850499) Subject: RE: BS: X-Mas Request From: Keital Come on, now, you guys! Is someone gonna help me or am I just whistlin' Dixie here!! Give a poor old one-eyed Viking |
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19 Dec 02 - 01:22 PM (#850506) Subject: RE: BS: X-Mas Request From: Keital NORMAN DOGS CUT ME OFF!!!!! |
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19 Dec 02 - 01:23 PM (#850507) Subject: RE: BS: X-Mas Request From: Dead Horse Don't know the Irish, but the Welsh goes *Nadolig Llawen*. Hope this helps. |
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19 Dec 02 - 01:36 PM (#850521) Subject: RE: BS: X-Mas Request From: GUEST Irish is Nollaig Shona. |
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19 Dec 02 - 01:49 PM (#850535) Subject: RE: BS: X-Mas Request From: Keital Thanks, for the help, however, what I need is how to pronounce what I've got. Keep it coming! Thanks again! |
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19 Dec 02 - 04:44 PM (#850661) Subject: RE: BS: X-Mas Request - Irish & Welsh pronunciations From: Nigel Parsons Nadolig Llawen: Na (as in Na t King Cole) dol (as in Doll) ig (as in igloo) [So far, so easy!) Ll (this is the difficult bit! The initial letter 'Ll' is pronounced by placing the tongue against the roof of the mouth and then exhaling both above and below the tongue whilst bringing the tongue down to its ususal position just touching the back of the lower teeth. Keeping the mouth open throughout) aw (pronounced 'Ow' as in 'that hurts') en (pronounced as in hen or ten). All together, Nadolig Llawen, a Blwyddyn Newydd Dda (and a happy new year) Nigel |
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19 Dec 02 - 05:15 PM (#850675) Subject: RE: BS: X-Mas Request - Irish & Welsh pronunciations From: GUEST For information on the Irish try here: http://www.faqs.org/faqs/cultures/irish-faq/part03/ Nollaig is the word for both Christmas and the month December, and sona/shona is the word for happy, as Gaeilge. The first is pronounced (roughly approximating here) "no lug" and the latter "h-yun-a" with "yun" rhyming with English "run" but you barely pronounce the "y". I'm sure a native speaker could describe the pronunciation better than I. "Nollaig Shona" is the generic greeting, such as you would find on a Christmas card. If you are addressing people...it gets a bit more complicated, depending upon how many people you are addressing, how you want to address them (ie formally or informally, etc.) Considering your limited command of the language, I'd definitely stick with the generic form. It's just easier for everyone that way. |
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20 Dec 02 - 05:32 AM (#851000) Subject: RE: BS: X-Mas Request - Irish & Welsh pronunciations From: Declan Pronounciations vary from region to region but Nollag Shona Dhuit (Nuh-lug Hun-nah gwit) in the singular and Nollag Shona Dhaoibh (Nuh-lug hun-nah gweeve (or maybe yeeve)) in the plural. Or if you're feeling particularly brave try Nollag faoi shéan agus faoi mhaise (nuh-lug fwee hayne ogg-gus fwee wash-sha) which means a peaceful and (faoi mhaise translates as blessed or prosperous) Christmas. Nollaig Faoi shéan agus ath bhlian faoi mhaise do gach éinne ar an Mhudcat ó Deaglán. Go meirimíd beó ag an am seo arís. (I'm not doing phonetics for that but it means a Peaceful Christmas and a prosperous New Year to everyone on Mudcat from Declan. May we all be alive at this time again.) |
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20 Dec 02 - 09:28 AM (#851102) Subject: RE: BS: X-Mas Request - Irish & Welsh pronunciations From: Keital Dear 'Cats, Thanks to everyone who responded to my request. I never doubt that I'll get the answers I'm looking for when I post at the Cafe. God jul og godt nytt aat, Keital |
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20 Dec 02 - 04:11 PM (#851335) Subject: RE: BS: X-Mas Request - Irish & Welsh pronunciations From: GUEST,david it's nice to see people taking the trouble to pronounce welsh words properly.keep it up.hwyl nawr.david |