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26 Feb 03 - 05:30 PM (#899466) Subject: HMS SOAK-HELP ME WITH THIS PLEASE From: GUEST,SKIPPY Together we can sort this! I have recently found a pewter tankard in a skip (no surprise there then!) It is engraved thus :- PRESENTED TO LT. CMDR. SIR M. ROSE.K.S. O.C.O. S.S. FROM CAPT.AND CREW H.M.S. SOAK "UP PERISCOPES" There is no "S" class sub. called "soak" - not a surprise. Lt cmdr Rose not listed anywhere in RN records or found by any search engine? My mate "Salty Sea Dog" has never heard the term before. So what is this all about them? Look fwd. to solving this Regards Skippy |
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26 Feb 03 - 05:36 PM (#899473) Subject: RE: HMS SOAK-HELP ME WITH THIS PLEASE From: GUEST,Skippy Sorry about the "Shouting" accident Skippy |
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26 Feb 03 - 06:17 PM (#899506) Subject: RE: HMS SOAK-HELP ME WITH THIS PLEASE From: Les from Hull My first thought is that this is a nickname for an RN ship. As Lt Commander Rose was not in command, but there is a captain it suggests that the vessel is larger than a submarine (or possibly a nuclear sub). Could it be a joke presentation for Commander Rose (possibly deriding his spotting a 'periscope'). A presentation on leaving the ship might be a bit more substantial. I'm pretty sure that there was never an HMS Soak, but I'll check my sources for you. What's all that lettuce after his name - that sounds like part of the joke. |
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26 Feb 03 - 06:39 PM (#899529) Subject: RE: HMS SOAK-HELP ME WITH THIS PLEASE From: katlaughing Could it have been a prop for some kind of dramatic play or somesuch? |
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26 Feb 03 - 06:41 PM (#899533) Subject: RE: HMS SOAK-HELP ME WITH THIS PLEASE From: GUEST,Skippy Agree with all of your thoughts Les. Not a nuclear sub. the tankard has the feel & patina of 1940/50s, sorry should have given that last fact in the original. I suspect as you do that this is a "wind up" - but I would like to get to the bottom of it, if I can then the tankard and the story can be returned to the ship in question or to a suitable museum (after I have a had a few pints out of it at a few suitable festivals. Rgards Skippy |
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26 Feb 03 - 06:45 PM (#899536) Subject: RE: HMS SOAK-HELP ME WITH THIS PLEASE From: GUEST,Skippy Thanks Katlaughing Could be a prop - but no one would see the engraving, however there could have been a need during a play for someone to be seen to read the inscription. Regards Skippy |
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26 Feb 03 - 06:50 PM (#899540) Subject: RE: HMS SOAK-HELP ME WITH THIS PLEASE From: catspaw49 Some group's insider joke about a someone with an erection in the bath tub? Spaw |
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27 Feb 03 - 12:40 AM (#899575) Subject: RE: HMS SOAK-HELP ME WITH THIS PLEASE From: Devilmaster I posted an email to Tom Lewis, perhaps he can help. Steve |
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27 Feb 03 - 12:28 PM (#899766) Subject: RE: HMS SOAK-HELP ME WITH THIS PLEASE From: GUEST,Skippy Thanks for that Devilmaster. |
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27 Feb 03 - 12:36 PM (#899776) Subject: RE: HMS SOAK-HELP ME WITH THIS PLEASE From: Charley Noble Seems to me this is a typical jovial presentation to someone leaving ship, or some nautical post. The "Up Periscopes" expression to me ties in with that interpretation; it literally means looking forward to what's ahead (on the surface while still submerged). Be curious what Tom comes up with. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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27 Feb 03 - 06:45 PM (#900073) Subject: RE: HMS SOAK-HELP ME WITH THIS PLEASE From: Crane Driver Sounds to me like a "joke" presentation - I imagine young Lt Rose in charge of the ship's boat taking the crew into harbour, then by a feat of lousy seamanship, filling the whole thing with water. "Up Periscopes" they cry, as "HMS Soak" vanishes under the waves. OK, so I've got an overactive imagination. But if he'd managed to Soak a Captain, or better yet, a Commodore, perhaps it would have been worth a commemoration. We'll probably never know. Andrew |
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21 Jul 11 - 03:44 PM (#3192162) Subject: RE: HMS SOAK-HELP ME WITH THIS PLEASE From: GUEST,Roy HMS Soak was a fictional submarine invented by members of the corporals club at RAF Jever in 1956/7 al members carried a rank and the whole thing was based on Carlsberg Lager, You were sworn in holding a bottle of the stuff. Th Captain would declare a cruise, that would be the start of a major drinking day, The day would consist of a cricket match with bottles of Carlsberg as wickets. Should any member offend the Captain they then faced a Court Marshal if guilty, the fine was a set number of bottles of Carleberg. Medals were awarded for various drinking feats,the medals were placed over the bar at Dirty dicks pub near Liverpool Street station on return to the UK. I wonder if any former members will ever read this,Roy |
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21 Jul 11 - 03:55 PM (#3192171) Subject: RE: HMS SOAK-HELP ME WITH THIS PLEASE From: maeve Wow! Thanks, guest, Roy. There's no telling who might see your post; after all, you came upon the thread 8 years after the last post. I'll let Skippy know you stopped by. |
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21 Jul 11 - 06:37 PM (#3192255) Subject: RE: HMS SOAK-help me with this, please From: JohnInKansas Just hope that Skippy still has the tankard. I sounds to me like the Good Ship Soak deserves at least a granite monument in a place of some appropriate status, and the tankard would make a great topknot for a spire. So far as I can recall, my first sight of this thread was today, but my thought was "Drinking Club" at the second post. Such fictional boats (ships), airplanes, and the like were not particularly rare among the "frat rats" I associated with some at (US) Universities, although none that I was aware of had a closely similar name. That they played cricket is admirable, as the clubs of the ilk that I heard of apparently did nothing much other than drink (and make rude noises after). John |
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21 Jul 11 - 08:13 PM (#3192311) Subject: RE: HMS SOAK-help me with this, please From: Charley Noble Roy- Thanks for letting us in on this salty special event. I do hope the original poster, Skippy, check in on his thread. All questions are ultimately answered on Mudcat, although sometimes it's taken over ten years. Charley Noble |
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22 Jul 11 - 03:52 AM (#3192461) Subject: RE: HMS SOAK-help me with this, please From: My guru always said How lovely to read this question answered, many thanks Guest Roy! Guest Skippy, is now a member as Skipy, so I shall PM him. |
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22 Jul 11 - 05:44 AM (#3192495) Subject: RE: HMS SOAK-help me with this, please From: Leadfingers The RAF has always had a 'tradition' of drinking clubs , often based on one Squadron - 205 Sqdn in Singapore in the late sixties had an enviable record as such , but withh postings , there were fewer active actual squadron members , and it became Changi Pigs Association . I was NEVER a member !!! |
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22 Jul 11 - 12:30 PM (#3192784) Subject: RE: HMS SOAK-help me with this, please From: skipy Fantastic! Took a few years, but I KNEW "the cat" would crack it! Turns out RAF Jever was 118 Hunters & 2 (FR) Swifts. I will do some more research & the tankard will go to the RAF Museum. Glad it turned out to be RAF as I "did" a mere 26 years myself! Thank you to those who sent me a PM. Hope "GUEST Roy" gets back to me, he can E me on:- kateanddaveg@aol.com |
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22 Jul 11 - 01:34 PM (#3192835) Subject: RE: HMS SOAK-help me with this, please From: Charley Noble Love to see an old thread wrapped up like this, ship shape and Bristol fashion. Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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24 Jul 11 - 05:06 PM (#3194496) Subject: RE: HMS SOAK-help me with this, please From: skipy Just to keep you guys "up to speed" I am now in contact with GUEST Roy & he is going to put together all that he can remember so that as much info. as poss. can go to the RAF Museum along with the tankard. By the way:- on the original post I typed my name wrong! I am Skipy not Skippy. Skipy |
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24 Jul 11 - 05:14 PM (#3194501) Subject: RE: HMS SOAK-help me with this, please From: My guru always said Fabulous, well done Dave! |
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24 Jul 11 - 05:28 PM (#3194510) Subject: RE: HMS SOAK-help me with this, please From: maeve What a good example of what Mudcat can help achieve...in addition to all of the wonderful music information. Thanks, Max. Good for you, Skipy! |
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06 Sep 11 - 02:10 PM (#3219085) Subject: RE: HMS SOAK-help me with this, please From: skipy Now got a page of details about HMS Soak at RAF Jever Germany, late 50s. Also formed a facebook group incase anyone types "HMS Soak" into google of facebook. Might find an old mate of Roys! Skipy |
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15 Sep 11 - 03:26 PM (#3223735) Subject: RE: HMS SOAK-help me with this, please From: Dave Earl Just by way of an aside . When I was left school I had a job (not much of a job) in the City and used to travel in by train to Liverpool Street. From time to time I'd be dragged (kicking and screaming of course)into Dirty Dicks for a pint or two before getting the train home. There were all sorts of mementos and stuff hanging from the ceiling and on the walls. I don't think the drinking school mentioned here can have bee the onlt such recorded at Dirty D's. My father had a pie smokers pen knife stamped "Dirty Dicks" which he probably got from there. BTW it was still there a few years ago when I happened to be up that way. Dave |