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08 Apr 03 - 08:03 AM (#928557) Subject: BS: How does one change a surname? From: the lemonade lady Just as a matter of interest, if one does not like their surname and would like to change it how does one go about doing so? I suggested to members of the Bothy Song Club the other night that they might like to suggest another name for me. My name is Sally and someone came up with 'Du Lalle' (with an accent above the 'e' but I don't know how to do that!) Any more suggestions? Sal |
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08 Apr 03 - 08:20 AM (#928563) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: GUEST,Bystander I must warn Sally that the word 'Du-Lally' or it's longer version, 'Du-Lally-Tat' is old cockney rhyming slang used to describe someone who was a few pence short of a shilling! |
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08 Apr 03 - 08:29 AM (#928568) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: catspaw49 Well she's Du Lally Sally Hangin' out in the alley And she'll dally with your lolly For a buck or two. Du Lally Sally don't keep no tally She'll do you twice And your buddy too. Sorry......I dunno' what the procedure is in the UK, but in the states it's a petition for name change that goes before a probate judge for approval. Afterwards you must change other records as well including Social Security and the like. Ya' gotta' really hate your name to do it I guess and I've rarely seen the point. Personally, I went to school with a girl who should have changed her name and never did......Sharon Peters.....sounds like a bathroom game....... Spaw |
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08 Apr 03 - 08:44 AM (#928575) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: kendall There is a dentist here whose name is Peter Swallow. No way would I put up with that |
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08 Apr 03 - 08:57 AM (#928584) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: GUEST I think it goes something like .... you can call yourself whatever you like for most purposes, but for certain legal documents you have to use your real name. But it used to be only about 25 quid to change your name by deedpole (not sure if thats one word or two). How the devil you ever settle on a name to change to though....... |
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08 Apr 03 - 09:00 AM (#928586) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: GUEST,Bagpuss According to this Deed poll website : "Any citizen of the United Kingdom aged 16 years and over can change their name to any name they choose simply by using their new name. This is known as changing your name by usage. With few exceptions, you can have whatever name you choose so long as you are not changing your name for fraudulent purposes or to avoid an obligation. Furthermore, there are no restrictions on how often you can change your name. However, if you change your name by usage, you will encounter difficulties when trying to get certain documents and records changed since government departments such as the Passport Office, Inland Revenue and DVLA - and many companies and organisations - will ask you for "documentary evidence" that you have changed your name. Documentary evidence is a term used to describe a document that will be accepted to effect a change of name. Such documents are: Marriage certificate (allows a women to change her surname to that of her husband). Decree absolute certificate (usually allows a divorcee to revert to her maiden name). Death certificate (allows a widow to revert to her maiden name). Adoption order (allows an adopted child to change his/her surname to the adopted family's surname). To change your name for any other reason than above, you need a document that provides evidence that you have changed your name. A Deed Poll is such a document and it will ensure that you get all your documents and records changed to show your new name without any problems or delays." You can also do it by "statutory declaration" but as this involves lawyers, it will probably cost you more than the £39 it costs to do it by deed poll (on the site above - I dont know if that is a standard cost or if it varies. Enough of the boring info - did you hear about the bloke who changed his name to "Yorkshire Bank plc are Fascist Bastards" - and when he closed his account with them, they had to make out the cheque to him in that name! Bagpuss |
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08 Apr 03 - 09:05 AM (#928590) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Beccy Over here stateside, you can function with a name different than your legal one as long as you use your legal name on important documents. It's a bit confusing, but it's less of a commitment to a new surname than going through the legal rigamarole (Think Martin (Estevez) Sheen...) I must say that it was pretty easy to adopt my husband's surname when we married. So I suppose it's not too involved when you're doing it for the heck of it. Beccy |
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08 Apr 03 - 09:23 AM (#928597) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Snuffy Sally Forth? Sally Nation? Sally Vating? Sally Ahmé? Sally Dressing? Sally Goround-Themoon? Sally Port? Sally Gardens? Or are you planning to become Mrs Grapefruit, MrsTangerine, Mrs Lime, Mrs Satsuma, etc? |
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08 Apr 03 - 09:25 AM (#928601) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Snuffy Ooops. Of course I mean Ms. WassaiL! V |
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08 Apr 03 - 10:02 AM (#928623) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Stilly River Sage A coworker of mine recently changed his name (he and his brother both changed their last names from Schnitzius to Stone). It was a matter of simplification, and I think they took their papers to a judge and had them signed. I don't know how much it cost. For a few years I hyphenated my husband's (now ex) name onto mine, but it was an exercise in frustration when southerners saw the hyphen. They dropped my last name, turning it into a middle initial, and used his and tacked on a Mrs. This Ms had to revert back to her own name. Since it was always my name, I just reclaimed it. Took my birth certificate to the Social Security office, and once the new card was in hand (very easy and quick) I proceeded to the driver's licence office. With those two cards the rest was easy. At the divorce was another opportunity, and I nearly accidentally dropped my middle name, which I don't use because I'm not particularly fond of it. If I had signed the papers without it that would have been my legal name sans the middle name. I heard my mother's voice saying to "keep the name," so I signed it on those papers. And the attorney and the judge each took a handful of pages and we scribbled it in on all of the occasions where it needed to appear. SRS |
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08 Apr 03 - 10:09 AM (#928631) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Rick Fielding Hi Sally...Oops, I mean Mrs. Lemon (I don't know you well enough to be that informal!!) Back in the ancient days of history, I thought very seriously of changing my name. Somehow "Richard Fielding" just sounded like some dull Barrister or accountant, and no matter how many variations I used with the first name (Dick, Rich, Rick, Ricky, even Eric) it still sucked. Someone suggested I go with "Dickie Fielding," but it struck me that with that monicker, I'd need a wooden dummy along with the guitar "IT's Dickie Fielding and his little buddy "Woodie"! I considered (honestly) "Kent St.Clair", but I'm not gay so I dropped that one quickly. I loved and played a lot of blues, so I thought about nicknames like "Papa", "Ramblin", and "Hard Luck". No way though. "Papa" sounds like you're braggin' about your sexual prowess, and I was a little too average for that......."Ramblin" implies you do a lot of hitch-hikin' and sleeping rough, but I've been driving a car since the age of 16, so that seemed a bit pretentious. Now "Hard Luck" Fielding would have been all right, except that eventually people would have discovered that my parents sent me to a Private (in Britain, 'public') school for 'discipline' reasons, and that I've never missed a meal in my life! Nope.....always figured that folks like Gordon Lightfoot, Patsy Cline, and Dolly Parton just got lucky with their names. How 'bout considering OTHER fruits and vegetables? Sally Avocado Sally Lime (sounds spy-like!) Sally Carrot (don't you folks have a comedian named "carrot"?) Cheers, and have fun Rick |
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08 Apr 03 - 10:16 AM (#928636) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: GUEST,Bagpuss We have a Jasper Carrott (real name Bob/Robert Davies). But its debatable whether he is a comedian... |
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08 Apr 03 - 10:28 AM (#928648) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Stilly River Sage Carrot Top? (This page plays a noisy greeting.) |
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08 Apr 03 - 10:31 AM (#928652) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: McGrath of Harlow Of course you could try other fruit or veg, if the problem is that you feel the lemon sounds a bit sharp - Sally Aubergine has a good ring to it, maybe. |
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08 Apr 03 - 10:31 AM (#928653) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: katlaughing Sally Andro Sally d'Angelo Sally Forth (there's a cartoon by that name over here..good woman role model!) Sally d'Addario Sally Mellow (I know someone with that last name!) Sally Savada Sally von Bingen Sally Tolpuddle **bg** just trying to figure out a quaint UK place name to use! What are some favourite places? Might use one of them, i.e. Sally Yorkshire, Darby Sally, Sally Derry..hmmmm maybe I should become Kat Colorado!?**BG** Have fun! |
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08 Apr 03 - 10:41 AM (#928659) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: catspaw49 Gee kat, another name change? Didn't you just become Kat LaFreedom? Spaw |
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08 Apr 03 - 11:20 AM (#928685) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: GUEST US law and , I think, British as well, allows a person to call themself whatever they please, as long as it's not used to violate the law. Of course, official agencies refuse to co-operate. |
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08 Apr 03 - 11:22 AM (#928686) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Bill D one way is to simply go through lists of people you admire, living OR dead, and find one that 'fits' you. Practice writing it, think of all the nickmanes it could generate...and begin... Man in court: "Judge, I'm tired of my name...I want to change it." Judge" So, waht is your name?" Man in court: "Harold T. VonBlooperstein Judge: "Well, I can ceratainly see your problem. What would you like to change it to?" Man in court: " Ralph T. VonBlooperstein" |
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08 Apr 03 - 11:51 AM (#928714) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: GUEST Sally Mellow is nice! |
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08 Apr 03 - 11:56 AM (#928716) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: the lemonade lady Bill D:Now that made me laugh. Kat: I actually like some of those! Rick: I quite like Sally Lime Catspaw: Well she's Du Lally Sally, Hangin' out in the alley, And she'll dally with your lolly... #>8-D Snuffy: All of those are good...I heard someone say on Kids TV this morning 'May the 4th be with you'...Sally Forth. Steve suggested Sally Brown, as in some shanty songs. #8-D Rick: Please feel at ease calling me Sally.Your name is fine, why change that. My surname is Vowles (pronouncing the 'ow' as in ouch!)I have to spell it out all the time when ording things on the phone etc. People mispronounce it because it's too close to 'bowles', they find it embarassing. It is my married name and I'm in the process of getting divorced so I have a choice. I do feel changing it might be disloyal to my children tho', well, my boy anyway. My maiden name was Stamford, but that was always being mis-spelled. Keep dishing 'em out, there might be a free lemonade for the one who comes up with a winner! Sal |
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08 Apr 03 - 12:30 PM (#928745) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Micca there is of course Sally Willow as in (Salix) Avoid the Du Lally as proposed by "bystander", it derives from the large holding camp at Deolali near Bombay where "time served " soldiers waited (sometimes for many months) until a troopship with space to bring them home arrived and as they had no duties above the basic routine they were very bored and ocasionally went crazy, this was called "Deolali tap" which was "folk processed" into a synonym for crazy in Blighty |
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08 Apr 03 - 12:40 PM (#928751) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: katlaughing Glad you like some of them, Sally! Here's that cartoon: Sally Forth. A few more: Sally Somanna Sally Fontaine Sally Ford (just drop the Stam) Sally Deare/Deere Sally Cameron (unless you have highlander in your ancestry:-) Sally McKee Sally McGrew Sally McTavish (I really like that one!) Sally Slayer :-) Sally Spence Sally Pence (just brainstorming here!) Sally Quincy Sally Oldham Sally Starr (look out Ringo!) Sally Port (did someone already say that?Haha!) Sally Marlowe Sally Merlot (**bg**) Sally Sultana Sally Rand You've got to see this!! Sally Benbow Sally Debeque Sally Duchesne (over here we pronounce it dew-shane) Sally Dubois Sally Langtry That ought a keep you going for a bit! Haha! Spaw, I thought I was just Spiffy Kat now? When did I get LaFreedom??**BG** |
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08 Apr 03 - 03:01 PM (#928856) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: gnomad With the lemon connection might you be Sally Vating? |
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08 Apr 03 - 03:14 PM (#928865) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: GUEST,Guest ET Well, the best way to find out if you like a name, I am told, is to go out and yell it to the back "forty" as if you're calling someone in to supper. The story goes that the new mother was going to call her son "Deuteronomy" until so advised by her wise mother-in-law. So after tongue-twisting at the back door, she ended up calling him "Jimmy". You know you're still going to have to spell it some times. But how about the obvious - Sally "Free"? Uplifting but simple - and if you are paying attention, it makes you smile every time you say it. Elaine |
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08 Apr 03 - 04:42 PM (#928929) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Tig I changed my surname before I had FC by statutory declaration signed by a solicitor. You can get a sample one from the Citizens Advice Bureau. |
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08 Apr 03 - 05:58 PM (#928984) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Rapparee Nobody's suggested Sally N. De Allee.... |
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08 Apr 03 - 07:47 PM (#929081) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Stilly River Sage Sally Rand with her bubble dance was a very popular performer in Fort Worth at the old Casa Mañana. Thanks for the link! SRS |
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08 Apr 03 - 07:49 PM (#929087) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: katlaughing You're welcome! Wasn't she pretty?! Quite saucy, too, it's looks! |
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08 Apr 03 - 07:55 PM (#929090) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: InOBU Sally Penflagnon Heffnernsnoggle ... and however anyone prounouces it back at you, repete it... good luck, cheers Larry |
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08 Apr 03 - 08:04 PM (#929099) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Snuffy Not Sally Free And Easy, then? :-))))) |
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08 Apr 03 - 09:42 PM (#929144) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Stilly River Sage I don't know beyond her photos--it's way before my time! |
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08 Apr 03 - 10:57 PM (#929173) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Bee-dubya-ell Yes, you can use any name you please without the necesssity of a legal name change, but if you are going to do business under that name (ie if people are going to make checks out to your "stage name") you need to fill out a "fictitious name" or "dba" (short for "doing business as") declaration at your bank. Otherwise, you can't deposit or cash the checks. Businesses do it all the time. Many businesses in the U.S. are doing business under a name different from their legal name, particularly in cases where a business has changed hands but the new owners want to keep the old name. Bruce |
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09 Apr 03 - 12:39 AM (#929223) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: katlaughing Well, me, too, SRS! I only found out about her, today, when I found that link. |
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09 Apr 03 - 06:44 AM (#929354) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Micca has no one suggested Sally Citron? |
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09 Apr 03 - 08:08 AM (#929405) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Grab Easiest one I can think of would be "Vows". Or you could change it to "Vowels" so that the pronunciation is clear, but that would look a bit silly ("... and her boyfriend Jack Consonant..." ;-) Or you could just accept that people will mispronounce it, and think of your name pronounced as "Vohls" instead of "Vowels". "Coh-lin" Powell is an obvious example of that, since his name was pronounced with a short "o" until his family moved to the US and found that Americans say the name "Colin" differently. Graham. |
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09 Apr 03 - 08:35 AM (#929424) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: HuwG How about Sally Cyclic-Acid ? That's "aspirin" . |
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09 Apr 03 - 10:07 AM (#929507) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: katlaughing But, Graham, most Americans I know, pronounce it differently than Powell. I've had a few years experience with it, since my son, Colin (Caw-lin) is just turning 33!**bg** So, Sally....any decision, yet? Howsabout SouixCity Sal? Instead of Sue?**bg** |
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09 Apr 03 - 10:08 AM (#929509) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Dave Bryant I always thought that the main reason for many soldiers going crazy at Deolali was that it was also the holding camp for many new recruits who were not aclimatised to India and were therefore likely to suffer from sun and heat stroke. There was also a sanitorium there, where serving soldiers who had mental problems were sent. |
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09 Apr 03 - 01:28 PM (#929677) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Micca Dave, as I understand it new arrivals were usually dispersed to their Units pretty quickly and not held at Deolali, but there was a large Military Hospital there that had a mental Hospital attached, as you rightly pointed out. However the sitting with not much to do while waiting to get home was reckoned to be very wearing on the patience of the ordinary soldier, Like being in a Prison camp. |
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09 Apr 03 - 01:41 PM (#929688) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Kim C SRS, which southerners do you mean? Here in Nashville the hyphenated last name is pretty common. My maiden name was Feathers. (no I am not making this up) You would think that everyone knows how to spell "feathers" but trust me, they don't. And Caudell? Ha. It's only got 7 letters but people manage to screw that up too. I think I'd like to be one of those one-name people. "Athena" has a nice ring to it. :-) |
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09 Apr 03 - 10:50 PM (#930130) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: GUEST,Ely My mother's maiden name was Salmon (yes, just like the fish). My brother's name is Carl, and his girlfriend's name is Karlsson--her family (who are, obviously, Scandinavian) think he should take her name if they marry. My first name is "Alethea" (Ah LEH thee ah), which doesn't go well with most last names, so I guess if I ever do get married I'll have to be choosy ;). |
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10 Apr 03 - 05:34 AM (#930285) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Gurney All those fruits... If my name was Sally Lemon (which Heaven forfend, I'm not that gender) I'd just spell it Lemman. Does that ring your bell? Lemman/lemane is old English for lover/dear beloved person/mistress. |
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10 Apr 03 - 06:08 AM (#930305) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: the lemonade lady Woo Hoo ... wow, have I enjoyed reading and looking at these. Do you think Sally Rand's name was used to describe feeling 'Randy'? I know it's a boy's (?) name in the States, but over here...!!! I'm thinking about Sally Vee at the moment. Sal |
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10 Apr 03 - 06:17 AM (#930308) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Micca How about Sally Citron Vee? you could then sign your self Sally C. Vee |
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10 Apr 03 - 08:42 AM (#930352) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: the lemonade lady *#8-) v.g. |
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10 Apr 03 - 01:58 PM (#930541) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: open mike acetylsalicylic acid is from the origin of the ingredient.. willow bark was used in ancient tomes for fever and headache Salix is the name for the Genus of willow tree. the weeping willow is Salix Babylonica |
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10 Apr 03 - 02:05 PM (#930545) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: katlaughing Oh, I love it...Sally Babylon!!! |
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10 Apr 03 - 02:36 PM (#930564) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: GUEST,Q Why not a good old-fashioned name like Sally Goodin? Hole in the pie, hole in the puddin', Hole in the gal they call Sally Goodin. (And other verses in Randolph, "Roll Me in Your Arms") |
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10 Apr 03 - 04:35 PM (#930639) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Grab Wierd, kat. I remember hearing that about his name, but I'm damned if I can put a source to it now (and Google isn't telling ;-) so I guess I'm probably peddling some urban legend. Ho hum. Graham. |
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10 Apr 03 - 04:53 PM (#930649) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: GUEST,Q More thread wander. Colin generally pronounced Coal-in here in western Canada. The way a Scots friend of mine also pronounces it. Cawlin often heard in the States, but dunno which is the more common pronunciation. There has been a thread on this one before. |
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10 Apr 03 - 06:32 PM (#930722) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: katlaughing Here's a whole thread on How to pronounce Colin |
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11 Apr 03 - 06:33 AM (#930993) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Trevor You can't call yourself Sally Lime. How would that look on a name card with just your initial and surname? I used to work with somebody called Rosemary Soul - she had the same problem. |
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11 Apr 03 - 07:32 AM (#931007) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname?- An aside, From: The Walrus Re- Deolali, The big problem with Deolali camp was that there was a 'trooping season'. Before the Great War, if a soldier became 'time expired' while serving overseas (that is, East of Suez), he was retained with the colours for an additional year (see: 'Old Soldier Sahib' by Frank Richards), at the end of that period, he was posted to a holding camp, (in this case Deolali), awaiting transport home for final discharge at his home depot, the extra time being deducted from his reserve obligation. If the date of the soldier's discharge from service 'with the colours' fell a week after the end of the trooping season and if the Regiment was einefficient, slow at processing the paperwork, or if someone just 'slipped up' - or if the swaddie in question was a trouble maker - it was possible for a man to wait almost six months at Deolali. Walrus |
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11 Apr 03 - 07:39 AM (#931012) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: The Walrus Kim C, "...And Caudell? Ha. It's only got 7 letters but people manage to screw that up too..." My surname is May, three letters, how difficult is that? I've had Mae, Maye, Mey, Mayes, Made/Maid (I can't remember which), Maine, Mayo (where tht one came from, I don't know), Hay, Hayes. Regards Walrus |
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11 Apr 03 - 09:09 AM (#931063) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: catspaw49 Sorry kat, but Sally Babylon sounds like a hooker........... Why not go root hog or die on the whole thing and become Geraldine Jablonski but pronounce it as Jane Doe? That would certainly be different. Spaw |
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11 Apr 03 - 11:16 AM (#931163) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: the lemonade lady Trev: I've read that thru' at all angels and I don't get it... der! Sal |
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11 Apr 03 - 11:35 AM (#931181) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Trevor S.Lime, R.Soul! Loses something when you have to explain dunnit? |
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11 Apr 03 - 12:55 PM (#931241) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: the lemonade lady Hmmm...thank you Sir. I'll bare it in mind. Still toying with the name Sally Vee. |
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13 Apr 03 - 09:28 AM (#932330) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: the lemonade lady Hmmm... Sally, Lucy, Ann Vee = S.L.A.Vee ... Oh dear! It's not easy is it. |
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14 Apr 03 - 06:41 AM (#932949) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Mr Red Er don't go for anything starting with P or C, G, K, Q, T or X and B, Y & M are none too clever either. My mother contemplated this years ago - she married a second time which was a big mistake and while the courts argued if an anullment or divorce was appropriate she found you can have any alias you wish as long as you do not defraud anyone by so doing. Once you use an alias for social security purposes the fraud rule is in play, and how do you get a new NI number except by opting to go through official channels? Anyway Ms Lemon, you have already changed from Mrs Lemon, is this an annual event or a changeable feast? Melon is an anagram of lemon, and they are juicy too! |
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15 Apr 03 - 05:37 AM (#933775) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: fogie One of my old aquaintances now decd. married a man called Payne. She must have been in love- her Christian names were Constance Mona ! True |
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15 Apr 03 - 06:21 AM (#933792) Subject: RE: BS: How does one change a surname? From: Gurney My late aunt went to school with twins called Trump, Elsie May and Harry Will. Grounds for Patricide. If the language has changed, then and there 'trump' meant 'to pass wind.' |