RI Quiz

04 Aug 03 - 08:29 AM (#996364)
Subject: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens

Answers to this thread please. A prize will be awarded, not necessarily to the person who gets most answers right: as the questions vary wildly in difficulty, I may do a little weighting. The rather precise theme will be very helpful when you've spotted it.
   Question 4 is unfair, and downright misleading.

1: Where British stags enjoy some rare ould times.
2: United lads trying to break some galling chains.
3:Reputed location of a hallowed place.
4: Where they were proud of the Flying Cloud.
5: Where you'll a noisy shout of "Revenge"
6: One end of a Count's line.
7: 48 bars and a lot of yachts.
8: Home of a sweet-smelling Mary
9:Good place for viewing 11 and 12.
10: There was an old fellow from ----
11:May be seen to advantage from 9
12: may be seen to advantage from 9.
13:Good place for viewing lunar and solar events,
14: A minor classic, pure and popular with Coleman and any session player.
15: Go here for a bottle of wine and a roll in the grass with Mary.
16:Other end of 6's line.
17: A handsome boatman will take you there.
18:Millicent's favourite place.
19:Stellar object, superior to those of 1,6,13,16 and 20.
20:Back home at the other end of a Count's line from 13.

Good luck

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04 Aug 03 - 08:45 AM (#996370)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Partridge

1 Dublin?

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04 Aug 03 - 08:55 AM (#996377)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens

Just to help when I am allocating the prize, please indicate in your answers the relevant musical allusion(as it is possible to get some answers with guess work).

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04 Aug 03 - 09:05 AM (#996384)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens

Should have mentioned: Partridge, you are quite right .

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04 Aug 03 - 09:11 AM (#996391)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Rapparee

I'd answer some as:

1. Dublin (city, in the rare old times)
3. There are several contenders for place (Holy Ground)
5. Revenge (for Skibbereen)
8. Dingle (Red-haired Mary)
19. Star (of the county Down)

Several others come to mind, but I have to get to work.

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04 Aug 03 - 09:14 AM (#996393)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Rapparee

Forgot:

17. Rocks of Bawn.

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04 Aug 03 - 09:16 AM (#996394)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens

Rapaire: Correct on Skibbereen and Star of the County Down. Wrong on Dingle for reasons I will not explain at this stage.
Re Holy Ground: I used the word "reputed" advisedly. But I think there is only one well known contender which fits the theme of this quiz.

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04 Aug 03 - 09:19 AM (#996397)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens

17 is definitely not the "Rocks of Bawn".

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04 Aug 03 - 09:23 AM (#996399)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Snuffy

Lots of guesses here, Greg

1. Dublin
2. Wexford
3.
4. Tramore
5. Skibbereen
6. Bantry
7. Dingle
8. Tralee
9. Doneen
10.
11. Kilrush
12. Kilkee
13. Galway
14.
15. Dungloe
16. Derry
17. Carrickfergus
18.
19. Bannbridge
20. Dublin

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04 Aug 03 - 09:29 AM (#996402)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Snuffy

Missed the allusions

1. Dublin in the rare old times
2. Boys of Wexford
3.
4. Tramore
5. Skibbereen
6. Bantry bay (SotCD)
7. Dingle
8. Rose of Tralee
9. Cliffs of Doneen
10.
11. Kilrush -Cliffs of Doneen
12. Kilkee - Cliffs of Doneen
13. Galway (SotCD)
14.
15. Mary of Dungloe
16. Derry Quay (SotCD)
17. I wish I was in Carrickfergus
18.
19. Bannbridge town in the county down
20. Dublin (SotCD)

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04 Aug 03 - 09:43 AM (#996411)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens

Snuffy:P excellent, and your position might well be unassaible,unless I award a lot of bonus points for obscure allusions. For example, you give no allusion for q7, Dingle. You've got to tell me why it is Dingle before I tell you if youre right or not. And the musical allusion in Q13 is not actually the Star of the County Down.

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04 Aug 03 - 09:44 AM (#996414)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Roger the Skiffler

So 4 isn't Toronto then....

RtS

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04 Aug 03 - 09:46 AM (#996415)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens

Helpful update.
Not answered so far: 3,4,10,18.
The allusion in 10 is not as obviously musical as the rest.

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04 Aug 03 - 09:48 AM (#996416)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens

Roger the Skiffler: your answer is absolutely 100% correct, but alas doesnt earn you any points.No, it is not Toronto.

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04 Aug 03 - 09:56 AM (#996420)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Snuffy

Dingle Regatta (in three parts A+B+C=24 bars)

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04 Aug 03 - 10:00 AM (#996423)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens

Well   each part is played twice, making the 48 bars of the clue, just to explain the clue in full.

Revised update, actually the unanswered questions are 3,4,10,14 and 18.

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04 Aug 03 - 10:01 AM (#996428)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Snuffy

4. I shipped on board of The Ocean Queen belonging to Tramore

Isn't the Holy ground reputedly at Cobh? But that's out of sequence.

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04 Aug 03 - 10:04 AM (#996429)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens

Snuffy:Tramore is wrong.As you point out, the Ocean Queen came from Tramore. But so what?? And do check the preamble to the questions.

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04 Aug 03 - 10:26 AM (#996449)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Snuffy

Keep forgetting the "real" Baltimore is in Ireland:

"The Flying Cloud, the pride of Baltimore,"

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04 Aug 03 - 10:28 AM (#996450)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens

Correctimundo,Snuffy. Which, of course, puts Cobh in the correct sequence.
10,14 and 18 still to do.

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04 Aug 03 - 10:32 AM (#996453)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Snuffy

10 Would the old fellow be Edward Lear, perchance?

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04 Aug 03 - 10:33 AM (#996454)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens

What is your precise answer,Snuffy?

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04 Aug 03 - 10:33 AM (#996455)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Snuffy

Limerick

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04 Aug 03 - 10:57 AM (#996468)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Noreen

Aaaagh! Snuffy got here before me!

14 is Sligo Maid, very popular session tune in A minor.

Brill quiz, as ever, greg. Didn't see you in Beverley yesterday...

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04 Aug 03 - 11:05 AM (#996473)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Noreen

Oh, Sligo Maid also played by some young whippersnapper upstart called Michael Coleman who stratched about on the fiddle a bit, of course.

Now has a country named after him, I believe...

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04 Aug 03 - 11:19 AM (#996484)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens

Hi Noreen. Well, sa youve noticed, Snuffy's got in before you and pretty much cleaned them all up. I think number 18 has still eluded everybody, though, unless I've missed an answer.

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04 Aug 03 - 11:21 AM (#996485)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Noreen

You may be pleased to know that I sang through both verses of the Rose of Tralee, looking for a 'sweet-smelling' reference and not finding it, before I realised it was in the title.

Do I get extra points for knowing all the words? S'pose not, and anyway Snuffy would get the points too.

No reference made to the Count's line in 13 & 20: would it be Count John McCormack (made a papal count in 1928) who was known for singing the Star of the County Down (amongst other things)?

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04 Aug 03 - 11:27 AM (#996489)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Snuffy

Makes a change for me to get there before you, Noreen. You've usually snaffled up all the goodies long before I arrive.

WassaiL! V

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04 Aug 03 - 11:30 AM (#996493)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Noreen

Millicent doesn't ring any bells- even with the map nothing springs to mind. Millicent Martin? Millie? Milly Molly Mandy?

It's Mary not Millie in The Mountains of Mourne, isn't it.

Give us a clue... ?

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04 Aug 03 - 11:30 AM (#996494)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens

Well, Snuffy did refer to the song's allusions to clues 13 and 20 actually(also clues6 and 16). The two lines, of course, being one from Bantry Bay to Derry Quay, and the other from Galway to Dublin Town.
Though the actual q13 was "Good place for viwing lunar and solar events". Galway has been identified as the answer from other considerations, but no-one has said what the clue alludes to.
    Which just leaves Q18, Millicent's favourite place. Any takers?

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04 Aug 03 - 11:34 AM (#996496)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Noreen

OK Snuffy, I'll let you have this one :0)


greg:
You will sit and watch the moon rise over Claddagh,
And watch the sun go down on Galway Bay

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04 Aug 03 - 11:37 AM (#996501)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Noreen

(Yes i'd seen the lines implied, but not the Count).

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04 Aug 03 - 11:38 AM (#996502)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Dave Bryant

I think the Galway reference is the song "Galway Bay":

You will sit and watch the moon rise over Cladagh
And see the sun go down on Galway Bay.

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04 Aug 03 - 11:40 AM (#996505)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens

Noreen;correct on the Galway allusion,as I would expect from a seasoned quizzer.
   Well, I rather thought Millicent's favourite place might cause a bit of head scratching. Everyone will have assumed correctly that the answer is to be found somewhere between Carrickfergus and County Down, on the Irish coast. No mention of Millicent will be found on the map however. We have had a reel in Q14, but you might care to explore another kind of tune, possibly named after a place between Carrickfergus and Co Down?

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04 Aug 03 - 11:41 AM (#996506)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Noreen

Hi Dave, beat you by 4 minutes :0)

Thanks for joining in the last verse!

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04 Aug 03 - 11:58 AM (#996518)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Snuffy

There are 5 versions of Millicent's Favourite, (a hornpipe) at JC's tunefinder, but that gets me no nearer a place

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04 Aug 03 - 12:03 PM (#996524)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Noreen

Oh! I've learned something.

18: Belfast.
Millicent's Favourite is another name for the Belfast Hornpipe (aka Sweep's Hornpipe).

Thanks to JC's ABC tunefinder, as ever!

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04 Aug 03 - 12:07 PM (#996526)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Snuffy

Can we go back to work now?

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04 Aug 03 - 12:19 PM (#996530)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Noreen

Not too busy today, Snuffy?

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04 Aug 03 - 01:21 PM (#996549)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Snuffy

Just re-designing some database reports - nothing serious

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04 Aug 03 - 01:52 PM (#996574)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens

OK well done everyone, thanks for taking part. Snuffy, PM me your address. Again. And I do believe I've sent you a prize for a previous quiz, so you'ld better tell me what you already own in the way of Boat Band CDs!

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04 Aug 03 - 01:56 PM (#996580)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens

PS additional info: The Belfast Hornpipe, aka Sweep's, and Millicent's Favourite, is also Millicent's Fancy, and also one of the seven(I think) different tunes called Manchester Hornpipe.

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04 Aug 03 - 02:15 PM (#996589)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Noreen

But who was Millicent?

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04 Aug 03 - 02:18 PM (#996591)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens

I ask the questions on this thread. Start your own, Noreen!!!!

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05 Aug 03 - 01:57 PM (#997274)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: fox4zero

I don't see any connections between any of these places and "Poor little RI, the smallest of the 48"

Baffled on Block Island (BI,RI}

Larry

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05 Aug 03 - 02:05 PM (#997283)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens

Well the thing is Larry, I set a quiz a while ago called RB Quiz, The linking theme being all the answers were placenames on the coast of Britain, going round clockwise.And there is a programme on the radio called Round Britain Quiz. But I didnt want to give the game away too easily what the theme was. And then I did the same for America(the continent) and called it RA Quiz. Which is why I called this current one RI Quiz.
    Of course I intended no direspect to the tiny little afterthought of a state you live in,which is in any case too small to find on any map I own,so I've no idea where it is, or even if it exists. Though come to think of it I believe you have a famous chicken.

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05 Aug 03 - 02:29 PM (#997299)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: fox4zero

Greg

No disrespect perceived.

While my original note above was in jest, there is some basis for the
Block Island (RI) and UK connection.

During the War of 1812, the USN was unable to protect the entire eastern coastline against those "big bullies" of the RN. Both British and US warships "called" at Block Island for fresh water, meat and strong spirits, consequently the Island was declared neutral territory by the US Congress, and Islanders were not permitted to go to the the mainland. In the aftermath of our stunning victory, Block Island was NEVER SUBSEQUENTLY RE-ANNEXED!!, which is the basis for all loyal Block Islanders refusing to pay federal taxes, nor take any responsibility for the current federal administration.

Larry

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05 Aug 03 - 02:35 PM (#997304)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens

Are you still not allowed to go to the mainland? or perhaps nobody wants to?

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05 Aug 03 - 05:05 PM (#997404)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Nigel Parsons

Larry:
If you do eventually get to the Mainland you'll find you're no longer "Poor little RI, the smallest of the 48", they've picked up a couple more in the last century

Nigel

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05 Aug 03 - 06:13 PM (#997448)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens

yes I wondered about that,Nigel. Maybe there's some sort of news embargo and the papers dont get to this Block Island place.

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05 Aug 03 - 08:30 PM (#997538)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: Jeri

Well, I read the quiz late, got one right away and felt rather proud of myself. Figured I could work on the ones no one had gotten. HA! Snuffy is simply far too dangerous!

I think Larry's quoting someone who spoke when there were only 48 states. At least I hope so. Either that or Canada snuck in here while we were getting a drink out of the fridge and grabbed a couple states.

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06 Aug 03 - 02:20 PM (#998042)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: fox4zero

Greg and Jeri
Was quoting a pre-1959 song called "Poor Little RI"...smallest of the 48. Fewer potential rhymes with FIFTY than with EIGHT.

Islanders occasionally get to the mainland by stowing away on a rum-runner or a dragger. The smell of the former is considerably better than that of the latter, but the risk of a fishing boat being searched by the sensitive nose of the Coast Guard is far less.

There is one radio transmission tower here (about 150 yards from my house) which precludes receiving any outside stations. Frankly, news from the outside is of little interest here. However, word of this place has spread and it is changing like many other secret places in the world.

[sigh!] Larry

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06 Aug 03 - 02:49 PM (#998057)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: greg stephens

Have you got a bar on Block Island?Is it big enough for that?
   The reason I ask is has been my ambition for some time to play a gig with the Boat Band on every island in the British Isles(including Ireland, opinions differ on the name British Isles). As it is opinions differ when counting islands (some rocks are pretty small, and one sheep isnt enough), the working definition we use is "a bit of land surrounded by sea containing licensed premises, or somebody with a house with a barn for a gig). Now, this ambition will shortly be realised, so we must cast our net wider. Perhaps we should tackle America. So, how will Block island suit, as a starter?

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07 Aug 03 - 01:18 AM (#998342)
Subject: RE: RI Quiz
From: GUEST,fox4zero

Greg
Block Island is well populated by bars. The island measures 3 1/2 miles wide and 7 miles long. It is lovingly described as "pork-chop" shaped. Summer population numbers about 3000-5000 souls, and about 500 in winter (mostly without souls). Winter census is carried out on Ground Hog Day in one of the pubs, where everyone is supposed to be counted, in addition to the usual pub activities.

There are at least 3 or 4 "clubs" that have musical entertainment during the summer season. After November the main entertainments are alcoholism, wife-swapping and suicide.

We are also famous for moving an enormous brick lighthouse 150 feet away from the crumbling cliffs, about 4 years ago. Lighthouse buffs
(nuts) came from as far away as Australia to witness the excitment (which gives you a clue as to the limited entertainment in Oz). The move was planned by special engineers and was supposed to be moved a few feet at a time on RR tracks and rollers. But one night free beer was being handed out at Capt. Nick's, and one thing led to another and everyone pitched in and moved her in one push.

If you send me a P.M. with your snail mail address, I'll send you the usual chamber of commerce info and maybe I can find out who books for the Island. The Empire movie theater has live piano before each showing (for whom the hat is passed..the pianisthappens to be Leroy Anderson's grandson).

Jests aside this is a beautiful place, especially in Sept-Oct. The Manasee Indians called it the Island of the Gods. Well we sure taught them a thing or two about that sort of blasphemy...wiped them out in short order!

Night, Larry

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