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28 Sep 03 - 04:06 AM (#1025714) Subject: Making ring tones From: pavane As an experiment, I have added to HARMONY (But not yet released) the ability to convert tunes, including abc files, to mobile phone ring tones. This works by displaying the sequence of keys to press in the COMPOSER function of my phone. I have two questions 1: Is this something which would be useful to keep in the program for general use 2: Do different phones use the same system as my Nokia for encoding notes from the keypad? ( 1=C, 2=D etc, 8 = shorter note, 9=longer, * = octave, # = sharp) A tune then looks like this: 6*9 588 3 2 1 29 2 6 68 7 (Spaces just shown to separate notes for clarity) |
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28 Sep 03 - 07:10 AM (#1025748) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca Nearly 30 years ago, there were two books, sadly out of print I think, which were how to make tunes with Touch-Tone(TM) phones. I've lost them, but it was fun at the time. I vote to keep it in! |
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28 Sep 03 - 03:08 PM (#1025875) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: pavane I will keep it in, then, but not sure if it only works for Nokia phones, or if others use the same system. Can someone let me know? (I now have My Johnny was a Shoemaker as my ring tone.) |
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28 Sep 03 - 06:33 PM (#1025994) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: running.hare My phone's composer has a stave & the different numeral keys give different lengths of note.... But I cant for the life of me work out how to change the note (e.g pitch)!!! Which makes inputing tunes imposible, I managed a failing heart monitor though!!! @ least it's distinktive I guess :( |
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29 Sep 03 - 03:03 AM (#1026156) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: pavane OK so there are differences, as I expected. Lizabee, what make/model is your phone? |
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29 Sep 03 - 05:56 AM (#1026189) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: Pied Piper I managed to program Mrs McLeod of Raasay into my very ancient (in MP terms) Ericsson, but I've forgotten how. TTFN PP |
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29 Sep 03 - 08:26 AM (#1026249) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: treewind I think phones are all different, and the new ones that do multi part harmony must be very different! Also new ones will come out all the time, and you'll be struggling to keep up. Is there a MIDI-over-GSM standard yet? Anahata |
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30 Sep 03 - 03:12 AM (#1026556) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: pavane I don't think keeping up will be too much trouble, as it only took about an hour to knock up the Nokia version. As my program can already do multi-part harmony, that shouldn't be too difficult either. Why don't they just put a MIDI player directly into the phone - surely not too difficult, compared with video! |
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30 Sep 03 - 03:22 AM (#1026561) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: Rt Revd Sir jOhn from Hull ring tones are a big rip off.john |
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01 Oct 03 - 03:26 AM (#1026996) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: pavane The ones my program makes are free! I have now added Panasonic, which uses a very different system. I will have to carry out some research into other makes. |
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02 Oct 03 - 03:10 AM (#1027759) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: pavane I have released the program now, so you can try it out. Download from http://www.greenhedges.com |
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02 Oct 03 - 05:35 PM (#1028278) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: running.hare Mines a Motorola |
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02 Oct 03 - 07:33 PM (#1028367) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: Blowzabella Mines a pint of cider! |
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03 Oct 03 - 12:44 AM (#1028535) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: hesperis Mine's a motorola, I think... I totally haven't figured out how to make ring tones though. I'd love this program! |
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03 Oct 03 - 08:18 AM (#1028714) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: pavane In order to make it work for Motorola phones, I would need to see the description from the phone's manual. If you can enter ring tones from the keypad (possibly using a menu entry called Composer), then the way to do it will be described in the book. Maybe you could scan and send the page if so? PM me for my email address and I will be glad to try. (let me know the phone model as well) |
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03 Oct 03 - 09:10 AM (#1028747) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: Watson I would need to see the description from the phone's manual. ...not always possible - if you get the phone from Orange, for instance, you don't get the manufacturer's handbook - they replace it with their own, which misses out the interesting bits like composer. |
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03 Oct 03 - 10:28 AM (#1028830) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: sheila Watson - We have 3 Orange phones, and as you say, they come with Orange's version of the manual - BUT - most phone maunfacturers have their manuals available on the web. I've downloaded the ones for my phones. |
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03 Oct 03 - 10:41 AM (#1028844) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: Watson Ditto. Otherwise it would have taken me for ever to work out how to have Bonny at Morn for my ring tone! |
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03 Oct 03 - 10:42 AM (#1028846) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: pavane Well then, if you point me to the one you want, I will see what I can do. (Not all phone have the facility though) |
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03 Oct 03 - 04:51 PM (#1029157) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: sheila I would love to have 'The Waters of Kylesku' as a ringtone on my Nokia - but I doubt if I'd be able to figure out how to do it. Unless there are VERY simple directions somewhere. |
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04 Oct 03 - 01:09 AM (#1029392) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: rangeroger I just finished reading a novel "Bangkok 8" by John Burdett about a Thai police detetctive who is a practicing Bhuddist. There was a passage in it that I thought was great and is partcularly relevant to this thread. "I wonder if a miracle of modern technology will help me in my hour of need? I take out the Motorola that Rosen gave me and decide to change the ringing tune.I work steadily through the instructions in the manual and find that I have been given a choice of fifteen different tunes which includes the American national anthem but not that of any other country. Star Wars is the only attractive option,but I hesitate to copy Rosen. Angrily i realize that Motorola has led me down a labyrinth of apparent choice leading to a dead end. I have found the perfect paradigm of western culture,but without Pichai to share it with,who gives a shit anyway? I retun the tune to the factory setting,a perfectly acceptable bleep.Te excercise has not improved my sense of well-being." The book is a very good detective novel with major insight into Thai culture. rr |
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04 Oct 03 - 04:25 AM (#1029417) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: pavane Shiela The instructions are not difficult. If your phone has the composer facility, it is just a matter of typing a long string of numbers and then saving it My Johnny was a Shoemaker starts like this: 6*9 588 3 2 1 29 2 6 68 7 1*9 1 7** 7 6 6 58 3 2 1 29 2 6 68 7 1*9 1 7** 7 69 (Spaces not entered, just shown to separate the notes) To get this, you need to find or make the tune, preferably as an abc, and load it into my program. |
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04 Oct 03 - 10:39 AM (#1029540) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: sheila Pavane - I think I'm already lost! Someday, when my brain isn't feeling overloaded, I'd love to try this. |
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04 Oct 03 - 04:43 PM (#1029668) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: pavane If I could sit down and show you, I am sure it would be crystal clear. Maybe I just don't describe it well. Btw the example I gave was for the Nokia 3310 and compatibles, and taken from the first 8 bars of the 1870 version of the tune, possibly the original, not quite the same as the one currently used. |
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04 Oct 03 - 05:19 PM (#1029681) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: sheila I have a 3310! I should try entering the tune you gave - if I actually manage it successfully, I'll see if I can manage 'Kylesku'. I assume it will likely work the same way for a 3360? |
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06 Oct 03 - 03:02 AM (#1030283) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: pavane I believe that all older Nokia phones use the same system. (Not sure if the polyphonic ones do.) Let me know how you get on. It is worth noting that the display you get is NOT what you type in. Each note is show in a format like 4C2 8A3 where the first number is the length, the letter is the note, and the second number is the octave (1-3). |
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07 Oct 03 - 11:33 AM (#1031263) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: sheila Thanks, Pavane. It is beginning to make sense to me. I haven't tried it yet, but I will, eventually! |
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07 Oct 03 - 11:40 AM (#1031266) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: mooman I have a polyphonic Siemens GSM (S55) and have succeeded in making several polyphonic ringtones for it without too much trouble using Anvil Studio but would be interested in Pavane's Harmony system. Peace, moo |
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07 Oct 03 - 11:47 AM (#1031271) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: pavane Hi Mooman, Harmony just displays the key presses for you to enter the tune on the keypad. Of course, each manufacturer has a different system! I don't know if it possible to enter polyphonic ring tones on the keyboard of any phone. I would be interested to see the relevant pages of the manual (Usually called Composer, Melody Composer or something similar) My daughter has just bought a Sharp with polyphonic capability, but I haven't yet studied the manual. I do know it can use MIDI, but presume that must be downloaded from a web site somewhere. I am not familiar with Anvil Studio, so I don't yet know what it does (I will do some research). (Did you ever hear back from the guy who bought the melodeon?) |
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07 Oct 03 - 12:15 PM (#1031293) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: mooman No I didn't hear from him Pavane...guess he must be happy with it! I used Anvil to create a multitrack midi on my laptop (you can enter notes from a virtual keyboard) and then transferred this to the GSM using the Siemens data exchange software. I guess, similarly, existing midis could be edited or adapted. Best regards, moo |
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08 Oct 03 - 08:35 AM (#1031706) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: pavane Thanks moo, & regards to you & family. Harmony can make multitrack MIDI, so I suppose it could be done that way, but only if you have the data software. For the time being, I will concentrate on the keypad / melody composer facility. The phone facility is easy to use, but difficult to get the tune right unless you have the list of key presses in front of you. |
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29 Jan 05 - 02:06 PM (#1392430) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: Barbara Shaw This is an older thread but I have a new Motorola v551 cell phone. Can't figure out how to make any ring tones (or do much of anything else) and the manual is useless. Can anyone explain to me in babytalk how to add my own melody? I can get to the right screen, but all the numbers I put in end up being one long tone. (And up to now I thought I was a fairly intelligent person...) |
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30 Jan 05 - 05:51 PM (#1393650) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: Barbara Shaw Anyone? |
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30 Jan 05 - 07:41 PM (#1393739) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: IvanB Barbara, we have a V551 supposed to arrive tomorrow. When it does, I'll see what headway I can make with it (even though it's my wife's, I have to make do with a lowly V180). Will let you know later in the week. |
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30 Jan 05 - 08:33 PM (#1393791) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: John in Brisbane Pavane, there was some discussion about this on the abc-users list about 2 or 3 years ago. I fell off the distribution a few yeats ago and can't for the life of me get back on. Regards, John |
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31 Jan 05 - 06:03 AM (#1394067) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: pavane John, I also seem to have fallen off the list, just after it recovered from that serious bout of Spam. Maybe they have a new URL now? I have been too busy with other changes to HARMONY recently. And I lost a lot of the postings when my hard drive died recently. Everything was backed up OK except, apparently, the mail folder. |
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06 Feb 05 - 05:00 PM (#1400998) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: Fay I have two friends with unfortunate ringtone stories.... One (John) loaded extracts of all his friend's albums as their personal numbers (he knows lots of recording artists) so when they rang, their song came on. The problem with this is that he never knows it was his phone going off, he said the other day that he heard Tim on the radio, but it was just his phone - and he missed the call. The other is Gillian who has herself recorded saying 'help, help, let me out I'm trapped in here etc.... we were recently at a funeral, well you can imagine. Take care! Fay xx |
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06 Feb 05 - 06:56 PM (#1401102) Subject: RE: Making ring tones From: IvanB Barbara, as noted in my post above, our 551 arrived Mon. I agree with your assessment of the manual and I, too, have been unable to produce a tune from the menu instructions. We're traveling at the moment but when we settle down in a week or so I'll keep playing with it. If I have a breakthrough, I'll report it. |