01 Sep 98 - 10:34 PM (#36752) Subject: Lyr Add: JACKIE MUNROE (from Roberts & Barrand) From: Moira Cameron I just learned this one off of a John and Tony album (Present from a Gentleman). I really like it, but I'd like to know more about it. I've altered the lyrics slightly in the learning of it.
JACKIE MUNROE (Traditional)
Come listen to my story, 'tis of a wealthy squire, To me turra da way da way doe,
She had sweethearts a-plenty, to marriage were inclined,
But when her father came to know, in anger there he swore,
So she robbed her wicked old father; got money at her command
"Your waist it is too slender, and your fingers fine and small,
"It's true my waist is slender, and my fingers they are small,
"Well before you join my regiment, your name I'd like to know."
She sailed all over the ocean and over the deep blue sea,
And all across the battlefield, the fought it up and down,
"Oh Johnny, dearest Johnny, they have promoted me—
Then up and spoke a general, "Such things can never be!
Then up and spoke the chaplain, "Such things I'll never allow!"
So this couple they got married, as you may plainly know, |
02 Sep 98 - 12:09 PM (#36808) Subject: RE: Jackie Munroe: Info? From: Jerry Bryant Moira, Just the other day I came across a written version of this in a pile of loose songs I had in a folder. I have the tape you learned it from and found the melody and words identical to that on the paper in my folder, which leads me to believe that Tony learned it from that particular book. I'll go home tonight and check the sheet to see if it identifies the book it was copied from. I'll also check some of my other books for info on the song. What would you like to know about it? Jerry |
02 Sep 98 - 12:58 PM (#36810) Subject: RE: Jackie Munroe: Info? From: Earl It must be related to "Jackaro" which is in the DT database. |
02 Sep 98 - 02:52 PM (#36816) Subject: RE: Jackie Munroe: Info? From: Bruce O. It's N7 in G. M. Laws, Jr., 'American Balladry from British Broadsides'. Laws cites several traditional versions and a few broadside and songbook copies. |
02 Sep 98 - 02:55 PM (#36817) Subject: RE: Jackie Munroe: Info? From: dick greenhaus If you search for [Laws N7] you'll find several versions. |
03 Sep 98 - 05:55 AM (#36889) Subject: RE: Jackie Munroe: Info? From: Joe Offer Moira, click here to get to the Ballad Index, which has some comments on this song. -Joe Offer- |
03 Sep 98 - 04:24 PM (#36948) Subject: RE: Jackie Munroe: Info? From: Jerry Bryant Moira, There's no way to tell which book my photo-copied page came out of, but there is this note: "There's a twenty-nine-stanza Scots version in Greig's Folk Songs of the Northeast." This is a collection of Scottish folk songs which can be found in libraries. Jerry |
03 Sep 98 - 06:48 PM (#36957) Subject: RE: Jackie Munroe: Info? From: Moira Cameron Thanks all, for your help. I've found all your messages very informative. I've not (knowingly) come across G. M. Laws, Jr., 'American Balladry from British Broadsides', before. My indoctrination into the world of traditional ballads has mostly involved Child. How or where would I be able to get my hands on Laws' collections? |
03 Sep 98 - 11:41 PM (#37004) Subject: RE: Jackie Munroe: Info? From: dick greenhaus Laws books are out of print. His ballad numbering system was, I find, frustrating and cryptic; it suffered from all the problems of a hierarchical system. F'rinstance, Laws had a classification of Murder ballads and a different one for Negro Songs. A Negro murder ballad bogged the whole system down. The DT includes Laws numbers, basically, because they're there. |
22 Mar 03 - 02:10 PM (#916081) Subject: RE: Jackie Munroe: Info? From: Desert Dancer Roberts & Barrand cite A.L. Lloyd for their version. ~ Becky in Tucson |