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24 Nov 03 - 10:17 AM (#1059886) Subject: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: GUEST,andy i'm looking for folk songs about anarchy or by anarchist singers. if anyone knows of any, and could lead me to lyrics or tunes on this forum, links to other webpages, e-mail (arcsxe@bu.edu) or otherwise, i would really appreciate it! I'm making a presentation for a class with Tony Barrand. thanks and everyone have a great day! |
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24 Nov 03 - 12:27 PM (#1059963) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: mack/misophist Doesn't it depend on how you want to define 'anarchist'? I know at least 2 definitions. |
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24 Nov 03 - 12:31 PM (#1059964) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: MartinRyan A Google on "anarchist songs" will turn up enough sites to keep you busy for a while! Regards |
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24 Nov 03 - 12:52 PM (#1059974) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: greg stephens Have a browse among Spanish Civil war songs, and you will find some anarchist ones(if you dont mind singing in Spaanish). Though I expect there English language ones as well, a lot of British, Irish and Americans fought in the anarchist battalions. |
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24 Nov 03 - 03:43 PM (#1060066) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Charley Noble There's always the comical anarchist bomb song that we used to sing when we were young and innocent. It should be in the DT and the first verse and chorus runs: All in the anarchist's attic, So lowly and so mean, All amidst the fumes of nitroglycerene; They're stuffing cans with powder, And they're craming cans with nails, And when they're done they raise their voice In this mournful wail-l-l: It's brother Petros' turn to throw the bomb, bomb, bomb; Mother's aim is bad and the Cossacks all know Dad, So it's brother Petros' turn to throw the bomb, bomb, bomb! Give Tony our best! Cheerily, Charley Noble |
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24 Nov 03 - 05:01 PM (#1060097) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: The Fooles Troupe Oh Charlie, haven't heard that for years... I thought most 1960's folk song were anarchistic - or about peace and Love - which the Right seems to think are the same.... only when everybody is marching up and down in step in neat rows can there be Peace.... |
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24 Nov 03 - 05:08 PM (#1060100) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Mark Clark Well, the Wobblies (Industrial Workers of the World or IWW) were orginally anarcho-syndicalists advocating violence as a means of gaining control of the means of production. Perhaps Wobbly songs are also anarchy songs. - Mark |
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24 Nov 03 - 05:20 PM (#1060106) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: YorkshireYankee How about Leon Rosselson's WORLD TURNED UPSIDE DOWN (DIGGERS) -- it's in the DT (0.7742). depending on how you're defining "anarchy", it might or might not be the kind of thing you have in mind -- but have a look & see what you think. cheers, YY |
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24 Nov 03 - 05:29 PM (#1060116) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: greg stephens If Leon Rosselson is an anarchist I am Kylie Minogue. |
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24 Nov 03 - 10:46 PM (#1060334) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Coyote Breath "When I was a student at Oxford We made lots of Anarchist bombs And blew up the buildings of Parliament With decorum and lots of aplomb Cho. Sonya, Sonya the guests are at the door Sonya, Sonya, the guests are at the door Sonya, Sonya, the guest are at the door The prussic acids in the wine. Mother was a Muscovite masochist Nailed by father each night to the door We'd take her down for breakfast each morning As on arm of leg we would gnaw Cho. " There is more but, fortunately, memory fails. I think that this might have been in "The Bosses Song Book, Songs to Stiffle the Flames of Discontent". I had a copy and loaned it to someone who never brought it back - they also didn't bring back my "Little Red Songbook" and a lovely Tudor press book on Hieronymus Bosch. YOU know who you are!!!! Sorry CB |
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25 Nov 03 - 03:55 PM (#1060771) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: joe hill Adrian May has written humorous songs with anarchy in them. they mention ukaleles as well. for example 'Annual general meeting of the ukalele liberation front' and 'Anarchy in the ukelele' They are great songs and very funny. They are on the LP 'Anarch in the ukelele' I think he still does the odd booking around London and Essex |
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25 Nov 03 - 04:50 PM (#1060802) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Richard Bridge Presumably, since anarchy predicates the absolute absence of rules (funny, is that a rule?) anarchist songs neither scan, nor rhyme, nor have melodies. I always found it rather funny (and I was no the first) that there could be an anarchist party, on this basis. |
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25 Nov 03 - 08:21 PM (#1060960) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: akenaton Chairman Mao,s dictum ,during the cultural revolution,to have a state of continual revolution ,could perhaps be described as Anarchy.. This tactic was supposed to stop power resting in the hands of a few people and so becomming corrupted...Ake |
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25 Nov 03 - 08:44 PM (#1060972) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: breezy does Robb Johnson sit here? West London singer-songwriter go via 'Unlabelled' |
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25 Nov 03 - 08:58 PM (#1060979) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Herga Kitty Breezy - you beat me to it, because I was checking out Robb's website. 21st Century Blues? |
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25 Nov 03 - 09:29 PM (#1060990) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Cllr Robb regularly sings at the anarchists book fair (or used to) Oh yes and he is playing at ampthill acoustic club on the 27th of January. Robb used to describe himself as an unreconstructed socialist but paul the drummer in the band rob used to front was the only anarcho-syndicalist I ever met. Depends really what you mean by anarchy really. Cllr |
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25 Nov 03 - 11:57 PM (#1061065) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Coyote Breath Of course there is an anarchist party, next friday night, or maybe wednesday, bring your own booze (naturally) show up or not, there might be someone there and NO I won't tell you where it is, I'm no damned informer! CB |
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26 Nov 03 - 06:35 PM (#1061612) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: GUEST Of course there are as many definitions of anarchism as there are anarchists, but it seems that the bomb throwing stereotype has great currency even here on Mudcat. I think I might speak for many anarchists when I say that anarchism is predicated on the lack of coercive relationships, not so much the lack of rules. That definition would place the bomb-throwers in another category. And in fact, they are not believers in anarchism but in anarchy--there is a real difference there. They are not anarchists so much as nihilists. But I split hairs and drift threads. Sorry. There are many quiet, peaceful sorts of anarchists--anarcho-pacifists, anarcho-communalists. I'm not as in touch with that part of the world as I once was, but Kropotkin comes to mind and perhaps Murray Bookchin would fall into that category. A great anarchist song, according to my definition, is John Ball. It has the great anarchist line "...when we are ruled by the love of one another." Unfortunately, it has been pulled from the DT. David |
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26 Nov 03 - 06:36 PM (#1061614) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: GUEST,David Ingerson OK, who's got my cookie? That guest was me, David |
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26 Nov 03 - 07:01 PM (#1061630) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Cllr I agree with David The anarcho-syndicalist I met was a complete pacifist based (I think) on the presumtion that a utopia based on those principles would, to work by its own internal logic, be non confrontational on a physical level. Also "love one another" is the one ony the main planks of any humanist or religious idealogy. Cllr |
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26 Nov 03 - 07:14 PM (#1061647) Subject: Lyr Add: JOHN BALL (Sydney Carter) From: Herga Kitty It may have been pulled from the DT, but Sidney Carter's "John Ball" has been floating around in threads. JOHN BALL (Sydney Carter) Who will be the lady, Who will be the lord, When we are ruled By the love of another? Tell me, Who will be the lady, Who will be the lord, In the light that is coming In the morning. Chorus Sing, John Ball And tell it to them all - Long live the day that is dawning! And I'll crow like a cock, I'll carol like a lark, For the light that is coming In the morning. Eve is the lady, Adam is the lord, When we are ruled By the love of another, oh it's Eve is the lady, Adam is the lord, In the light that is coming In the morning. Chorus All shall be ruled By fellowship I say, All shall be ruled By the love of one another, All shall be ruled By fellowship I say, In the light that is coming In the morning. Chorus Labour and spin For fellowship I say, Labour and spin For the love of one another. Labour and spin For fellowship I say, And the light that is coming In the morning. |
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26 Nov 03 - 07:31 PM (#1061662) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: David Ingerson Thanks, Herga Kitty, for posting the words. I've been casting about for them and now they've falled into my lap! David |
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26 Nov 03 - 07:45 PM (#1061673) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Herga Kitty David - you're welcome Cllr - I haven't seen Paul M, the anarcho-syndicalist drummer, for ages, and that was probably at a Scope event. Kitty |
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26 Nov 03 - 08:19 PM (#1061691) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Gareth Ahhhh ! Anarchy. Do any aging "lefites" remember that parody of the Lincolnshire Poacher _ "With Moscow Gold and Dynamite, We'll set the People free ! Oh tis my delight on a Friday Night, To Bomb the Burgiousy (SP)" Gareth |
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11 Dec 09 - 08:55 PM (#2786559) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: GUEST,WeeWillie Here is a nursery rhyme from the 1600's. They hang the man and flog the woman who steals the goose from off the common. But let the greater criminal loose who steals the common from the goose. They say we must atone when we take things we do not own. But leave the Lords and Ladies fine when they take things that are yours and mine. This was during the time of Bloody Bess' "Enclosure Laws", that allowed the commons to be split up and claimed by the rich.. |
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11 Dec 09 - 09:03 PM (#2786565) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Little Hawk How about "Why Don't We Do It In The Road?" by the Beatles? What? Not "folk"? Well, excuse me! |
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11 Dec 09 - 09:13 PM (#2786571) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Mark Ross I WILL NOT OBEY by Utah Phillips is a great anarchist song. Mark Ross |
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12 Dec 09 - 12:08 AM (#2786655) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Art Thieme Mark, I do recall Bruce saying that an anarchist was anyone who didn't need a policeman to tell him the difference between right and wrong. Hope you are well, Art |
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12 Dec 09 - 03:25 AM (#2786695) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Les in Chorlton Secco and Vansetti are dead The song on UTube Sacco & Vanzetti the 2 leaders of the working class were executed in America 1927song of Woody Guthrie & David Rovics: Oh say there, have you heard the news Sacco worked at trimming shoes Vanzetti ... 'Christy' Moore performs the Guthrie song 'Sacco & Vanzetti' on his 1983 album "The Time Has Come" and again on the 2006 "Live at the Point" album. Also on the first or second Planxty album L in C |
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12 Dec 09 - 03:53 AM (#2786706) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Jack Blandiver The Sheep Stealer |
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12 Dec 09 - 04:50 AM (#2786732) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: GUEST Is Sex Pistols too obvious? |
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12 Dec 09 - 06:28 PM (#2787145) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: dick greenhaus "twas explained to me once that the Anarchist/Syndicalist movement disappeared because of the aging of it's members---it's just too hard to say while wearing dentures. |
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13 Dec 09 - 03:23 AM (#2787271) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Jack Blandiver Why do Anarchists drink herbal tea? |
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13 Dec 09 - 04:43 AM (#2787278) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Les in Chorlton Because proper tea ................. Brilliant L in C |
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13 Dec 09 - 05:15 AM (#2787286) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: GUEST,JTT Must fix that cookie... again (sigh). Here's Sister Jenny and her bomb, bomb, bomb from The Socialist Songbook |
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13 Dec 09 - 05:15 AM (#2787287) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: GUEST,JTT By the way, anyone know the tune? |
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13 Dec 09 - 07:01 AM (#2787314) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Jim Carroll Not strictly Anarchist -partially remembered - be grateful if anybody could supply a full version. Jim Carroll Tune Volga Boatmen When Serge and I were young we went to love in Omsk And there we spent our time making great big beautiful bomsk Then Serge and I grew up we went to live in Tomsk, And there we spent our time making great big beautiful bomsk. Then Serge and I were caught and exiled to Murmansk, And there we spent our time making revolutionary plansk But we shall not forget our revolutionary plot And we shall not forget our exiled comrade Trottt-skiiii. |
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13 Dec 09 - 11:10 AM (#2787409) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: GUEST Fourth verse: We returned to Omsk when we were set free And used our beautiful bombsk to blast the bourgeousie. Is your "When Serge and I were young we went to love in Omsk" a typo or is there really an alternative gay version? |
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13 Dec 09 - 11:32 AM (#2787419) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: GUEST,bankley anarchist ? I thought it said Antichrist Folks Songs...which may exist out there in the shadows,, 'The Beelezebub Boogie', 'Brimstone Cowboy', 'Neocons on Crack' stuff like that |
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13 Dec 09 - 01:22 PM (#2787472) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Jim Carroll Guest - thanks for that - 'love' probably a Freudian slip! Jim Carroll |
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14 Dec 09 - 03:27 AM (#2787832) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: GUEST,JTT But the tune, the tune? |
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14 Dec 09 - 03:32 AM (#2787835) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: GUEST,JTT Sheet music here. But since I can't read music, I'll have to wait for the day when Google produces something that will read sheet music and play a tune. Or when someone puts the song on YouTube. |
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14 Dec 09 - 03:44 AM (#2787838) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Monique Guest JTT, you can hear the music played on the page you linked to. Just click on the icone! |
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14 Dec 09 - 04:14 AM (#2787845) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: GUEST,JTT Tried that, Monique. The mp3 link says "click here to upload your mp3", and the gif link shows a visual of a file playing, but is mute. Apparently Leslie Fish recorded Sister Jenny's Turn, but I can't find any soundfile of it. |
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14 Dec 09 - 05:56 AM (#2787892) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Monique Check your computer volume control. I don't know how it shows in English but there must be the "Synthe SW" cursor on the lowest position that needs to be moved up |
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14 Dec 09 - 07:17 PM (#2788427) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: GUEST,JTT Nope, volume was up. |
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14 Dec 09 - 08:31 PM (#2788460) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: dick greenhaus It's in digiTrad, along with a click-to-play button. Look up [throw the bomb] |
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15 Dec 09 - 02:33 AM (#2788570) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: GUEST,JTT Tried that, Dick Greenhaus, but I got a '404 Not Found' message for the midi. (Kind of beside the point - I can never really translate how a song sounds in actuality from a midi file; something about the rhythm.) |
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24 Dec 09 - 03:28 PM (#2795833) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: GUEST,hariri there is a song for an argentenian band. '' gente que no '' for the band ( todos tus muertos ). there is also another spanish song named ( democrata ) and one named ( anarchista ) it starts with : un hombre alto me pregunta que porque soy anarchsita. this one is the best. |
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24 Dec 09 - 03:52 PM (#2795851) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: GUEST sorry it says : Un hombre alto me pregunta, en el autobús sentado, que porque soy anarquista, muy nervioso y asustado. there is one song about the spanish civil war. it is called : los dos gallos. for los olimareños. |
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24 Dec 09 - 04:05 PM (#2795858) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: GUEST,Corona Smith Chumbawumba have been writing lots of lovely Anarchist folk songs, many are destined to become classics of the Genre IMO, check out there last few albums! |
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19 May 10 - 03:02 PM (#2910062) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: GUEST,Dano Hey! I got a blog about that! http://anarchofolk.wordpress.com Cheers! |
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19 May 10 - 06:01 PM (#2910169) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Stringsinger Somebody should write a song about Saint Emma. Her associate, Leon Czolgosz was indicated in the McKinley ballad and may have been mentioned in a verse here and there. "McKinley, he cried, McKinley he squalled, The doctor said, "McKinley, I can't find that pistol ball" From Washington to Buffalo |
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20 May 10 - 11:26 AM (#2910594) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: ollaimh here's richard bridges with another ignorant and uneducated posting. only right wingers think anarchists don't have rules. they don't have coercive relationships, but lots of rules if you have evr been a member of a collective, as to songs, try the little red song book by the iww. they have many editions but republished every song ever in the bookma few years back. anything by utah phillips the canadian band sabotabby wereagreat anarchist group. any oof the grreat union organizer joe hills songs. and in europe there is a whole other tradition with songs in many langusges. the little red song book is the easiest to find |
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20 May 10 - 03:27 PM (#2910759) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Rog Peek 'I'm a Better Anarchist Than You' -David Rovics. Rog |
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21 May 10 - 12:06 AM (#2911018) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: GUEST,leeneia two minutes and eighteen seconds and he's still not singing... |
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21 May 10 - 01:43 AM (#2911043) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: GUEST,Continuity Jones There's a new album of anarchist folk songs called Spades, Hoes & Ploughs just been released by the Welsh folksong singer David Wrench. I only heard one song on the radio, Blackleg Miner, but it sounded very interesting. I'd say it's at the other end of the folk music scale from K Rusby, L McKeenit, J Moray et all. |
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21 May 10 - 02:18 AM (#2911049) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: GUEST,Continuity Jones Actually I think you'll find, Mr Continuity Jones, that it's called 'Spades, Hoes & Plows' not 'ploughs' as you so ignorantly posted above. It's on Invada Records. |
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21 May 10 - 04:16 AM (#2911083) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: GUEST,Rog Peek It's very simple on utube to move the curser on to the song if you are not interested in how he came to write it leeneia. Rog |
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21 May 10 - 09:36 AM (#2911221) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: GUEST,SylviaN For humour - I am a Feline Anarchist by Graham Miles. Sylvia |
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21 May 10 - 12:15 PM (#2911329) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Little Hawk Seems to me that John Lennon wrote some stuff that was pretty anarchistic in nature. It's not folk, but.... How about "Why Don't We Do It In The Road", "Revolution #9", and "Working Class Hero"? |
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21 May 10 - 12:21 PM (#2911333) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Deckman "Banks of Marble" |
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21 May 10 - 01:11 PM (#2911367) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: mousethief I have to assume that anarchists are incapable of singing in harmony? |
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22 May 10 - 12:10 AM (#2911787) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: LadyJean We have an Anarchist Marching Band in Pittsburgh. It strikes me as a bit of an oxymoron, but I have heard, seen and smelled them. They don't sound bad. There are, heaven knows, plenty of IWW songs. If the wobblies count as anarchists. |
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22 May 10 - 08:04 PM (#2912255) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: GUEST,JTT When Adam delved And Eva span Who was then The 'gentleman'? |
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22 May 10 - 11:44 PM (#2912336) Subject: Lyr Add: THE RIBALD REBEL'S SONG From: dick greenhaus THE RIBALD REBEL'S SONG (Fight For Liberation) In the draft board here we sit Covered o'er with Nixon's shit While our sweat is turning Agnew's filthy mill And the people, as they pass They jam Melvin up our ass Well I guess we've had our goddam fucking fill Cho: Fight, fight, fight for liberation Break, break, break the social scheme We will drag the bastards down And we'll grind 'em in the ground And replace them with a working class regime Then we'll send a firing squad After Cardinal Spellman's God Henry Kissinger will be the next in line Then we'll pump some LSD Into Jackie Kennedy And we'll make her fuck the workers' overtime Then we'll get a bloody rope And we'll hang the fuckin' pope And we'll burn the Sistine Chapel to the ground Then we'll turn our tommy-guns On the screaming, ravished nuns And the peoples' voice will be the only sound |
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23 May 10 - 11:23 AM (#2912525) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: Mark Ross And the last verse Dick is; If you hate the working class, but you want to save your ass, You'd better give your money to the poor, Or we'll sell your mothers twat to some some sailor on your yacht, And we will turn your favorite daughter to a whore. Recorded by Pat Sky on SONGS THAT MADE AMERICA FAMOUS. The original version can be found in that wonderful collection THE BOSSES SONGBOOK. I think that Patrick updated it a bit. Mark Ross |
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23 May 10 - 12:16 PM (#2912550) Subject: RE: who knows some anarchist folk songs? From: dick greenhaus Mark- Don't know an original source, but I can testify that the song--at least portions of it---predated The Bosses Songbook by at least a decade. |