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Jon Rennard - info rqd

09 Feb 04 - 04:19 AM (#1112306)
Subject: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Lancashire Lad

I have to 1970s LPs on the Tradition label by Jon Rennard. Does anyone know if he recorded anything else? Also can anyone supply any info on this singer who I believe is sadly now dead.

Thanks in advance
LL


09 Feb 04 - 04:32 AM (#1112317)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: The Borchester Echo

Jon Rennard died in a car accident in Leeds in 1972.   Shortly before that I saw him do an excellent set at the Troubadour. As far as I am aware, his only recording was the album Brimbledon Fair.


09 Feb 04 - 04:40 AM (#1112322)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: The Borchester Echo

I have jusr remembered (it's a long time ago!) that there was also a tribute release of a live set called, I think, The Parting Glass.


09 Feb 04 - 04:47 AM (#1112328)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Lancashire Lad

These are to two LPs I have. ,I wondered if there was anything more he recorded.
Was he from Leeds area?

LL


09 Feb 04 - 04:52 AM (#1112331)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: The Borchester Echo

The accident happened close to his home in the Chapel Allerton district of Leeds.   With him in the car, and also killed, was his roadie Marsh, a distant relative of mine.

There were no other commercial recordings to my knowledge.


09 Feb 04 - 07:16 AM (#1112385)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: breezy

I knew him as he ran clubs in Ledds and he was good chap for supporting my eary attempts at performing.
I was trying to track down his song'Percy the Peeler from Poppleton' awhile back.
I was a student in Leeds at the time I met him but I left Leeds in 1967 to return south.
I will always remember him, you are lucky to have some recordings of him.
I remember turning up to a pub and he was sat in a back room, singing to 2 people in very dimmed lighting,I'ld have liked to have known him more but I moved out of the scene as work took over.
Thats why I run 2 folk clubs and a song swap session these days.


09 Feb 04 - 07:22 AM (#1112389)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: The Borchester Echo

Stefan Sobell the luthier who now lives in Northumberland may know more. Possibly he'll have tapes as they occasionally worked together.


09 Feb 04 - 08:23 AM (#1112439)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: breezy

1st saw Stefan sing at jons venue

Golden Vanity, then Black Velvet Band


09 Feb 04 - 02:42 PM (#1112730)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,cusco

You've got it right. There were only two recordings. Both on the Tradition label based in Macclesfield. I thought he was tremendous. Apart from his serious side he could be hilarious and stood up in comparison to all the other funnies at the time, Capstick, Harding, Williamson etc.

I still croak "Garners Gay" on occasions which I first heard from him. "I Live not Where I Love". Had a brilliant night once in the Bush in Hyde.


10 Feb 04 - 04:44 AM (#1113098)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Lancashire Lad

Thanks for the info everyone
Glad to see there are still a few others around who appreciated him the music he made.
BTW Breezy, the track "Percy...." isnt on either of his 2 LPs

LL


24 Jan 06 - 10:28 AM (#1654817)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,johnlilburne

My wife and myself have the two albums - Brimbledon Fair and The Parting Glass (live).

My wife used to go out with Jon's mate, Marsh, who died in the car accident with him.

This was before my time. I came to Leeds in 1974.

JL


24 Jan 06 - 11:17 AM (#1654864)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: breezy

Hello Johnlilburne

Any chance of a copy please?

I ask blatantly as I see no other option open as it will be fitting to have seeing as he gigged me and worked hard to promote.

I used to know one of Jon's friends too !!


01 Sep 06 - 12:34 PM (#1824693)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,motco

I have tried in vain to get a copy of Brimbledon Fair to go with the ropey old cassette of Parting Glass I already have - a vinyl or CD of that would be good too. The master tapes are still extant I think, but the owners say they're not commercially worth publishing now. :(


28 Dec 06 - 04:15 PM (#1920742)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Jean

I have both of the LPs Brimbledon Fair and The Parting Glass but would not part with them. With the right equipment you should be able to get a copy from an LP. Jon and Marsh were killed on 29th July 1971 on Halcyon Hill in Leeds.


24 Jan 07 - 10:16 AM (#1946609)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

I may be able to get a CD copy of both LPs if that is any good to you.


19 Feb 07 - 06:46 PM (#1973014)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,carrie rennard

yeah ace i just found out jon rennard was my grandad i hope u all liked him !!!!


19 Feb 07 - 06:47 PM (#1973016)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

Yes, he was good.


19 Mar 07 - 11:07 AM (#2001109)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

There is a copy of the LP Brimbledon Fair for sale on ebay at the moment - if anybody is still looking.


19 Mar 07 - 04:08 PM (#2001381)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: The Vulgar Boatman

Carrie, your grandad was a lovely character and a great musician. Yes Stefan Sobell would know, as would Bob Pegg, Dave Burland and many other denizens of the mid 60's Leeds and Barnsley scene. Remember the Prince of Wales in Swinegate.
Sorely missed.
KYBTTS


09 Apr 07 - 09:44 AM (#2020433)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

The LP Brimbledon Fair sold on ebay for £31 plus postage - I'm just listening to my copy of it now. Somebody got good value there.


10 Apr 07 - 08:22 AM (#2021247)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: squeezeboxhp

i remember him well, the next night he was going to be at the Singing Jenny FC in Huddersfield. great singer


10 Apr 07 - 01:16 PM (#2021503)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Derby Ram

Yes I remember Jon very well - in particular his version of 'The Night Visiting Song'. I remember I was at Sidmouth Folk Festival when the news broke of his death. Dave and Toni Arthur organised a collection there and then for his family....very sad. Had he lived, I believe he would have gone on to prove a significant force in the development of folk song interpretation generally and we would all have benefitied from it. A very sad and untimely loss.


13 Jun 07 - 07:02 AM (#2075597)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: LITTLESHADY

EANJAY 24 JANUARY 07 SAID COULD DO CD RECORDINGS OF THE TWO JON RENNARD ALBUMS. IF YOU ARE STILL OUT THERE IS THERE A POSSIBILITY OF GETTING THIS DONE I'LL PAY THE COSTS. WOULD MAKE GREAT ANNIVERSARY PRESSY FOR MY WIFE. CHEERS.


13 Jun 07 - 12:42 PM (#2075942)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

Littleshady, I have PM'd you.


14 Jun 07 - 05:39 AM (#2076584)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: LITTLESHADY

Thanks for prompt reply. That's a shame I will have to start thinking again now!!


29 Jul 07 - 05:27 AM (#2113842)
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From: GUEST,xx

Remembering Jon and Marsh on the 36th anniversary of their deaths.


29 Jul 07 - 12:09 PM (#2114028)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

I always remember them, particularly on this day each year.

It was lovely to see Jon's granddaughter's (Carrie Rennard's) post in February; perhaps we'll hear from her again.

It would be nice if the 2 Jon Rennard threads could be put together.

I've just posted to both of them.


26 Nov 07 - 08:29 AM (#2202370)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Bob Clark

Wow, this is weird!
Jon used to live in my spare room on Asket Hill in Leeds.
We wrote one of the instrumental tracks (Chicken Fat) on Brimbledon Fair together and recorded it in Macclesfield. My copy of the LP was loaned out and never returned eons ago. Thought I'd check the web to see if there were any copies about and ran across this thread. I could go on for months about how great Jon was. I even have a few pics around if anyone is interested. Carrie, give my love to gramma Pat.


26 Nov 07 - 08:33 AM (#2202374)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

I loaned my 2 LPs out years ago and I don't think I would have got them back either but I made such a fuss about it!


19 Dec 07 - 07:46 AM (#2218832)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,David Abrams

I knew Jon well. Marsh sometimes took me to gigs. I have the 2 LPs and have just made them into CDs - not the best quality but it works. The night of the funeral we were all at the Irish Centre folk club and poor Tony Rose had to perform. Bizarre but this is teh first time I have listened to the LPs since his death - what a tragic loss.


19 Dec 07 - 08:12 AM (#2218846)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

I've put my 2 LPs onto CDs as well and since then I do listen to them more than I used. I'm pleased with the quality of mine (I used a Numark turntable and Audacity software). Mind you I had to do it more than once to get the quality I wanted.

I'm amazed at the good condition of my LPs. I did lend them to somebody many years ago and they "did the rounds" so to speak, so I feel lucky that they survived. I did have to "fight" to get them back!


20 Jun 08 - 08:12 PM (#2371136)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Mark Peers

Great to read the tributes to Jon who was a good friend and a one off. Important to record that he also played with the Jug & Bottle Washers Jug Band for more than 3 years.

The band played most of the Folk clubs and festivals in the north of England, toured Ireland supporting Johnny McAvoy (ex Dublin City Ramblers) Jon was an enthusiastic band member playing guitar, ukalele, kazoo and vocals. The other members of the band were John Wall (leader and organiser of the famous Memphis Folk Club in Leeds where Jon sang so often) on guitar, vocals, kazoo and funnel, Jim Peers on Jug (Sadly also no longer with us)and myself (Mark Peers)on the washboard.

I have many happy memories of Jon that included an amazing busking session at Whitby Folk festival in 1968 and many fun gigs right up to his tragic death. I have one of his LP's and some treasured tape recordings of the band live and of a Radio Leeds recording of "Shine" introduced by Bob Pegg. John Wall and myself have some photos of John with the band.

After Jon's sad death Bob Clark joined the band (see his contribution (Nov 07)and we changed the name to Count Orlandos Spasm Circus and later to the KC Moaners.

God Bless Jon


20 Jun 08 - 08:29 PM (#2371149)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Greycap

Jon got me a load of solo work in the Lakes when I needed it. I knew him quite well prior to his death, but didn't know Marsh that well.
I was in the Isle of Man when he was killed, together with Nick Strutt, and we couldn't make the funeral.
I never had his lps, so can't help there.
Roger Knowles


22 Jun 08 - 05:55 AM (#2371790)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

I'd love to see some of the photos, if anyone is willing to put them on the internet and provide a link.


22 Jul 08 - 04:28 PM (#2395375)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Martin Hirst

In reply to Bob Clarke's message of last November; Good to see your name again Bob. Do you remember me ? I married Pat, flat mate of Dickie's wife Jill. Last saw you at your restaurant in Chapel Allerton. I remember John so well, especially the early days at the Peel on Boar Lane - I wrote an article about him for the YEP. I was listening to Brimbledon Fair last night in bed on my iPod - my son (Joe Hirst - Miloco Studios) copied the tracks from my copy of the album to CD as I have nothing to play vinyl these days. Are you still looking for a copy ? Let me know. Carrie, are you little John's daughter ?


21 Sep 08 - 05:38 PM (#2446784)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Jen and John

We saw Jon Rennard by chance in the Lake District, first doing an impromptu gig and then at a folk club. I love his voice and guitar and wish I had seen more of him. Still have his record Brimbledon Fair and played it last week.   Has anyone put the other one on to a CD?


21 Sep 08 - 07:37 PM (#2446858)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

I have put both LPs onto CD for my own personal use. Earlier in this thread I had to tell someone that I couldn't give them a CD because I wasn't sure of the legal position in respect of copyright. The LPs were recorded approximately 38 years ago. Does anybody know who owns the copyright?


22 Sep 08 - 02:44 PM (#2447478)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Judith

Great to read all the messages re Jon Rennard. I was just a teenage folk fan in those far off days but our gang at The Bush folk club in Hyde just loved him and his music. Still have my copy of Brimbledon Fair LP - I have this particular tune played by Jon as my mobile phone ring tone! I downloaded this track (legally!) from iTunes I believe (or it may have been some other download website) as it's featured on a compilation album.

It's amazing that Jon's memory lives on after all these years. Until I happened on this message board I thought I was the only one with fond remembrances.

Judith


10 Jan 09 - 10:55 AM (#2537094)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,old folky

Jon was a great performer,saw him many times at the Griffin in Workington.Could really get the audience going with 'MARTIN SAID TO HIS MAN'sadly missed!


10 Jan 09 - 05:46 PM (#2537494)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Chris Brownbridge aka Ebor_fiddler

Percy the Peeler was from Potterton, rather than Poppleton though. I also recorded Jon at our club in York. Lovely singer and a thoroughly nice man.


05 Feb 09 - 07:49 PM (#2558514)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Rick USA

I discovered Jon in Leeds Record Library almost 40 years ago and left Leeds 35 years ago with both of his LP's, still have them here in the U.S.. Only problem? - no record deck any more. Never met him but it's wonderful to know that there are others who remember him.


02 Mar 09 - 03:29 PM (#2579575)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Dave Graham

Jon ran a folk club at the Ferrands Arms in Bingley, Yorkshire (with Jim?). It was my introduction to folk music. It was a terrific club with Jon as host and many fine acts. I particulalry remember a young Vin Garbutt. Great memories.


02 Mar 09 - 04:02 PM (#2579604)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

(with Jim?) That would be Jim Wishart.


18 May 09 - 02:43 PM (#2634963)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Chris Stern

I met Jon at Scarborough Folk Club in 1970. He was great both musically and personally. I was just starting out and he was very encouraging. I was lying in the bath in the summer of 71 listening to Folk on 2 when Jim Lloyd suddenly said that it was very sad that he had died. I was stunned!

Without going into details as to what happened, I resolved that night never to drink when I was gigging and I have stuck to that 100%. So Jon has stayed with me to this day.

I lost my copy of The Parting Glass in the USA. I'd LOVE to hear his songs again. Anyone got CD copies or even cassettes? My favorite, was his version of Jumbo the Elephant.


Chris


29 Jul 09 - 06:32 AM (#2689477)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

Joe Stead singing The Sheffield Apprentice.


26 Aug 09 - 07:42 AM (#2708844)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Brian Hull (Parlington)

I have an LP which was produced after the death of Jon Rennard in 1971, The Parting Glass, it has ten of his songs:
Side One
The Female Drummer Boy
Banks of Sweet Primroses
The Captain's Apprentice
Holmfirth Anthem
Jumbo the Elephant

Side Two
Follow the Plough
Garners Gay
Sailor Jack McCoy
In Your Smile
The Parting Glass

The album cover features on my site here: http://www.parlington.info

I have posted this on both threads, good he is still remembered!


20 Jan 10 - 05:39 PM (#2817061)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Neil Devlin - Tyneside

Met John in the late 60's when I used to perform in the folk clubs around Leeds, Harrogate and Ripon under the auspices of an old English teacher, and avid song collector, Les Pope. I used to book John in the club I ran at Washington and then go drinking with him the next day to make sure none of the booking money went south to Leeds. I do remember some classic drinking and singing sessions from a great troubadour. I still sing Johns version of the 'Bailiffs Daughter of Islington' when I drop into the traditional festivals in Scotland. Before the tragedy, Mash and his friends had just started a band called, if my memory serves me well, Threadbare Harmony? A great bunch of guys from a great time for music. I would be curious to know what became of Les Pope who got John a lot of work in the early days.


20 Jan 10 - 05:41 PM (#2817064)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: The Sandman

threadbare consort?


20 Jan 10 - 06:12 PM (#2817090)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: breezy

Les Pope got me to sing at his 'clubs'

I recall being surprised when having to do 3 sets of songs when I was only geared up for 2. Those are far off days, I can do hundreds now.

thanks for the reminder

It was Stefan Sobell who inspired the singing of 'The Bailiff's Daughter of Islington' along with Johnny Grope, sorry Cope and lowlands Low

It was Jon R who booked him at his Leeds club[s]


24 Jan 10 - 09:16 PM (#2820836)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST

Carole Cooper

Knew Jon well. Loved him and miss him. Sang at Scarborough Folk Club often and stayed with us. Have both lp's on tape. Gave lps away couldn't listen to them for years after he died. Hope family realise what a talent he was. Anyone hear from Janie?


29 Jul 10 - 04:17 AM (#2954309)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Mark Peers (JBW Jug Band)

Recently found an old tape of Jon with the Jug Band playing and singing with gusto at 2 live gigs in the late 1960's. One at Harrogate and the other at Tony Capsticks Folk Club in Rotherham. There was also a recording of an original song Jon wrote for the band when on tour in Ireland. Great days and great memories of Jon

Mark


19 Aug 10 - 08:51 AM (#2968559)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST

Richard Quayle

For Neil Devlin, who asked after Les Pope:

My wife Lesley and I ran a folk club in Horsforth in the earky '90s. Les and his wife Isla became regulars there and on one rare Christmas occasion, Ilsa sang for us. They lived in Holt Park in Cookridge when we knew them. We got to know Les very well and he gave me several tapes of old folk club recordings from the '60s and later. They were from his old reel to reel collection and were pretty bad quality sadly. He also gave me both of Jon's LPs on tape, again poor quality. I had the pleasure of seeing Jon gigging in '71, shortly before his death. He performed in the Windmill in Deal, Kent. I especially remember his wit and banter and his wonderful rendering of Jumbo the Elephant.

Les Pope's wife Ilsa died in the mid '90s and some time later Les remarried to a long standing friend Olive. He lived his last few years with her in Otley in a new bungalow at the bottom of the Chevin, opposite the old cattle market. Les was a really smashing chap and was delighted when Lesley and I played and sang several of Jon's arrangement for him at the Horsforth club.


12 Dec 10 - 09:02 AM (#3051712)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Chris

Could anyone please supply me with the tracklisting for Brimbledon Fair album?
Also if anyone wants digi links to JR's albums email me at
chrisma5803@yahoo.co.uk


12 Dec 10 - 10:19 AM (#3051752)
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From: Grampus

Track Listing for Brimbledon Fair:

1 Brimbledon Fair
2 The Eigerwand
3 I Live Not Where I Love
4 Regency        
5 Ballad of Joseph Myers
6 Go From My Window
7 Broom Besoms        
8 The Sheffield Apprentice        
9 Chicken Fat        
10 Bailiff's Daughter of Islington        
11 The Old Man's Lament        
12 Lullaby

Taken from my rather well worn LP.

HTH

G.


01 Jan 11 - 03:46 PM (#3065159)
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From: GUEST,Guest, , Tish Lawson


07 Feb 11 - 02:05 PM (#3090564)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Max Johnson

I was also a good friend of both Jon and Marsh. The first time I ever sang in public was at Les Pope's old White Horse club in Ripon with Marsh's cousin, Patrick Burns, and Marsh was with us. We sang 'The White Cockade'.
Jon was a great singer and a lovely guy. I can remember so many joyous nights around Ripon, Harrogate, Knaresboro and Leeds. Writing this now, I can still recall the thudding shock when Patrick told me that they'd been killed the previous evening. I was 22, I think Marsh was younger. Too young for all that.

The Marsh in Threadbare Consort was another Marsh. Consort's album 'Wearing Thin' was dedicated to Les Pope, who encouraged us all.

RIP, guys.


07 Feb 11 - 03:12 PM (#3090622)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

Hello Max, Patrick Burns lives literally round the corner from me here in Harrogate. Roger Knowles who has posted on this thread under a guest name also lives just round the corner.

Jean


07 Feb 11 - 07:35 PM (#3090786)
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From: Cestrienne

If I remember rightly, they were on the way home from a gig at the folk club that the Union Folk ran in... I THINK it was the "Durham Ox" in Congeleton.
His last song was "The Parting Glass" that night. Won't ever forget that.


08 Feb 11 - 09:06 AM (#3091089)
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From: GUEST,Max Johnson

I've just remembered that the last time I saw Jon was late one night when we bumped into each other in the otherwise deserted Waiting Room at Leeds Station. Both well oiled (on pints of Yamaha), and waiting for the last train home.

Hi Jean - I know both Roger and Patrick well. I must come over for a pint soon, but I'm a bit remote these days. And Patrick - if you read this - yes, I know it wasn't The White Cockade, it was the Maid of Fife.


08 Feb 11 - 06:08 PM (#3091386)
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From: Jean(eanjay)

Max, why don't you become a mudcat member? It's a great site and it's free ~ I could send you a message then.


09 Feb 11 - 06:58 AM (#3091660)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Max Johnson

Done. I told Patrick about this thread, but I doubt if he'll post!


09 Feb 11 - 10:17 AM (#3091773)
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From: Jean(eanjay)

Hi Max, had to send 2 messages ~ you'll see why .... lol.

You'll see the red 2 at the top of this page.


09 Feb 11 - 08:11 PM (#3092149)
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From: Paul Reade

I remember Jon - he gave me my first ever booking in his club at the Peel on Boar Lane in Leeds, probably in 1965 / 66.

I seem to remember he had a son who was a baby at the time, and was also called Jon. Is he around, and is he aware of all this discussion about his dad?


15 May 11 - 05:23 PM (#3154655)
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From: GUEST,Robbie McDonald

I loved Jumbo the Elephant when I was a lad - my dad Roger has the album Parting Glass - in fact it is him introducing Jon at the beginning of the live recording. I am pretty sure it was recorded at the Bate Hall in Macclesfield - at least that was where the Macdonald folk group played of which Rog was part, but could have been the Union Folk...


22 May 11 - 11:47 AM (#3158693)
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From: GUEST,GUEST, Lilacvine

Thought you might be interested to see this tribute to Jon Rennard that I put up on youtube.

JON RENNARD - BRIMBLEDON FAIR


23 May 11 - 07:54 AM (#3159093)
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From: The Sandman

thanks lilacvine, very enjoyable


23 May 11 - 11:54 AM (#3159203)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

Lilacvine ~ thank you so much for putting the video of Brimbledon Fair on YouTube. I will share it on facebook.


23 May 11 - 12:25 PM (#3159223)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Lilacvine

You're both very welcome! Just thought he deserved to be remembered.


07 Jun 11 - 08:43 AM (#3166479)
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From: Jean(eanjay)

Go From My Window

The Parting Glass

Lullaby

The Bailiff's Daughter of Islington


07 Jun 11 - 09:34 AM (#3166494)
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From: The Sandman

lovely singing and guitar playing, thanks.


08 Jun 11 - 06:54 AM (#3167002)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

I Live Not Where I Love


08 Jun 11 - 01:55 PM (#3167194)
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From: Jean(eanjay)

"In Your Smile" is a beautiful love song written by Jon.


13 Jun 11 - 06:01 PM (#3170115)
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From: Jean(eanjay)

The Sheffield Apprentice


14 Jun 11 - 02:29 PM (#3170574)
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From: Jean(eanjay)

This is the wonderful Holmfirth Anthem which Jon sang so beautifully. "Where the pratty pratty flowers grow."


15 Jun 11 - 09:04 AM (#3170918)
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From: Jean(eanjay)

Regency is an instrumental which Jon wrote.


19 Jun 11 - 07:29 PM (#3173114)
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From: Jean(eanjay)

Broom Besoms


21 Jun 11 - 06:40 PM (#3174167)
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From: Jean(eanjay)

Garners Gay


25 Jun 11 - 05:32 AM (#3176136)
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From: Richard Hardaker

More thanks for posting this selection of Jon's recordings on Youtube and reminding us what a considerable talent was lost to us those years ago.
I only heard Jon perform once, at Harrogate Folk Club when it was at the Irish Club on East Parade, probably spring or early summer of 1971 not long before he was killed. On that occasion representatives of the local bench of magistrates turned up to see what these young people were getting up to with their folk music. They went away greatly impressed. If Ray Black, folk club organiser at that time follows this forum he may be able to confirm these details.


26 Jun 11 - 07:42 AM (#3176643)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

The Ballad of Joseph Myers ~ sung by Jon on the LP "Brimbledon Fair". The words come from Kirkstall Abbey Museum and the melody from Jon.


29 Jun 11 - 12:12 PM (#3178370)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

Follow The Plough ~ bawdy but not offensive :)


15 Jul 11 - 04:46 AM (#3188068)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

A fun song Sailor Jack McCoy


29 Jul 11 - 04:09 AM (#3197748)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

Today is the 40th anniversary of Jon's death and I have uploaded The Female Drummer Boy to my YouTube channel. Jon sang this song on the LP "The Parting Glass" which was recorded at the Bate Hall Folk Club, Macclesfield in November 1970.


29 Jul 11 - 08:00 AM (#3197841)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

I have also uploaded this video of Jon singing the Leon Rosselson song Jumbo the Elephant .

There is now a good representation of Jon's talent on these YouTube channels:

http://www.youtube.com/user/jeana1001

http://www.youtube.com/user/LilacVine

Jon was a talented and popular performer; live performances by him were magical. It is important that people can search for him online and find examples of his singing/songwriting/guitar playing as well as being able to capture some of the magic of a live performance by him; he had a great sense of humour. His death was a huge loss to folk music.


29 Jul 11 - 01:19 PM (#3197994)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Dave G

Remembering Jon on the 40th anniversary of his death.


06 Aug 11 - 10:15 AM (#3202640)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

Banks Of Sweet Primroses


06 Aug 11 - 05:07 PM (#3202894)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Gillyharvey25

Jon played regularly in The Kennet Folk Club in Aldermaston Berkshire and was a brilliant singer and friend. My ex has copies of both Brimbledon Fair and A Parting Glass but, the way of the world, I can't get copies. If anyone could do me copies in any form I would be most grateful. I have the words of a song Jon used to sing hand written by him on headed note paper, I think it was no. 21A but definitely Methley Drive, Leeds.
Gilly


07 Aug 11 - 03:09 PM (#3203435)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

2A Methley Drive :)

The Eigerwand is an original composition from Jon about the abortive attempt in 1936 to climb the Eiger by a team of mountaineers.


08 Sep 11 - 12:51 PM (#3220122)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Spleen Cringe

I wonder if MARK PEERS who posted to this thread would mind getting in touch with me at contact@lostfolktapes.com, please? I can't PM you Mark, because you posted as a guest, but I'd like to talk to you about a possible interview/article for my Lost Folk Tapes website.

Cheers,

Nigel


24 Oct 11 - 07:36 AM (#3243855)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Ramblin Bert


11 Nov 11 - 02:06 PM (#3255105)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Candy Brae

I hear from Jane often (or Janie as you called her.) I know her very well. She is my sister.


11 Nov 11 - 06:25 PM (#3255271)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

Candy Brae, some people may not realise that Jon's beautiful song "In Your Smile" was written for your sister Jane.

In Your Smile

such a beautiful song


23 Nov 11 - 06:13 PM (#3262342)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Candy

I read all of this with tears in my eyes after all these years. I still hold many kind regards for Jon. He always made me laugh. I found him so warm and funny. I so loved to hear him play. He will "NEVER" be forgotten in my heart. "In Your Smile" will always remind me of Jon and the love he held for my sister.


26 Nov 11 - 06:49 PM (#3263982)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

I have spent today making a video of "In Your Smile" which I have uploaded to my YouTube channel. I have included Jon's introduction to the song which is amusing and it is followed by his tender rendition of his song.

"In Your Smile" ~ a beautiful love song


04 Dec 11 - 07:17 PM (#3268535)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,candybrae

I think it is better to have loved and lost...then to never have loved at all.


21 Dec 11 - 03:25 PM (#3277885)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

I have just uploaded The Parting Glass to YouTube. I have left in Jon's introduction to the song and I have copied the following information from the back of the LP (recorded at the Bate Hall Folk Club, Macclesfield, November 1970) cover:


"Although JON RENNARD'S first album -- "Brimbledon Fair" -- was a great success, embodying as it did immaculate performances of many of his best loved songs and ballads, it was a studio recording and inevitably lacking the 'magic' atmosphere for which he was justly renowned.

Here, in his second and last record, we salute Jon as his countless friends and followers knew and loved him -- holding a folk club audience spellbound with his renderings of tender ballads, drawing their eager participation in the chorus songs and reducing them to helpless mirth with the irreverence of his introductions. Sometimes bawdy, but never offensive, Jon's comments on his songs -- contrasting sharply with his obvious respect for them when he sang -- were part of the charm which endeared him to enthusiasts throughout the land.

This is an edited version of one evening's guest appearance at an ordinary, average FOLK CLUB. We were concerned not to embellish the occasion, making the microphones, etc. as unobtrusive as possible and the guest even received his fee! In the subsequent editing of the tapes we were faced with an overabundance of material and the most agonising part was deciding what to omit.

The result, we feel, is JON RENNARD -- "warts an' all".

And when thyself
with shining foot
Shall pass among the
Guest Star-scatter'd on the grass
And in thy joyous errand
reach the spot
where I made one-turn
down an empty Glass!

a verse from Omar Khayyám"


22 Dec 11 - 12:24 PM (#3278435)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Dave G

Many thanks for that eanjay. Brings back fond memories of a fine singer and a very funny man.


25 Jan 12 - 12:17 PM (#3296097)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Paul Denham

As a former resident of Leeds, - I recall that heard Jon Rennard in a folk club probably in the very early 70s and really enjoyed the music he played. I was looking for a recording of the Holmfirth anthem and found Jon Rennard on You tube and thought it the best on YOU Tube so much I listened to others of the recording of Jon that have been uploaded especially the Parting Glass. thanks to all the contributors above and to enjay for the chance to hear Jon again.


19 Apr 12 - 11:01 AM (#3340405)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

In June last year LilacVine uploaded to YouTube a video as a personal tribute to Jon titled "Jon Rennard Tribute & Leeds Memories". The song used was "Garners Gay" from "The Parting Glass" LP. The video shows how Leeds, where Jon lived, has changed in the 40 years since his death. I posted a link to the video in this thread. I have made another video for that song and included Jon's introduction :) Sometimes bawdy, but never offensive, Jon's comments on his songs -- contrasting sharply with his obvious respect for them when he sang -- were part of the charm which endeared him to enthusiasts throughout the land.

Garners Gay


01 Jul 12 - 10:15 AM (#3370254)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Barbara

Jane was one of my flatmates in Leeds in those days and Jon spent plenty of time there when we four physio students lived together in Headingley. Many happy nights were spent at Folk Clubs in and around Leeds in late sixties. Also remember well Bob Clark and his roommates at that time. Spoke to Jane on Friday.


01 Jul 12 - 06:47 PM (#3370438)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Dave Arthur

I've only just found this Jon thread. He was a lovely guy, great fun and a fine singer. A few days before he died he spent the day with Toni and myself in our cottage in Hurst Green in Surrey at the end of a southern tour. The weather was fabulous and we lay about in the sun eating strawberries and cream and talking about music and future plans. We had no idea when we waved him goodbye as he drove off up our lane that we'd never see him again, and that the folk scene and his family would lose such a sweet person. Of all the friends that have died over the years Jon is the one who most frequently pops into my mind, and I can never hear 'The Parting Glass' without thinking of him lying on our sunny lawn, laughing and eating strawberries. Such a shame, as, of course, are the deaths of so many other lovely members of the folk music community.


16 Jan 13 - 06:32 PM (#3467239)
Subject: RE: John Rennard Leeds 1964-7
From: Jean(eanjay)

Wikipedia


16 Jan 13 - 07:21 PM (#3467269)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler

He was a lovely person. I make no apologies for "nicking" stuff from him. He was worth it.


16 Jan 13 - 07:22 PM (#3467270)
Subject: RE: John Rennard Leeds 1964-7
From: GUEST,Ebor_Fiddler

Remeber his "Young Rambleaway"?


17 Jan 13 - 10:37 AM (#3467568)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

Jon singing "Young Ramble-away" is on YouTube:

Jon Rennard - Brimbledon Fair


05 May 13 - 11:02 AM (#3511820)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

LilacVine has closed her YouTube channel and so the videos she made of Jon are no longer available. I have uploaded the 3 songs that are no longer on YouTube:

Go From My Window

The Bailiff's Daughter of Islington

Brimbledon Fair


05 Jun 13 - 07:55 AM (#3522983)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,MaxBolch

I'm a student from Germany, equipped with an (unfortunately quite rudimentary) amateur studio and very much interested in British folk music.
I had the honour of providing the Irish musician Mr Mick Fitzgerald ('In The Morning') with my guitar and some amplification when he played some spontaneous gigs around Rheinbach, waking my interest in the lesser-known artists of the folk scene - such as Mr Rennard. Especially "Lullaby" and "Holmfirth Anthem" impressed (and still impress) me a lot.

Although I'm of a different generation and, most importantly, from a different country, I'd gladly support any efforts to grant this inspiring musician the deserved re-issue of his recordings. Motco stated that the holders of the master tapes do not believe in a commercial release. Nowadays there are so many ways to 'monitor' the prefinancing of low-edition CD/LP/Download releases via the Internet. A non-profit release could theoretically be realised - only, of course, if the family and the tape holders are interested in such a project.

I see that some people in this forum have already made efforts to find tapes etc. If some concrete plans should arise, I'd gladly offer any help or advance a bit of money on loan. If, however, the technical issues would be the limiting factor, I could provide a small Revox/Studer PR99 2-track studio machine to transfer potential stereo tapes into HQ-WAV files.


Best wishes,

Max


08 Apr 14 - 07:47 AM (#3616674)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Jean(eanjay)

The nephew of Jon Rennard's son has posted two videos to YouTube showing Jon's guitar that he used on tour. I am not sure if this is the same guitar that Jon is holding in the photo on the back sleeve of "Brimbledon Fair".

Jon Rennard's Guitar 1

Jon Rennard's Guitar 2


06 May 15 - 02:26 AM (#3706759)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,mebuda

To anyone who is still interested in obtaining Jon Rennard's music, I just found both his albums, Brimbledon Fair and The Parting Glass, with extra tracks!! available to buy for download on Amazon. Absolutely delighted. Rennard really is great, and it's wonderful to hear his music again.


24 Sep 15 - 07:31 AM (#3739480)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,elaine

I remember Jon in the 60s when he sang in a group. He sang all the Beatles songs.


09 Sep 16 - 04:57 PM (#3809191)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Tony Bowman

Jon,Bob CLark & myself set up the Folk Club @ The Ferrands Arms Bingley way back,& we ran it for about 10 years I think-it was a long time ago & I am 81 now.We called it Captain Ferrands Folk Club.Jon was magic on stage & the more he drank the better he performed & had the audience eating out of his hand.He was quite a character too.I had a party at the brewery in Kirkstall where I worked & lived & of course Jon & Marsh were there & helped themselves to a few bottles from the store when they left ,Jon later told me.Dave Anderson the Scotsman was also there-where is he now?Great memories of Strutt & Knowles & Sobel,great days & parties @ Bobs place.Jon was on the way to great things-I remember Euan McCall &Peggy Seeger,Tim Hart & Maddy Prior,Jeremy Taylor& Dave Burland,The Bolton Bullfrog @ the Ferrands & Jim Wishart(where is he now?) We actually ran a Folk Festival in Jons name for a couple of years & I have the presentation cup @ home. Still remember Jon quite vividly.


10 Sep 16 - 02:49 AM (#3809233)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,padgett

Jon was from the looks and recordings I have been given (Graham Holloway) a fine singer and guitarist and i agree the songs are unbelieveably good and his demise truly devastating ~ few have in my mind since been able to repeat his standard of performance ~ a sad sad loss of such talent

Ray


29 Jul 19 - 11:22 AM (#4002560)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Mark Peers

Incredible to think that today is Jon's 48th anniversary.

I was listening to some tapes just the other day of Jon playing with the JBW Jugband on a live gig in Harrogate with some rousing stuff including backing Diz Disley on Bill Bailey.

Jon is still much missed


11 Jan 21 - 05:50 PM (#4087546)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Tony Bowman

Carrie. I knew Jon well & have a photo together. We ran the Folk Club @ The Ferrands Arms in Bingley for many years. A good lad & great entertainer.


11 Jan 21 - 06:02 PM (#4087547)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: GUEST,Tony Bowman

Dave. Jon,Bob Clarke,American & I ran that Club in Bingley. We had Euan Macall & Peggy Segar there once. Happy days!


12 Jan 21 - 02:53 AM (#4087573)
Subject: RE: Jon Rennard - info rqd
From: Dave Hanson

Ewan MacColl and Peggy Seeger FFS.

Dave H