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04 May 04 - 02:51 AM (#1177466) Subject: Black Country Men From: Lancashire Lad Hi All Can anyone give me any background on a group called The Blackcountrymen (NOT Black Country Three). Their line up was Paul Darby, Dave Leeson and John Stretton and I know they made an LP in the 70s called First Time Out. Does anyone know if they released anything else as a group or individually? LL |
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08 May 04 - 11:20 AM (#1181109) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: Lancashire Lad No info anywhere? LL |
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08 May 04 - 04:04 PM (#1181290) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: RWJ The Black country men ran a club in Dudley in the 70tis at the stugling munky , the club went by the name "the stugling man" . I think they split earley 80s . The only reording I know was "fust un" The names i think are ok .Lost track of the a long time back . I woud like to meet up wihh them again , good memories . Ron |
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10 May 04 - 04:13 PM (#1182524) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: RWJ Some one out there must know them |
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19 Apr 05 - 10:12 AM (#1465312) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: GUEST,Sue Stevens I was a regular at The Struggling Man Folk Club and knew all The Blackcountry men very well, we used to hang out at Bromyard together every year. They split up early 80's. I met John Stretton at Upton a couple of years ago and invited him to my club (The Lighthouse FC), but he told me he had sold all his instruments and no longer played. First Time Out was their only Album and I don't believe they have recorded anything individually. What a pity! Sue Stevens |
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08 Feb 06 - 03:50 PM (#1664480) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: GUEST,Phil Glover I saw the Black Country Men at a pub in the Black Country as entertainers at a CAMRA bash. They were an excellent group, and I made an impulse-buy of their cassette tape called "Fustun"*. I've hardly dared play the tape in case it got chewed up, but I'm now trying to copy it to MP3 files. I'm not sure what copyright applies to the songs, so I may be unable to copy it for others. Any feedback/advice welcome! Regards, Phil Glover. *Tracks include: Song of the Black Country Men The Perry Croft Bull Bait Arthur McBride Slapbum Tailor Roses of Eyam Spotted Cow Y Viva Morris --- Punk Folkers Can't Find Brummagem Gornal Nailmakers Carol Cuckoo's Nest July Wakes Cradley Heath Song John O'Dreams |
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15 Nov 07 - 06:08 PM (#2194838) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: GUEST,Dave Leeson Hi ! Anybody still out there? Love to hear from you if so. daveleeson1@hotmail.com 'Ommer Um Cradley ! Dave. |
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17 Nov 07 - 05:14 PM (#2196224) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: The Vulgar Boatman Dave, a friend of mine has "Ommer um Cradley" emblazoned on a water can on his boat - never asked before as I thought it was to do with the fact that he was a smith. I can think of a number of possible explanations but please could you enlighten me? |
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17 Nov 07 - 07:02 PM (#2196317) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: Leadfingers Mr Leeson - Be wary of posting E mail address as Spammers can find you and fill your InBox with Crap . And IF you join Mudcat , personal messages are free , as is membership ! |
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17 Nov 07 - 07:36 PM (#2196336) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: GUEST,Dave Leeson Vulgar Boatman, certainly can ! 'Ommer 'Um Cradley' was the shout around the Cradley Heath speedway track based on the chainmaking history of Cradley and environs. 'Hammer Them Cradley' is the translation ! Yours in BlackCountry, Dave. |
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18 Nov 07 - 03:58 AM (#2196525) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: Rasener Black Country Sayings |
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18 Nov 07 - 07:39 AM (#2196622) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: The Vulgar Boatman Many thanks. C |
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18 Nov 07 - 01:06 PM (#2196841) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: Azizi Somewhat off topic, but with all due respect, would someone please provide information about the location of the "Black country". I'm assuming that as used in this thread "Black country" refers to a region in England, but I'm not certain about this. Thank you. |
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18 Nov 07 - 01:16 PM (#2196850) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: Rasener The Black country is an area tothe west of Birmingham in England UK and they talk a funny dialect that you can't understand. Black Country map Here is one of the best pubs in the Black Country. The Crooked House |
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18 Nov 07 - 01:39 PM (#2196873) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: Azizi Thanks for that information, Villan. I appreciate it. And re the funny accent, I imagine that folks in the Black country think that others' dialects are funny and not theirs. :o) |
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18 Nov 07 - 01:56 PM (#2196886) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: Rasener You can't even understand them, even if you are a Brummie like me. :-) In actual fact it is the oldest dialect in the English Language. |
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18 Nov 07 - 04:57 PM (#2197007) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: Gillie Eh up there Phil, sounds good, if possible I'd like some copies please. Lived in the Blank Country for a while, and got used to the accent. The thing is to watch the lips!!! Phil if you were to join mudcat I will e-mail my address. Cheers, Gillie If yam dafft enouf ti come dorwn ere, while gan yas for yor tie..... |
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19 Nov 07 - 03:20 AM (#2197248) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: Rasener Here is a link to explain a bit about the Black Country http://www.bbc.co.uk/blackcountry/uncovered/walk_through_time/index.shtml Her is a link, that allows you to type a question as you would say it, and you then convert it into black country lingo. Black Country converter Finally here is a link, that lets you listen to people talking from the Black Country. http://www.bbc.co.uk/blackcountry/voices2005/dudley/index.shtml#bb2 |
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19 Nov 07 - 07:51 AM (#2197368) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: Trevor An there's a few of us on the 'cat annall. |
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19 Nov 07 - 08:10 AM (#2197384) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: Rasener Just as well you have to talk in normal English on here, Trevor :-) Am Black Countryites Baggies or Wolves supporters? Can ar have a pound of black pudding our eynoch, please? |
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19 Nov 07 - 08:26 AM (#2197397) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: Trevor I've got to say, I don't think the accents in the clips are particularly strong. I come from Smethwick originally, on the edge of the Black Country (it was in Staffordshire when I was a kid so I'm proud to call myself a Yammer) - my nan was incomprehensible when she was annoyed. I remember her telling me to 'shurrup, yowve gorra vice lark a gratin under a dower'. |
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19 Nov 07 - 08:44 AM (#2197409) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: wysiwyg No Black-country - to - "Regular" converter so I can understand THEM? :~) ~S~ |
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19 Nov 07 - 09:29 AM (#2197443) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: Rasener Trevor. I agree the accents aren't that strong. I suppose the BBC have picked on people who can speak in a more clear accent. I remember playing a cricket team in the middle of the black country and I couldn't understand a word they said. Fraid not WYSIWYG, they don't want you to understand. A bit like the Welsh :-) |
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19 Nov 07 - 09:37 AM (#2197450) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: Rasener Mind you, having said that WYSIWYG there is this. http://www.sedgleymanor.com/dictionaries/dialect.html |
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23 Nov 07 - 07:13 AM (#2200579) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: Trevor BAGGIES of course! BOING! Slapadingle! |
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23 Nov 07 - 08:29 AM (#2200624) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: Rasener Do you want Davies back :-) |
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14 Jan 09 - 09:47 AM (#2539607) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: GUEST,paul darby of the blackcountrymen hi there-- went on to form a new band called bulldog--and recorded a tape called 'geoffrey goes to pieces'--all good things, paul darby pauldarby@fengshuidoctor.co.uk |
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16 Sep 12 - 06:14 PM (#3405833) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: GUEST,paul darby I am paul darby member of bcm, went on to form band called british bulldog Made cd called geoffrey goes to pieces. Am about To record a solo cd. Went onto tv fame as the feng shui docot See website www.fengshuidoctor. co.uk Can be reached at. tigerladypm@live.com |
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19 Feb 14 - 05:43 PM (#3602974) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: GUEST Hi im still here See www.paul-darby.co.uk I did folk cd with band called bulldog And about to do solo cd All good things Paul Darby |
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23 Feb 19 - 04:52 AM (#3978475) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: GUEST,Paul I went to a narrow boat rally in the 70's. BCM were the entertainment on the night. They did a great song called Punk Folk. Brilliant. |
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24 Feb 19 - 02:58 AM (#3978651) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: Mr Red The Black country is an area to the west of Birmingham Wedgebury & Darlo aye west much owr kid, nearer north ard say - mah mon. Samuel Johnson declared the area was black by day and red by night from the foundries. So not a reference to the coal mines. No Saddlers supporters? Thought not. Und wot abart Darlaston Amaters? At the City (ar City) grahrnd? |
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01 Jun 23 - 07:44 AM (#4173579) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: GUEST,Luke Stretton My grandad was John Stretton of the Black Country Men. He sadly died in or around 2004 I think. My dad has his old electric and acoustic guitars at home, and I think he might have a few of their old records too |
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01 Jun 23 - 10:20 AM (#4173588) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: GUEST,Nick Dow I used to know them reasonably well. I got them their first gig in London. Was it John that was in a 60's beat group 'The Undertakers'? |
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01 Jun 23 - 11:33 AM (#4173597) Subject: RE: Black Country Men From: GUEST,Nick Dow Looks like I got that wrong. I'm sure it was a well-known 60's band. Someone will tell me. |