04 May 04 - 04:00 PM (#1177697) Subject: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: catspaw49 Awright Gang, let's have some fun! At another site I visit, the SPEED Boards, there are some fun folks around too. A couple of them are true Mudcat material if they just had any minor interest in folk or blues....not that it matters much around here anymore(:<)) My friend Scutwerker (gotta' love the handle huh?) likes Cletus and Paw and has a typically warped sense of humor. He has a few running gags over there that are funnier than hell. Bobertz, if you're reading this, you need to visit "Satan's Used Car Lot"....you and Scut would get along great! Anyway......... That site allows you a "Signature" at the bottom where you can put sayings, pics, quotes, whatever. Scut has a picture of ol' Millard Filmore and daily he changes the captions which are generally something like, "If Millard Filmore, our 13th President, were alive today, he'd use the 50 cent coupons for Bush's Baked Beans."....or something equally stupid. A toy company that makes presidential figurine things is taking a poll on what others to do so let's all help Scut get Millard immortalized. We haven't done anything this fuckin' stupid in a coon's age. Remember wwen we sent all those postcards for El Swanno? THIS is that dumb!! So go to THIS SITE and vote for Millard. You can actually cast three votes if you vote him once for first, once for second, and once for third. The other choices are up to you. And here's Scut's thread at the SPEED boards... Dumbshit....Let's get on this and make Millard our man!!! Spaw |
04 May 04 - 04:04 PM (#1177703) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: SINSULL Millard Filmore was a native of Buffalo. His home in East Aurora is a stone's throw from my brother's home and a mandatory class trip for every true blue Buffalonian grade school student. I will see if I can recruit some more votes. SINS Millard! Millard! He's my man. If he can't do it, he can't. |
04 May 04 - 04:09 PM (#1177712) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: catspaw49 Ah Sins you beauty you!!! I knew I could count on you! Spaw |
04 May 04 - 04:09 PM (#1177713) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: SINSULL Why is Martin Van Buren beating out millard fillmore? And was Pierce really president? I missed that. GB Jr. comes with a Certificate of Authenticity. Bet it's forged. |
04 May 04 - 05:17 PM (#1177789) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Bee-dubya-ell I have fulfilled my civic duty. I am so proud I think I'll be shittin' red, white & blue fer a week. BTW, don't fergit to cast yer vote fer First Lady as well. I almost voted a split ticket and went fer Barbara Bush 'cause she looks so much like th' Quaker Oats guy an' my wife Susan really likes oatmeal, but then I remembered that she gave birth t' Dubya an' voted fer Mrs. Filmore instead. |
04 May 04 - 06:46 PM (#1177897) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Bill D you sure you don't want MALLARD Fillmore? He seems more politically aware.... |
04 May 04 - 08:43 PM (#1177983) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: SINSULL Have PM'd the Buffalo and East Aurora Chambers of Commerce as well as the EA JAycees. My nephew has been recruited to get his cronies from Johns Hopkins in the vote. Millard may win after all. |
04 May 04 - 09:13 PM (#1177999) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Amos I feel really dumb but, considering the much greater sacrifices you have made in that department, Pat, having made a flaming moron of yourself for Millard's sake, I have done my civic duty as a Catter. Three votes for Millard!! And pot in every Picking American! Or whatever... A |
04 May 04 - 11:23 PM (#1178103) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: wysiwyg I matched him up with Dolly Madison; I hope they will be very happy together. She's the correct aqnswer any time Jeopardy has a First Lady question set in that century. Been's as she's so popular in Jeopardy, I figured she was the best bet to take on three Millards. Did you want this submitted for prayer to the Prayer Chain then Spaw? :~) ~Susan |
04 May 04 - 11:25 PM (#1178107) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: wysiwyg PS: I DO think you ought to spell his name right, Pat! ~S~ |
05 May 04 - 12:55 AM (#1178137) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: LadyJean Sadly Fillmore only has 99 votes. We catters are going to have to do a little more. I voted for Warren G. Harding too, because great grandfather won a dollar from him playin poker. I voted for Rachel Jackson. Her husband was the kind of man who gives rat bastards a bad name, but I've always been fond of her. For some reason Mrs. Martin Van Buren is high on the list of first ladies. I wonder if they shouldn't have Rose Greenhow. She was James Buchanan's unofficial first lady. (Buchanan wasn't married. Mrs. Greenhow hosted parties at the White House. She was a Confederate spy. So it was very convenient.) |
05 May 04 - 02:01 AM (#1178178) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: open mike oops we may have overwhelmed the system.. i got a message back to say they could only record so many votes for one person, and that i could only vote once for any person. I chose Eleanor Roosevelt for 1st lady. they said i have to try agian later.. |
05 May 04 - 09:50 AM (#1178455) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Bee-dubya-ell By George! (No, not Little Hawk. And not Washington either. And damned sure not either one of those Bush assholes. We're talkin' whatever George it is that people usually mean when they say "By George!") She's right! The website seems to log voters IP numbers to keep them from voting twice! That's just not the American way! Just ask anyone from Chicago! |
05 May 04 - 12:09 PM (#1178585) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Blackcatter Millard was one of 5 Unitarians who wer president. Another reason to vote for him - he followed a different (and liberal) religious path. |
05 May 04 - 12:18 PM (#1178596) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Blackcatter CURRENT RESULTS 1st 2nd 3rd total George W. Bush 187 88 60 335 Millard Fillmore 100 106 114 320 John Quincy Adams 43 101 115 259 |
05 May 04 - 01:03 PM (#1178644) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: JohnInKansas I'm with Bill D. Mallard Fillmore is the only thing on my local editorials page that makes sense much anymore. (Of course, they do publish quite a lot of quotes from "local intellectuals.") Tough competition for Bush as it is though. Of course, most who vote won't actually look at the candidates' records. John |
05 May 04 - 01:05 PM (#1178647) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Blackcatter Have you noticed that the dolls pictured George W. seems to have a scowel, while all the rest are fairly pleasant? |
05 May 04 - 01:11 PM (#1178662) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: SINSULL Well - they're only showing Clinton from the waist up. |
05 May 04 - 01:14 PM (#1178667) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Blackcatter But he's smilin'! |
06 May 04 - 01:13 PM (#1179474) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: M.Ted LadyJean, Buchanan's official first lady was his niece, Harriet Lane. When Buchanan was young, he was engaged to a woman named Anne Coleman--they had a quarrel of some sort, and broke up, and she went home to the folks, where she immediately died(it is generally believed that she committed suicide). Buchanan never got over it, and never married(though he dated a lot). I like Buchanan, partly because he was from Pennsylvania, and partly because he is regarded as the one of worst presidents we ever had (right along with his predecessor, Franklin Pierce). When Lincoln was inaugurated, he is supposed to have told him, "If you are as happy about coming into this office as I am about leaving it, you area a happy man indeed." Even still, as a favor to Pat, I voted for Fillmore. He was the only President ever who actually admitted to being a "Know-Nothing"-- |
06 May 04 - 01:38 PM (#1179503) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: GUEST,MMario it wouldn't let me vote for fillmore in more then one location - and then when I tried using otherrs it told me I had already voted and couldn't vote again! the noive! |
06 May 04 - 01:44 PM (#1179505) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Peace I voted for Fillmore three times. |
06 May 04 - 02:20 PM (#1179545) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: okthen They said they were too busy and to try again later, do you think they know I'm from the UK? If Millard Fillmore were alive today he'd be just another American President that didn't have the faintest idea who I am. |
06 May 04 - 03:23 PM (#1179601) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Jim McCallan Filmore it is... Jim |
06 May 04 - 10:49 PM (#1179957) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Bee-dubya-ell Okay, so these little overpriced pieces of plastic crap talk, right? So does George W. Bush say "nukular"? How about "mission accomplished"? Maybe "Uhmerkha"? |
07 May 04 - 01:48 AM (#1180021) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Blackcatter He's getting votes! George W. Bush 187 88 60 335 Millard Fillmore 106 107 115 328 John Quincy Adams 43 103 116 262 Up 8 votes from last I looked. Just 8 more and he passes Bush! Come on people VOTE! |
07 May 04 - 02:20 AM (#1180026) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Jim McCallan Did it one more time.... |
07 May 04 - 06:33 AM (#1180151) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: RangerSteve OK, I voted for Millard, followed by Rutherford B. Hayes, who along with F. Pierce is the other president no one remembers and also has the distinction of having the only first name that will never be shared by another president. You may ask "what about Grover Cleveland?", well, his full name was Stephen Grover Cleveland, and being both a Steve and from New Jersey, he got my third vote. Mrs. Van Buren gets my vote as first lady, since she got a raw deal - Martin, in his autobiography, never refers to her once. He claimed it was not something a gentleman does. |
07 May 04 - 08:28 AM (#1180211) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: GUEST,MMario He's up to 332 vs Bush at 335 - but he's still 77 below bush for 'first choice' |
07 May 04 - 12:19 PM (#1180418) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Blackcatter Hey Steve - I'd say it's unlikely that another president is going to have the name Rutherford, but you never to. Plus, theres a few other as well - I doubt that Abraham has much of a chance. And who would have thought that we have had 2 1/2 Georges? George isn't exactly the most common of names. Ronald, Gerald, Dwight and Franklin may come back as popular baby names some day, but how many boys get those names today? And those were presidents within the last 60 years. |
08 May 04 - 01:25 AM (#1180899) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: LadyJean I didn't know about Ms. Lane. I do remember the poem from Rosemary and Stephen Vincent Benet's "Book of Americans" "Poor James Buchanan fiddled his whole term through. The north was getting it's dander up the south was angry too." They're fun poems. I wish someone would bring it back into print, instead of the patriotic tripe they're pushing on kids now. |
08 May 04 - 01:39 AM (#1180906) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: flattop Both Grover Cleveland and Millard Fillmore were sheriffs of Erie Counrty, in the Buffalo area. H.L.Mencken wrote admiringly of Cleveland because he hung a lot of people when he was sheriff. Did Fillmore hang anyone? |
08 May 04 - 08:17 PM (#1181442) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Blackcatter So was Cleveland the most hung president? |
08 May 04 - 09:55 PM (#1181498) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Peace Enough of this bullshit. I feel like I'm carrying the load here. I have voted for Millard SIX friggin' times. I have cast 5% of the votes for him. Where is the team spirit? I even left a note saying that I voted for his wife because I thought she had nice kazoos. I have never even seen his wife! Get with the program, PLEASE! |
08 May 04 - 10:36 PM (#1181517) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: GUEST,Ron Davies Happen to be reading (because I like history) a 1200-page tome called The Rise and Fall of the American Whig Party. Fillmore, against all expectations, turns out to be not another cipher like some other 19th century (and 20th?)--perhaps somebody even closer? US presidents, but actually an interesting guy. (I suspect the others may be also if you find enough info on them) As you know, he took over from Zachary Taylor when Taylor died in 1850. In fact he took over at a particularly tense time in US history. There was a border dispute between Texas and New Mexico which had heated up so much it could easily have started the Civil War in 1850, especially since slavery was an issue between the 2. New Mexico was not yet a state, but had declared its intention to come into the Union as a free state; Texas of course was a slave state. Texas had sent troops to the Santa Fe area to claim all the territory up to Santa Fe. Taylor, despite being a slaveholder himself, had sent US Army troops to the area (just before his death, as it turned out) to prevent the land grab by Texas. Fillmore followed in Taylor's path by telling the Texans that if they invaded US territory by marching on Santa Fe, he would have no choice but to call out the militia and the regular army. The border question was settled as part of the Compromise of 1850. Each side thought it had been cheated (what's new?) but, as Fillmore pointed out, Congress and no other body had the power to determine the border between Texas and the terrritory of New Mexico (and to do it fast enough--neither a boundary commission nor the Supreme Court could be quick enough.) Texas thought it should have all of New Mexico east of of the Rio Grande; New Mexico and many northerners thought 1/3 of New Mexico had been surrendered (to get the present day border). Fillmore pushed for passage of the entire package of the Compromise (including the Fugitive Slave Act). You could make the case that the Compromise was in fact necessary, since it prevented the clash of Texan and US arms (and southern states had promised to back Texas-Southerners were ready to fight. In the decade of the 1850's the North expanded considerably both in industrial power and population. As it was, the Civil War was a near thing-- a la Vietnam and the American Revolution, all the South had to do was persuade enough Northerners that it was not worth the blood and treasure to keep prosecuting the war. In 1850, the South might well have won (if generalship had been similar to what it was 11 years later)---- (I know, pure speculation, but intriguing, at least I think so.) Anyway, by 1855 it was obvious to Fillmore, who was a Whig, that the Know-Nothings were making big inroads into the Whigs--by saying what Whig leaders didn't, but quite a few rank-and-file believed--the Irish were undercutting wage scales, Catholics were a danger to the Protestant republic, and the Irish and Germans together were bringing down the morals of "good Americans" by drinking and running taverns. It was a delicate situation for Fillmore, who knew that lots of Whigs reviled nativism (and the secrecy of the Know-Nothings), but Fillmore wanted election in 1856. In 1852, the Whigs ran Winfield Scott ("Old Fuss and Feathers") (a far cry from "Old Rough and Ready" (Taylor), though both had been prominent in the Mexican War, which the Whigs opposed. The Whigs lost in 1852, against a political pigmy, Franklin Pierce, "the hero of many a well-fought bottle". ---(who else could this describe?) This author seems to believe the Whigs lost, ironically, because of their extremely clumsy attempt to win the immigrant vote. Scott, in a speech in Cleveland in the rain to a shouted response from the crowd: "I love to hear the Irish brogue, I have heard it before on many battlefields and I wish to hear it many times more" But the Irish and German Catholics knew there were lots of bigots in the Whig party, and so Scott did not get their vote and lost the bigot vote also (turnout was also way down). Sorry to ramble--I just thought it's an interesting story---OK--by 1855 Fillmore was trying to co-opt the Know-Nothings into the Whig party. He sent out feelers to them. He hoped he would not have to lower himself by actually joining the Know-Nothings, but eventually it became obvious he would have to, and he did. This book says he did it because of genuine concern that the Kansas-Nebraska Act and the agitation caused by it was endangering the Union, and he was the best hope for a nationwide Union party. (No ambition on his part--well--OK-- if you say so) In the end Fillmore was never elected President. Re: Fillmore as a Unitarian--not sure --have no info on this. But, if I were Unitarian, I wouldn't necessarily be so enthusiastic to claim Unitarian forbears. Unitarians didn't always wear white hats. (Fillmore--Fugitive Slave Act). Also, another book I'm reading, The Age of Jackson--Arthur Schlesinger Jr. ( won the Pulitzer for this one) quotes an extremely prominent Unitarian preacher, William Ellery Channing, as claiming that the rich had worse problems than the poor: The poor may be sometimes be overworked but "how many of our daughters are victims of ennui, a misery unknown to the poor and more intolerable than the weariness of excessive toil!" |
09 May 04 - 12:22 AM (#1181552) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: flattop Say Ron, I believe for Millard Fillimore and Grover Cleveland were back-to-back peresidents, both former sheriffs of Erie County. From what you wrote, Cleveland must have followed Fillmore. Do you know how Buffalo was able to send two boys in a row to the Whitehouse? Or am I wrong on the back-to-back? |
09 May 04 - 12:59 AM (#1181562) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: GUEST,Jim McCallan Great story! Jim |
09 May 04 - 01:28 PM (#1181684) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: GUEST,Ron Davies Thanks for your interest, Jim. I have to say I'm not even tempted to read fiction---history is just too fascinating Flattop--Buchanan (said by some, including a Smithsonian article I read, to a be a strong candidate for the all-time worst US president), followed Pierce, who was the political pygmy elected in 1852. So it was Fillmore, Pierce, Buchanan. (I don't know why I put that in--just wanted to mention Buchanan, I suppose.) Cleveland was elected in 1884--- "Ma, Ma, Where's my pa? Gone to the White House, Ha Ha Ha.". Cleveland also has the distinction of being the only president to ever have been elected to two terms separated by somebody else's presidency; in this case Benjamin Harrison. This is all asssuming my memory is accurate. |
09 May 04 - 07:14 PM (#1181861) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Peace Voted for him NINE times so far. Thanks for the history, Ron. Great reading. |
09 May 04 - 07:42 PM (#1181875) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Blackcatter Doing well: 1st 2nd 3rd total Calvin Coolidge 81 126 211 418 Lyndon Johnson 130 103 163 396 Millard Fillmore 118 109 115 342 George W. Bush 187 88 60 335 John Quincy Adams 44 105 118 267 Passed the Bush We're on our way to grabbing the Johnson! Still a bit away for being the #1 in first votes, however. Keep voting and tell people in other threads about this - imagine that Filmore ends up being #1! |
09 May 04 - 08:10 PM (#1181892) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Peace In true Canadian tradition, I vote for Filmore for first choice, second choice and third choice. I have done so NINE times so far. I shall do so again tomorrow until I can no longer vote. Such is my promise to my fellow 'catters. Now, with the kindest of tone and the mellowest of feeling: GET YER FRIGGIN' REARS IN GEAR VOTE, OFTEN. Thank you. Bruce M |
09 May 04 - 08:22 PM (#1181899) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Blackcatter Brucie - if you're given the chance, please vote for Kerry, come November. |
09 May 04 - 09:40 PM (#1181949) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Peace I hear thet, Blackcatter. The world needs to be rid of Bush and his gang. Soon. I hope and pray that Kerry is voted in. |
09 May 04 - 11:44 PM (#1181999) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: catspaw49 BC....brucie....flattop......etal..........Thanks for taking on this worthwhile project and supporting Millard in his hours of need. Keep up the good work! Ya' know. I've been around here over 5 years and I'm still amazed to watch how even the most trivial crappola can become a history lesson or a really great discussion. Once again, the 'Cat transcends music.........simply amazing. Let's keep passing the word and put Millard out there..........er......well, you know what I mean............. Spaw |
09 May 04 - 11:58 PM (#1182006) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: GUEST,.gargoyle Thanks SPAWBut NO> TAHNX!!!
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10 May 04 - 06:33 AM (#1182159) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Hrothgar Harding was, IM(not very)HO, the worst. Then again, you Yanks seem to have strange bases of assessment. How come John Quincy Adams is so far down the list? Please also explain to me how there are two Mrs Wilsons on the list. Woodrow wasn't widowed while President, was he? |
10 May 04 - 12:27 PM (#1182345) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Peace Twelve times. I have it on good advice that Fillmore will buy copious amounts of beer--truckloads--for people who vote for him. Think about that, fellow and fellowette 'catters. British beer. The good stuff. Why aren't British people voting? Back to y'all tomorrow when I have cast my fifteenth vote for Millard and his lovely wife's kazoos. Brucie |
10 May 04 - 01:57 PM (#1182424) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: SINSULL Wow! I learn something new everyday - Woodrow Wilson lost 12 wives while he was president. ANyone know how many he lost before and after? And he looked like such a dour old creep... |
10 May 04 - 11:37 PM (#1182724) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Peace Fifteen times. Fillmore kicks ass! |
11 May 04 - 12:55 AM (#1182780) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Blackcatter bruce - are you sure you're not from Chicago? |
11 May 04 - 10:22 AM (#1182833) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: GUEST 48 votes to go to pass LBJ |
11 May 04 - 02:15 PM (#1183056) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Peace Eighteen times. I am from Quebec, specifically Montreal. We voted regularly and often for the candidate of our choice. Our politicians were honest: Once bought, they stayed bought. Like Chicago I guess. |
11 May 04 - 02:20 PM (#1183062) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Filmore From: Blackcatter Lyndon Johnson 130 104 164 398 Millard Fillmore 126 109 115 350 George W. Bush 187 88 61 336 John Quincy Adams 44 106 120 270 |
11 May 04 - 06:16 PM (#1183242) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Peace Twenty-one. There will be no stopping Fillmore and his wife's kazoos. |
11 May 04 - 06:55 PM (#1183262) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Jim McCallan I must admit I've voted for him five or six times already, myself. )1,2,3) Can't say as I'd heard of him before I came to this thread Go Millard! :-) Jim |
11 May 04 - 07:42 PM (#1183288) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Peace Hey, Jim, I should clarify (thanks to you). My voting has been 1,2,3 also. So, up to now I have voted for him seven times for 1, etc. BM PS I have also voted for his wife seven times, but because my decision to vote for her was based on my perception of her kazoos, then I have either voted for her 3 1/2 times or 14 times. It will take someone better 'n me at math to figure that out. |
12 May 04 - 08:20 AM (#1183693) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,MMario when I tried to vote for him as 1,2, and 3 it wouldn't take my vote. How are you guys getting it to accept them? |
12 May 04 - 09:27 AM (#1183781) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST Lyndon Johnson 130 104 164 398 Millard Fillmore 132 109 115 356 George W. Bush 187 88 62 337 |
12 May 04 - 02:52 PM (#1184047) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Peace Twenty-four. And another for the kazoos. |
12 May 04 - 10:02 PM (#1184351) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter MMario - it should work. It doesn't let you vote one than once until you wait a while. I vote about once a day - when I tried to vote immediately after voting, it wouldn't let me. |
13 May 04 - 08:14 AM (#1184630) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,Scutwerker You guys are amazing! Your votes have helped push our last Whig president past LBJ! I'm sure if Millard Fillmore, our 13th president, were alive today, he'd have to take a tonic to quell his enthusiasm at the prospects of being immortalized in a 13 inch replica of molded, polymerized, petroleum byproducts. Be nice to Spaw. He is a valuable member of any online community. |
13 May 04 - 09:38 AM (#1184705) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,MMario an hour is enough time to wait. Lyndon Johnson 131 105 164 400 Millard Fillmore 137 109 115 361 George W. Bush 187 89 62 338 you will notice only 5 votes registered for millard since yesterday am. |
13 May 04 - 12:54 PM (#1184864) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Name First Second Third Total Ronald Reagan 2584 1214 695 4493 William J. Clinton 3393 473 592 4458 George Washington 1448 1416 1314 4178 Thomas Jefferson 600 1796 1440 3836 Abraham Lincoln 544 1037 1110 2691 John F. Kennedy 476 973 1049 2498 Richard Nixon 638 796 762 2196 Franklin D. Roosevelt 458 592 1070 2120 Jimmy Carter 289 1172 556 2017 Theodore Roosevelt 513 677 761 1951 George H.W. Bush 304 525 437 1266 Dwight Eisenhower 93 341 374 808 Harry Truman 158 267 318 743 Martin Van Buren 464 146 128 738 John Adams 210 211 199 620 Ulysses S. Grant 85 189 220 494 Andrew Jackson 91 166 224 481 William H. Taft 70 90 271 431 Calvin Coolidge 81 126 211 418 Lyndon Johnson 131 105 164 400 Millard Fillmore 141 109 115 365 George W. Bush 187 89 62 338 |
13 May 04 - 12:59 PM (#1184867) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter You know, looking at the list, me thinks we should try to get Reagan knocked off the top of the list. He was such a scary piece of crap, and any "reward" he gets is so competely undeserved. Maybe we need to take this to next level - tell your friends (if you have them) outside the Mudcat. I'll send the link to my Unitarian Universalist friends and ask them to vote for Filmore the Unitarian. I'm not encouraging you to vote for Clinton as well as Filmore (to knock Reagan of the top) but something must be done. |
13 May 04 - 01:12 PM (#1184879) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter I just sent it out on 5 UU message boards. |
13 May 04 - 01:44 PM (#1184903) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,MMario I've been experimenting - 25 minutes between votes is sufficient - perhaps less. I will continue to check. |
13 May 04 - 02:18 PM (#1184944) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST 10 minutes is acceptable between votes - six is not... |
13 May 04 - 02:50 PM (#1184969) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Peace Twenty-seven and one for the knockers. |
13 May 04 - 02:57 PM (#1184974) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST chocked up 12 votes (so far) today |
13 May 04 - 02:58 PM (#1184978) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Little Hawk I intend to keep voting for Millard Fillmore till I go blue in the face, and I am voting for Hillary Clinton to be his consort. |
13 May 04 - 03:01 PM (#1184983) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Irish sergeant Another for Millard Fillmore! A second for "Silent Cal" and one for Ruthafraud B. Hayes just to be spiteful towards the politicians of today (Ronnie, GWH, GW etc, etc, etc) And a fun time was had by all.Irish sergeant |
13 May 04 - 04:10 PM (#1185027) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST two more "first" votes and he passes Harry Truman. (But you will notice they rank them in the list by TOTAL votes) Using that value still needs 20 to pass LBJ |
13 May 04 - 05:14 PM (#1185064) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Peace Thirty, and one for the youknows. |
13 May 04 - 06:10 PM (#1185111) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Down to 17 to pass LBJ. |
13 May 04 - 06:27 PM (#1185125) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Peace Thirty-three and one for the pair. |
13 May 04 - 06:38 PM (#1185139) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,the ghost of Millard Fillmore I want to sincerely thank all of you for this, and particulary Catspaw49. I am very touched. Millard Fillmore |
13 May 04 - 07:41 PM (#1185188) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Peace Thirty-six and one for his wife. |
14 May 04 - 05:32 AM (#1185456) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,Ellenpoly Ok, I finally read this posting just to see what the heck it was about, and consequently went to the website and indeed voted for Fillmore (I had a very bad feeling that if I didn't, the ghost of Fillmore in the guise of blackcatter would come to haunt me.) Now, if it's alright with everybody, what I'm going to do at this point is vote for all the names of Presidents I really know nothing about...not even what they looked like. I figure this is as good a reason as any to want to see a doll of them made. But I PROMISE...first choice will always go to Millard..xx..e |
14 May 04 - 08:03 AM (#1185562) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST 13 needed to pass LBJ in totals. 80 to pass John Adams in "firsts" |
14 May 04 - 10:40 AM (#1185689) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST Calvin Coolidge 81 127 212 420 Millard Fillmore 177 109 115 401 Lyndon Johnson 131 105 164 400 34 to pass John Adams in "firsts" |
14 May 04 - 11:19 AM (#1185715) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Peace Thirty-nine and one for the Giffers. |
14 May 04 - 11:25 AM (#1185720) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,MMario Brucie - your votes are *NOT* registering. (since I've been checking stats about every 15 minutes over the last two days I can say that definativly) |
14 May 04 - 04:27 PM (#1185757) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Peace Ah, crap. All that for nothing? Screw Bush. I voted for Millard 13 times. Crap again. Thanks for telling me, Mario. Let the old boy know I tried. Crap. |
14 May 04 - 04:32 PM (#1185761) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,MMario John Adams 211 213 201 625 ... William H. Taft 70 90 274 434 Millard Fillmore 204 110 115 429 Calvin Coolidge 81 127 212 420 |
15 May 04 - 05:31 AM (#1186083) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 I just dropped by and voted again......Millard is now up to 431!!! You guys are really dooking....Gotta' get some more action in from the racing nuts.......MANY THANKS......Let's keep it up a bit longer as Millard can pass quite a few for very few votes!!! Spaw |
15 May 04 - 06:25 PM (#1186452) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Ellen - if that's what it takes to visit your bedchamber . . . Off to vote. |
15 May 04 - 06:31 PM (#1186457) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter John Adams 212 214 202 628 Ulysses S. Grant 87 191 222 500 Andrew Jackson 92 167 225 484 Millard Fillmore 212 110 115 437 William H. Taft 70 90 274 434 Next one to pass is the Territiorial governor of Florida (as far as I know, the only territorial governor to become president, and the last politician from Florida to make it to the Oval Office). |
16 May 04 - 12:29 PM (#1186804) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: MMario Andrew Jackson 92 167 225 484 Millard Fillmore 215 110 115 440 William H. Taft 70 90 274 434 |
17 May 04 - 12:14 AM (#1187031) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: dianavan Well, I tried but they wouldn't let me vote for Millard for 1st, 2nd amd 3rd. I tried again, but "We're sorry. We can only record a limited number of votes from any individual user. Please try again later. Thank you." Maybe my vote doesn't count. I always suspected this, anyway. Boo hoo.... |
17 May 04 - 06:21 AM (#1187122) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Hrothgar How come I'm the only silly bastard voting for Frances Cleveland? Nice youg chick ... |
17 May 04 - 08:19 AM (#1187155) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST if you vote for the same person in more then one slot your vote is disallowed. Then you have to wait a minimum of ten minutes vefore you can vote again. |
17 May 04 - 01:33 PM (#1187330) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter ah. |
17 May 04 - 01:59 PM (#1187342) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST a side effect - Benjermin Harrison has gone from dead last to fourth from the bottom. |
17 May 04 - 04:13 PM (#1187409) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST Andrew Jackson 92 167 225 484 Millard Fillmore 245 110 115 470 William H. Taft 70 90 274 434 |
17 May 04 - 11:42 PM (#1187583) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Ulysses S. Grant 89 192 223 504 Andrew Jackson 92 168 226 486 Millard Fillmore 252 110 115 477 Keep voting! Remember you can't vote more often than every ten minutes and you can't vote for him for 1st, 2nd and 3rd. I've been voting for Clinton too - to try to get him over Reagan. |
18 May 04 - 09:46 AM (#1187667) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST Ulysses S. Grant 89 192 223 504 Millard Fillmore 263 110 115 488 Andrew Jackson 93 168 226 487 |
18 May 04 - 12:56 PM (#1187749) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Martin Van Buren 464 147 128 739 John Adams 214 218 205 637 Millard Fillmore 285 110 115 510 Ulysses S. Grant 89 193 223 505 WOW! |
18 May 04 - 01:17 PM (#1187762) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,MMario The "steps" between are getting higher...but Millard is going like gangbusters!!!! anyone know any of his campaign songs? |
18 May 04 - 02:27 PM (#1187824) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Irish sergeant Sorry Folks, no campaign songs. Millard became presindent when Zachary Taylor died of what was probably gastroenteritis but was diagnosed as cholera moribus in July of 1850. I don't know if he ran in 1852. I'll have to look that up. Irish Sergeant |
18 May 04 - 02:59 PM (#1187852) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter FROM: http://nene.essortment.com/millarfillmore_ppq.htm President Zachary Taylor had opposed the Compromise of 1850, which would allow the spread of Slavery to the new states. Now, President Fillmore supported the Compromise because he felt it was the only way to prevent a Civil War. When Fillmore became President that was his main agenda, to sign the five documents that made up the Compromise of 1850. The compromise would allow the spread of slavery into the free states and also what is known as the Fugitive Slave Act. This Act allowed slave owners to go north and recapture blacks that were thought to be runaways back to the south without a trial. The northern states hated that law. They would try to protect the blacks by offering free legal advice and also posted warnings of known slave hunters in the area. The slave hunters would not only kidnap the runaway slaves but would sometimes kidnap blacks that were free and bring them to the south and make them slaves. This cost Millard Fillmore any political future. By signing the Compromise of 1850, Fillmore lost any future nominations from the Whig party they did not want anything to do with him. At this point they despised him. During the Campaign of 1852, the Whigs would not support him, so Millard Fillmore chose to retire. ---- So no campaign songs. He never ran for the Presidency. Any Zachary Taylor/Millard Fillmore campaign songs? |
18 May 04 - 03:06 PM (#1187860) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST Rough and Ready |
18 May 04 - 03:18 PM (#1187876) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter For Fillmore (no lyrics): 1 Fillmore schottisch, op. 28 / 2 American quadrille / 3 Fillmore grand waltz, op. 253 / For Taylor: Hurrah for Rough and Ready (sung to the tune of Old Dan Tucker) When Washington and Jackson fled, Folks thought our race of heroes dead, But Freedom to her soil still steady, Sent gallant Taylor, "the Rough and Ready." Hurrah, hurrah, Hurrah, hurrah, Both night and day with voices steady, Shout for our gallant "Rough and Ready." A noble son of old Kentuck, With a heart like a lion, an eye like a buck, A head as clear as her skies so free, And frame as tough as her hickory tree. Hurrah, hurrah, &c. In eighteen "12" 'gainst twelve to one, He bravely saved Fort Harrison, And made Miami's red skins fly, From the lead of his guns, and the fire of his eye. Hurrah, hurrah, &c. At Florida in '37, With five hundred men --- the foe eleven, He burnt "red alligators" Toby, And conquered at Lake Okeechobee. Hurrah, hurrah, &c. There Thompson, Brooke, and a hundred fell, 'Mid the roar of the storm and the Indian yell, But Taylor gave the cats such cracks, That they flew from the field like the fur from their backs. Hurrah, hurrah, &c. At last against the lurking foe, The pride of Bandit, Mexico, He met them five to one quite handy, And gave them Yankee Doodle Dandy. Hurrah, hurrah, &c. He covered Palo Alto's grass, And Resaca de la Palma's Pass, With heads and limbs and being winner, He fed his troops on Arista's dinner. Hurrah, hurrah, &c. Then hail to Zach., the first of men, With sword or word, or with the pen, To the people ever true and steady, We'll find him still "Old Rough and Ready." Hurrah, hurrah, Hurrah, hurrah, Both night and day with voices steady, Shout for the gallant "Rough and Ready." Come fall in boys, eyes right and steady. And raise the shout for Rough and Ready, He licked Old Peg Leg with his Pass And now he'll use up Lewis Cass.* All of the preceding verses are from the Rough and Ready Songster except for this one. This verse was found in an article in Fort Scott's files. |
18 May 04 - 04:07 PM (#1187922) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter John Adams 214 218 205 637 Millard Fillmore 302 111 115 528 But he will pass George H.W. Bush in 1st place votes with only 6 more! On the other hand: Ronald Reagan 2620 1215 697 4532 William J. Clinton 3393 483 608 4484 Clinton will pass Reagan with only 49 more votes for ultimate leader. |
18 May 04 - 06:41 PM (#1188046) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Irish sergeant Thanks Blackcatter! Great information on one of our least known presidents. Neil (AKA Irish sergeant) |
19 May 04 - 08:59 AM (#1188403) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST John Adams 214 218 205 637 Millard Fillmore 318 111 116 545 Ulysses S. Grant 89 193 223 505 |
19 May 04 - 08:16 PM (#1189046) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 MILLARD IS AT 593!!! Again, I thank all of you for not only the suport but the song and everything else. Can we go just a bit longer and push the ol' boy up with the well known and recent group? It will take about another 150 votes or so, but we've come this far and I hate to see Millard so near and yet so far! Vote early.....vote often. If you're voting for the first time might I suggest Garfield, Buchanan, Tyler, or Polk as your second and third slots? No competition to Millard that way! Spaw |
19 May 04 - 08:51 PM (#1189084) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Jeri Stupid idea? YEE-HAA! I don't know where you got 593, unless you're adding. He just now had 365 first pick votes. |
19 May 04 - 08:56 PM (#1189088) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 The tally is for all votes Jeri....the far right column.....He's almost up into the recognized guys!!!! BTW, if you space it right, you can vote several times a day. I always throw Millard in at two or three on my second or third vote. Spaw |
19 May 04 - 09:02 PM (#1189091) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Jim McCallan 597 |
19 May 04 - 09:18 PM (#1189106) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Amos Impressive -- he's ahead of U.S. Grant! A |
19 May 04 - 09:20 PM (#1189109) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 599 |
19 May 04 - 10:10 PM (#1189139) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter John Adams 214 218 205 637 Millard Fillmore 368 116 117 601 And by the way - just a few more votes for Bill Clinton and he's ahead of Reagan. I typically vote 1 Fillmore 2 whoever's on the bottom 3 Clinton. Share this tread on other thread too! If you don't know how to make a "blue clicky" click on the blue clicky at the bottom of the post box. It's easy. |
19 May 04 - 11:28 PM (#1189194) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Ron Davies Millard Fillmore "chose to retire". Not exactly. He ran again in 1856. By 1855 he was trying to inveigle Know-Nothings into the Whig party, since he realized they were in fact the only booming party at the time, and signing up many former Whigs. After trying to get Know-Nothing support without actually joining them, he realized it wouldn't work and did join them. Still didn't work for him--he was never elected president. There's a lot more to the story--regarding the Fugitive Slave Act, election of 1852 (Whigs decided to run Winfield Scott, since they had won with William Henry Harrison and Zachary Taylor--in fact they only won with generals--- and the third time was not lucky)--- and other topics. I have more of the story in my post of 8 May 2004 10:36 PM, but there's yet more. |
19 May 04 - 11:40 PM (#1189200) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter So how many generals have been president? Ronald Reagan 2637 1215 697 4549 William J. Clinton 3393 491 636 4520 Harry Truman 161 269 320 750 Martin Van Buren 464 147 129 740 John Adams 214 218 205 637 Millard Fillmore 370 116 117 603 It'd be great if we could get him up past Truman - that would definately put him in the same group with some of the best and most popular (which can be mutually exclusive). |
19 May 04 - 11:48 PM (#1189207) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Jim McCallan 605 |
19 May 04 - 11:52 PM (#1189213) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Naw, 605 could not have been president - we haven't had that many generals! |
19 May 04 - 11:54 PM (#1189217) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Millard Fillmore Religious Affiliation: Unitarian (From: http://user.ksni.net/~uuquincy/projects/stamps/6millardfillmore.htm) We know nothing of Millard Fillmore's religious life as a child. He and Abigail Powers were married by the Reverend H. H. Smith in Moravia, New York. They lived in East Aurora, New York where Millard practiced law. Sometime after they moved to Buffalo, they joined the First Unitarian Society (they were actually charter members). The pew rental assignment from the original church shows the pew which belonged to the Fillmore family. The church building, where they worshipped was burned around the year 1870, and most of the church records were burned too. While Mr. Fillmore was in Washington, D. C. he attended the Unitarian Church. One minister, the Rev. Joseph Henry Allen, a graduate of Harvard Divinity School, was minister here from 1847-1850. Allen's sermons dealt with many of the perplexing problems of the time. Foremost among them was, of course, slavery. Though many preachers were avoiding discussion of this matter, he, like Longfellow and Channing, never hesitated to express himself on the side of freedom. However, his ministry lasted only three years. It has been written, that the years between 1827-1854 were "Years of Struggle" for the Unitarian Society in Washington, D.C. "It was misunderstood and misrepresented in the community and at times political dissensions threatened its existence. But the families of .... John Adams .... John Quincy Adams....and Millard Fillmore during his presidency stood together in the old church edifice as in a strong fortress. It was important to them and to those who were to come after that a Unitarian Church in the capital of the nation be maintained. And thanks to them, it was." Abraham Lincoln attended the Unitarian Church in Buffalo with Millard Fillmore on Lincoln's way to the inauguration. Lincoln was Fillmore's overnight guest. Former president (and fellow Unitarian) John Quincy Adams attended the Buffalo church with Fillmore in 1843) Fillmore showed his interest in education by helping to found the University of Buffalo, now the State University of New York. Summary of Religious Views: Fillmore had no formal religious ties, and indeed had shown relatively little interest in religion, until he joined the Unitarian church in about 1831. Views on Religion & Politics: Fillmore strongly supported the separation of church and state. In the early 1830s, he labored to overturn the New York test law that required all witnesses in New York courts to swear an oath affirming their belief in God and the hereafter. Among other actions, Fillmore wrote a series of public letters opposing the the test law. Quotations: "In my opinion, Church and State should be separate, not only in form, but fact -- religion and politics should not be mingled." -- from a series of campaign speeches, Summer of 1856 I had not the advantage of a classical education and no man should, in my judgement, accept a degree he cannot read. (on why Fillmore declined an honorary degree from Oxford University) |
20 May 04 - 06:58 AM (#1189452) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 I'm actually beginning to really like this guy!!! Thanks BC!!! 610Spaw |
20 May 04 - 11:38 AM (#1189721) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: jeffp Adams has been passed. Next up Van Buren. |
20 May 04 - 11:40 AM (#1189727) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST Martin Van Buren 464 147 129 740 Millard Fillmore 406 119 117 642 John Adams 215 218 205 638 |
20 May 04 - 12:17 PM (#1189773) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Well with the number of fairly liberal religious people around here, I figured it be nice to see that Fillmore was a "stand up" kind of guy. Nice to see that he was serious about his faith too - so many of our recent presidents have been religious just because the were supposed to. |
20 May 04 - 12:37 PM (#1189804) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: katlaughing Jaysus, Spaw! I Knew I shoulda opened this thread a long time ago. Spent the better part of last night reading it and your gol-danged links..now I am so sleepy I can hardly type! I did my part...I voted for him for 1st, 2nd, and 3rd and I nicely paired him up with his wife. He does sound as though he was a decent fellow. *Warning: shameless plug* If I'd gotten a sixth of the hits he's had, well...paid hits, that is, my book would be going to the printer's today! Glad to do my part For Fillmore! Hmmmm, Charles and Myrtle Fillmore founded another very liberal religious society: Unity School of Christianity/Unity Church. I wonder if they were related descendants? kat |
20 May 04 - 01:22 PM (#1189868) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: jeffp kat, if you vote for him more than once at a time, the votes don't register. |
20 May 04 - 04:21 PM (#1190027) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST in shooting range of van buren Martin Van Buren 464 147 129 740 Millard Fillmore 435 128 117 680 |
20 May 04 - 10:11 PM (#1190371) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter "shooting" isn't the best term when talking about presidents. |
20 May 04 - 10:14 PM (#1190376) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter 690 |
20 May 04 - 11:08 PM (#1190405) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Ron Davies Fillmore is an interesting guy but no role model. He pushed the entire Compromise of 1850 including the Fugitive Slave Law. (It is of course possible that had not the entire Compromise package been passed, the Civil War would have started 11 years earlier, but we'll never know). As president he strongly enforced the Fugitive Slave Law, with its retroactive provisions which threatened blacks long resident in the North, and with its lack of jury trials. By the end of 1851, alleged runaways had been captured in New York, Pennsylvania, Indiana,, Illinois and Massachusetts and returned to the South. If he had heard abolitionist sermons in his church in the 1830's and 1840's, as president he did not let that influence him. His friend John Quincy Adams would have been very disappointed if he had lived to see Fillmore president. In 1856 he was the candidate of the Know-Nothing party, basically a fraternal order against Catholics (papal plot to topple the Protestant state), particularly against Irish (threatened to bring wage scales down for everybody since they'd take jobs at virtually any pay) and/or against immigrants in general, depending on what would play in a given area. Whether or not he believed all this, in 1856 he was their standard-bearer. There is also evidence that he ascribed an early loss in his career to abolitionists and immigrants. |
20 May 04 - 11:56 PM (#1190432) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Clinton is on top! Someone let Clinton Hammond know! Name First Second Third Total William J. Clinton 3394 507 658 4559 Ronald Reagan 2637 1215 697 4549 George Washington 1467 1508 1355 4330 Harry Truman 161 270 320 751 Martin Van Buren 465 147 129 741 Millard Fillmore 446 129 118 693 Ron - certainly he wasn't the perfect person. One thing is that the Unitarians who were abolitionists at that time were mainly in New England and not in the other parts of the country. Buffalo in the 1830s was not a place to be an abolitionist and a successful politician. |
21 May 04 - 10:45 AM (#1190754) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST JFK 476 FDR 467 Martin Van Buren 465 Mudcat's Favourite Son - 461 |
21 May 04 - 12:03 PM (#1190817) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter I'm currently voting for George Washington (to pass Reagan) and John Quincy Adams (to pass George W Bush) as well as Fillmore. |
21 May 04 - 12:12 PM (#1190827) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 That's a good idea BC!!! Doesn't hurt Millard and GW deserves it! Spaw |
21 May 04 - 12:13 PM (#1190829) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST don't that the fugitive slave act was part of a parcel that also included banning slavery in the district of columbia - admitting a state as a "free" state - establishing various territories as "free" territories and several other abolitionist measures. |
21 May 04 - 12:17 PM (#1190845) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter That's what I figured Spaw - even the guys on the top of the list - Fillmore is so far away from that, that it doesn't matter. And I'd love to see Dubbya near the bottom of the list. |
21 May 04 - 01:52 PM (#1190929) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,MMario I'm trying my dangdest to get Andrew Johnson up above Dubya as well. - but I'll contribute to the put "George Washington on top" campaign. - as long as Millard keeps getting votes. |
21 May 04 - 04:16 PM (#1191010) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST only a couple votes to go to pass truman |
21 May 04 - 04:37 PM (#1191021) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,Scutwerker Fillmore enforced the Fugitive slave law because it was the law of the land, and a result of the Dred Scott decision, which in some ways blurred the distinction between slave and free states. If anything, the enforcement of the fugitive slave act actually advanced the abolitionist cause. It forced the so-called free states to face the fact that this country's laws allowed slavery to exist. Citizens in free states could no longer take comfort in thinking that slavery was a regional issue. A slave in America was a slave anywhere they went. If slavey was to be abolished, it would have to be on a national scale. Whether as Whig or a Know Nothing, I would just like to see a president recognized, that neither of our current ruling duopoly of politcal parties can claim as their own. I don't think Jefferson or Jackson would fall in line with today's Democrats, not do I think that Lincoln would identify with the current Republican Party. Our exhalted icons are every bit as flawed as those left in obscurity. A vote for Fillmore is the act of an iconoclast. Go ahead, smash those idols! |
21 May 04 - 04:44 PM (#1191028) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter I just put him past Truman (which my dad would have liked. He never forgave Truman for dropping the A-bombs). Around 70 more votes to past Ike. He's the last one that's close. Everyone else will take serious dedication. Name First Second Third Total William J. Clinton 3394 508 659 4561 Ronald Reagan 2637 1215 698 4550 George Washington 1471 1510 1371 4352 Thomas Jefferson 611 1821 1478 3910 Abraham Lincoln 545 1047 1116 2708 John F. Kennedy 476 975 1050 2501 Richard Nixon 646 811 767 2224 Franklin D. Roosevelt 468 600 1078 2146 Jimmy Carter 292 1177 560 2029 Theodore Roosevelt 514 681 765 1960 George H.W. Bush 310 528 440 1278 Dwight Eisenhower 93 345 384 822 Millard Fillmore 497 137 120 754 Harry Truman 162 270 321 753 |
21 May 04 - 04:49 PM (#1191031) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter The first time I check and posted on this thread Fillmore had 320 votes. So we have voted for him 434 times! To past George HW Bush - we need over 500, but obviously we can do it. |
21 May 04 - 08:07 PM (#1191166) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 You've done a superlative job BC!!! Some of the votes have also come from the folks at the SPEED website. A few of them have taken off and run with this too. I just go back and forth and cheerlead a bit. Click the link in my original post labeled "Dumbshit" and you can see they too have been busy. Millard is now exactly 60 votes shy of Ike and I am looking forward to how great his name will look in the Top 12!!!!!!!! Spaw |
21 May 04 - 08:25 PM (#1191185) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Little Hawk This is great! I put in the vote that tied Millard with Truman and then Blackcatter pushed him over the top. Hurrah! On we go to devastate Ike! |
21 May 04 - 09:18 PM (#1191208) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Not just me Spaw, I'm happy to post the numbers, it's useful in this process. Off to vote. |
22 May 04 - 10:43 AM (#1191474) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 I know BC...and Mario, Jim, jeff, Ron, and others have been a big help, but it's obvious that your contributions too have been significant!!! At the moment: Dwight Eisenhower 93 345 384 822 Millard Fillmore 516 140 124 780 Getting very close.....Just a few more and we're over the hump!!! Spaw |
22 May 04 - 12:49 PM (#1191536) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter There's only 38 to go. Washington's doing well too. Only 170+ to go to pass Reagan. I still got to figure out how many presidents were generals. I'll be back. |
22 May 04 - 03:36 PM (#1191631) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter OK, here we go: Revolutionary War: Washington: General & Commander of the Continental Army Monroe: Continental Army lieutenant colonel Indian Wars: Wm. Harrison: ensign in the First Infantry of the Regular Army, rose to vice captaincy Jackson: General in Creek and Seminole Indian Wars as well as War of 1812 Lincoln: captain in the Black Hawk War Mexican War: Taylor: General Pierce: brigadier general Civil War: Grant: General-in-Chief of the Union Forces Garfield: major general of volunteers. Hayes: brevet major general McKinley: Enlisted as a private in the Union Army, mustered out at the end of the war as a brevet major B. Harrison: Colonel of the 70th Volunteer Infantry Arthur: Quartermaster General of the State of New York Spanish-American War: T. Roosevelt: lieutenant colonel of the Rough Rider Regiment World War I Truman: captain in the Field Artillery World War II Eisenhower: General, Commander of the Allied Forces Kennedy: Navy lieutenant & commander of a PT boat L. Johnson: Navy lieutenant commander Nixon: Navy lieutenant commander Ford: Navy lieutenant commander G.H.W. Bush: Navy lieutenant pilot Carter: Navy lieutenant & senior officer on one of the first nuclear submarines (1946-1953) Carter is the only president to serve in the military without being involved in combat situations, though he attended the Naval Academy during WWII. So, 8 president were generals. Interestingly, all recent presidents which served, did so in the Navy (Eisenhower being the last Army man). Of course, our current pretender was in the Air National Guard. |
22 May 04 - 05:17 PM (#1191689) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Peace Hey, my votes registered. Voted twice today. Will try a third time in an hour or so. YES! Fillmore for--uh, what's he running for? Anyway, Fillmore for that! |
22 May 04 - 06:36 PM (#1191723) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter good boy brucie. By the way - If Kerry is elected, he will be the first Army vet since Eisenhower. And one of only two or three that started out as a low-level vounteer. |
22 May 04 - 06:44 PM (#1191728) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter I just put him up to 800. I have an alarm clock that goes off every 15 minutes when I'm on-line (and that's how I do a lot of work) When the alarm goes off - I vote. |
22 May 04 - 08:31 PM (#1191760) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 just voted 803 spaw |
22 May 04 - 09:41 PM (#1191790) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter 808 |
22 May 04 - 09:41 PM (#1191791) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 806Only 16 behind Ike!!! VOTE FOR MILLARD NOW!!! Spaw |
22 May 04 - 10:06 PM (#1191796) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter 814 Funny Spaw - I posted a few seconds before you and had seen two more votes. |
22 May 04 - 10:12 PM (#1191798) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 816 now BC..... I got 'em votin' over at the SPEED site too.....We're going over tonite!!! Spaw |
22 May 04 - 10:37 PM (#1191812) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 I just cast vote #822!!!! The next puts us over!! THANKS BC and ALL!!!!!!!!!! Spaw |
22 May 04 - 11:04 PM (#1191818) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 Millard Fillmore is now 12th in the voting!!!! 826 to Ike's 822. Thank you to everyone for the support. Keep voting when you can! It's great to see the name of a virtual unknown up at the top and amongst some of the best known/more recent Presidents!! And once again, we have pulled off a totally ludicrous venture for no good reason but to have some fun!!! Spaw |
22 May 04 - 11:09 PM (#1191819) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: katlaughing Oops! I did it again! |
22 May 04 - 11:42 PM (#1191828) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Kat - that's the nicest association with Britney spears I've ever heard. Theodore Roosevelt 514 683 767 1964 George H.W. Bush 311 528 440 1279 Millard Fillmore 555 148 125 828 Dwight Eisenhower 93 345 384 822 451 to go to pass Bush - goodness knows if he deserves to pass Ike, he certainly should pass Bush! |
23 May 04 - 01:02 AM (#1191846) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Ron Davies Fugitive Slave Law was law in large part because Fillmore pushed hard for it himself, in order to try to satisfy the South. Obviously it's a matter of perspective--as a black, how would you have felt about it? Also, Dred Scott decision was not under Fillmore. |
23 May 04 - 01:23 AM (#1191854) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter At his time in history, being anti-slavery was not very common in the U.S. As I stated before, even though many Unitarians were abolitionists (such as Robert Shaws family - the Broderick charachter in Glory) the majority of them wer in New England, not our on the "frontier" in Buffalo. Most people didn't bother to think to much about the issue until the war pushed it down their throats unless they were in one of the border states. |
23 May 04 - 03:47 PM (#1192123) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Let's not stop voting now! If 40 of us vote 10 more times we'll pass the next president. |
23 May 04 - 04:07 PM (#1192139) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Peace 436 to pass the next guy. I just did my duty again. |
23 May 04 - 05:56 PM (#1192223) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Peace And again. Three for Willard and one for his wife. Was 445 when I checked. |
23 May 04 - 06:46 PM (#1192269) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter George H.W. Bush 311 528 440 1279 Millard Fillmore 571 150 126 847 432 left |
24 May 04 - 06:23 AM (#1192569) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Hrothgar I'm starting to think there is something sick about this - Fillmore has more No 1 votes than Lincoln, Franklin D Roosevelt, and John Adams. And when are you lot going to see sense and vote for Frances Cleveland? |
24 May 04 - 09:51 AM (#1192684) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: jeffp This is really being an awful lot of fun! Nice to see so many people playing. I just keep a window open on the site and vote when I remember to. |
24 May 04 - 10:52 AM (#1192740) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST I'm trying to get Andrew Johnson above Bush - the House voted eleven articles of impeachment against him[Johnson]. He was tried by the Senate in the spring of 1868 and acquitted by one vote |
24 May 04 - 11:20 AM (#1192772) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,MMario Hrothgar - please note Frances has moved up two slots this morning. |
24 May 04 - 11:34 AM (#1192784) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter The way I look at it is this - ifrst of all who cares (though them coming out with a Fillmore doll would be really funny. I'd probably buy one just to remember this whole thing). And on top of that there are some really bad presidents who deserve to be at the bottom of the list. Our current pretender is fairly low on the list, but I'd like to see him on the bottom, so I'm voting for J. Q. Addams to pass him. And frankly, it's sad that Reagan is #2 (but thanks to some of us he's not #1 any more). And I'm voting for Washingtom to pass him. Once both those things happen I'll start voting for others, too. I'm pretty laid back about this, but I'm slowly trying to reorder the list to the way I think it should be. Now go out and vote damn you! |
24 May 04 - 02:41 PM (#1192975) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,MMario A few vote counts - since thins is an election year we might as well get used to hearing them repeatedly... George Washington needs 106 votes to pass Reagan and clinch the number two spot. Fillmore is 369 voites out of the number 11 spot - which would bump George H. Bush to 12th. Dubya is currenlty only 9 votes ahead of John Quincy Adams - and Andrew Johnson is only another 21 behind Adams Polk, Wilson and Hoover are all within shouting distance of Gerald Ford. James Buchanan is dead last. In the First Lady popularity constest Frances Cleveland has moved up several spots recently though still 2137 votes out of first place and 1038 out of placing in the top five. No results yet posted in the First Pet catagory - though it is rumoured 'socks' is winning by a landslide. |
24 May 04 - 08:56 PM (#1193276) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Gotta vote for cats around here. Here's some of the standing for those of you are more visually inclined. William J. Clinton 3394 508 660 4562 Ronald Reagan 2637 1215 698 4550 George Washington 1496 1549 1413 4458 George H.W. Bush 312 528 441 1281 Millard Fillmore 617 182 130 929 George W. Bush 187 90 67 344 John Quincy Adams 53 128 156 337 Andrew Johnson 50 207 65 322 James Madison 34 95 145 274 Gerald Ford 34 80 127 241 James Polk 63 83 87 233 For those of you curious about Polk: James K. Polk Often referred to as the first "dark horse" President, James K. Polk was the last of the Jacksonians to sit in the White House, and the last strong President until the Civil War. He was born in Mecklenburg County, North Carolina, in 1795. Studious and industrious, Polk was graduated with honors in 1818 from the University of North Carolina. As a young lawyer he entered politics, served in the Tennessee legislature, and became a friend of Andrew Jackson. In the House of Representatives, Polk was a chief lieutenant of Jackson in his Bank war. He served as Speaker between 1835 and 1839, leaving to become Governor of Tennessee. Until circumstances raised Polk's ambitions, he was a leading contender for the Democratic nomination for Vice President in 1844. Both Martin Van Buren, who had been expected to win the Democratic nomination for President, and Henry Clay, who was to be the Whig nominee, tried to take the expansionist issue out of the campaign by declaring themselves opposed to the annexation of Texas. Polk, however, publicly asserted that Texas should be "re-annexed" and all of Oregon "re-occupied." The aged Jackson, correctly sensing that the people favored expansion, urged the choice of a candidate committed to the Nation's "Manifest Destiny." This view prevailed at the Democratic Convention, where Polk was nominated on the ninth ballot. "Who is James K. Polk?" Whigs jeered. Democrats replied Polk was the candidate who stood for expansion. He linked the Texas issue, popular in the South, with the Oregon question, attractive to the North. Polk also favored acquiring California. Even before he could take office, Congress passed a joint resolution offering annexation to Texas. In so doing they bequeathed Polk the possibility of war with Mexico, which soon severed diplomatic relations. In his stand on Oregon, the President seemed to be risking war with Great Britain also. The 1844 Democratic platform claimed the entire Oregon area, from the California boundary northward to a latitude of 54'40', the southern boundary of Russian Alaska. Extremists proclaimed "Fifty-four forty or fight," but Polk, aware of diplomatic realities, knew that no course short of war was likely to get all of Oregon. Happily, neither he nor the British wanted a war. He offered to settle by extending the Canadian boundary, along the 49th parallel, from the Rockies to the Pacific. When the British minister declined, Polk reasserted the American claim to the entire area. Finally, the British settled for the 49th parallel, except for the southern tip of Vancouver Island. The treaty was signed in 1846. Acquisition of California proved far more difficult. Polk sent an envoy to offer Mexico up to $20,000,000, plus settlement of damage claims owed to Americans, in return for California and the New Mexico country. Since no Mexican leader could cede half his country and still stay in power, Polk's envoy was not received. To bring pressure, Polk sent Gen. Zachary Taylor to the disputed area on the Rio Grande. To Mexican troops this was aggression, and they attacked Taylor's forces. Congress declared war and, despite much Northern opposition, supported the military operations. American forces won repeated victories and occupied Mexico City. Finally, in 1848, Mexico ceded New Mexico and California in return for $15,000,000 and American assumption of the damage claims. President Polk added a vast area to the United States, but its acquisition precipitated a bitter quarrel between the North and the South over expansion of slavery. Polk, leaving office with his health undermined from hard work, died in June 1849. |
25 May 04 - 09:14 AM (#1193591) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST Don't stop voting for Millard - but only 98 votes will put George Washington in the #1 spot. |
25 May 04 - 09:19 AM (#1193598) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter I'm doing that. Gonna put J Q Adams over Bush with my next vote. Then I'll focus on Polk too. It'll be Washington, Fillmore and Polk. |
25 May 04 - 09:28 AM (#1193606) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Lyndon Johnson 131 108 165 404 John Quincy Adams 55 130 160 345 George W. Bush 187 90 67 344 Andrew Johnson 54 207 65 326 James Madison 34 95 146 275 Gerald Ford 34 81 127 242 James Polk 65 83 91 239 YES! Oh - and why am I voting for Frances Cleveland? She's not the one with the kazoos, so... |
25 May 04 - 09:38 AM (#1193612) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,MMario Though I started voting for Frances due to Hrothgar's influence - she is actually a pretty good choice for top "First Lady" She was born in Buffalo, New York, only child of Emma C. Harmon and Oscar Folsom--who became a law partner of Cleveland's. As a devoted family friend Cleveland bought "Frank" her first baby carriage. As administrator of the Folsom estate after his partner's death, though never her legal guardian, he guided her education with sound advice. When she entered Wells College, he asked Mrs. Folsom's permission to correspond with her, and he kept her room bright with flowers. Though Frank and her mother missed his inauguration in 1885, they visited him at the White House that spring. There affection turned into romance--despite 27 years' difference in age--and there the wedding took place on June 2, 1886. Cleveland's scholarly sister (Rose Elizabeth Cleveland) her bachelor brother's hostess in 15 months of his first term of office gladly gave up the duties of hostess for her own career in education; and with a bride as First Lady, state entertainments took on a new interest. Mrs. Cleveland's unaffected charm won her immediate popularity. She held two receptions a week--one on Saturday afternoons, when women with jobs were free to come. After the President's defeat in 1888, the Clevelands lived in New York City, where baby Ruth was born. With his unprecedented re-election, the First Lady returned to the White House as if she had been gone but a day. Through the political storms of this term she always kept her place in public favor. People took keen interest in the birth of Esther at the mansion in 1893, and of Marion in 1895. When the family left the White House, Mrs. Cleveland had become one of the most popular women ever to serve as hostess for the nation |
25 May 04 - 10:37 AM (#1193666) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST Polk pulverizes Ford! Quincy bests Dubya! and the Charming young Mrs. Cleveland continues to gain in popularity. |
25 May 04 - 11:33 AM (#1193740) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,Scutwerker Fillmore had nothing to do with the Dred Scott decision. The Supreme court is independent of the President. The only way a President influences the Surpeme court is their role in nominating judges to fill vacancies. The Dred Scott decision interpreted the Constitution to allow an act like the Fugitive Slave law to be enacted. Yes, Millard Fillmore carved a political career out of the petty fears and predjudices of his time. his first association was with the Anti-Masonic party, and his only run for the White House was with the American/Know Nothing party, who were pretty much against immigrants and Catholics. In the light of today's attitudes about race, gender and ethnicity, few eighteenth or nineteenth century men stand up to close scrutiny. Even Mr Lincoln was a believer in the white supemist theories of his day. He just ddn't believe that theory supported the institutution of slavery. James K. Polk was the hand-picked protege of Andrew Jackson to recapture the White House from the Whigs. Those Whigs had used Jackson's "log cabin" and "hard cider" approach to toss out Martin Van Buren, Jackson's previous protege, in favor of the ill-fated William Henry Harrison. Polk used jingoistic expansionism concepts like, "Manifest Destiny" and "Fifty-four Forty or Fight" as the slogans to sweep himself into the White House. Britain compromised with Polk's territorial demands and we got Oregon. Mexico did not capitulate, so we declared war on Mexico and took Texas and California as our prize. The Mexican war was not nation building. It was a land grab, which happened to make Texas safe for slaveowners. Mexico had already prohibited slavery. As our standards continue to change, many of our heroes lose their luster. We can choose to honor our past, or live in growing shame of our common heritage. God bless Millard Fillmore, his friends, and his foes. They, like us were men of their times. Some future standard will find us all lacking. |
25 May 04 - 12:33 PM (#1193789) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST WHO THE BLEEDIN''ELL IS VOTIN" FOR DUBYA!!!! please stop. please. |
25 May 04 - 01:49 PM (#1193841) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter I doubt that it was anyone here - but Johnson would be past him if those 2 votes hadn't shown up. |
25 May 04 - 04:00 PM (#1193883) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Little Hawk Millard Fillmore now has 1005 votes and is nipping at George H.W. Bush's heels. |
25 May 04 - 04:24 PM (#1193892) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST A summary of todays events in this great political race: Frances Cleveland continues to gain popularity - Polk has surpassed Ford - George Washington continues to gain on Ronald Reagan and Clinton. Jame Buchanan continues in last place. Still no reults in on the pet popularity contest - a rumour has it the silkworms of John Quincy Adams will be pooling their votes for a landslide sweep of the polls. |
25 May 04 - 05:03 PM (#1193917) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Jefferson had silkworms too, right? Do I remember correctly that he brought them over from France or was that Adams? |
25 May 04 - 05:18 PM (#1193928) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter I was going to give you a rundown of presidential pets but better still visit the site: The Presidential Pet Museum White House pet listings By the way - from the site: Fillmore was a founding member and president of the Buffalo chapter of the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals. |
26 May 04 - 12:15 AM (#1194085) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Name First Second Third Total William J. Clinton 3395 508 661 4564 Ronald Reagan 2637 1216 699 4552 George Washington 1513 1568 1441 4522 Thirty votes away! |
26 May 04 - 10:01 AM (#1194141) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST In the voting action this am George washington stood at 4528 - 36 votes from the top position - Millard Fillmore was at 1040 - 143 votes behind Bush Sr. Frances Clevland is in the #20 spot - two up from previous standings. In action this morning Washington has closed to withn 25 votes of the top position - Fillmore has picked up 13 votes - and Frances continues to climb. Buchanan is still in dead last - but gaining on his closest rival. |
26 May 04 - 10:43 AM (#1194174) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,Blackcatter at work God I hate working in the morning . . . I've been voting back and forth occasionally for those at the bottom of the list. So they've been gaining votes. I'd like to eventually see them all above the current pretender, though that will take some work. I've been voting for Fillmore, Washingto and smetimes Madison or whoever is at the bottom of the list. And of course, Frances |
26 May 04 - 10:46 AM (#1194176) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: katlaughing BC- Britney who?**bg** I did it, again. |
26 May 04 - 11:09 AM (#1194205) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Amos George H.W. Bush 313 528 442 1283 Millard Fillmore 677 237 146 1060 And he's ahead of Dwight David Eisenhower, of all things. Spaw, look what you've accomplished!! A |
26 May 04 - 12:08 PM (#1194278) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 Hey......All I was after was to get Millard up there with the big guys, but this is incredible!!! All praise here to everyone who continues to vote as I do, but the "Point Man" on this has become Blackcatter who continues to do an fantastic job!!! Spaw |
26 May 04 - 12:12 PM (#1194280) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,MMario Just think in the future they might do a documentary on this - I can see it now... In the early years of the twenty-first century - a slightly eccentric man decided to encourage his fellows to vote for the Presidential Action figure most desired. And he called these fellows the "Iron Voters"... whoops! - wrong flashback... anyway - by my calculations with just a hair over 1900 votes we could have all 18 candidates currently BELOW Dubya ABOVE Dubya. |
26 May 04 - 12:21 PM (#1194286) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Well thanks Spaw. It's fun and it's something that fits with my lifestyle. I'm online nearly the entire day from 10am to 2am. I work most afternoons in another office and don't typically use the Internet there and don't vote from there. I work from home the rest of the day - managing websites, doing research and communicating with people so I'm online nearly all the time. I have a set up which reminds me about every 15 minutes or so to go and vote. Netscape Navigator has tabs so I can go back and forth. I don't vote every 15 minutes because I'm busy working too, but I've been averaging about 15 votes a day. It's fun - and it's allowed me to learn about the presidents. Plus - just think about it, they may never know that we're doing this and some day they may have a Fillmore doll - all because of us. I sure as heck will buy one! |
26 May 04 - 12:31 PM (#1194294) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Little Hawk I have two basic objectives in mind when I vote. One is to put Millard Fillmore as far up the list as he can go, and the other is to put Hillary Clinton in top position (and she's not far off!). This will increase the chances of someone manufacturing a Hillary Inflatable Doll or some other kind of Hillary doll. |
26 May 04 - 12:33 PM (#1194297) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Amos Little Hawk, of all the inflatable dolls you could command into being, why, oh why, would you want a Hillary Inflatable Doll? Obviosuly not for the usual reasons. So enlighten me... |
26 May 04 - 12:33 PM (#1194298) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Amos ...and why would you want it in the top position? |
26 May 04 - 12:40 PM (#1194302) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Little Hawk Because I want to see her on top of Laura Bush. |
26 May 04 - 12:43 PM (#1194308) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST George Washington has moved into the #2 slot. |
26 May 04 - 12:47 PM (#1194313) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Little Hawk #2 is good enough for Washington. Let's keep Bill Clinton in the old number 1 spot, cos he "feels your pain". :-) |
26 May 04 - 12:56 PM (#1194319) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,MMario only if he promises to move out of NYS |
26 May 04 - 12:59 PM (#1194325) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Ellenpoly Ah Blackcatter, the more I learn about you, the more I purr! Keep voting!..xx..e |
26 May 04 - 01:01 PM (#1194326) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Name First Second Third Total William J. Clinton 3396 508 661 4565 George Washington 1524 1578 1454 4556 Ronald Reagan 2637 1216 699 4552 Thomas Jefferson 612 1827 1484 3923 Abraham Lincoln 545 1048 1116 2709 John F. Kennedy 476 977 1050 2503 Richard Nixon 652 814 770 2236 Franklin D. Roosevelt 473 602 1079 2154 Jimmy Carter 292 1178 563 2033 Theodore Roosevelt 516 685 771 1972 George H.W. Bush 313 528 442 1283 Millard Fillmore 691 244 148 1083 L.H> - doubt that you'll have much luck keeping Clinton on top - unless you keep voting for him. I'm going to at least occasionally vote for Jefferson now to get him over Reagan but that's 600+ votes. Fillmore is only 200 away from Bush. I got to tie Geroge and Ronald, which was nice. |
26 May 04 - 01:03 PM (#1194329) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Amos You are SUCH a preevert, Little Hawk!! A |
26 May 04 - 01:19 PM (#1194338) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter So which president's deserve to be at the bottom of the list? My choices are: Reagan Bush I Bush II Nixon The guy who was alive for only a few months after getting sick on his innaugaration day (who was that?) Jackson (Big time Florida Indian killer - he's a personal choice) |
26 May 04 - 02:24 PM (#1194390) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST Will we allow our disagreements define us? I nominated Filmore as an apolitical rallying point to unify us in a nonpartisan quest for our choice in a 12" talking Presidential doll. Only the spirit of our last Whig President can heal our wounds, and bridge our differences! Keep you eye on the goal. Fillmore for Toy President! |
26 May 04 - 02:28 PM (#1194396) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST Mrs. Cleveland has moved up to nineteenth |
26 May 04 - 03:38 PM (#1194465) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Jim McCallan George Washington 1527 1586 1457 4570 William J. Clinton 3400 508 661 4569 Ronald Reagan 2637 1216 699 4552 Thomas Jefferson 613 1828 1485 3926 Abraham Lincoln 546 1048 1116 2710 John F. Kennedy 476 977 1050 2503 Richard Nixon 652 814 770 2236 Franklin D. Roosevelt 473 602 1080 2155 Jimmy Carter 293 1178 563 2034 Theodore Roosevelt 516 685 771 1972 George H.W. Bush 313 529 442 1284 Millard Fillmore 714 251 149 1114 |
26 May 04 - 04:00 PM (#1194482) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Peace Re Little Hawk being a preevert: YEAH! We had over 843 used inflatable dolls sent to his place in Ontario. He was gonna clean 'em up and forward some to a certain friend in Alberta. Has that friend seen any? Nooooo. Has that certain friend seen the goat? Nooooo. Aarrrgggghhhhh. |
26 May 04 - 04:18 PM (#1194503) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Peace Hey, LH--I will help you get Hillary elected if the doll can spend summer vacations in Alberta. |
26 May 04 - 05:18 PM (#1194530) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Hillary is on top, but Bill isn't. Kind how their lives are right now. I'm curently voting for: Fillmore (of course) Jefferson (much of the time to pass Reagan) Madison (to pass Bush) and anyone on the bottom - though not sure of McKinley - he wasn't much of a president. I'll keep voting for Frances Cleveland too - just for the heck of it, but I helped Hillary get on top. Send me one of them blow-up Hillarys too. Thought have you all seen those "Real Dolls" (google that - a love doll for $5,000). |
27 May 04 - 12:19 AM (#1194617) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Peace I vote Fillmore for first, Fillmore for second and Fillmore for third. In fact, I'm about to go do just that. |
27 May 04 - 01:06 AM (#1194637) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Brucie - have you missed the info? You can only vote for him in either 1st, 2nd or 3rd. Otherwise your vote doesn't count. That's why we've been talking about others to vote for as well. take care, |
27 May 04 - 06:22 AM (#1194764) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Hrothgar I am glad that I have managed to convince so many of you the worth of Mrs Cleveland. She is now 15th. Thank you. Only woman to marry a current president, if I remember correctly. |
27 May 04 - 07:13 AM (#1194806) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: The Fooles Troupe "Hillary is on top, but Bill isn't." ...hmmmmm... I tried to write in Mickey Mouse, but they wouldn't take that... |
27 May 04 - 08:07 AM (#1194841) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST Frances was the first First Lady to give birth during "her" term as well. |
27 May 04 - 11:22 AM (#1195054) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,MMario BTW - how about a write-in campaign for Hiedi - the Presidential Wieneramer (did I spell that correctly?) |
27 May 04 - 12:08 PM (#1195125) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Ellenpoly As to who should be at the bottom, Blackcatter, at least Jackson had the grace to die quickly. My vote for Below Bottom...is definitely Bush the Younger. ..xx..e |
27 May 04 - 12:24 PM (#1195136) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter UPDATE: TOP TIER: George Washington 1535 1594 1461 4590 William J. Clinton 3405 508 661 4574 Ronald Reagan 2640 1216 699 4555 Thomas Jefferson 617 1841 1489 3947 Jefferson is slowly moving up. THE FILLMORE WATCH: Theodore Roosevelt 517 685 771 1973 George H.W. Bush 313 530 442 1285 Millard Fillmore 774 266 166 1206 79 to go! THE FALL OF BUSH II: George W. Bush 187 94 68 349 James Madison 39 107 160 306 Madison is coming close. THE BOTTOM: Chester Arthur 42 53 93 188 Grover Cleveland 23 60 98 181 John Tyler 24 87 63 174 James Garfield 27 37 101 165 Warren Harding 36 50 67 153 Rutherford B. Hayes 25 62 65 152 Franklin Pierce 17 64 71 152 Benjamin Harrison 9 31 112 152 James Buchanan 28 50 73 151 William McKinley 10 59 82 151 Truly, most of these guys are unremarkable, but hey - SOME of them must have been better that our current pretender. |
27 May 04 - 12:34 PM (#1195149) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Metchosin I keep plugging away for poor old Eleanore, she may have been homely, but at least she had a brain. Tell us how you manage that brucie, I haven't been able to put old Fillmore in more than one slot since this thread started. |
27 May 04 - 12:37 PM (#1195155) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Brucie isn't getting any results, unless he's figured a way to confuse their computer. |
27 May 04 - 01:56 PM (#1195242) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,Scutwerker I've made a gif to inpire the Fillmor vote at the Speed boards. View it here-- America's Last Big Whig |
27 May 04 - 03:39 PM (#1195318) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST The Dozen: 1)George Washington 1535 1594 1462 4591 2)William J. Clinton 3405 508 661 4574 3)Ronald Reagan 2642 1216 699 4557 4)Thomas Jefferson 618 1845 1490 3953 5)Abraham Lincoln 546 1049 1122 2717 6)John F. Kennedy 476 977 1050 2503 7)Richard Nixon 652 814 771 2237 8)Franklin D. Roosevelt 477 603 1082 2162 9)Jimmy Carter 294 1179 563 2036 10)Theodore Roosevelt 517 685 771 1973 11)George H.W. Bush 313 530 442 1285 12)Millard Fillmore 800 268 168 1236 please note - less then 50 votes to put Millard above George to Elder. the "middle class" George W. Bush 187 94 68 349 James Madison 41 120 165 326 The pits: James Garfield 27 38 102 167 Warren Harding 36 50 70 156 Rutherford B. Hayes 25 62 69 156 Franklin Pierce 17 65 74 156 William McKinley 11 61 84 156 Benjamin Harrison 9 31 116 156 James Buchanan 28 51 76 155 |
27 May 04 - 04:38 PM (#1195339) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Irish sergeant Blackcatter: Hate to correct you but John Kerry is a veteran of the navy he was a lieutenant on a riverine gunboat during the Vietnam war. Eisenhower served in WWI, Taylor served in the War of 1812 and the Semonole Indian war and Grant was a Company Commander in the 4th United States infantry in the Mexican War. Kindest regards Neil (your friendly neighborhood Irish sergeant) |
27 May 04 - 05:36 PM (#1195383) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Little Hawk That's right humble of you, Irish...most of us just LOVE correcting people! :-) Man, those Real Dolls are...um...well, it's amazing what lonely people will spend $5,000 on, isn't it? She's stacked, she's packed, and she never talks back! Every redneck's dream. But kin she cook yer dinner and wash yer socks? Ah think not. Hmmm...way-ull, ah think she's still worth thet fahv thayausand big ones! Yup. Gonna git me one of them Real Dolls soon's I cash in all them Coors returnable bottles ah got ayaout theyer in th' bayack sheyed... I note that they do not have one that looks like Margaret Thatcher. Bruce, I think the goat has gone AWOL. Too bad. Now that Hillary is in first place I have high hopes of getting an anatomically correct Hillary action figure by next Christmas. |
27 May 04 - 05:59 PM (#1195404) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter You're right Irish S. - Shows you how much I pay attention to the Kerry ads and all. Interesting isn't it that we've have Navy men all in a row? Especially since the Navy dates from the revolution, yet no Navy vet made it to the presidenwcy until the 1960s. As for the rest - thanks - I was mostly going for the service experience that gave them their highest rank. I didn't know until I did the research that Lincoln served in the military. I love learning new things. |
27 May 04 - 06:34 PM (#1195427) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Do you all realize that Fillmore is ranked #4 in first place votes? And I've been voting for him in the 2nd or 3rd spot for quite a while now to sort of even it out (and hopefully make the company think that he has a broad level of supportamong hundreds of people - not just a few freaks). And Vote for Madison he's close to passing "our current pretender." |
27 May 04 - 06:53 PM (#1195438) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 Only 25 votes to put Millard up another notch!!! WE CAN DO IT TONITE!!!! The folks over on the SPEED Boards are going great guns on this too and between the two groups, Millard never had it so good!!! Spaw |
27 May 04 - 07:17 PM (#1195452) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Peace OK, so I finally read the directions and that is why my last 39 votes for Fillmore haven't counted. So you gals know, I am a real guy. I am now going to vote for Fillmore and two other non-contenders. |
27 May 04 - 07:21 PM (#1195453) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Peace 24 votes to pass Bush. YES. |
27 May 04 - 07:50 PM (#1195466) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Gerald Ford 34 82 129 245 James Monroe 18 58 151 227 Herbert Hoover 86 62 78 226 Monroe just passed Hoover (never liked that guy - I still call it the Boulder Dam). |
27 May 04 - 08:18 PM (#1195488) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 Jimmy Carter 294 1179 563 2036 Theodore Roosevelt 517 685 771 1973 George H.W. Bush 313 530 442 1285 Millard Fillmore 820 269 176 1265 There it is folks!! Millard only 20 votes behind and we will go over tonight!!! C'mon.....Just a few more votes will do it!! AND THEN IT'S TIME TO GIVE OL' SPAW A BIRTHDAY PRESENT!!!! That's right!!! I ain't shy and I'm asking for my birthday present now!!! On June 8th I will be hitting the "Double Nickel" and I can think of nothing better than to put Millard ahead of Teddy Roosevelt. Or...Dare I say it? Even the Peanut Farmer as well???? How about it? PLEASE?!?!?!?!?!?!? ....gimmee..gimmee..gimmee..gimmee.... Spaw _________________ |
27 May 04 - 08:23 PM (#1195491) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Peace Spaw, thanks for sayin' that. I will eats food that leads to the condition referred to in polite company as 'flatulence'. I will do my best to rip one in your honour on June 8. I hope to have nothin' left of my shorts but the elastic band. I just voted for him again. He was at 1268 a minute ago. Bruce M |
27 May 04 - 08:24 PM (#1195493) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: pdq I voted for Mamie Van Doren for first lady. Also nominated her for first choice in inflateable doll category. Damn, ain't democracy grand! |
27 May 04 - 08:33 PM (#1195500) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Irish sergeant Yeah but will they have an anotomically correct monica lewinski doll? Irish sergeant |
27 May 04 - 08:34 PM (#1195501) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter 15 to go. 688 more to pass Teddy Roosevelt - who was an f-in' liar concerning the Spanish American War anyhow (though American's first conservationist president). |
27 May 04 - 08:38 PM (#1195502) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Little Hawk They ALL lied about that one! It was equivalent to rolling an old drunk with his pockets full of valuable possessions (like Cuba, the Phillipines, Puerto Rico, etc...). Spain had no chance whatsoever in that war of national convenience. America even had "Butcher Wyler"...the Saddam of his day...with which to infuriate the righteous masses stateside. (He was the commanding Spanish general in Cuba, known for his ruthless counter-insurgencey efforts against the Cuban rebels...who were slowly winning anyway.) Okay, I'm off to vote again for Millard! |
27 May 04 - 09:10 PM (#1195525) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Peace I voted again. I love this. |
27 May 04 - 09:25 PM (#1195531) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Little Hawk Fillmore has only 9 more votes to go to knock off Bush the Elder! Scrub the Shrub!!! And his dad too! |
27 May 04 - 09:56 PM (#1195554) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 Only 3 to go to pass Mr. Wimpy!! Then a charge up the hill after Teddy!!! I want Teddy for my birthday......and Jimmy too!!! Spaw |
27 May 04 - 10:00 PM (#1195559) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter I tied them - sumbuddy vote damn you! |
27 May 04 - 10:01 PM (#1195560) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Little Hawk YEAHHHHHH!!!!! |
27 May 04 - 10:14 PM (#1195569) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter I put him past too. |
27 May 04 - 10:19 PM (#1195575) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Little Hawk Well, folks, it's a hell of a long haul to catch Teddy Roosevelt. I say we take a well-earned rest and give serious thought as to whether or not to continue in this noble effort. |
27 May 04 - 10:29 PM (#1195581) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Sounds good L.H. - I'll just keep voting in the meantime. |
27 May 04 - 10:40 PM (#1195587) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 HEY!!! UP YOURS HAWKSTER!!!! I WANT TEDDY AND JIMMY FOR MY BIRTHDAY...JUNE 8!!! C'mon now Gang, just a little more and Millard is in the TOP TEN!!! We've come this far, only one position to go!!!! Spaw |
27 May 04 - 10:55 PM (#1195595) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Little Hawk Why flirt with me when you've still got the weimaraners? |
27 May 04 - 11:33 PM (#1195610) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 I was hoping you could learn something from them, that's why!! As they are blessed with both brains and beauty along with monstrous amounts of genetically acquired talent, they might serve as a guiding light in your so far disastrous attempts at self improvement You are zero for three so I was hoping my hounds might be a good influence on you. Spaw |
27 May 04 - 11:44 PM (#1195616) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter y'all could be voting instead of flirting . . . I've voted 24 times so far today (I have at least 5 more votes in me today) |
28 May 04 - 09:55 AM (#1195888) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,MMario heck - a measly 645 votes in the next 8 days? If we can't do that we aren't worth the flame off a stale fart! |
28 May 04 - 10:24 AM (#1195910) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Ellenpoly I can vote and flirt at the same time...does that make me ambisextrious?..xx..e |
28 May 04 - 11:20 AM (#1195958) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Just keep going Ellen! yowza! |
28 May 04 - 01:20 PM (#1196041) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Little Hawk Whaddya mean, I'm "zero for three", Spaw? That's grossly untrue. I am more like 4 or 5 for 896 at this point. I am not the kind to give up after merely 3 attempts. |
28 May 04 - 01:30 PM (#1196047) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 Just about 600 fo put Millie in the Top Ten!! VOTE AGAIN and AGAIN.......and know that every vote is a vote for complete insanity! Spaw |
28 May 04 - 08:44 PM (#1196362) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 Millard has 1412 votes!!! he picked up over 50 today but we can do even better than that!! VOTE NOW AND VOTE OFTEN Spaw |
28 May 04 - 10:29 PM (#1196409) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter I'm still voting - and I'm voting HURT! |
28 May 04 - 11:51 PM (#1196449) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Theodore Roosevelt 517 686 786 1989 Millard Fillmore 918 296 215 1429 560 left |
29 May 04 - 12:48 AM (#1196471) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Jim McCallan He's in 11th place... |
29 May 04 - 12:53 PM (#1196543) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Here's some voting suggestions: Richard Nixon 659 834 774 2267 Franklin D. Roosevelt 495 610 1088 2193 Put FDR over Nixon! Theodore Roosevelt 517 686 787 1990 Millard Fillmore 925 296 220 1441 The obvious one! Only 550 to go to pass Teddy. George W. Bush 190 95 69 354 James Polk 74 117 107 298 I don't care for Polk (although there's a fine county in Florida named after him), but let's put him pass Dumbya. Gerald Ford 34 84 131 249 Herbert Hoover 86 62 81 229 Chester Arthur 43 67 107 217 And vote for Arthur - soon to pass Hoover And not that Ford was all that bad, but he pardoned Nixon! |
29 May 04 - 10:56 PM (#1196879) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Come on - Only 33 votes in 10 hours? Hell more than half of them were by me! VOTE! Theodore Roosevelt 517 686 795 1998 Millard Fillmore 929 302 243 1474 |
29 May 04 - 11:03 PM (#1196882) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 I've voted at least 8 or 9 times today....just did again.......Maybe if we can keep this alive til after the holiday, we'll get some more folks around. The SPEED people are pretty quiet now because it's a big racing weekend. Maybe after that I can get them going again as well. Hang in BC.....We can do this!! Spaw |
29 May 04 - 11:31 PM (#1196898) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter We'll I'm gearing up for tomorrow as well. I haven't had my regular NASCAR fix since the week before Mom's day. I'll probalby watch part of the Indy 500, but I won't get home from church till well after it's started. |
29 May 04 - 11:49 PM (#1196903) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Who in the hell is voting for Teddy? Spaw if that continues, I can't promiseyou you're birthday present. |
30 May 04 - 12:33 AM (#1196916) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 I just saw that as well BC. Not good at all..... Spaw |
30 May 04 - 05:03 PM (#1197284) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Vote! |
30 May 04 - 05:45 PM (#1197306) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Peace I have been voting for Fillard Willmore, too. At least 16 times in the past 36 hours. Click the mouse next time you guys. Or Spaw will be heartbroken on his special day, June 8. When the going gets tough, the tough cheat. Anyone know how? |
30 May 04 - 05:48 PM (#1197308) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST They tell the electorate things they think they want to hear |
30 May 04 - 06:44 PM (#1197339) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Little Hawk Exactly. That is the political method. They also tell them really negative stuff about the opposing candidates, and they usually promise to lower your taxes or at least not raise them. Ha! How can a society that is overloading the natural environment and enlarging its greedy grasp on reality with every fiscal year and growing LARGER all the time POSSIBLY cut taxes? Answer: It can't. One way or another the cost of such a society keeps going up. I refuse to vote for anyone who promises to cut my taxes, because I know a blatant lie when I hear it. They'll cut in one place, raise in another. They'll privatize public services, and those services will go to the private sector which will then do a worse job and charge you more for it. Lots more! After all, they want to make a profit, don't they? Duh. Where is their profit going to come from? From you, sucker! The way to get ahead in life financially is to cut your own frivolous personal spending...but that would require a little restraint and maturity, wouldn't it? Naw...people would rather vote for some liar who says he's going to lower their taxes than be realistic themselves and lower their own spending. A vote for Fillard Millmore will do nothing to alter any of the above, but it will certainly confuse the toy company... :-) |
30 May 04 - 07:20 PM (#1197363) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Peace A vote for Fillmore is a vote for . . . Willmore. It doesn't get ANY CLEARER than that. We could be altering the course of world history . . . . The year is 2048. The world is a shattered ruin. Liebowitz finds a doll. It is . . . YES, you guessed it, Millard Fillmore. Enscribed on the doll is a small plaque that reads, "Most popular President of the United States of America." In the corner is a malodorous fellow who contents himself watching reruns of Nascar programs. He is alone, because no one wants to sit near him. He has a lower sphincter that no longer operates as a one-way valve. It is the sound of air rushing in followed by the squealing of air rushing out that drives folks away from him. He is a man with no name. History, in its manner, has forgotten that he led the campaign to have Fillmore achieve greatness. All folks knew was that June 8 held a special place in his heart. Yeah. This whole thing that started as the sick suggestion of a guy who has a tenuous grasp on sanity could very well change the course of human events. I can't believe I just wrote this shit. Nor can I believe I am posting it. Here's to Dillard Millfore, President par excellence. |
30 May 04 - 07:29 PM (#1197372) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Who needs NASCAR reruns? We've hoy 224 laps to go right now and Jimmy Johnsons leading the way. Hee yah! |
30 May 04 - 08:01 PM (#1197380) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Little Hawk Dillwood Millfore is definitely a name that will not be forgotten. I find it interesting to note that George W. Bush is surprisingly low in the standings, given the fact that he IS the current president of the Empire. |
30 May 04 - 08:27 PM (#1197395) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter We've got a bit of a problems at the moment folks: Theodore Roosevelt 527 695 810 2032 Millard Fillmore 942 309 261 1512 Last time I listed it was: Roosevelt: 1998 Fillmore: 1474 Checking the numbers, we've only put Fillmore 4 votes closer to Teddy overall. That's basically 34 votes that didn't count. A pretty crappy result. Maybe people are doing it as a joke - I dunno, I dunno. |
30 May 04 - 09:34 PM (#1197422) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,Totally Disgusted!!! You are going to pay BIGTIME for starting this ridiculous promotion of Millard FUCKING Fillmore! Don't you know you're committing massive voting fraud? I guess you think if Bush can do it you can do it, right? Well you've got another think coming. I am TOTALLY DISGUSTED!!!!!!!!!! I am going to stop you people. ANYBODY BUT FILLMORE! Vote ABF! Do it now. Stop Millard the Dillard in his sorry tracks and save America! (p.s. Vote strategically. A vote for anyone who is above Fillmore in the standings will do, but a vote for Teddy Roosevelt is particulary timely.) I am TOTALLY DISGUSTED!!!!!!!!!! |
31 May 04 - 11:35 AM (#1197648) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Reagan Nazis have discovered the voting and put him back on top. Fillmore is loosing ground, but he's still solidly ahead of G H W Bush. |
31 May 04 - 05:54 PM (#1197894) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Little Hawk Oddly enough, George Washington and Ronald Reagan have been duking it out for top spot. My feeling is that Washington could've swept Reagan from the field any day, specially given the fact that he had a lot more battlefield experience and could remember what day of the week it was without the teleprompter... |
31 May 04 - 06:40 PM (#1197931) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Peace Dear Totally Disgusted: I am a man of honour. I have promised Spaw that I would try to make his birthday wish become a reality. That's the way it is--unless you are talkin' bucks. In which case, message me. NO cheques. Cash only! One who believes in the free enterprise system. Billy "Diebold", the Third. |
31 May 04 - 07:05 PM (#1197948) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Little Hawk Spoken like a true American! :-) Bill the Butcher would be proud of you, Bruce...which reminds me, he should go on my "Bill" thread. |
02 Jun 04 - 08:32 AM (#1198433) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST refresh. Theodore Roosevelt 635 700 821 2156 Jimmy Carter 300 1191 574 2065 Millard Fillmore 1026 334 282 1642 |
03 Jun 04 - 08:30 AM (#1199132) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST Frances has made it into the top 10 - 86 votes needed to push her to number nine. 346 votes needed for Millard to move up a slot. 44 votes needed to move monroe past Bush. |
03 Jun 04 - 02:16 PM (#1199513) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST there's an 8-way race going on for last place. |
03 Jun 04 - 04:18 PM (#1199601) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,MMario Nice to see that Frances Cleveland has picked up 50 votes in the last day - Here's the top section: George Washington 1600 1779 1501 4880 Ronald Reagan 2716 1259 870 4845 William J. Clinton 3501 537 702 4740 the High middle section: Jimmy Carter 302 1194 576 2072 Millard Fillmore 1154 355 286 1795 George H.W. Bush 321 535 448 1304 The low middle section: James Monroe 41 142 177 360 George W. Bush 191 97 69 357 Woodrow Wilson 47 131 106 284 And the basement boys - James Buchanan 204 James Garfield William McKinley Benjamin Harrison 202 Grover Cleveland Franklin Pierce 201 Warren Harding Rutherford B. Hayes 200 |
04 Jun 04 - 09:13 AM (#1200164) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST currenlty Millard needs 244 votes to move up one slot, 396 to move up two. |
04 Jun 04 - 10:05 AM (#1200216) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST correction 416 votes to pass Teddy |
04 Jun 04 - 10:30 AM (#1200236) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter And we've only got to the 6th, I beleive to give Spaw his birthday present. . . |
04 Jun 04 - 10:46 AM (#1200249) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,Scutwerker Help! We've got to Fillmore him past that grinning master of malaise from Plains Ga. Vote now. Spaw's sphincter will more than likely blow out anyway, but at least we can help him blow out his birthday candles with joy. He's not asking for much, just a vote every half hour. |
04 Jun 04 - 11:13 AM (#1200283) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,MMario I'm confidant we can get Millard past Jimmy - but would like to be able to "give" 'spaw Teddy as well. it's the eighth that's his b'day. |
07 Jun 04 - 02:44 PM (#1202183) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST less then 100 votes needed to pass Jimmy |
07 Jun 04 - 05:32 PM (#1202276) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 I'm votin'!!!! PUT MILLARD IN 10th PLACE!!!!! Spaw |
07 Jun 04 - 05:45 PM (#1202291) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter damn - Reagan's on top again. I guess Washington has to die to get up there. Oh, wait. . . |
08 Jun 04 - 05:10 AM (#1202551) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Hrothgar Frances is 9th |
08 Jun 04 - 11:02 AM (#1202730) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: MMario I suspect from the way some of the numbers have changed that there are a bunch of "new" visitors to the site |
08 Jun 04 - 11:25 AM (#1202740) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: MMario HUzzah for Chester Arthur |
08 Jun 04 - 02:08 PM (#1202835) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: jeffp Millard Fillmore has moved into the #10 spot. Happy Birthday Spaw!!!!! |
08 Jun 04 - 02:13 PM (#1202838) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST in other news.... George Washington 1636 1881 1518 5035 Ronald Reagan 2758 1262 1013 5033 Woodrow Wilson 54 173 141 368 George W. Bush 195 99 72 366 John Tyler 31 163 129 323 Laura Welch Bush 2551 Hilliary Rodham Clinton 2338 Nancy Davis Reagan 1789 Jacqueline Kennedy 1254 Elizabeth Bloomer Ford 1088 Barbara Pierce Bush 618 Martha Washington 593 Frances Folsom Cleveland 582 |
08 Jun 04 - 03:59 PM (#1202913) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 A great day!!! Spaw |
09 Jun 04 - 04:58 AM (#1203349) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Hrothgar Fran is 7th. Happy birthday, Spaw. |
09 Jun 04 - 10:20 AM (#1203555) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST frances is 6th |
09 Jun 04 - 05:32 PM (#1203877) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 Millard is moving still and now is NOT the time to slack off!! We can put this great man into 5th place before the month is out with only 550 votes!!! Let's go for the Big Banana!!!!!!! Spaw |
10 Jun 04 - 04:25 AM (#1204156) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 Hey now.....C'mon.....I know it's getting old, but let's not quit on this thing just yet!!! Spaw |
10 Jun 04 - 10:16 AM (#1204307) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: MMario sorry 'spaw - I'm taking a hiatus for Mystic Music Festival - back on the voting rolls Tuesday - I promise! |
10 Jun 04 - 11:01 AM (#1204351) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter Here's the tally George Washington 1653 1909 1547 5109 Ronald Reagan 2783 1262 1059 5104 William J. Clinton 3505 545 711 4761 Thomas Jefferson 640 1949 1558 4147 Abraham Lincoln 550 1065 1146 2761 Richard Nixon 860 894 826 2580 John F. Kennedy 482 979 1061 2522 Theodore Roosevelt 746 851 840 2437 Franklin D. Roosevelt 544 652 1120 2316 Millard Fillmore 1521 390 316 2227 I've been voting for Fillmore, Washington and Kennedy. Got to keep Washington on top. I know that voting for Kennedy sort of infringes on Fillmore, but I want both of them on top of Nixon. It shows you just how screwed up some Republicans are - voting for a man who resigned in shame from being president. |
10 Jun 04 - 04:11 PM (#1204579) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: jeffp I compared the presidents who are still ahead of our boy Millard and found that all but one are currently available or in production. That leaves only FDR as the one to beat to get Fillmore into production. Just think of it! A mere 76 votes will do that! Getting him on top of all of them would be fantastic, but getting him produced will be a victory also. God, what a lunatic bunch we are! Isn't this fun? jeffp |
18 Jun 04 - 09:45 AM (#1209857) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST eighth |
23 Jun 04 - 10:46 AM (#1212888) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST look fast - he's at number six! SEE? |
23 Jun 04 - 10:56 AM (#1212902) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: el ted Post no 300. I thank you. |
24 Jun 04 - 08:52 AM (#1213485) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 How about a few more votes???? The group over at SPEED has kept the voting for Millard going and we are now in sixth place....believe it or not!!!!!! Passing Tricky Dick is now only 50 or so votes away and that puts us waaaaay up there. The next jump becomes pretty big but taking fifth is not too far away. How about a little extra help from here where so many have voted in the past? We'll be passing 300 votes in just a very few votes and that in itself is a milestone. Vote Milly in the 1 spot and your coice for slots 2 and 3. Try to vote for Abby Fillmore for first lady if you would???? C'mon Gang....One more push!!!! CLICK HERE AND VOTE FOR MILLARD Spaw |
24 Jun 04 - 09:02 AM (#1213490) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST And abondon poor Frances? |
24 Jun 04 - 10:44 AM (#1213534) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST someone is a real assh*le - and it ain't tricky dick |
24 Jun 04 - 02:05 PM (#1213643) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,MMario the next step up is a measly 13 hundred and 28 votes. vote early - vote late, vote often! |
24 Jun 04 - 02:53 PM (#1213679) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: catspaw49 Yeah Mario.....and I was satisfied with 10th or 12th!!! The group over at Speed are wanting to go for at least a podium finish (3rd at least in other words. So I guess I'll keep on voting....... I do love how ludicrous his name looks up there in 5th!!!!LMAO!!! Spaw |
25 Jun 04 - 01:35 AM (#1213952) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: darkriver 694 votes needed to pass The Great Contaminator, but our boy's on his way to the podium! Name First Second Third Total Reagan 2924 1377 1278 5579 Washington 1751 2008 1620 5379 Clinton 3512 549 714 4775 Jefferson 655 2066 1653 4374 Fillmore 2299 438 351 3088 |
06 Jul 04 - 06:46 AM (#1219821) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Hrothgar People have stopped voting for my chick, Frances. Very disappointing. |
06 Jul 04 - 08:12 AM (#1219866) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,MMario jeez-louise Hrothgar - I'm still voting for her - but it's d*mn hard to cast a ballot from Warwick in 1585! |
06 Jul 04 - 05:35 PM (#1220176) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: SINSULL Blackcatterr, Kennedy and Fillmore on top of Nixon shows how screwed up the republicans are?That picture puts Monica and Bill in the Oval Office to shame. 3 More Votes For Millard! |
06 Jul 04 - 05:39 PM (#1220178) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: SINSULL Millard is only 300 votes behind Ronnie Raygun for 1st Place. If every Catter voted once in all three catagories... |
06 Jul 04 - 05:45 PM (#1220185) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,Oliver Whistlemore You rotten, despicable, troublemaking people! You'll all be sorry for this one day. We at Toypresidents will see to that, rest assured. |
06 Jul 04 - 05:55 PM (#1220195) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Jeri I wouldn't be too worried about it, OWie. When the Millard doll comes out, we can all buy one for Spaw. Imagine how happy he'd be to receive a few hundred Fillmore figures! I wonder what a tallking Millard Fillmore doll would say, anyway. I wonder if, since nobody probably remembers what the old dude sounded like, you could maybe have him sing the hamster-dance song. Consider your market, sir! |
06 Jul 04 - 05:56 PM (#1220196) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: MMario This convinces me all the more that Millard deserves his recognition! |
06 Jul 04 - 06:05 PM (#1220204) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,Oliver Whistlemore I HAVE considered my market! To tool and manufacture a figure of Millard Fillmore would be an act of utter folly. Virtually no one would buy it, because the average American doesn't know who Millard Fillmore is! We are running a toy company here, not a lunatic asylum! What is wong with you people? Why aren't you doing something useful instead of coming to our website and voting for Millard Fillmore? |
06 Jul 04 - 07:05 PM (#1220241) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: SINSULL Everyone in East Aurora, NY will want one. By the way, I actually did contact the East Aurora Historical Society, local schools, and Chamber of Commerce to get their participation, None of them returned my email. |
07 Jul 04 - 08:12 AM (#1220556) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,MMario Oliver - on your web-page you stated the final intention was to produce ALL the presidents. Were you lying? And Millard deserves to be recognized. |
07 Jul 04 - 08:19 AM (#1220561) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: kendall He just got my vote. |
07 Jul 04 - 10:04 AM (#1220656) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,Oliver Whistlemore It is true, Mario, that our original intention was to produce action figures of all the Presidents of this great nation. However, we wanted to respond in a proper procedural fashion to the genuine desires of the American public and produce those figures according to popular demand, in a sequence that would be proportionate to that popular demand. What we have here is a conspiracy by a bunch of morons who have decided to stack the deck and vote for Millard Fillmore over and over again not because they actually believe he was a great President, but merely in order to play a pointless practical joke which lampoons our great traditions! This cannot be allowed to continue. We are going to smoke out these scoundrels and put a stop to their shenanigans. |
07 Jul 04 - 12:29 PM (#1220767) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: SINSULL I think shennanigans has an extra "n". Maybe not. But isn't that the name of the South Park ritual during which culprits are beaten with brooms? Anyway, as I see it, the real problem here is that you idiots are only voting 1st place for Millard. Had you voted him in all 3 slots, he would be winning. And all you UKers and Canadians. You finally have a chance to voice your opinion in a US election and what do you do? Sit back and watch! Not acceptable. Vote now and vote often. |
07 Jul 04 - 12:49 PM (#1220788) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,MMario who have decided to stack the deck and vote for Millard Fillmore over and over again not because they actually believe he was a great President a vile calumny! READ the thread. A great deal of information has been posted explaining WHY it would be a good thing to promote Millard. Talk about stacking the deck - what about the 1000 plus votesz that came in the weekend of Reagan's death? That was entirely media driven! |
15 Jul 04 - 11:14 AM (#1226136) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter They've changed the voting! We can no longer vote for presidents who's dolls the company already makes. They haven't changed the results to George Washington is effectively on top of Reagan forever. I wish I could have gotten Lincoln over Nixon though. Keep voting for Fillmore though. It's just gotten a bit easier sicne Clinton, Reagan and Washington cannot be added to. |
15 Jul 04 - 03:23 PM (#1226334) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,MMario hey SPAW! need a ruling here... technically Millard is now #1 of those who can be voted for - do we bring him up through the non-votable ranks - or do we switch to re-arranging the list according to |
15 Jul 04 - 03:28 PM (#1226338) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Little Hawk I don't think he gets to be in the nonvotable ranks unless they decide to produce an action figure of him. They would have to be very stupid to make that decision. :-) Hardly anyone would buy it, and tooling is expensive. This means that Millard Fillmore may eventually attain unheard-of voting totals if people keep voting for him! He could theoretically reach 10,000 votes! He could achieve notoriety for NOT having been released as an action figure, despite getting the most votes. What will they do? The World waits with bated breath! |
15 Jul 04 - 03:34 PM (#1226343) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST according to their main site they plan to do all the prezzes. Just the ORDER to be determined by voting. |
15 Jul 04 - 03:41 PM (#1226356) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Little Hawk Well then, they are definitely not very bright. Why does that not surprise me? Man, I can see it, years from now...warehouses full to the rafters with millions of unsold little Millard Fillmores sitting sadly in their little packages! That never happened with the James T. Kirk action figures. They sold out. If you can get hold of #0000001 James T. Kirk Action Figure, First Edition, you could sell it on Ebay for enough to buy an island in Tahiti. A Millard Fillmore won't be worth the plastic it took to make it. |
15 Jul 04 - 03:46 PM (#1226360) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST sorta like most politicians |
15 Jul 04 - 03:47 PM (#1226362) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: SINSULL Mrs. Fillmore is only 36 votes below JackieO. Come on guys. We can do it. Over the top! |
15 Jul 04 - 06:16 PM (#1226484) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter I'd buy a Millard Fillmore doll just to hear him speak. I've already applied to the company to be the voice of Millard. |
15 Jul 04 - 07:23 PM (#1226518) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Metchosin I'd buy a Millard Fillmore doll just so I could feel what it was like to own a President, just like those of the military-industrial complex. Of course, I'd like to add a few of my own additions to his vocabulary, but then, I wouldn't have to wonder what Millard Fillmore would say......so it would probably spoil the fun. |
15 Jul 04 - 10:09 PM (#1226625) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter George Washington 1872 2116 1725 5713 Ronald Reagan 2974 1394 1295 5663 William J. Clinton 3567 555 724 4846 Thomas Jefferson 760 2168 1720 4648 Millard Fillmore 3082 503 418 4003 We broke 4000! |
15 Jul 04 - 10:13 PM (#1226628) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter The standings that I posted the day after we were asked to aid the cause: George W. Bush 187 88 60 335 Millard Fillmore 100 106 114 320 John Quincy Adams 43 101 115 259 |
28 Jul 04 - 10:38 AM (#1235524) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST,Scutwerker In the past month, Millard has moved past Thomas Jefferson to fourth place in the overall standings and is NUMBER ONE in first place votes. He only needs about 40 votes to pass Clinton in the overall standings. www.toypresidents.com removed the names of the existing dolls from the voting list so that Reagan, Clinton, Dubya, TR, Lincoln and Kennedy, can no longer garner any more votes. First place overall is well within our grasp. Then Spaw and I can surely have a 12 inch Millard to dress in our daughter's Barbie clothes. |
28 Jul 04 - 10:43 AM (#1235526) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: GUEST 35 |
28 Jul 04 - 05:41 PM (#1235845) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: Blackcatter close to 800 left! |
29 Jul 04 - 04:30 PM (#1236569) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: SINSULL So close. So Close. SO CLOSE!!!! Come on guys! Let's knock Nancy out and put Abby on top. |
22 Apr 09 - 08:09 AM (#2616225) Subject: RE: BS: NEED HELP--Vote for Millard Fillmore From: SINSULL All righht! Pay attention! Another black horse candidate has arisen and nneeds our attention. Peter Sousa, the New England crazy person aka shanty singer aka Doryman works with Joann his wife on the restoration of the schooner Adventure. They are up for funding from American Express. VOTE! The Adventure is planned to be a travelling museum of nautical lore, law, music, whatever, Millard would vote if he could. Here's the link: http://www.partnersinpreservation.com/boston/index.php?sec=vot There are two threads on this one above and one below the line. SEARCH "shantyman" and you will find it. VOTE and VOTE often. please... |