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BS: England - France

13 Jun 04 - 04:39 PM (#1206364)
Subject: BS: England - France
From: Ranks

Shit happens


13 Jun 04 - 04:43 PM (#1206368)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Peace

Yeah. So, who won?


13 Jun 04 - 04:44 PM (#1206370)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: s&r

who won what?


13 Jun 04 - 04:44 PM (#1206371)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: The Shambles

If you are one goal up at 90mins, you might expect to concede a goal and draw the game. To concede two and lose it....."**!!


13 Jun 04 - 04:46 PM (#1206372)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Ranks

Bruice, I suppose you live at the other end of the world.
England was leading up to the 90th Minute. Beckham missed a penalty in the second half. Zidane scored a free-Kick in the 91st minute. In the 93rd Minute he scored a penalty after a terrible mistake of the English defense.


13 Jun 04 - 04:50 PM (#1206373)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Peace

OK, Ranks, thanks. I saw both Edmonton and Montreal lose a few like that and I know it hurts.


13 Jun 04 - 05:03 PM (#1206385)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: akenaton

Sorry for the England team who deserved a draw.
Very pleased for the TV pundits, who had the game all wrapped up for England, even to the extent of imagining what the crowd chants would be next year. Not that Im saying they were biased of anything!!
Sanctimonious farts!!


13 Jun 04 - 05:12 PM (#1206390)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Rasener

Beckham should be dropped. He is a tosser. He should have scored the penalty. He earns enough money. He is a tw*t.
second time he has let us down.
Gary Neville should join him. What a gormless idiot he is!!!!!!!!!


13 Jun 04 - 05:18 PM (#1206393)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Wolfgang

Zidane was better than Beckham.

The English shouldn't be too disappointed. The comments in Germany:

If the final is as good as this game was we can be glad (Beckenbauer).
I see neither Switserland nor Croatia beating one of these two teams (commentator).

Wolfgang


13 Jun 04 - 05:24 PM (#1206397)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: ard mhacha

Relax Villian,England should have no problem qualifying, Croatia and Switzerland are two very ordinary sides, old Stan Lynn wouldn`t have let the French in with time almost up.
The tears are tripping me, a good laugh is wonderful to go to sleep on.


13 Jun 04 - 05:25 PM (#1206398)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: greg stephens

Oct 21 1805


13 Jun 04 - 05:26 PM (#1206400)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Rasener

ard mhacha

How do you know about stan lynn

Are you a brummy? :=)


13 Jun 04 - 05:26 PM (#1206401)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: akenaton

Villian...Dont blame Beckham for the penalty miss,he struck the ball well,Barthes guessed correctly,end of story.
If you want to blame anyone ,blame Eriksson, who took off Rooney, the only man who posed a danger to the French on the break.
Although England played well defensively, France were well ahead on chances created and thats what matters in modern football...Ake


13 Jun 04 - 05:29 PM (#1206403)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Rasener

I blame him because he earns a fortune and should have put it away.
I wish I could earn what he does for being a failure.


13 Jun 04 - 05:35 PM (#1206406)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: C-flat

I think Rooney needed to come off before he blew a fuse and got sent off. I agree that he looked our best prospect though.
To be fair we were hanging on by the skin of our teeth for a large part of the game. It just seemed more cruel that it all went tits-up in the last few minutes.
Both Beckham and Owen were dissapointing when we needed a massive showing from them.


13 Jun 04 - 05:43 PM (#1206413)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Wolfgang

Didn't Beckham and Barthez play for a long time in the same team?

Then Beckham's mistake was to try the penalty at all. Never shoot a penalty against a goalie who knows you too well.

Wolfgang


13 Jun 04 - 05:48 PM (#1206421)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Rasener

You got it Wolfgang. Beckham has no brains :-)


13 Jun 04 - 05:58 PM (#1206429)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: GUEST,Pierre

Viva La France!!


13 Jun 04 - 05:59 PM (#1206431)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Rasener

Boo locks and all that cheese and garlic :-(


13 Jun 04 - 06:04 PM (#1206435)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: GUEST

French women wish to make love with the English football team.

On the grounds that they can stay on top for 90 minutes and still come second.

Dave


13 Jun 04 - 06:07 PM (#1206438)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Peace

LOL


13 Jun 04 - 06:41 PM (#1206469)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Ed.

The 'nazi salutes' of a certain secton of the crowd, whilst singing "God Save the Queen" makes me, sadly, quite glad that we lost.


13 Jun 04 - 06:50 PM (#1206480)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: harvey andrews

Wolfgang made one of my points. The other is that there should have been at least one player on the post for the French 2nd goal. Both decisions the manager obviously rejected.


13 Jun 04 - 07:18 PM (#1206497)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Ed.

The second goal was a penalty. I don't think that you're allowed to have players "on the post" in such situations...


13 Jun 04 - 08:41 PM (#1206535)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: McGrath of Harlow

The 'nazi salutes' of a certain secton of the crowd, whilst singing "God Save the Queen"...

I thought they had both hands stretched out, in the shot on TV, not just the one. Which would mean they weren't actually "nazi salutes".

A penalty that is saved is not the same as a penalty that is missed. That was a bloody good save.


13 Jun 04 - 09:01 PM (#1206543)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: GUEST,Seaking

At this point it would have been nice to be enjoying some consolation from the weekend's Rugby Union Test results.

Oh well, there's always Wimbledon and Tim to cheer us all up.....

(Good Cricket result though..)


14 Jun 04 - 01:55 AM (#1206636)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: The Shambles

Thing good thing appears to be that the travelling supporters did not create trouble, unlike many so-called fans at home - after watching the game on pub TVs and getting drunk.

Rooney was a plus, looking like a young Zidane, but he had done enough by that point and was simply not able to chase and hold the ball up. I think Wolfgang may have a point about the penalty taker. The goal keeper took an (educated) guess and was right. Had he not been well known to the keeper, he may well have guesed wrong. But the French defender (yet another Man Utd player) should have been sent off, as the last man. This should have been a goal and would have changed everything. But this would have made a good final - let us hope that it still may.....


14 Jun 04 - 03:43 AM (#1206668)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: GUEST,Sarah

Brilliant example of how to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory!

We're very good at that.

Cheers
Sarah


14 Jun 04 - 03:52 AM (#1206670)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Folkiedave

The English football team and Sheffield United share the feature of reliability.

They always let you down on the big occasions.

Dave
www.collectorsfolk.co.uk


14 Jun 04 - 04:08 AM (#1206676)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Teribus

As stated above early days and both England and France should qualify from this group.


14 Jun 04 - 04:38 AM (#1206682)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: GUEST

Rooney looking like a young Zidane? Looking like a young potato as usual....though he did play his socks off. Reckon Nancy was right to sub him tho, as I reckon a main French tactic was to needle him into being sent off.


14 Jun 04 - 04:44 AM (#1206686)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: George Papavgeris

Truly sorry for England, nasty way to lose a match. Just like Beckham's free kick against Greece in the dying minutes, eh? Only the other way round now. Some things come back to haunt you. Oh well, I still expect to see England in the semis at least.

And who knows, with Greece having won their match on Friday... revenge could still be mine - he, he!

Dreams cost nothing, right?
"Hell Arse" - clap-clap-clap!
"Hell Arse" - clap-clap-clap!


14 Jun 04 - 04:44 AM (#1206688)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: GUEST,Jon

According to this page, there were 83 arrests in England related to the game. I'm afraid that takes me back to thinking about PEL issues... Football on tv should be subjected to at least the same conditions as our live music.

Anyway, on to the game... I really do feel disappointed and dissapointed for the team who came close to what I believed would have been a deserved victory or at worst, a draw. All is not lost though and I think if England keep thier heads up, they will still progress in the competition.


14 Jun 04 - 05:26 AM (#1206707)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Sttaw Legend

The England Football Coach, Sven Goran Ericsson is on "Who Wants To Be A Millionaire" and has reached the million pound question.
Chris Tarrant says "Right Sven, this is for one million pounds, and remember, you still have two lifelines left, so please take your time.' Here's your question: What type of animal lives in a Sett ?   
Is it...
a) a badger
b) a ferret
c) a mole or
d) a cuckoo?
Sven ponders for a while and says "No, I'm sorry Chris, I'm not too sure. I'll have to go 50-50."
Right, Sven, let's take away two wrong answers and see what you're left with. " Badger" and "Cuckoo" are the two remaining answers.
Sven has a long think, then scratches his head and says "No, Chris, I'm still not sure, I'm going to have to phone a friend."
So who are you going to call, Sven?" says Chris. Hmmm.. I think I'll call David Beckham." So Tarrant phones David Beckham.
"David, this is Chris Tarrant from 'Who Wants To Be A Millionaire'. I've got Sven Goran Ericsson here, and with your help he could win
one million pounds. The next voice you hear will be Sven's". "Hello David" says Sven. "It's the boss here. What type of animal
lives in a sett? Is it a badger or a cuckoo?" "It's a badger, boss." says Becks without hesitation.

"You sure, son?" says Sven. "Definitely, boss. One hundred per cent. It's a badger. Definitely."
"Right, Chris," says Sven, "I'll go with David. The answer's a badger.

Final answer.
" Sven," says Chris, "That's the correct answer. You've won One Million Pounds!!"

Cue wild celebrations.

Next morning at training, Sven calls Beckham across. "Son, that was brilliant last night. I thought I might be taking a gamble
giving you a call, but you played a blinder! But how the hell did you know that a badger lives in a sett?"

Oh... I didn't, boss," replies Beckham, "But everybody knows a cuckoo lives in a clock"


14 Jun 04 - 12:19 PM (#1206994)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: The Shambles

I'm afraid that takes me back to thinking about PEL issues... Football on tv should be subjected to at least the same conditions as our live music.

I have today written to my MP. I have requested that he ask the Minister this. There are powers in the Act that will allow the Secretary of State to introduce this TV pub sport, to require entertainment permission. I really think it is time to do this and try and prevent what is happening now - and before there is a major inccident.

The letters that are written making this request, to more difficult it will be for our Government to refuse to....


14 Jun 04 - 12:29 PM (#1207006)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Big Tim

Nobody, not even Stan Lynn, whoever he was, could have stopped Zidane'e free kick. It was a masterpiece.

OK Beckham pissed a pen: that can happen to anyone. Remember he set up England's goal. Michael Owen was the weakest link.


14 Jun 04 - 01:42 PM (#1207055)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: GUEST,Jon

Nice one Shambles, Pip and I will draft one up to send to Norman Lamb but I'm doubtful he will show any interest....

(Sorry about the PEL drift BTW, I don't want to take over this thread with it but do feel that 83 arrests may give us an oppertunity to ask questions.)


14 Jun 04 - 02:43 PM (#1207105)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: The Shambles

See

A little more news on Licensing


15 Jun 04 - 04:13 AM (#1207515)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Rasener

LOL Stan Lynn was a right back in the late 50's who played for Aston Villa.
I believe he holds the record for the most amount of goals scored in a season for a full back.
If he had taken the penalty, the french goalkeeper would have gone in the net as well. He must have had the hardest shot in football.


15 Jun 04 - 10:46 AM (#1207746)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: ard mhacha

Sorry Villian for not answering your question about Stan Lynn, a wee bit of knowledge I will impart.
There are a hell of us paddies that have been to more football grounds in England than many a born Brummie and all of the old players would have been as familiar to us as your local supporters.
Tim some day I wll devise a football quiz for you, not all about the wee Celts.
And don`t all those Englishmen have egg on their face after Henrik`s two magnificent goals, not good enough for the English Premier?, Henrik would grace any league in the world.


15 Jun 04 - 10:58 AM (#1207760)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Rasener

Peter (or Paccy to his friends) McParland to you then :-)


15 Jun 04 - 04:49 PM (#1208043)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: ard mhacha

Close Villian,it is Packy.


15 Jun 04 - 04:59 PM (#1208048)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Arnie

Drop Owen and bring on Alan Smith I say - even though he's made the traitorous move over the Pennines. Still, we can't really lose against Switzerland and Croatio - can we????????//


15 Jun 04 - 05:03 PM (#1208050)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Rasener

LOL

Close Villian,it is Packy.

Never could spell that.

Great player


15 Jun 04 - 05:55 PM (#1208086)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: McGrath of Harlow

Still, we can't really lose against Switzerland and Croatia"

You really shouldn't have said that.


16 Jun 04 - 12:40 PM (#1208693)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Strollin' Johnny

Villan, the real sinner wasn't Beckham. He was on a hiding to nothing, taking a huge pressure-shot against his ex-ManU-colleague who probably knows his penalty technique better than his PA knows his jock-strap size!

The real villain, Villan, is that great useless lummox Heskey. What in hell's name was a gormless cart-horse, whose job is to put the fear of God into the opposing centre-backs in t'other half of the field, doing on the edge of his own box and tackling from behind when two defenders were already chaperoning the French guy out towards the side-line?? Insanity.

And equal-second were Gerrard and James. Gerrard for the worst back-pass I've ever seen (even I used to do better than that when I was the reserve defender for Gainsborough Chestnuts), and "Captain Kamikaze" James for a manoeuvre that could only ever have two results - Henry on the deck and a penalty taken by the best player in the world - (If the ground-mics had been closer we'd probably have heard him screaming "Banzai" as he began his dive) when he should have stayed on his feet, made himself big and made Henry work for a result.

If those three hadn't committed schoolboy errors, the success or failure of Beckham's penalty would have been totally immaterial.

Strollin "Bites Yer Legs" Johnny :0)


16 Jun 04 - 12:45 PM (#1208696)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Strollin' Johnny

Here it is again with better grammar!

Villan, the real sinner wasn't Beckham. He was on a hiding to nothing, taking a huge pressure-shot against his ex-ManU-colleague who probably knows his penalty technique better than his PA knows his jock-strap size!

The real villain, Villan, is that great useless lummox Heskey. What in hell's name was a gormless cart-horse, whose job is to put the fear of God into the opposing centre-backs in t'other half of the field, doing on the edge of his own box and tackling from behind when two defenders were already chaperoning the French guy out towards the side-line?? Insanity.

And equal-second were Gerrard and James. Gerrard for the worst back-pass I've ever seen (even I used to do better than that when I was the reserve defender for Gainsborough Chestnuts), and "Captain Kamikaze" James for a manoeuvre that could only ever have two results (If the ground-mics had been closer we'd probably have heard him screaming "Banzai" as he began his dive)- Henry on the deck and a penalty taken by the best player in the world - when he should have stayed on his feet, made himself big and made Henry work for a result.

If those three hadn't committed schoolboy errors, the success or failure of Beckham's penalty would have been totally immaterial.

Strollin "Bites Yer Legs" Johnny :0)


16 Jun 04 - 01:00 PM (#1208703)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: GUEST,Scott

"Zidane was better than Beckham" surely he IS better than Beckham. Any England fans singing there we went, there we went, there we went.


16 Jun 04 - 01:22 PM (#1208719)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Rasener

Beckham is overated.

The others are just prats (is it with one or two t's)


16 Jun 04 - 03:44 PM (#1208806)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Folkiedave

So good I posted it on the joke thread too!!


It's alleged that one of the French football players has failed a drugs and alcohol test yesterday after the match against England. If this is confirmed as positive, under UEFA rules, paragraph 6 sub section 2e, France will forfeit the first group match 3-0. Scroll down for the full transcript of the full report.


































Carlsberg do not send emails, but if they did they would probably be the best email in the world.


Dave


16 Jun 04 - 03:53 PM (#1208813)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Rasener

Pillock :-)


17 Jun 04 - 11:06 AM (#1209143)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Strollin' Johnny

Yo' de man Dave!! Laughed me tits off!! :0)
J


17 Jun 04 - 11:33 AM (#1209174)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: GUEST


17 Jun 04 - 01:47 PM (#1209291)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Rasener

Have you got tits Strollin :-)


18 Jun 04 - 05:37 AM (#1209736)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Hrothgar

Not any more, obviously.


18 Jun 04 - 06:40 AM (#1209771)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Strollin' Johnny

Beat me to it Hrothgar!! BTW, Villan knows me well, (I'm beltin' a few out at his club in Market Rasen tonight) and he's well aware of my physical attributes! (LOL) I'm an ex-rower whose finely developed pecs, abs etc. have sadly been overtaken by gravity and years of alcohol consumption! Not a pretty sight - enough to scare the horses! (LOL again).
Johnny :0)


18 Jun 04 - 08:09 PM (#1210195)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Rasener

But his voice and guitar playing more than makes up for his body features. :-)
What a performer, never lets you down.
Didn't see those tits tonight strollin' :-) Have you really lost them?


19 Jun 04 - 12:06 AM (#1210256)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: LadyJean

Ooooh! You're talking about Football, aka Soccer. I thought you were talking about what French people are supposed to be like, ( mostly because they ARE like that.) Versus what English people are supposed to be like, only they aren't really.


19 Jun 04 - 03:13 AM (#1210286)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Strollin' Johnny

Wore my tightest bra, Villan. Forgot to wear the corset though! :0)


19 Jun 04 - 04:28 AM (#1210299)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: Rasener

LOL


19 Jun 04 - 05:21 AM (#1210313)
Subject: RE: BS: England - France
From: GUEST,patriot1314

I remember England qualifying for the last world cup under the exact same circumstances against Greece as was pointed out earlier in this thread. Also I recall Man U winning the european cup not so long ago in a carbon copy game ie. Getting humped for 90 minutes and getting two very late goals.
Strange there's been no mention of either from the English commentators or media!