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04 Aug 04 - 07:29 PM (#1240473) Subject: Modern Protest Singers From: Amos I was delighted recently to discover the website of David Rovics (Click here) whose modern day protest songs have all the passion that the voices of Phil Ochs, Bob Dylan and Woodie once had in them. Listen to his song on Fallujah for one telling example. Free MP3s available at above page (http://www.soundclick.com/pro/default.cfm?BandID=111310&content=music). How many real protest songwriters are working out there, who should be heralded and appreciated ion these pages? Here's a thread to do it on. ANd listen to Rovics, who is damned good! A |
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04 Aug 04 - 08:18 PM (#1240502) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Francy Coincidentally the Toledo Folk Music Club just had our 5th Annual Folk festival in Toledo, Oregon and our Saturday night concert featured Seattle's Jim Page, who's been around since the 70's and is still one our formemost singer/songwriters with something powerful and important to say, on all the present day issues.....look up his web page.....He's one of the best.....Frank of Toledo |
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04 Aug 04 - 08:27 PM (#1240506) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Francy One cannot forget the greatness and honesty of Dick Gaughan....Frank of Toledo |
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04 Aug 04 - 08:39 PM (#1240510) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Amos Here's some of Jim Page's stuff which is very good! A |
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04 Aug 04 - 08:42 PM (#1240512) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Amos And here's some of the many pages of information about the honorable Dick Gaughan. A |
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04 Aug 04 - 08:44 PM (#1240514) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Francy Thanks for the technical expertise amos...And then there's Minnestoa's Larry Long....... |
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04 Aug 04 - 08:53 PM (#1240520) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Amos Here is Larry :ong's Honepage and here is a link to a moving song Larry wrote "Freedom, Oh, Freedom" (the link opens an MP3). All right, Francy!! This is what folkies are best at!! Great!!!! A |
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04 Aug 04 - 09:02 PM (#1240525) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Francy Some of the recent work of Tom Russell......and also of Eliza Gilkyson.........Frank of Toledo |
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04 Aug 04 - 09:55 PM (#1240552) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Bert A protest song doesn't have to be performed with all 'that passion' in them. Tom Paxton wrote quite a lot that were very funny and equally as effective as the more passionately presented ones. |
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04 Aug 04 - 10:20 PM (#1240562) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Amos Passion -- to me , anyway-- presents itself in different ways, I guess. Humor is certainly capable ofreflecting passionately held beliefs. A |
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04 Aug 04 - 10:24 PM (#1240565) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: fi_in_nz SONiA link here and the amazing talent of Penelope Swales Amazing issues based story telling. See her if you ever get the chance (no, I'm not her agent ;-) |
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04 Aug 04 - 10:40 PM (#1240567) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Amos Thanks Fi--that Penelope is a kick-ass entertainer, innit? :>) A |
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04 Aug 04 - 10:46 PM (#1240570) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Francy And then there's Si Kahn...Always in the forefront of social issues......"I Have Seen Freedom"...."Aragon Mill" and many others.....Frank of Toledo |
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04 Aug 04 - 11:05 PM (#1240578) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Amos Here's one nice sample of Si Kahn's protest music. A |
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05 Aug 04 - 02:57 AM (#1240610) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Joe Offer I don't know if you'd actually call him a protest singer, but Dave Lippman certainly has some choice things to say about the man he calls "George Shrub." I thought Molly Ivins invented the "shrub" thing, but maybe not. -Joe Offer- |
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05 Aug 04 - 04:37 AM (#1240624) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: GUEST,freda Paul Spencer is an Australian singer songwriter. Some of his songs can be found here http://paulspencer.org/?q=contents and his website has links to a lot of other like minded singer/songwriters including David Rovics and Penelope Swales. As well as Paul and Penelope, Maurie Mulheron is another excellent Australian songwriter who writes protest songs. Paul is a fantastic musician and writer who is currently living in Oxford, I'm hoping to meet up with him while i m in the UK. freda |
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05 Aug 04 - 01:37 PM (#1240719) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: semi-submersible What? Nobody mentioned The Raging Grannies yet? I can't believe it! |
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05 Aug 04 - 01:55 PM (#1240726) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Stewart There's also Jim Hinde, a long-time busker at Seattle's Pike Place Market. A big man with a big beard and big voice, he sings his own protest songs with real conviction and authenticity. Check out his web site HERE. Cheers, S. in Seattle |
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05 Aug 04 - 02:29 PM (#1240758) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Amos I am delighted at the miracles this thread is breinging to my attention!! A |
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05 Aug 04 - 06:07 PM (#1240894) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Bill Hahn//\\ Some good names mentioned--I would add Anne Feeney and James Gordon (of Canada). His song Mesopatamia is just great---and I love Si Kahn's--Cam Ranh Bay (on his latest CD). Great messages with great music---and for some nice biting sarcasm---Geo. Sherer and his Two Bush Blues (among others). Of course in a non folk vein there is always the Capitol Steps that are now allowing you to download their latest work re: the Terror Alert---sung to the tune of the Battle Hymn of The Republic---Glory Glory Paranoia. Bill Hahn |
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05 Aug 04 - 07:30 PM (#1240935) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Bill Hahn//\\ I almost forgot to add John Flynn---wonderful topical and subtle artist Bill Hahn |
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05 Aug 04 - 07:37 PM (#1240940) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Francy A good friend of mine from the Los Angeles area is "Banjo" Fred Starner....He was an original crew member on Pete Seeger's sloop the Clearwater, and he still sings some great topical songs ala Pete....Frank of Toledo |
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05 Aug 04 - 07:45 PM (#1240951) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: akenaton My ignorance of American music is vast. I used to think Iris Dement was a gospel singer on the lines of the Carters ,till I heard her sing "Wasteland of the free",she certainly goes for the jugular...Ake |
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05 Aug 04 - 09:29 PM (#1241063) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: MAG Nobody's mention Utah Phillips. and he says songs of everyday people are political in themselves. I strongly second Eliza Gilkeyson. I have *Land of Milk and Honey;* can and do listen to it over and over. Joan Baez still kicks butt. Bellingham people, chime in: Zeke Hoskin; Linda Allen. |
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05 Aug 04 - 10:23 PM (#1241092) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Amos Protest certainly does not have to be overtly political. I have heard Linda Allen -- lovely singer. Joanie rules, for shoah! A |
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05 Aug 04 - 11:57 PM (#1241175) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: GUEST,Sandy Andina If I specialize in anything besides humor, I guess it's protest. I have had a number of funny and serious protest songs played on Internet & broadcast radio; check out my free downloads page at http://members.mac.com/sandraandina/public for "We Belong to the World" and "Because We Can" (which made Dr. Demento's Funny Five). Radio Left has played my "The Shrub" (I'll upload a version to my page soon). You can request all of these (and "Canadian For a Day" ) at www.drdemento.com and www.radioleft.com (they may not have "Canadian" yet). |
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06 Aug 04 - 12:01 AM (#1241179) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: MAG How could I forget Sweet Honey?? |
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06 Aug 04 - 12:27 AM (#1241194) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Amos Sandy could you double check that URL and post the corrected one? It 404s out as written. Our own mac.com page is of the form http://homepage.mac.com/username/...maybe that's the problem? Thanks Sandy!! A |
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06 Aug 04 - 03:06 AM (#1241248) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: semi-submersible Bob Bossin for sure. Yes, Joe, Dave Lippman is definitely a protest singer and speaker. I recall how, wearing sunglasses and pointing with a machine gun, George Shrub (then head of the Committee to Intervene Anywhere) showed on a map ("aerial photograph of our world") how America is "in the centre" of things and in a position "to keep on top" of events." "You may ask why [not] Canada, given their position. But as you can plainly see, Canada is pink, and therefore ineligible." I also recall his "Cockpits and Missiles (Alive, Alive-o)" |
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06 Aug 04 - 10:16 AM (#1241366) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: MAG Ye gods, I heard Dave Lippman, it must be 25 years ago. I hope he hasn't changed. except with the times. which just keep getting worse and worse. last time I heard Utah (at Folklife), he was actually in favor of voting (Bush out). |
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06 Aug 04 - 10:29 AM (#1241377) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: el ted Hmmm.... if only Hitler had listened to George Formby eh? |
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06 Aug 04 - 12:02 PM (#1241396) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Mark Ross If you haven't heard the great Larry Penn, please take the time. His new song THE SINS OF THE FATHERS, about the festivities in the MIddle East gets right to the point. One of my favorite songwriters! Mark Ross |
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06 Aug 04 - 01:29 PM (#1241408) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: DebC Joe Jenks |
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07 Aug 04 - 05:42 AM (#1241603) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: shepherdlass A few other names spring to mind - Rory McLeod, Billy Bragg, Pete Morton. Then in the jazz world, you've got protest instrumentalists like Gilad Atzmon. There's a lot of passionate stuff out there. |
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07 Aug 04 - 08:19 AM (#1241633) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Bobert All second Francy's choice: Jim Page! This guy really get down into the nut and bolts of protest and issues... "Oh, Palestine, there's a hole in your soul..." Bobert |
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07 Aug 04 - 09:26 AM (#1241678) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: InOBU Any good protest singers recording on coop lables in, say, New York? Larry |
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07 Aug 04 - 12:47 PM (#1241777) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Amos There the incredible Sorcha Dorcha -- a first rate protest song group... A |
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07 Aug 04 - 05:36 PM (#1242018) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: slewfoot Pat Humphries. |
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07 Aug 04 - 06:55 PM (#1242070) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: mack/misophist Of the persons listed with links to songs, David Rovics blew me away. Great stuff. He's way to the left of me politically but it just seems to make the songs that much better. |
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07 Aug 04 - 09:36 PM (#1242145) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: MAG I just heard a couple of terrific things on the Midnight Special: someone named Buddy Tabor -- "Mr. Basketball Shoes" singer Kia Hartwood (sp?) w/ a group called Wishing Chair -- CD ? Dishpan Brigade |
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07 Aug 04 - 11:08 PM (#1242207) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: MAG and the show played: Dave Frischbein (?sp) My Country Used to Be M.C. Carpenter, Good Night America Kate McDonald (?sp) Mercy all good anti-stupid-war songs |
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07 Aug 04 - 11:28 PM (#1242220) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Suffet Greetings: Let me point out that several of the people mentioned so far -- David Rovics, David Lippman, Anne Feeney, Fred Starner, Pat Humphries, Si Kahn, Joe Jencks, Pete Seeger -- are members of People's Music Network. That is no coincidence. PMN was founded more than 25 years ago as an organization of musicians and others involved in music who wish to promote progressive political ideas and values. Among the many other members of PMN who could be on this list are, in no particular order, Charlie King, Heather Lev, Eric Levine, Bev Grant, Karen Brooks, Ben Silver, Sandy Opatow, Ben Tousley, Faith Petric, Peggy Seeger, Dean Stevens, Tom Nielson, Joel Landy, Jon Fromer, Francisco Herrera, Andy Buck, Rick Libert, Kristen Lems, Jamie Anderson, Joyce Katzberg, Kim and Reggie Harris, Ruth Pelham, Sarah Underhill, Karl Moore, Sharleen Leahy, Luci Murphy, Patricia Shih, Ted Warmbrand, Spook Handy, Dave Martin, Mary Nell Morgan, Jill Friedman, Sharon Abreu, Bob Blue, Jay Mankita, Marlene Feingold, Colleen Kattau, Paul Kaplan, Alison Frost, and Rande Harris. And those are just the ones I can recall from the top of my head. PMN has hundreds of members, perhaps a thousand or more, and nearly all of them perform topical-political songs of one sort or another. Do a Google search for some of the names listed above, and you'll quickly see what a prolific and talented group of people they are. For more information, you can visit the People's Music Network website: http://www.peoplesmusic.org/ --- Steve Suffet (proud to be a PMN member) |
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07 Aug 04 - 11:39 PM (#1242229) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: katlaughing While these are all of the obviously more well-known artists, I thought the following ed. from the Rocky Mountain News made some good observations about the group of artists who will be touring for Vote for Change: Brown: Musicians sing praises, protests to attract voters August 7, 2004 Driving into work this week, there's Steve Earle live on Bret Saunders' morning show on KBCO, previewing two new songs: The Revolution Starts Here and Rich Man's War. At virtually the same time, Mike Mills from R.E.M. is on TV, talking about the Vote For Change tour in October, when his band will hit swing states with Bruce Springsteen & the E Street Band, Dave Matthews, James Taylor, Pearl Jam, the Dixie Chicks, John Fogerty, John Mellencamp, Bonnie Raitt, Jackson Browne, and more, in an attempt to vote George W. Bush out of office. Meanwhile, Fogerty has released a new antiwar single, Déjà vu (All Over Again) that's getting airplay. Prince has more quietly released, through his Web site, The United States of Division, which joins previously released antiwar songs by the Beastie Boys, R.E.M., Mellencamp, Ani DiFranco and more. Whatever your views on the election, it's fascinating to watch music begin to have a social relevance again. Never have so many artists on both sides of an issue spoken out so fervently. This sort of social activism through music is nothing new, in one sense. There have been plenty of big benefits over the years. Many of the names popping up this time have been involved in the No Nukes concerts, Live Aid, Farm Aid, Neil Young's Bridge School benefits and more. Yet this time around the stakes are different; these artists now risk alienating a large portion of their fan base. Compared with the current election, those other benefits are uncontroversial. Who is going to lose a significant number of fans for taking a stance against nuclear power, against world hunger, or in favor of family farms and specialized schools for the handicapped? This election is a flashpoint for emotion. The day the tour was announced, the official Springsteen chatboards went ballistic with invective, with some fans vowing a lifetime boycott. Yet despite the controversy, an unprecedented number of artists have raised their voices. Elvis Costello pointedly played the Dixie Chicks before his concerts last year to support their controversial remarks about the president. He also makes pointed references to the Bush administration in the liner notes to his just-released reissue of Goodbye Cruel World. Neil Young allowed Michael Moore to use Keep On Rockin' in the Free World in the closing segment of Fahrenheit 9/11. We've all heard about Linda Ronstadt by now, of course. After that Las Vegas incident, the Eagles' Don Henley began dedicating Desperado to her in his shows, with the ensuing cheers and boos. It's a different stance than he took just a year ago, when he told the News there was no point in speaking out against the war because "until the hysteria dies down and the jingoism and xenophobia all die down, there's not much point in saying anything." It's not just the old guard speaking out. Rock Against Bush, Vol. 2, is coming out next week with tracks from Yellowcard, No Doubt, Green Day, Bad Religion, Foo Fighters, Rancid and 22 more bands. Radiohead struck one of the first blows last year, naming its album Hail to the Thief, a commentary on the Florida voting controversy. NOFX jumped in early as well, with a pointed, satirical song and video titled Idiot Son of An (expletive). With all the songs out there, will commercial radio play them - especially considering the message sent by the FCC crackdown on indecency earlier this year? The Fogerty song has gotten limited airplay, but the rest are, for all intents and purposes, MIA. Instead, it's the songs considered pro-Bush that have been hits: Darryl Worley's Have You Forgotten and Toby Keith's Courtesy of The Red White And Blue (The Angry American) among them. The Vote For Change tour is sure to spur a response from the numerous artists who are Bush supporters - Worley, Keith, Ted Nugent, Britney Spears, Martina McBride, Sara Evans and the like. Nugent visited Iraq earlier this year, and artists such as Kid Rock have done the same. Tim McGraw gave our troops at Fort Carson a free concert last year. It'll be interesting to see if any of that coalesces as strongly as the antiwar side seems to have. For now, it's a fascinating but potentially explosive ride, where freedom of speech, artistic license, commerce, patriotism and politics are getting a historic workout. The sounds of war Antiwar songs have far outnumbered songs written in support of President Bush's policies. Many country singers have released a number of patriotic songs, but they aren't overtly about the war or Bush. Other recent antiwar songs recor- ded in response to the war in Iraq include: • Beastie Boys: In a World Gone Mad • Billy Bragg: The Price of Oil • Paula Cole: My Hero, Mr. President • Zach de la Rocha: March of Death • Ani DiFranco: Self Evident • Michael Franti and Spearhead: Bomb the World • Lenny Kravitz: We Want Peace • Live: What Are We Fighting For? • John Mellencamp: To Washington • Willie Nelson: Whatever Happened to Peace on Earth • R.E.M.: The Final Straw • Cat Stevens: Peace Train In response, there are some pro-Bush songs: • Toby Keith: Courtesy of the Red White and Blue (The Angry American) • Clint Black: Iraq and Roll • Darryl Worley: Have You Forgotten • Warren Brothers: Hey Mr. President • Toby Keith: American Soldier |
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08 Aug 04 - 08:54 AM (#1242475) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: John Robinson (aka Cittern) Worth checking http://www.protest-records.com which now has 70 free downloads of anti-war songs from a wide variety of genres. We're about to record Julie Ellison's "Two Wrongs Don't Make A Right" to make it available via this site. There goes that US tour .... All the best John Robinson http://www.JulieEllison.co.uk |
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30 Sep 04 - 06:35 PM (#1285322) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Jim Dixon One of the songs that MAG mentioned above is now posted in a new thread: Lyr Add: MY COUNTRY USED TO BE (Dave Frishberg) |
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01 Oct 04 - 08:46 AM (#1285921) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Leadfingers If I could do the blue clickie thing I would do one for a superb UK based Singer/Songwriter = http://robbjohnson.co.uk/ |
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01 Oct 04 - 08:51 AM (#1285928) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: freda underhill John Dengate is an Australian singer/songwriter in his 60s. His songs are satirical, lyrical and moving. He is a very witty, very clever song writer. |
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01 Oct 04 - 09:02 AM (#1285936) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: breezy Robb Johnson is rated above Billy Bragg by those in the know. He will be appearing at the St Albans club on Friday 12th November where tonight Marilyn Middleton will feature some Stan Rogers songs |
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01 Oct 04 - 04:55 PM (#1286366) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Mark Ross Larry Penn! |
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01 Oct 04 - 09:41 PM (#1286585) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Gorgeous Gary Roy Zimmerman, from LA. Formerly of the Foremen, who gained a bit of fame during the late Bush-the-Elder and the early Clinton years. I just picked up his latest double albums HOMELAND and SECURITY (haven't gotten around to listening to them yet). -- Gary |
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01 Oct 04 - 09:44 PM (#1286587) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Gorgeous Gary Oh, and speaking of the Vote for Change tour, I was quite amused that the local, CLEARCHANNEL-owned classic rock station actually has been giving away tickets to the DC show; also they had a drawing for a trip to the Cleveland show. I guess corporate management was too busy kicking Howard Stern off their stations and let this one slip by... 8-) |
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02 Oct 04 - 12:19 PM (#1286880) Subject: RE: Modern Protest Singers From: Amergin Protest Song Eric: Our next guest is a man who needs no introduction from me, so until next week ... Neil Innes: Uh...(tuning guitar)...uh...(still tuning guitar)...uh, this next song is a protest song...(even more tuning)...uh...(tunes some more)...uh, ladies and gentlemen, I've suffered for my music. Now it's your turn... (Song starts - hooray!!) (Terrible harmonica playing) All the prophets of doom Can always find room In a world full of worry and fear Tip cigarettes And chemistry sets And Rudolph, The Red-Nosed Reindeer So I'm goin' back To my little ol' shack And drink me a bottle of wine That was mis en bouteille Before my birthday And have me a fuckin' good time! Rain on a tin roof sounds like a drum We're marchin' for freedom today ... hey! Turn on your headlights and sound your horn If people get in the way (More terrible harmonica playing) Let me turn you on To the Chromium Swan On the the nose of a long limousine Even hire it for the day It is somethin' to say But what the hell does it mean? I may be accused Of bein' confused But I'm average weight for my height My phil-o-so-phy Like color TV Is all there in black and white RAI -- Rain on a tin roof sounds like a drum We're marchin' for freedom today ... hey! Turn on your headlights and sound your horn (honk honk) If people get in the way (Long harmonica note to end of song.) Policeman (spoken): All right sonny, that's enough. Concert's over for you, Mr. Tangerine Man. Off you go, on your bike. ... Welfare state, huh. Music and lyrics by: Neil Innes |