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11 Aug 04 - 09:23 PM (#1245383) Subject: Tune Req: An Irish Song From: GUEST,Ron There is a song that says somehwer in Ireland 1880 about a son that leaves Ireland to seek his fortune in the US and every 10 yr or so some one writes to tell him what he is missing and the births in his family please help ron |
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11 Aug 04 - 09:26 PM (#1245385) Subject: RE: Tune Req: An Irish Song From: Joe Offer Hi, Ron - it's Kilkelly (click here), by Peter Jones. -Joe Offer- |
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11 Aug 04 - 09:27 PM (#1245389) Subject: RE: Tune Req: An Irish Song From: Joe Offer Hmmmm. Three minute response time.... |
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11 Aug 04 - 10:14 PM (#1245412) Subject: RE: Tune Req: An Irish Song From: GUEST,ron Yes Joe that is it thanks |
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12 Aug 04 - 06:40 AM (#1245640) Subject: RE: Tune Req: An Irish Song From: Dave Hanson Worlds most dreary song. eric |
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12 Aug 04 - 06:40 AM (#1245641) Subject: RE: Tune Req: An Irish Song From: Geoff the Duck Mudcat threads are getting shorter by the day. Are we getting our money's worth we ask.... ;O) Quack!! Geoff the Duck. |
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12 Aug 04 - 07:13 AM (#1245652) Subject: RE: Tune Req: An Irish Song From: GUEST This is the first time I had heard of this song. The words are very moving especially considering they are based on actual letters of the time. I don't suppose the Irish were having a merry old time during the potato famine so I think the use of the word "dreary" to describe this song somewhat offensive. History ain't always merry but its still part of our culture and tradition. |
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12 Aug 04 - 10:08 AM (#1245761) Subject: RE: Tune Req: An Irish Song From: Leadfingers I can imagine this song being 'dreary' sung by SOME people . I first heard it song by Gill Berry ,and it nearly had ME in tears , her delivery was so moving . There are songs which HAVE to be done RIGHT , by the RIGHT singer to get the full effect . |
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12 Aug 04 - 10:11 AM (#1245765) Subject: RE: Tune Req: An Irish Song From: GUEST,JTT The Famine was in the 1840s, but why quibble... |
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12 Aug 04 - 10:56 AM (#1245807) Subject: RE: Tune Req: An Irish Song From: GUEST yes why quibble but if you must..... whilst the worst famine was 1845-48, there were further outbreaks of blight - as mentioned in the song, and deaths from hunger continued over the proceeding years. People were living at such a low level of subsistence it was a continuing danger. So the dates cited for the famine in Ireland are a moot point. Leadfingers, your point is a good one. Kathryn Williams version of Leonard Cohen's Hallejullah is so beautiful but in the wrong hands it would probably induce suicide! |
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12 Aug 04 - 09:15 PM (#1246363) Subject: RE: Tune Req: An Irish Song From: GUEST,ron it is a sad song but it tells a story that has gone on in Ireland for 500 yrs boys leaving to seek their fortunes and forgeting their roots |
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13 Aug 04 - 12:58 AM (#1246471) Subject: RE: Tune Req: An Irish Song From: George Seto - af221@chebucto.ns.ca I don't think too many Irish forget their roots. It's kind of thrown in their faces every March 17th! |
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13 Aug 04 - 05:28 PM (#1247080) Subject: RE: Tune Req: An Irish Song From: PoppaGator I disagree about the song being "dreary." I am very glad to be reminded of it. It's been a year or more since I heard it on the radio and was moved nearly to tears. And, believe me, I don't cry easily. I have no idea whose rendition it was that I heard, but it was very effective. It seemed pretty obvious, without hearing any spoken introduction, that the lyricist had probably paraphrased actual letters -- it just seemed to ring too true to be fiction. |
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13 Aug 04 - 05:45 PM (#1247109) Subject: RE: Tune Req: An Irish Song From: David Ingerson Well, George, I'm sure you're aware that what's thrown in their faces (and ours) every March is an instant mashed potatoes version of their roots--after it's been wrung dry by Madison Ave. There were two Irish immigration centers in Oregon during the 19th century--Lakeview and Harney Counties--where Irish sheep hearders gathered. Now there is nothing of Irish culture there--no language, no music, no customs--other than family names and maybe a Danny Boy sung on March 17. I'm sure glad it's been preserved elsewhere! BTW, when I perform Kilkelly, Ireland, I have to sing it 3 or 4 times right before I perform or I can't get through the last verse--especially the last line--without tears. Slainte, David |
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13 Aug 04 - 05:48 PM (#1247111) Subject: RE: Tune Req: An Irish Song From: David Ingerson Oops! That's herders. I imagine they heard them, too, but that was not their main occupation. :-) David |
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13 Aug 04 - 07:54 PM (#1247242) Subject: RE: Tune Req: An Irish Song (Kilkelly) From: GUEST,'nother guest I know it fills up 8 minutes of a set nicely and yiz love to hear the moving sounds of yourselves singing it, but it's touching ONCE. After that, it's done to death and dreary!! |
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13 Aug 04 - 08:44 PM (#1247282) Subject: RE: Tune Req: An Irish Song (Kilkelly) From: GUEST,Nerd I also don't think it's dreary. I used to make people cry in college by playing them that song. It IS one of those songs whose magical effect dulls with constant exposure, so it's best not to sing it or hear it every day. But it is intensely moving and effective, especially the first time you hear it. |
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14 Aug 04 - 07:49 AM (#1247499) Subject: RE: Tune Req: An Irish Song (Kilkelly) From: belfast Well, well. Some find it moving, others find it dreary. Some people like the song, some don't. Really fascinating but obviously we need an expert to tell us the "correct" response to the song. |
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21 Aug 04 - 09:53 PM (#1253174) Subject: RE: Tune Req: An Irish Song (Kilkelly) From: GUEST it is similar to the song " Scorn not his simplicity" it is a great song does any one have a "midy "Tune File for Kilkelly thanks ron Tiocfai ar Law |
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22 Aug 04 - 06:07 PM (#1253790) Subject: RE: Tune Req: An Irish Song (Kilkelly) From: Pogo I heard that song ages ago on a documentary and it really pulled the heartstrings. So it was based on actual letters then? How sad... I imagine that all too often that was indeed the norm; that once you had left Ireland it would be quite unlikely you'd ever see it or your loved ones again. I am of Scottish/Irish descent. Kilkelly makes me appreciate the courage and sacrifices of those immigrants even more... |
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05 Aug 05 - 04:58 PM (#1535947) Subject: RE: Tune Req: An Irish Song (Kilkelly) From: GUEST was in the 1840s, but problems with the rot continued for long after |
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05 Aug 05 - 05:07 PM (#1535953) Subject: RE: Tune Req: An Irish Song (Kilkelly) From: GUEST,soldier Its a ballad to remind people that hardship and heartache are often the incentive that thrust people into new lives, and new countries... I agree, overplayed the song wears, but the message is consistent and if you dont listen to it for a while so that its fresh....its not because you forgot the story... I wish people today would write ballads to their sons...and daughters to their families...to remind them and the nation of what it takes and has taken to keep our Nation of varied cultural parents alive... To remind them that war without moral conviction, is a painful shore on which we strand a generation. And that sometimes it is the price we pay for the right to sing, and listen to "dreary" songs of a fathers love for his far away son..... |