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05 Sep 04 - 11:52 PM (#1265053) Subject: BS: Al Qaeda Training Manual From: GUEST,GROK This is the guiding light for the trash of the world. Read it and weep. www.usdoj.gov/ag/trainingmanual.htm Sorry, but when I try to make the link blue I get a 404 code and it tells me it ain't gonna happen anytime soon. |
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05 Sep 04 - 11:57 PM (#1265055) Subject: RE: BS: Al Qaeda Training Manual From: GUEST,GROK Or google Al Qaeda Training Manual |
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06 Sep 04 - 08:38 AM (#1265188) Subject: RE: BS: Al Qaeda Training Manual From: Wolfgang Very interesting reading. In the name of Allah, the merciful and compassionate to head such a manual and be repeated severyl times is priceless. Wolfgang |
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06 Sep 04 - 02:13 PM (#1265418) Subject: RE: BS: Al Qaeda Training Manual From: mack/misophist Muslims seen to feel that no document that fails to start with the salutation (or something similar) can be truly serious. Boilerplate, in other words, put in for effect. |
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07 Sep 04 - 09:50 AM (#1265927) Subject: RE: BS: Al Qaeda Training Manual From: GUEST,GROK Read the play book. |
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07 Sep 04 - 10:20 AM (#1265949) Subject: RE: BS: Al Qaeda Training Manual From: Uncle_DaveO Here's the clickie: To access the manual Dave Oesterreich |
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07 Sep 04 - 12:28 PM (#1266045) Subject: RE: BS: Al Qaeda Training Manual From: GUEST,GROK Thanks, Uncle DaveO. |
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07 Sep 04 - 01:17 PM (#1266067) Subject: RE: BS: Al Qaeda Training Manual From: Amos I find this quote of telling interest: "0 ye who believe! Fear Allah, and make your utterance straight forward: That he may make your conduct whole and sound and forgive you your sins. He that obeys Allah and his messenger, has already attained the great victory." Afterward, The most truthful saying is the book of Allah and the best guidance is that of Mohammed, God bless and keep him. [Therefore,]the worst thing is to introduce something new, for every novelty is an act of heresy and each heresy is a deception." Seems to me this is key in understanding why the bright star of Eastern civilization waned as it did. An institutionalized decree against innovation will certainly tend to throw a civilization into reverse. A A |
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07 Sep 04 - 05:15 PM (#1266227) Subject: RE: BS: Al Qaeda Training Manual From: belter I heard on the radio the other day that Islam teaches to "defend the Innocent". I think thats OK, but I guess there's some disagreement about the deffinition of "innocent". |
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07 Sep 04 - 05:28 PM (#1266235) Subject: RE: BS: Al Qaeda Training Manual From: Little Hawk It all depends on which Muslim you are talking to, and which angle he's looking at it from. Some Muslims are kind and harmless people, despite the vicious teachings emanating from certain fanatics in that religion. You could say this about Christians too. All warring groups end up killing innocents, but not too many kidnap school children as an initial bargaining point. A God that one is instructed to "fear" is either a false God...or a false understanding OF God...yet those same instructions to fear God can be found in the Christian Bible too, in numerous places. That's because they emanated from cultures where people were taught to fear the male patriarchs who ran the show. They made God in their own dominant male image. That is not God. Matter of fact, it's closer to some sort of demon than it is to God. God is Life. Life is not mean, vengeful or cruel, it is abundant and generous. Frightened, ignorant people are mean, vengeful and cruel. |
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08 Sep 04 - 04:27 PM (#1267052) Subject: RE: BS: Al Qaeda Training Manual From: GUEST,Frank Remember that the majority of the terrorists on 911 were from Saudi Arabia. Does that say anything? Frank |
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09 Sep 04 - 04:47 PM (#1267886) Subject: RE: BS: Al Qaeda Training Manual From: ddw "God is Life. Life is not mean, vengeful or cruel, it is abundant and generous. Frightened, ignorant people are mean, vengeful and cruel." What planet did you make those observations on, LH? I'll agree that life is not not vengeful or cruel. It's just life. Abundant and generous? Yeah, sometimes. There's the dog-eat-dog aspect and the love-thy-neighbour aspect, but to try to say one holds sway over the other is pretty naive. People are wonderful and people are assholes — often in the same bodies and in the same day. You just have to sort out which is which as you meet them and decide which you want to be. Assigning a category to others is a dangerous waste of time unless you have some basis for deciding which is which. I'll always expect the worst and hope for the best. You live longer that way and enjoy the surprises much more.... cheers, david |
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10 Sep 04 - 01:17 PM (#1268648) Subject: RE: BS: Al Qaeda Training Manual From: Little Hawk Yeah, the best thing to do is deal with each individual AS an individual. |