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Making my act LESS child-friendly

16 Sep 04 - 03:16 PM (#1273334)
Subject: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: GUEST,sadams at bitstream.net

How do I search the Digital Tradition for bawdy songs, e.g. the classic 'Friggin' in the Riggin''?

People have this disconcerting habit of plunking the wee ones directly in front of me in a variety of performance situations - after all, as an accordion player (vaguely somewhere in the Irish/British Isles tradition) and trad singer, I've GOTTA be child-friendly, right?

Help me find ways short of Jonathan Swift to demonstrate that well, no, I'm really not.

regards,
Sam


16 Sep 04 - 03:19 PM (#1273337)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: GUEST,ClaireBear

You could do worse than to start by doing a search on Oscar Brand.


16 Sep 04 - 03:26 PM (#1273347)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: GUEST,MMario

do a lyric and forum search for @bawdy

or a forum search for 'bawdy'


16 Sep 04 - 03:30 PM (#1273352)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: Pene Azul

Select "DT Keyword Search" from the Quick Links dropdown above. Check "bawdy" and click the search button.

Jeff


16 Sep 04 - 03:31 PM (#1273356)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: GUEST,amergin

I thought those songs WERE child friendly?


16 Sep 04 - 03:32 PM (#1273357)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: GUEST

Thanks a million!

You all rock so hard.


16 Sep 04 - 03:33 PM (#1273359)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: GUEST

Perhaps they're child-friendly in the sense that they inspire activities associated with the creation of children. ;)


16 Sep 04 - 04:22 PM (#1273409)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: Liz the Squeak

You could just drop the accordion on the children..... works on lots of levels.....

LTS


16 Sep 04 - 04:25 PM (#1273414)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: Cluin

Light up a smoke after every song. They'll move their kids away pretty quick.


16 Sep 04 - 04:55 PM (#1273445)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: GUEST

Try kids singing games. The brats will leave out of sheer embarasment and the adults will love them - especially after a few bevvies.


16 Sep 04 - 07:54 PM (#1273641)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: M.Ted

Got news for you--as an accordian player/traditional singer in the Irish/British Isles whatever, the majority of adults have no use for you whatsoever,so if the kids don't like you, you're through--


16 Sep 04 - 08:22 PM (#1273662)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: fi_in_nz

Tom Lehrer's Masochism Tango would work well with the accordion - parents might drag their kids away from the front row when they discovered you were really evil...

F


16 Sep 04 - 08:26 PM (#1273664)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: Joybell

You've got the upper hand with an accordian. Turn up the sound and drown out their little piping voices. Little kids like to be the stars. They can't compete with an accordian. They'll run screaming from you with their hands over their ears. Better still get a few accordian-playing friends to join in. Joy


16 Sep 04 - 10:39 PM (#1273681)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: mack/misophist

A can of hair spray and a lighter make a wonderful flame thrower. Consider starting with a recitation of Swift's A Modest Proposal.


16 Sep 04 - 11:06 PM (#1273695)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: wysiwyg

What'll I do with the baby-o?

Look it up... oughtta take care of the problem.

Dance him north and dance him south,
Dance him north and dance him south,
Put a little whiskey in his mouth,
If he won't go to sleepy-o.

Or at least it goes something like that.

~S~


17 Sep 04 - 12:18 AM (#1273724)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: LadyJean

Lambkin and Weela Wallya. Be sure to sing the verse where Lambkin sticks a needle up the baby's nose good and lous.


17 Sep 04 - 02:41 AM (#1273763)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: Tannywheeler

M.Ted knows different adults than I do.

Consider putting up with the kids for a while; they are your future audience.

Probably won't work. The singers/performers I'm loyal to liked me, as well as my parents, and seemed to think of me as human. But you care enough about the "kiddies" to be concerned about what they're hearing.

Try an announcement early in a set -- something about the graphic, adult-issue nature of many folksongs and that your sets are rated, at best, PG, and sometimes R.

Of course, how you deal with this depends on the context of the performance. What is appropriate at an afternoon gig at a music festival is different than what works at the second show in a club.
Well, I guess that's my "Duh" moment for this hour.

Yeah, Weela Walya.   Tw


17 Sep 04 - 03:28 AM (#1273791)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: John MacKenzie

Have you tried dressing up as a priest?
Giok ;~)


17 Sep 04 - 08:09 AM (#1273960)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: GUEST,Elfcall

Giok - that is very naughty but also very funny :0)

Elfcall


17 Sep 04 - 08:45 AM (#1273996)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: M.Ted

Apparently, some of you hate kids--that's your prerogative--the vicious, sick, and sadistic comments are not appreciated by those of us who have children--


17 Sep 04 - 08:49 AM (#1274000)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: Paco Rabanne

Explosives do it for me.


17 Sep 04 - 09:28 AM (#1274023)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: Fibula Mattock

Hmmm, and children aren't appreciated by those of us who don't have 'em...
It's a vicious circle, eh?


17 Sep 04 - 09:56 AM (#1274046)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: M.Ted

You don't have to have children--it would be nice if you could at least be civil to the people who do--


17 Sep 04 - 10:00 AM (#1274054)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: GUEST,MMario

When I do "adult" material - or borderline stuff - and there are children in the audience - I just issue a disclaimer - because if their kids understand the material - it certainly isn't *MY* fault. And if they don't understand it - what's the problem?

On the other hand - the kids I know who have grown up around the performance of "bawdy" materials seem to have a much better understanding of WHEN such material is socialy acceptable and when it is not - compared to their peers. Not to mention the fact they are much more inventive when they *DO* use such language.


17 Sep 04 - 10:01 AM (#1274056)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: Fibula Mattock

Sheesh! I'm not beng uncivil. I have no problem with most children - just the ones whose parents don't keep them under control.


17 Sep 04 - 10:03 AM (#1274059)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: Paco Rabanne

I've got four kids, and I still swear by explosives to keep the buggers under control... oh.... there's only two left!


17 Sep 04 - 10:04 AM (#1274060)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: GUEST,MMario

and in the long run - that is a PARENT problem - not a CHILD problem.


17 Sep 04 - 10:10 AM (#1274066)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: alanabit

I was asked a question about this today. The act I do is not suitable for children - especially small ones. It is boring for them. The words are important - and very often concerned with events which they don't understand - and the gags go over their heads. However, for adults to be able to enjoy it, they have to be able to listen without the distraction of bored children demanding their attention. I like playing for children too - but it's a different audience. Their needs are are often different - as I would expect them to be. It is not a question of being pro or anti children. It is just that you can only play to one audience at a time if you really want to do the job well.


17 Sep 04 - 11:58 AM (#1274168)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: M.Ted

this is not civil-- "Turn up the sound and drown out their little piping voices.They'll run screaming from you with their hands over their ears" nor this " Be sure to sing the verse where Lambkin sticks a needle up the baby's nose." nor this "A can of hair spray and a lighter make a wonderful flame thrower. Consider starting with a recitation of Swift's A Modest Proposal"--


17 Sep 04 - 12:52 PM (#1274209)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: Gervase

Good grief, lighten up M.Ted - it's a parent's prerogative to say such things about kids. I've got two of my own and a stepson, and I love 'em to bits, but I can still take the piss out of the little buggers.
Trouble is with the advice given, if you do demonstrate flame throwers and sing about extreme violence, the kids will just love it all the more.
MMario's got it - it's down to the parents. If the guest who opened the thread has no choice about where s/he performs, it's tricky. Too many parents see someone performing and think: "Ah, a free child-minder in the guise of an entertainer," and dump their brood in front of the performer.
Maybe some scary face-paint or some judicious latex scarring would help! Failing that, try to perfom on licensed premises, where the audience has to be at least 14.


17 Sep 04 - 02:11 PM (#1274273)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: M.Ted

I didn't say that stuff, others did--and to me, it looks pretty cold when written out on the page--


17 Sep 04 - 03:47 PM (#1274360)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: Cool Beans

Whoopi Goldberg used to begin her stage act standing behind the curtain and singing the national anthem,inserting the word motherfuckin'in the first line or two. That ought to work with any nation's anthem and it's guaranteed to clear the room of young 'uns. Trouble is, you might lose a few adults, too.


17 Sep 04 - 07:45 PM (#1274605)
Subject: Lyr Add: BOLD SIR JOHN (from The Two Ronnies)
From: Chris Green

The Two Ronnies song 'Bold Sir John' leaps to mind. I reprint it below...

Now Bold Sir John was young at heart,
And Bold Sir John was gay;
He strolled the woods, the fields all round,
A'heeding Mother Natures sounds;
The tittering of the birds all day,
The bumblebees at play.
(Chorus with Kids)
The Tit! The Tit! The Tit! The tit!
The tittering of the birds all day;
The Bum! The Bum! The Bum! The Bum!
The bumblebees at play.

As Bold Sir John continued on,
A'viewing natures ways;
He asked the Lord "Come tell me pray,
Why elephants live so long they say;
Your flies live but a day then they,
Drop dead upon the ground".

Your Flies! Your Flies! Your Flies! Your Flies!
Your flies live but a day then they;
Drop Dead! Drop Dead! Drop Dead! Drop Dead!
Drop dead upon the ground.

As Bold Sir John walked on afar,
He spied a maiden fair;
"I beg you sir don't come too near,
For I've seen many a maiden here;
Get lost amongst the new mown hay,
So doff your hat I pray".

Get lost! Get lost! Get lost! Get lost!
Get lost amongst the new mown hay.
Sod off! Sod off! Sod off! Sod off!
So doff your hat I pray.

When Bold Sir John return'ed home,
They gave him gin to try;
"Don't fill me with strong liquor up,
Nor give me grape nor grain to sup;
Pour cowslips dew into my cup,
A puritan am I

Poor Cow! Poor Cow! Poor Cow! Poor Cow!
Pour cowslips dew into my cup.
Up You! Up You! Up You! Up You! A Puritan am I


17 Sep 04 - 09:55 PM (#1274690)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: Joybell

Well yes, it does look a bit nasty written out. I don't imagine any of us would actually do cruel things to children. I certainly don't. We just know that our silly suggestions are not actually going to be taken up. There's a good number of sound and non-nasty ideas here too. Admittedly not put here by me. I'm usually nicer. Sorry. Grandma Joy.


17 Sep 04 - 10:59 PM (#1274718)
Subject: RE: Making my act LESS child-friendly
From: GUEST,.gargoyle

I would encourage you to visit the "rugby song" thread within the MC forum.

Begin your act with its "The Candy Man"

Any parents allowing their children to stay in the audience....should be given a business-card with the address of Michael Jackson's solicitor.

Sincerely,
Gargoyle