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09 Oct 04 - 02:30 PM (#1293233) Subject: BS: London cinema fire- Seeking info From: GUEST,Smiler A few years ago, I remember reading news of a fire that occurred in a cinema in London, with dozens of casualties. It was in a cinema showing porn films and I believe the casualties were all men. I remember also that the fire escapes were locked at the time. I am seeking more details for a project, and wonder if anyone has further information on this. I can't find anything on google, about the incident. I think it happened in the mid to late eighties. |
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09 Oct 04 - 04:20 PM (#1293297) Subject: RE: BS: London cinema fire- Seeking info From: Peace London Fire & Emergency Planning Authority 8 Albert Embankment London, SE1 7SD telephone: 020 7587 2000 (switchboard) email: info@london-fire.gov.uk These people may be able to direct you, Smiler. Maybe if you can get the name of the cinema that burned it will make searching easier. Also, some of the London 'catters may remember. Good luck with it. |
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09 Oct 04 - 04:36 PM (#1293312) Subject: RE: BS: London cinema fire- Seeking info From: McGrath of Harlow It wasn't a proper cinema as I remember, it was a private house. I think somewhere in the Smithfield area, quite near St Bartholomews Hspital (which would have been involved in treating survivors.) |
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10 Oct 04 - 01:16 PM (#1293854) Subject: RE: BS: London cinema fire- Seeking info From: Micca I had a vague memory of this incident but could only find this, it does contain enough to make your search a lot easier I think try the end of this piece |
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10 Oct 04 - 01:28 PM (#1293856) Subject: RE: BS: London cinema fire- Seeking info From: GUEST,smiler Thanks for replies. I shall enquire further on your info Brucie. I meant cinema broadly, in that it was showing movies to paid members of the public, and I believe there were many present. Whereas other disasters are well documented, this one seems to have been quietly forgotten. |
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10 Oct 04 - 01:32 PM (#1293861) Subject: RE: BS: London cinema fire- Seeking info From: GUEST,smiler Thanks Micca, my last post crossed with yours. I'll check it out |
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11 Oct 04 - 12:39 PM (#1294338) Subject: RE: BS: London cinema fire- Seeking info From: Mr Red as I remember it it was a gay porn "cinema" - actually a private house. It was probably a Victorian terrace property - but my memory does not serve me well. Highly illegal and there were prosecutions that ensued. If the doors were locked they may have had good reason since the police were interested in the commercial, decency and health and safety aspects. |
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11 Oct 04 - 01:36 PM (#1294403) Subject: RE: BS: London cinema fire- Seeking info From: Micca Mr Red, I think the situation was more that at that time a licensed members only Cinema Club could show "uncertificated" and therefore "pornographic" films provided membership was issued a full 24 hours before admission was sought, whether it was a "gay" cinema or not I do not recall, I remember this because I was taking my Occupational Health and Safety qualifications just after the event and we examined some of the legal implications of this case in Class. |
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11 Oct 04 - 01:46 PM (#1294409) Subject: RE: BS: London cinema fire- Seeking info From: McGrath of Harlow The main "health and safety aspect" would have been ensuring the fire exits were usable and so forth. If the exits were locked that would probably have been something to do with management making sure people couldn't sneak in without paying. |
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12 Oct 04 - 03:15 AM (#1294947) Subject: RE: BS: London cinema fire- Seeking info From: Micca Kevin, we were given this as an "real life" exercise in applying the existing H&S regulations to situation and determining what regs had been breached. it got VERY complicated, the more we learned, involving "duty of Care" and a lot more |
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12 Oct 04 - 07:44 AM (#1295055) Subject: RE: BS: London cinema fire- Seeking info From: Mr Red I think the postee was looking for leads - any ideas on dates? |
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12 Oct 04 - 08:04 AM (#1295077) Subject: RE: BS: London cinema fire- Seeking info From: Micca Mr Red, if you follow the link in my post of 10 October 1:16 Pm it gives both the dates of the event and of the trial from The Times report. |
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13 Oct 04 - 10:25 AM (#1296166) Subject: RE: BS: London cinema fire- Seeking info From: GUEST,smiler Cheers for the information Micca It has been very useful |
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13 Oct 04 - 12:52 PM (#1296267) Subject: RE: BS: London cinema fire- Seeking info From: Mr Red page 8 of 10 Feb 1994? |
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13 Oct 04 - 03:40 PM (#1296309) Subject: RE: BS: London cinema fire- Seeking info From: Micca Yeah, Mr Red, it says "Murder on 26 Feb 1994" so I suppose that was the date of the fire, altho, The Times wanted a subscription to read the full report in their archive, |
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13 Oct 04 - 05:40 PM (#1296398) Subject: RE: BS: London cinema fire- Seeking info From: Sarah the flute This was on my newspaper database Deaf man charged with nine murders in London cinema fire 127 words 3 March 1994 Agence France-Presse English (Copyright 1994) LONDON, March 3 (AFP) - A 34-year-old deaf man was Thursday charged with nine murders in connection with a fire at an unlicensed pornographic cinema last weekend. David Lauwers, a tailor's cutter with no fixed address, was remanded to custody for court appearance March 31. He was also charged with two counts of attempted murder. Lauwers was arrested late Monday after he went voluntarily to a London police station. Police said the fire was started when gasoline was poured through the mail slot of the three-story Victorian building that housed the second storey cinema. Nine people were killed and 15 were injured, four of whom remained in critical condition Thursday. aln/job |
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13 Oct 04 - 06:11 PM (#1296421) Subject: RE: BS: London cinema fire- Seeking info From: Mr Red I thought the media were reporting "Unlicensed cinema" at the time. |