15 Nov 04 - 04:34 AM (#1327090) Subject: Tune Req: Malborough From: CTMD Its a tune on Chris Lesley's new album 'Dancing Dances'. But I require the dotes to learn it as I have lent the cd to a friend. Can any one help? Chris |
15 Nov 04 - 05:21 AM (#1327106) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Malborough From: Wilfried Schaum German version, same tune as the original french version. Sing and enjoy Wilfried |
16 Nov 04 - 02:31 AM (#1328234) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Malborough From: Bob Bolton G'day Wilfred and CTMD, Yes ... that's pretty close to what the tune was said to be (in an article on this song being the first European "folk" song mentioned in the settlement of Australia ... basically the tune best known today as The Bear Went Over the Mountain. This (in French ... ~ Marlbrooke s'en va t'en Guerre ... ?) was the only song in common between Captain Philips' officers of the British 'First Fleet', anchored in Botany Bay in 1788 .. and the French officers of explorer Jean François de Galaup, Compte de La Perouse, who sailed into Botany Bay a few days after them. After they all gave the song a caning at night, it is alleged that the local natives (Eora nation Aboriginals?) were heard chanting the same tune in their canoes the next day! Regards, Bob |
16 Nov 04 - 04:41 AM (#1328303) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Malborough From: CTMD Cheers guys, But not what I was looking for. The tune Im looking for has 3 parts, is and has possible been used for morris. (However, not in the 'Black Book'). Chris |
16 Nov 04 - 06:03 AM (#1328336) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Malborough From: Wilfried Schaum The tune is so as I posted it. But there is a CD where three French songs are presented in sequence, viz. En Passant par la Lorraine/Aupres de ma Blonde/Marlbrough s'en va-t-en guerre. Maybe that's why you think the song should have three parts? Especially the first two ones are very lively and are apt for dancing or quick marching. |
16 Nov 04 - 06:05 AM (#1328338) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Malborough From: GUEST,MCP One reference said someone gave Sharp the name for "Old Marlborough", so that suggests that it's somewhere in the Sharp collection. Great Western appear to dance it, so you could try contacting them and see if someone could point you in the right direction: Great Western dances Mick |
16 Nov 04 - 01:52 PM (#1328846) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Malborough From: Malcolm Douglas Did Chris Leslie not say anything about the tune, or where he got it? He has certainly recorded Old Marlborough on Dancing Days; is that what you meant? It always helps to quote the correct title of a tune or recording when asking about it. Further information on both Marlborough and Old Marlborough can be found at Andrew Kuntz's The Fiddler's Companion. Although some of the sources from which details are taken are questionable, the site is an invaluable resource and should always be the first resort when enquiring about dance tunes. The pages are rather large at present, so I quote the entry for Old Marlborough here: OLD MARLBOROUGH. AKA ? "Heel and Toe." English, Morris Dance Tune (6/8 time). D Major. Standard. AABB. The tune goes with a heel and toe dance collected in the village of Fieldtown (Leafield), Oxfordshire, England. The first part of the melody is Yellow Joke [2], a companion of sorts to The Black Joke (although not the Yellow Joak published by Walsh in his third Lancashire collection). Bacon (The Morris Ring), 1974; pg. 160. X:1 T:Old Marlborough L:1/8 M:6/8 S:Bacon, The Morris Ring, 1974, 160. K:D d3 fed|dcB AGF|G2A Bcd|A2F DEF|G3 BAG|F3 D3:| |:G3 A3|Bcd e3|G3 A3|Bcd e2f|d2c d2B|A2G FGA|B2c dcB|A2F DEF|G3 BAG|F3 D3:|] For anyone not familiar with abc notation, I'll just mention that it can easily be converted to staff or midi; for example via http://www.concertina.net/tunes_convert.html |
18 Nov 04 - 08:31 AM (#1330991) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Malborough From: CTMD Cheers Malcom, Sorry about tune name, as I said I lent the CD to a friend, so didnt have full track list!! Chris |
18 Nov 04 - 09:55 AM (#1331053) Subject: RE: Tune Req: Malborough From: Wilfried Schaum CTMD - Methinks with CDs it's the same as with books. Old bibliophiler's wisdom: A fool who lends them, a fool who returns them. |