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30 Nov 04 - 06:25 AM (#1343011) Subject: BS: What is it about Dh? From: Davetnova You take a perfectly good drum, you call it a bowran, evrybody says oh thats nice. Then you take the Dh, it doesn't say anything, it doesn't do anything but suddenly everyone takes the piss. Is it a magic nonsylable? Are we allowed to insert it into other words to let people know it's alright to take the piss. Say forinstance - Beerdhgut (describing a subgroup of the genus folkus). |
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30 Nov 04 - 06:58 AM (#1343025) Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh? From: The Fooles Troupe Only Dhumb people will laugh at this... Stop Smiling!!!!! |
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30 Nov 04 - 07:22 AM (#1343041) Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh? From: GUEST ? |
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30 Nov 04 - 07:45 AM (#1343064) Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh? From: GUEST,John O'Lennaine Like "bandhjo" you mean? (Which, come to think of it, is just a bowran with strings and a dh.) |
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30 Nov 04 - 08:43 AM (#1343111) Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh? From: Cluin With the o and the r, it forms a dipthong... the non-crotchless kind. |
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30 Nov 04 - 10:48 AM (#1343229) Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh? From: mack/misophist Here's the answer given in a Gaelic grammar I read a long time ago. Gaelic spelling hasn't changed greatly since the Middle Ages but the pronunciation has (like all languages). The old spelling became almost sancrosact,however; probably during the times when the language was more or less outlawed. All those extra h's are there mostly to show what letters not to pronounce. I've probably forgotten a bit but that's the gist of it. Written Tibetan has a similar pecularity. |
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30 Nov 04 - 11:15 AM (#1343260) Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh? From: wysiwyg Well, linguistically, I think it's a heads-up to suspend the usual pronunciation and a clue it's going to be a foreign-sounding word or concept. How else account for jodhpurs? But were they jowpers all along and nobody told me? ~S~ |
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30 Nov 04 - 12:44 PM (#1343369) Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh? From: Dead Horse 'ead 'orse? |
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30 Nov 04 - 04:48 PM (#1343618) Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh? From: fat B****rd Dho ! (somebody had to) |
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30 Nov 04 - 05:23 PM (#1343662) Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh? From: PoppaGator Aren't they "jodphurs," with the common "ph" dipthong that sounds like "f"? I know that in Irish "bh" = "v" (as Cobh = "cove" and Siulliabhan = Sullivan), and thought that "dh" had some other assigned phoetic sound, even if it's often barely vocalized. |
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30 Nov 04 - 05:31 PM (#1343671) Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh? From: GUEST,milk monitor And then there's the dhol drum....go Johnny Kalsi, go! |
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30 Nov 04 - 09:47 PM (#1343872) Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh? From: GUEST,leeneia Irish has so many silent letters. They must think paper grows on trees! |
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30 Nov 04 - 11:35 PM (#1343968) Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh? From: GUEST,Brendy It is pronounced as a 'Y' a 'G', or a 'W' ... depending on the word. How do you pronounce 'read'? B. |
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30 Nov 04 - 11:54 PM (#1343979) Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh? From: wysiwyg No, PG, it's joDHpur and usually mispronounced PH. ~S~ |
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01 Dec 04 - 12:10 AM (#1343991) Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh? From: Peace d -> dh this is a deep, guttural, throat clearing sound that doesn't exist in English or many other languages. If you can make the "ch" sound, try to vibrate your vocal cords. The result will be how "ch" is pronounced before A, O, U. (From a site about Irish Gaelic.) |
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01 Dec 04 - 12:15 AM (#1343995) Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh? From: Peace M-W Online Dictionary Main Entry: jodh·pur Pronunciation: 'jäd-(")p&r Function: noun Etymology: Jodhpur, India 1 plural : riding breeches cut full through the hips and close-fitting from knee to ankle 2 : an ankle-high boot fastened with a strap that is buckled at the side -- called also jodhpur boot |
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01 Dec 04 - 03:44 AM (#1344093) Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh? From: Davetnova See that proves it. Jodhpurs are strange looking things and the're not even Irish. Dhave |
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01 Dec 04 - 09:13 AM (#1344287) Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh? From: Snuffy We've enough fodhreign words aldhready. |
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01 Dec 04 - 09:22 AM (#1344300) Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh? From: mooman My favourite set of useless consonants is "ghtsbr". As in, for example, "Knightsbridge" which also has a "kn" and a "dg". Peace moo |
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01 Dec 04 - 09:34 PM (#1344984) Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh? From: GUEST,leeneia Here's something to think about (though not for long.) Once I was in the Everglades of Florida, talking to a Scotsman named Campbell. He jeered at Mrazek Pond, saying "M-r! How is a person supposed to pronounce that?" Later, I realized that I should have replied, " And m-p-b! (as in the middle of Campbell) how is a person supposed to pronounce THAT?" Now really, when English speakers say "br" all the time, is "mr" so hard? Mooman: interesting observation about Knightsbridge. That is a lot of consonants in a row. |
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01 Dec 04 - 10:10 PM (#1345015) Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh? From: Bee-dubya-ell ...when English speakers say "br" all the time, is "mr" so hard? That's right, leeneia, why are "mr" and "sr" only used in the middle of English words (like "drumroll" and "disrobe"), but never in the beginning? After all, there are people in Sri Lanka who play the mridanga. |
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02 Dec 04 - 06:22 AM (#1345267) Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh? From: GUEST,Brendy In the Donegal dialect, the 'mn' in the word 'mná' (meaning 'woman') is pronounced 'mrr' (sort of...). 'Cnoc' (meaning 'hill'), is therefore pronounced 'Crrock' (again, sort of...) ... too early in the day for proper phonetics, but I'm sure you get the drift... :-) B. |
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02 Dec 04 - 07:26 PM (#1345834) Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh? From: Shanghaiceltic On one of the submarines I served on we had a rather disliked officer, his first name was Rick, he was just called Rick with a silent 'P' |
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03 Dec 04 - 09:55 AM (#1346332) Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh? From: Pete Jennings Where's Sir jODhn of Dhull? |
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03 Dec 04 - 10:15 AM (#1346348) Subject: RE: BS: What is it about Dh? From: RichM I like words. I like etymology. A few years ago, I decided to simplify the spelling of my own communications. For instans, "psychiatry" became "sIkIatree". And "lighting"becAm "LIting". I had to giv it up tho. Peepl kudn't understand it. And my emAls to my wIf annoid her. |