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20 Jan 05 - 05:17 PM (#1383635) Subject: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: thespionage Who out there plays/sings traditional or modern folk music who is of college (university)-age? (Emphasis on those in the states.) Russ Practitioner of Thespioange and Folk Music |
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20 Jan 05 - 05:26 PM (#1383644) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: beetle cat MEEEEEE. From NY, In Newfoundland, if that counts. mary |
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20 Jan 05 - 05:40 PM (#1383667) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: GUEST i'm still in high school, biznatch! |
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20 Jan 05 - 05:44 PM (#1383672) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: beetle cat where? |
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20 Jan 05 - 06:41 PM (#1383711) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: thespionage Guest, that's excellent! I wish I had known about this site when I was in high school. Beetle Cat (Mary?), I go to school at SUNY New Paltz. |
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20 Jan 05 - 06:50 PM (#1383719) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: Edain I do, but I'm in the UK (although I spent the last academic year in California |
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20 Jan 05 - 06:59 PM (#1383724) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: thespionage Edain, that's still great. Have you heard of this festival? www.stalbansfolkmusic.org.uk |
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20 Jan 05 - 07:07 PM (#1383732) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: thespionage Beetle Cat, what kind of stuff do you play/sing? Russ |
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20 Jan 05 - 07:12 PM (#1383738) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: Edain The link doesn't work but unfortunately I'm at the other end of the country than St Albans. There are however planet of nice festivals over here that I do go to :) |
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20 Jan 05 - 07:33 PM (#1383759) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: thespionage Ah, that's too bad. And the second part is good. But at least you're on the right side of the pond! Russ Practitioner of Thespionage and Folk Music |
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20 Jan 05 - 08:22 PM (#1383783) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: beetle cat Trad mostly, a little concertina now and then, a lot of old nautical stuff, shanties and the like. love the watersons too (is there anyone else like them?- a category of their own?), and other various things. Im not good or anything, i just like to do it. How about yourself? mary. |
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20 Jan 05 - 09:14 PM (#1383818) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: thespionage I love the traditional stuff. I regret that I have never heard the Watersons, but I'm really into the Weavers and groups like the Limeliters, the Kingston Trio, etc. I happen to play quite a few Woody Guthrie songs, and I know the entirety of Arlo's Alice's Restaurant Massacree. How about instruments? Russ |
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21 Jan 05 - 01:26 AM (#1383986) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: Peter Kasin Where are you, Russ? If in NYC, SF, or Boston areas, I could recommend some musicians 25 and under to look up. Chanteyranger |
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21 Jan 05 - 02:31 AM (#1384004) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: thespionage I am between Long Island and New Paltz (I go to school at SUNY New Paltz). Thanks! Russ |
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21 Jan 05 - 06:55 AM (#1384121) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: muppitz Nearly 23 and in the UK, near Nottingham to be precise. Play guitar, a little bit of whistle, trying (although it seems futilly) to take up the mandolin, sing trad stuff, shanties, chorus songs, anything really (!) as well as writing my own. (Oo 'eck, I feel like I'm writing a CV!) muppitz X |
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21 Jan 05 - 07:52 AM (#1384154) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: breezy muppitz, did you or do you go to the Carrington folk Club somewhere Nottos way or the Robin Hood? Im in st Albans and run the Windward and Spotlight clubs. I know the orgs of the subject on the blueness. Not many young folk into 'folk' Check out Stan Rogers, he was a young writer. as well as www.folk4all.net good hunting |
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21 Jan 05 - 08:06 AM (#1384159) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: The Unicorn Man Just in case nobody went into the web site that The Spionage was on about, if you are under 25 and play acoustic music, you may like to know about New Roots which is run by Ali MacFarlane in St Albans. It gives young people a chance to meet and play with other young people and some of the prizes include playing at Towersey and Cambridge Folk Festivals. And if you are really lucky you could get to play at The Friendly Earth Acoustic Gathering. Yeah Man. If you need more details www.stalbansfolkmusic.org.uk or PM me. or Alison MacFarlane. Cheers The Spionage. Martin Dent. |
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21 Jan 05 - 08:07 AM (#1384160) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: Crystal I'm 21 and up in Bonnie Scotland. I sing and do loads of traditional dance. I'm proud to have been a folkie all my life. |
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21 Jan 05 - 09:00 AM (#1384221) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: Freso I've been 20 years of age for almost two months now, and I'm from the capital city of Denmark. ;) |
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21 Jan 05 - 09:20 AM (#1384236) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: Cod Fiddler I'm 26. Lonely, woebegone and discriminated against, I sojourn on this thread against your wills. Boo hoo hoo. I weep and sigh full sore that I am forced to mix with mature people with beards and bulges(though they be wise and good) rather than dynamic and beautiful young folkies of less than 25. I live in Hull, UK and play anything that is fun on a fiddle! |
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21 Jan 05 - 09:44 AM (#1384257) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: The Shambles *Smiles* I am thinking of starting a folk music site for one-legged - red-haired - black - gay - lesbians - but only those over the age of 97. These appeals may be understandable but as they exclude (only on grounds of age) - rather than include - perhaps a little more thought can be given? |
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21 Jan 05 - 10:36 AM (#1384303) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: Cod Fiddler I have red hair. I am truly afflicted! I am finding it difficult to keep a stiff upper lip. My eyes are welling up and my composure is diminishing. oh dear... |
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21 Jan 05 - 12:04 PM (#1384414) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: GUEST What folk activities are folk under the age of 25 presently excluded from by these terrible despotic older folkies? Or is just that these young folk do not wish to associate with any folk musicians over the age of 25 (there are rather a lot of them)? |
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21 Jan 05 - 12:24 PM (#1384441) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: Cod Fiddler Neither Guest. Both groups seem happy to mix generally but 25 is the youth cut-off at Folk Works and also applies to entry for the Ethno gatherings. At 26, I all alone beweep my outcast state. Over-aged, I once went to a youth workshop hosted by Sam Pirt. When I told him I was too old, he said "Youth is a state of mind". Wise words, though I acknowledge the need for a cut-off at some point. |
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21 Jan 05 - 04:22 PM (#1384638) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: EagleWing "I have red hair. I am truly afflicted! I am finding it difficult to keep a stiff upper lip. My eyes are welling up and my composure is diminishing. oh dear..." Ah - to be only 26 with nothing more than an upper lip to worry about... Frank L (61) |
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21 Jan 05 - 04:55 PM (#1384668) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: thespionage Chanteyranger (by the way all, my name is Thespionage *not* The Spionage), do you know about people in the New York area? As to the question from GUEST, the reason I was looking for folkies my age was to know that I am not the only one (I knew there had to be others), and so that I could share my perspective and joy with my peers. I love talking folk with "older" people, but that's all I've been able to do. I hope that clears everything up. Russ Practitioner of Thespionage and Folk Music |
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21 Jan 05 - 05:51 PM (#1384712) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: Willa Far too old to qualify, but those of you in the UK who are young enough might like to take a look at this site http://www.smith4.karoo.net/ |
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21 Jan 05 - 06:14 PM (#1384732) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: The Shambles Those of us who are now over 25 (especially those who are just 26) - were once 25 and those who are now less than 25 - will one day be over 25. The music does not change very much. But if you are not passed it at 26 and want to do more than make and talk folk music ('shucks' - like kissing, making-out and suchlike) one can understand that a 61 year-old folkie would not be your ideal choice. And looking for someone your own age (or younger, as long as they don't think you to be too old) would be understandable. However and more seriously, there is also always the warning that should be made that - appeals for young people to make contact via the internet - may not be all they seem and the people making them may not in fact be the age they claim to be........ |
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21 Jan 05 - 06:17 PM (#1384735) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: The Shambles I have been 25 now - for at least 28 years. |
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22 Jan 05 - 12:15 AM (#1384943) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: thespionage I understand the dangers of the Internet. I was just looking for someone my own age to chat with about folk music. I have nothing against talking and playing folk music (as well as other genres) with individuals older than I am, but that is all I have been able to do thus far. I sent out the message to find the younger "folkies" merely because I had met very few people who shared my enthusiasm who are my age. I already have older people with whom to talk and play folk music, so I didn't look for them. I wouldn't look for a computer on the Internet, because I already have one that satisfies me. It's the same thing. I love to chat about folk music, which is why I joined Mudcat. As you may notice, I also join in on many other threads; I am not preoccupied with people who are under 26 (The Shambles, I picked 25 because it is a round number, that's all). I hope I didn't offend anyone, but I just wanted to say hello to the other "young 'uns" out there. If I did offend, I am sorry and I am proud to be on Mudcat with you. Russ Practitioner of Thespionage and Folk Music |
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22 Jan 05 - 01:27 AM (#1384961) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: Neighmond I missed the deadline by two years-I am 27. Chaz |
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22 Jan 05 - 02:52 AM (#1384989) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: thespionage Haha. Don't worry about it. |
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22 Jan 05 - 05:24 AM (#1385029) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: GUEST,The Shambles I do understand your point of view and that no offence was intended. None was taken - I was just pointing out that there were a few other considerations. We have many things that divide and exclude us in the real world. Race, gender race, religion and age are a few of these. Online these things only threaten to divide us if we allow them to, by specifing them - for no one would be aware of them unless we write and do this. Why don't you just assume that all contributors to the forum are under 25 and how do you know that they are not? For most of us would be unlikely to write and correct this - if only we were - 25 again. Music to me is one way that - whatever our differences - we can all unite and speak the same language. The various attempts we make to encourage younger folk are well-intended but these schemes do have to set an age limit. This can prove be counter-productive - especially for those borderline cases like our poor Cod Fiddler here - who has to feel guilty and over -the hill at 26 - if they are lucky enough to be able to be squeezed in to events that should officially exclude them. The other downside to the Folkworks youngsters - in my experience in sessions with some of them - is that they tend to play (often the sets they rehearse) as a group and this can prevent others from joining in - which after is the main point of such informal gatherings. This could lead to a possible and quite artificial division on the grounds of age. I feel that this would be especially sad - as every session I have ever attended (and there are many) - far from excluding younger players - will always bend over backwards to encourage their participation. |
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22 Jan 05 - 01:26 PM (#1385312) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: breezy from the age of 25 ish, one retreats gradually from folk based activities to re-emerge some 30 years later fully metamorphasised, the kids having gone and the wife has left and hair has thinned and greyed to rediscover you can play play 3 chords and go out on your own to clandestine gatherings in the company of other sad cases similar to yourself. The St Albans folk club meets every Friday and Sunday in the upstairs room of the Royal British Legion, Verulam Road, St Albans Herts, UEng U K Non-smoking, full guest list, lots of catters. We have an open-age policy. |
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22 Jan 05 - 03:05 PM (#1385384) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: Tutti Flutey I, at the tender age of, yes, 25, am just really finding my feet in folk music and have to agree that I feel slightly discriminated against as once the summer schools roll round I will have crossed that boundary to ye olde folk but, having attended folkworks last year, would really appreciate the opporunity to concentrate on the solely younger end of the age bracket for a while longer. Please note here that no discrimination is meant to anyone over 25 it is just my personal edge at the minute as I like to associate with people more my own age that the over 40s and struggle to find such people with an interest in folk music. I take refuge however, in knowing that the above mentioned (by Cod Fiddler) Sam Pirt will himself be 26 this year also. T-F |
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22 Jan 05 - 09:52 PM (#1385641) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: thespionage I really wish there were organizations like St. Albans in the States, preferably in New York region because that's where I live! I'm also considering bringing along my guitar or banjo to the next Clearwater Festival. Russ |
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23 Jan 05 - 03:10 AM (#1385790) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: goodbar i would never be able to jam with anyone over 20. |
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23 Jan 05 - 05:20 AM (#1385890) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: The Unicorn Man Hello TF you have just cheered me up. I am only 39 so I must be in your younger bracket. For a few months anyway. |
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23 Jan 05 - 11:06 AM (#1386072) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: Tutti Flutey Glad to be of assistance |
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23 Jan 05 - 11:28 AM (#1386087) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: John C. I'm 56 but I wish that I'd learned to play the fiddle, banjo etc. when I was < 25! Just keep doing it - leaving aside how good you are now, just imagine how good you'll be at my age, after you've had all that practice! |
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23 Jan 05 - 11:41 AM (#1386103) Subject: RE: Young Folkies (Under 25) From: thespionage Thanks for the compliment! Russ |