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03 Feb 05 - 10:31 AM (#1397889) Subject: so can this be considered Folk ????????? From: GUEST,punkfolkrocker see what you think of this 18 year old's interpretation of a classic melody and lyric [the 1st of the 3 songs of this artist demo soundfile] http://www.billyfury.com/featuredartist/laura.ram is this the Folk process alive and well in the UK ? |
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03 Feb 05 - 10:55 AM (#1397914) Subject: RE: so can this be considered Folk ????????? From: Bill D "classic"?.....seems 'modern' to me, and like many modern attempts to capture a topical theme, it goes for the jugular by 'saying' the emotions, rather than allowing the listener to 'find' the point. It doesn't feel like 'folk'...but that argument has already been done to death. It's hard to put on a label, when we just don't agree. You don't say if the young lady is the author, or just singing it, but her voice, while ok, sounds like she is trying too hard to be moving and emotional....but she IS 18.... well, you asked...*smile* (I may not be the best test case, as I am firmly rooted in older styles) |
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03 Feb 05 - 01:01 PM (#1398086) Subject: RE: so can this be considered Folk ????????? From: GUEST I followed the link to source and copied this extract: "Laura is from Northampton and was 18 in January.... Having spent an enjoyable weekend in Liverpool .., she was deeply affected by the murder of a 16-year-old boy - a victim of a drugs turf war in the city." Maybe, guessing she wrote the new lyrics, this is too emotional and too 'girly an approach for some of you old male folk 'critics'. I think the tune is vintage and well loved enough to be considered a 'classic, and worthy of being assimilated into a living folk tradition. Very nicely performed by a young woman, I presume to be learning the ropes and experimenting with direction as a talented young singer/writer. is she good enough to make it big like Kate or Dido, etc; who knows ? |
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03 Feb 05 - 05:46 PM (#1398245) Subject: RE: so can this be considered Folk ????????? From: Bernard Does it need a label or a pigeonhole? Can it not just be appreciated as it is? |
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03 Feb 05 - 06:07 PM (#1398261) Subject: RE: so can this be considered Folk ????????? From: Tannywheeler Is she good enough... This thing is less than a month old. Only TIME |
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03 Feb 05 - 06:39 PM (#1398311) Subject: RE: so can this be considered Folk ????????? From: The Fooles Troupe AHHHHHH! Why don't you all just Folk off! Sorry! Got carried away.... perform your own style - if it sells great.... |
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03 Feb 05 - 10:51 PM (#1398559) Subject: RE: so can this be considered Folk ????????? From: thespionage The vocals sound a lot like modern pop, which is neither good nor bad. The arrangement is very modern and I would hesitate to call it folk music, at least as I have come to understand the meaning. As a 19-year-old folksinger who plays guitar, banjo and mandolin, I would say that the older traditions are alive in the younger generation as well. Since part of the folk process, as Pete Seeger explained it, is to write new words to old tunes, I am part of the process in that aspect as well. I write parodies that are often funny—remember that Woody Guthrie's often contained humor—usually satirical, and nearly always contain at least a little bit of social commentary, even if that commentary is no more than "theatre people shouldn't procrastinate." I still think the song is fairly nice. Take it easy, but take it. —Woody Guthrie Russ Practitioner of Thespionage |
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03 Feb 05 - 11:06 PM (#1398570) Subject: RE: so can this be considered Folk ????????? From: Q (Frank Staplin) Give it a hundred years. Then ask. |
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04 Feb 05 - 03:46 AM (#1398676) Subject: RE: so can this be considered Folk ????????? From: The Fooles Troupe Is it a hundred years since Woody already? |
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04 Feb 05 - 07:02 AM (#1398769) Subject: RE: so can this be considered Folk ????????? From: Lanfranc No, it just feels like it! Alan |
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04 Feb 05 - 10:39 AM (#1398939) Subject: RE: so can this be considered Folk ????????? From: Bill D Woody gets 5 out of 9 on the 'purist' index of arcane categories, so he is 'accepted', though not a full member. (HE don't get to be a FULL member till someone asks if he was a real person...and can't get a quick answer....*grin*) |
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04 Feb 05 - 11:26 AM (#1398974) Subject: RE: so can this be considered Folk ????????? From: TheBigPinkLad Nowt wrong with that. She's a canny singer, even if imitative of the American diva-clone. She swiped an established tune and wrote about current affairs. It'll never make No. 1 and it's forgettable, so I'd say yes, very much in the folk tradition ;o) Enjoy being 18, Laura. And good luck ... don't give up! |
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04 Feb 05 - 12:50 PM (#1399087) Subject: RE: so can this be considered Folk ????????? From: GUEST,Jim Good voice, but to my ears too much influenced by "the American diva-clone" mentioned above. I'd like to hear her natural voice style when she reverts to it though. The song does nowt f'me, but I'm just an ignorant Yorkie Folkie - good luck to the lass. |
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04 Feb 05 - 12:53 PM (#1399091) Subject: RE: so can this be considered Folk ????????? From: GUEST,Jim Off to see Rosie Deighton at the Rockingham Arms next Friday - now there's a grand Yorkshire folk voice f'ya! |
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04 Feb 05 - 02:14 PM (#1399175) Subject: RE: so can this be considered Folk ????????? From: Hamish I win! I got "Unable to establish a connection with the server." ;-) |
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04 Feb 05 - 09:51 PM (#1399623) Subject: RE: so can this be considered Folk ????????? From: McGrath of Harlow Good voice. I'd like to hear it with the "soul" turned down - it gets in the way of the story. Of course that's part of that style, but I don't think it helps express the real feeling. You find yourself listening to the vocal tricks rather than the words and following the story. |
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04 Feb 05 - 10:43 PM (#1399664) Subject: RE: so can this be considered Folk ????????? From: GUEST,.gargoyle I believe your emotional attachment has distorted the perception.
Sincerely, |
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04 Feb 05 - 11:09 PM (#1399687) Subject: RE: so can this be considered Folk ????????? From: Bobert In the purist sense it is folk music... Would I buy it? No... Bobert |