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22 Mar 05 - 12:25 PM (#1440649) Subject: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Barney Bonobo There has been an alarming media campaign underway lately to discredit primates. The recent incident in California with the chimps is a case in point. Little has been said about the awful conditions those chimps were exposed to by the zoo in which they were incarcerated. Many primates in custody have been forced to watch reruns of embarrassing movies like "Bedtime for Bonzo". After awhile this results in a disastrous loss of self-esteem and deeply suppressed anger, and that can surface in sudden acts of violence. The real tragedy is that most of the violence is primate-on-primate, but you don't hear about that on the news, do you? No, unless a ruling class human being gets his lily-white skin bruised you won't hear "ook" about it. Primate-on-primate violence results in thousands of deaths and injuries yearly in the USA, but most of it goes unreported. Meanwhile, lurid stories are being spread about the sexual habits of Bonobos, implying that all Bonobos are sex maniacs in a constant state of seething lust. This is ludicrous, and it amounts to hate propaganda. Gorillas are traditionally cast in the role of the "heavy", and are seen as brutally vicious attackers and monsters who carry off blonde women, King-Kong style, to some hideous fate in their jungle lair. Monkeys are routinely portrayed as hysterical, witless, silly, screeching little creatures, and used for comic relief. This kind of gross stereotyping is Anti-Primatism of the most virulent sort, and should be named for what it is and ended once and for all. |
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22 Mar 05 - 12:30 PM (#1440655) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Lester Capuchin You are so right!!! I get screeching mad about it all the time!!! I jump up and down and holler and yell about it and rattle the bars and yell some more, and NOBODY listens!!! After awhile I just give up and go back to reading Goethe for a bit... |
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22 Mar 05 - 12:35 PM (#1440663) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: wysiwyg Not to worry. The Anti Primate Defense League (APDL) is forming even as we speak. It's always unfortunate when, due to the ignorance of the masses, the ill-advised actions of a few result in widespread and negative STEREOTYPES. I've been guilty of perpetuating those images myself, and I apologize. ~Susan |
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22 Mar 05 - 12:42 PM (#1440677) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Wolfgang What you criticise cannot be named anti-primatism, for human are primates as well, so by definition what they do or say cannot be anti-primatism. Wolfgang |
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22 Mar 05 - 12:47 PM (#1440688) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp Man, that is one OFFENSIVE movie about the chimp with the guy's girlfriend. I am glad the APDL is formin' to deal with this kind of stuff. The thing about gorillas carryin' off only blondes is inaccurate, BTW. They ain't all that particular, when it comes right down to it. |
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22 Mar 05 - 12:48 PM (#1440689) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Anarchist Ape What a bunch of ape-ologist twaddle! Forget about trying to convince humans what good guys we are! The time has come for us to claim our own! Don't let the deaths of the martyred California Chimps be in vain! Humans have had the upper hand for far too many years! Let's show them that "Planet of the Apes" is more than fiction! And let's make that Carlton Heston creep the next to pay! |
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22 Mar 05 - 12:50 PM (#1440696) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Beyonce Baboon Well, that sounds like a familiar refrain, Wolfgang. It may be that humans are primates, technically speaking, but in the common vernacular "primate" is not usually used to denote humans, is it? I think the meaning of the term Anti-Primatism is therefore quite clear to most people. |
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22 Mar 05 - 01:01 PM (#1440715) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Guy Gibbon Primataphobes are the worst sort of vermin to walk/shuffle/slither this earth if you ask me. My best mate's a bononbo, and although he's barking mad, he's not bonking mad. |
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22 Mar 05 - 01:05 PM (#1440723) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Wolfgang Just making fun of some posters in the anti-semitism thread who seemed to believe this could be a valid argument. It's a misnomer anyway one of them wrote sounding serious. That's an interesting thread, BTW, I even pondered posting the following sentence in the thread about gypsies without indicating I was quoting and waiting for the interesting reactions: I do not regard their actions as being above criticism because of something the Nazis did to their parents or grandparents over 55 years ago in response to McGrath reminding us of what has happened to the Roma in the holocaust. But then I thought I should be nicer than that. Wolfgang |
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22 Mar 05 - 01:13 PM (#1440734) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST ook? |
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22 Mar 05 - 01:14 PM (#1440735) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST EEK! EEK! EEK! |
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22 Mar 05 - 01:22 PM (#1440741) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Bonzo Writing from the retired animal actors' home......... In two movies, I was the title character. Ronnie got paid lavishly and went on to be presidunce of the untied snapes. All I got out of the deal as a couple of lousy bananas! There is good reason for screeching and rattling the bars! |
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22 Mar 05 - 01:25 PM (#1440745) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Ralphie in Boston Add to that the fact that Bonzo could act way better than Reagan, and you realize the true injustice of it. You will never see an ape nominated to run for president. Never. |
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22 Mar 05 - 01:28 PM (#1440751) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Amos There's a growing backlash of anti-simianism in those parts of Africa where humans evolved from simians. SOme people just want to forget their roots and turn their back on those they once depended on. A |
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22 Mar 05 - 01:31 PM (#1440755) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Bonzo Thanks, Ralphie (sniff, wiping away a tear). It's nice to have ones art acknowledged. |
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22 Mar 05 - 01:36 PM (#1440759) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Little Hawk I've been shocked by the anti-simianism in this town. I think Wolfgang's tendency to nitpick this very important issue over issues of mere semantics is disrespectful, and it may well be indicative of a not too well hidden anti-simian aspect in his own character. (grin) |
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22 Mar 05 - 01:40 PM (#1440765) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Amos I think we saw a chimp run for the White House once... A |
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22 Mar 05 - 01:44 PM (#1440772) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Bonzo By the way, one nice touch. The retired animal actors' home is in California, near San Simian. Rin Tin Tin is pretty senile now, but he's nice enough. But that Lassie is a real egomaniac. My best buddy is Cheetah. Used to work in the Tarzan movies with Johnny Weismuller. |
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22 Mar 05 - 01:47 PM (#1440777) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Little Hawk Cheetah was just a youngster when they did those films. The fully-grown Cheetah could have tossed Weismuller around like a baseball. |
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22 Mar 05 - 02:37 PM (#1440813) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Uncle_DaveO Ralphie in Boston said, inter alia: You will never see an ape nominated to run for president. Never. If you look at the pictures in the news, it appears that a simian has "passed" as human, and is now president of the United States! Dave Oesterreich |
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22 Mar 05 - 02:45 PM (#1440821) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: jacqui.c Dave - you beat me to it! |
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22 Mar 05 - 02:45 PM (#1440822) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Man Drill This arguing is beyond me. I'll think I'll pick my nose for a bit, and then lie on my back try to piss into my mouth. |
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22 Mar 05 - 02:50 PM (#1440826) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Once Famous Sorry, Chongo, but I usually shun anything that has to do with chimps. |
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22 Mar 05 - 05:32 PM (#1440984) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: McGrath of Harlow Some primates are primates twice over. For example the Archbishop of Canterbury. |
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22 Mar 05 - 05:58 PM (#1441008) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,observer Martin Gibson says: "Sorry, Chongo, but I usually shun anything to do with chimps." That's because he shuns all things that are smarter than he is. Martin, you twit... |
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22 Mar 05 - 07:14 PM (#1441072) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Mrrzy Humans can be anti-primate just as jews can be antisemitic. Sounds like an OK word to me, but I don't see it in the world. |
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22 Mar 05 - 07:27 PM (#1441085) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: McGrath of Harlow It's hair prejudice by some naked apes. Like all hair prejudice, its roots are in jealousy. |
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22 Mar 05 - 07:44 PM (#1441100) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Layah In a vaguely more serious vein, I think people actually do have some sort of negative reaction to non-human primates. Or at least are scared of admitting they might be intelligent. In doing some research for an essay about ape language experiments, I have run time and again into people who irregardless of evidence uniformly dimiss any possibility that apes could learn anything approximating language. I think they decide humans are special because they have language, and so they are worried they won't be special anymore if apes can learn language. Just like when they used to say only humans made tools, or only humans had opposable thumbs, both of which are incorrect. Unfortunately, the evidence that apes can learn language from what I've read is more anecdotal than scientificly proven. Depending greatly on how you define language as well. |
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22 Mar 05 - 07:47 PM (#1441107) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: bobad separated at birth? |
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22 Mar 05 - 07:50 PM (#1441110) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Little Hawk The ape has nicer ears. Bush's ears are pointed. |
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22 Mar 05 - 07:53 PM (#1441116) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Layah baby chimps have the cutest ears I've ever seen. I want a baby chimp. |
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22 Mar 05 - 08:07 PM (#1441131) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST yum yum. couldn't eat a whole one though. |
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22 Mar 05 - 10:08 PM (#1441199) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Magilla Gorilla CLICK! |
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22 Mar 05 - 10:09 PM (#1441201) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Little Hawk GAAHHHH!!! |
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26 Apr 05 - 04:57 PM (#1471661) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Master Chimp Amen. I feel that primates are extremelyt smart. We need to protect primates as if they were humans. |
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26 Apr 05 - 05:46 PM (#1471711) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Little Hawk Well said. |
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26 Apr 05 - 06:17 PM (#1471756) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: SINSULL I had decided to keep this quiet at least until I could sort it out with Big Mick but a rather pregnant KoKO has appeared at my door. She rambles on about her big red boy and the upcoming marriage. Having been on the receiving end of one of Mick's proposals, I took pity and gave her a home which she is eating me out of. Doc says twins. So Layah, you may have your wish. Although I believe they will be gorillas. |
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26 Apr 05 - 07:33 PM (#1471818) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Little Hawk It figures. Another case of blatant exploitation of naive primates by silver-tongued human...well, semi-human...scoundrels! The fact is, humans and apes are both special. Dogs are special too. Just ask my dog and he will tell you all about it. |
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26 Apr 05 - 10:59 PM (#1471948) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: SINSULL My cat Ed is special - "Special Ed". |
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27 Apr 05 - 05:49 AM (#1472121) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: RobbieWilson H'Angus the monkey elected Mayor in Hartlepool, England link There is some history here Historic Footballing Chimp |
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27 Apr 05 - 08:56 AM (#1472259) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Seamus O'Rangutan I see that MARTIN GIBBON has been around again. Shame on him, hanging around like that. I don't believe he's 'armless you know. |
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27 Apr 05 - 05:03 PM (#1472724) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Dorothy Lemur "Just making fun of some posters in the anti-semitism thread who seemed to believe this could be a valid argument. It's a misnomer anyway one of them wrote sounding serious." - Wolfgang Our friend the canine makes a good point. Aren't Arabs semites? Aren't a lot of the people whining about "anti-semitism" complaining about among others, Arabs? Would those same primates, particularly a very Marginal Gibbon, far removed from the cradle of the semitics, who shall not be named, call their own condemnation of Palestinians what it is, antisemitism? Why can't monkey's, apes and other primates whine about anti-primatism from humans? Why must humans have a monopoly on childish, irrational behavior? |
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27 Apr 05 - 06:23 PM (#1472815) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Little Hawk Exactly! By golly, if hamsters had more access to the media, I bet we'd get an earfull about anti-rodentism. |
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28 Apr 05 - 08:29 AM (#1473066) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Mrr Hee hee - read this as anti-priapism on the rise, nudge nudge wink wink! |
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28 Apr 05 - 01:39 PM (#1473354) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Mae (Bonobo) West. priapism As in "When taking Levitra if you have an erection lasting more than four hours, call your doctor." I'd say call me! |
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01 Nov 05 - 05:42 PM (#1595307) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp I figured it was time to refresh this, cos the problem ain't goin' away. Matter of fact, it's gettin' worse. I got spat on today by someone in a bus goin' by. This sorta thing does not help relations between apes and humans one bit. If I find him, he is gonna need plastic surgery. - Chongo |
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01 Nov 05 - 05:44 PM (#1595309) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Cluin We'll stop spitting when you stop flinging your feces around. |
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01 Nov 05 - 06:02 PM (#1595322) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Bill D ♫ "Fling it here-fling it there, And if you're passin' by, then you'll sure get you're share" ♫ |
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01 Nov 05 - 06:03 PM (#1595326) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp That's just the sort of thing I'm talkin' about! I am sick and tired of bein' stereotyped like that. If you had been ripped from the bosom of your family and locked in a stinkin' cage and gawked at for years by rubes from the suburbs then you'd probably get pretty weird too after awhile. - Chongo |
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01 Nov 05 - 06:58 PM (#1595352) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Cluin The only thing worse than those rabid, Ebola-ridden, feces-hurling monkeys are their twisted, evil, psychopathic Clown overlords. |
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01 Nov 05 - 09:04 PM (#1595424) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Mark Cohen Check out this book, written by a friend of mine: No Chimp Left Behind. And there's even a song, as my friend is a musician and songwriter. Aloha, Mark |
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02 Nov 05 - 09:26 AM (#1595723) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,DB When I first encountered this thread I assumed that it would be about the outrageous discrimination that archbishops face in their daily lives - but obviously not. Perhaps I ought to start one - because it's really not on!! Mind you, what would I call it? |
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02 Nov 05 - 12:32 PM (#1595848) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Chief Chimp I'm with Chongo! You all seem to have missed the stereotyping from the movie "Madagascar". The talking chimp talks about going to Carneghie hall to see a famed singer and at his partners questioning ook? he responds "of course to fling poop at him!" When the two get caught outside the zoo by the NYPD the lead turns to the second chimp and says "If you have any poo, fling it now!" As if humans aren't the masters of that type of activity! Just look at how deep it is in Washington D.C. They act more like the place is an outhouse than a capitol of the country! |
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03 Nov 05 - 10:28 AM (#1596473) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp Damn right. It's a blatant case of the pot callin' the kettle black that we got here. - Chongo |
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03 Nov 05 - 03:28 PM (#1596667) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Chief Chimp It's just too bad that Kongs gone. If they want to stereotype us with that we could have sent him to lift the lid on the capitol building and fling some real poo into the procedings! |
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03 Nov 05 - 03:33 PM (#1596674) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Cluin That's been done already. Many times. |
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03 Nov 05 - 05:17 PM (#1596775) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Bill D It's best to be careful where you fling that poo...those folks in the capitol building have plenty to fling back, It's generated at an alarming rate by the basic processes they are engaged in! |
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03 Nov 05 - 09:21 PM (#1596926) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp Kong should've knocked down the whole damn Capitol building. THAT would've got their friggin' attention! Whaddya say about a bunch of sickos who invade a foreign place, drug and kidnap its leading citizen, drag him off to their country in chains, and display him as a public spectacle for the amusement of the jaded and overfed human masses? Scumbags, that's what! I can understand the rage that drove Kong to smash up that train and stomp on those people in New York. His death under the guns of the US Army Air Force was a tragedy that every red-blooded primate can only recall with deep sympathy and outrage. - Chongo |
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30 Jan 06 - 02:28 PM (#1657971) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Little Hawk And here's another problem that is just NOT going to go away... |
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30 Jan 06 - 02:37 PM (#1657979) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: number 6 No kidding .. political arguments, religeous arguments, philosphical arguments, hat arguments .... and then there's Chongo!!! sIx |
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30 Jan 06 - 02:43 PM (#1657984) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Little Hawk Yeah. Any minute now some prick will make the usual standard remark about "flinging poo", as if that was all a chimpanzee was capable of! Then some anonymous @sshole will refer to chimps as "monkeys", when they are not monkeys at all, they are apes. It's disgusting. This forum is absolutely awash in anti-primatism, and something should be done about it. Why doesn't Max put a stop to it? |
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30 Jan 06 - 03:21 PM (#1658004) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: number 6 chimps are goddamned monkeys, yeah, poop flinging monkeys they are ... calling them an ape is elevating them up next to the same level as a gorilla.... a gorilla is an ape. Chimps (such as Chongo) don't deserved to be called apes! sIx |
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30 Jan 06 - 03:45 PM (#1658016) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Chongo Chimp You stinking, anti-primatic piece of garbage, I will get you for that! You better stay out of the Chicago area. |
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30 Jan 06 - 03:47 PM (#1658018) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Bill D Ridiculous! |
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30 Jan 06 - 04:21 PM (#1658041) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Amos Anti-simianism is definitely a problem here at the Mudcat community. Martin Gibson has overtly sworn, for example, he would have nothing to do with chimps. That's mighty close the old "wouldn't want my sister to marry one" slur of the old Civil Rights movement, and I think it is about time we start a nationwide march on Washington -- One Million Simians Call on their Leader -- to pressure Bush to acknowedge his personal fraternal ties to these many concerned simians and friends of simians. The Republican Party has a long tradition of working with and befriending simians which he should be forced to acknowledge, which goes back to before Reagan was President. Shall all the sweat, blood tears and witholding deductions that went into Bedtime for Bonzo be for nought? No!! A thousand times, no!!! A |
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30 Jan 06 - 04:47 PM (#1658066) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: GUEST,Chia Chimp Oh, well said! Indeed, it's anti-simianism that is the scourge afflicting this society. "Anti-primatism" is a term that is out of date and misleading in this context. |
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30 Jan 06 - 05:44 PM (#1658106) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Little Hawk Here's a nice shot of Chongo in a relaxed moment. good lookin' ape! |
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30 Jan 06 - 06:50 PM (#1658178) Subject: RE: BS: Anti-Primatism on the rise From: Amos Oh, Little Hawk, you silly wabbit!! That's Bill SHatner! A |
