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happy? - May 31

31 May 05 - 04:08 PM (#1496831)
Subject: happy? - May 31
From: Abby Sale


          In nineteen hundred and thirty-four, the last daylight in May, 
          Jim Harris in the Ronald P. from St. Kyran's sailed away;
          He sailed away in search of bait, 'til he came to Paradise Sound,
          When to his great and sad mistake the Irene he ran down.
  
                  "Jim Harris," by Genevieve Lehr, Come and I Will Sing You A 
                  NEWFOUNDLAND SONGBOOK, U of Toronto Press, 1985

31 May 05 - 04:46 PM (#1496866)
Subject: RE: happy? - May 31
From: Liz the Squeak

How about remembering all those killed in the Battle of Jutland 31 May/1 June 1916?

I have a special place for this in my memory. I found last year that of the 16 names on the War Memorial in Abbotsbury, Dorset, I have family connections with a quarter of them, and all four were killed in that action, within 12 hours of each other:

Henry Charles Dunford, on the Battle Cruiser "Queen Mary"
George Mundy Corben (father in law to Henry's brother) on the Battle Cruiser "Invincible"
Frederick Dunford (cousin to Henry) on the Destroyer "Fortune" and his brother John Dunford, on the armoured cruiser "Black Prince"

JUTLAND -
(Les Sullivan)

Where are you goin' my Billy-O, (2x)
I'm joining a ship in Scapa Flow,
That's where I'm going my Nancy.
I'm joining "Queen Mary" Nancy-O,
Joining "Queen Mary" Nancy-O,
She's bristling with guns and ready to go,
To sail to glory with Jellicoe*,
But where is "Queen Mary"? Gone Now!
And where is the glory? Gone Now!
And six thousand sailors, Gone Now!
They have gone to the bottom at Jutland.

Where are you goin' my Rodney-O, (2x)
I'm joining a ship in Scapa Flow,
That's where I'm going my Nancy.
I'm joining "Invincible" Nancy-O,
Joining "Invincible" Nancy-O,
She's bristling with guns and ready to go,
To sail to glory with Jellicoe,
But where is "Invincible"? Gone Now!
And where is the glory? Gone Now!
And six thousand sailors, Gone Now!
They have gone to the bottom at Jutland.

Where are you goin' my Johnny-O, (2x)
I'm joining a ship in Scapa Flow,
That's where I'm going my Nancy.
I'm joining the "Black Prince" Nancy-O,
Joining the "Black Prince" Nancy-O,
She's bristling with guns and ready to go,
To sail to glory with Jellicoe,
But where is the "Black Prince"? Gone Now!
And where is the glory? Gone Now!
And six thousand sailors, Gone Now!
They have gone to the bottom at Jutland.

LTS

31 May 05 - 09:40 PM (#1497075)
Subject: RE: happy? - May 31
From: Abby Sale

LtS,

And why not?

Thank you for your contribution to the Happy File. The standard recompense is herewith dispatched.

03 Jun 05 - 02:09 PM (#1499374)
Subject: RE: happy? - May 31
From: GUEST,Allen

"Well, yes you were implying they were not part of the language. When I suggested 'fjord' you said it wasn't an English word. Then you said my other examples were exceptions because they were loan words.

They're either part of the language or they are not, the opinion of the professional lexicographers is that they are."

Exception is a nuetral term. Look it up. Loan words are exceptions, they're artificially introduced into a language, don't grow out of it. Any linguists here disagree?
Besides, of your other examples, not one was pronounced the same way.

04 Jun 05 - 01:58 AM (#1499916)
Subject: RE: happy? - May 31
From: Manitas_at_home

But borrowing words is a natural process not artificial at all.

04 Jun 05 - 03:27 AM (#1499939)
Subject: RE: happy? - May 31
From: Liz the Squeak

Practically every word is borrowed from somewhere else.....

LTS

04 Jun 05 - 12:26 PM (#1500143)
Subject: RE: happy? - May 31
From: GUEST,Allen

yes it is. I suggest you use the OED to look up artificial. A word introduced from an outside source is introduced artificialy.