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03 Jun 05 - 09:25 PM (#1499823) Subject: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: coldjam For a quartet of women. I already have "With her head tucked underneath her arm" and the Shape of things. Anybody got any ideas? |
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03 Jun 05 - 09:30 PM (#1499827) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: Peace Pierre and Marianne--mp3 sound clip here. |
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03 Jun 05 - 11:19 PM (#1499889) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: Phil Cooper It's rather blight on the scene, but look up "Chastity Belt." I think if you worked up a version of the ballad "The Devil and the Feathery Wife" that that would go over well in this context. |
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04 Jun 05 - 02:30 AM (#1499922) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: Anglo Well, there's always "My thing is my own." Check the DT database. |
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04 Jun 05 - 03:02 AM (#1499928) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: rich-joy Checkout The City Waites (UK, c.1960-70s)- probably only available on LP record still - who specialised in Street and Tavern Songs of those earlier times and whose "The Devil and the Farmer's Wife" to the tune of "Lilibulero" (for one example) would be very suitable ... Cheers! R-J |
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04 Jun 05 - 04:23 AM (#1499973) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: Dave Hanson What is a ' Ren ' ? eric |
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04 Jun 05 - 06:08 AM (#1499999) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: Big Al Whittle derek brimstone used to do one called sir quincy de Bass, which was in that vein |
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04 Jun 05 - 10:21 AM (#1500067) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: The Fooles Troupe You need to differentiate between genuine historical 'folk songs' and those written 'today' - often called 'filk' and of wide popularity in the SCA and 'Ren Faire' circles - as the link alluded to above seems to be. Horses for course, but don't assume that the latter are the former. |
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04 Jun 05 - 11:54 AM (#1500126) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: GUEST,leeneia here you go Tobacco, Tobacco, sing sweetely for Tobacco, Tobacco is like love, O love it for you see I wil prove it Love maketh leane the fatte mens tumor, so doth Tobacco, Love still dries uppe the wanton humor, so doth Tobacco, love makes men sayle from shore to shore, so doth Tobacco Tis fond love often makes men poor, so doth Tobacco Love makes men scorne al Coward feares, so doth Tobacco Love often sets men by the eares, so doth Tobacco. Tobacco, Tobacco, sing sweetely for Tobacco, Tobacco is like Love, O love it, For you see I have prowde it. In 1617 Dr. William Vaughn took exception: Tobacco that outlandish weede It spends the braine and spoiles the seede It dulls the spirite, it dims the sight It robs a woman of her right Tobias Hume, 1605 |
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04 Jun 05 - 12:34 PM (#1500152) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: Emma B The City Waites "The English Tradition - 400 years of Music and Song" is available on CD ARC Music EUCD 1616 I strongly reccomend "Lumps of Pudding" attributed S Pepys - very "ren" |
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04 Jun 05 - 01:00 PM (#1500168) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: Susan of DT From the Child ballads: #274 Our Goodman/Five Nights Drunk #275 Barring of the Door |
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04 Jun 05 - 01:26 PM (#1500182) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: GUEST,Allen Barring of the door also appears in the Decameron doesn't it, the story I mean. |
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05 Jun 05 - 04:52 AM (#1500396) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: GUEST,Liz the Squeak Try the Tudor 'round' "When Celia was learning on the spinnet to play" - I'm pretty sure it's in the DT here, but a really fantastic version of it was done by Steel Bunny (Hazel Absalome plus 2, also known as Capriole) on one of their cassettes. It's not strictly speaking the period you're after but I've found over the years that most people don't have a clue what is authentic and what is not.... I've done mediaeval banquets where the band played Greensleeves (Tudor), Wild Rover (SO not 12th Century) and dressed as Cavaliers! Besides, it sounds rude so it will go down a treat! LTS |
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05 Jun 05 - 05:01 AM (#1500401) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: Dave Hanson OK Coldjam WHAT IS A ' REN ? ' eric the confused |
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05 Jun 05 - 05:27 AM (#1500413) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: GUEST,Allen Renaissance. |
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05 Jun 05 - 06:23 AM (#1500421) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: Dave Hanson Thank you Allen, do people just make up new abbreviations as it suits them ? eric |
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05 Jun 05 - 06:25 AM (#1500422) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: GUEST,Allen Ren is a very common and accepted abb, but yeah. |
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05 Jun 05 - 10:44 AM (#1500491) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: mack/misophist "Adam Catched Eve By the Furbelow" |
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05 Jun 05 - 11:34 AM (#1500509) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: John P There's a couple of good rounds: When Cilia Was Learning on the Spinet to Play Tom Making a Manteau They both have innocent lyrics until you hear the second part sung against the first part. Then it gets bawdy. JP |
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05 Jun 05 - 01:55 PM (#1500593) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: Lanfranc "Tom making a manteau for a lass of pleasure he pulled out, he pulled out, he pulled out his long, his long and lawful measure Nine inches, nine inches" or something like that! Seem to recall that the arrangement was by Purcell, which accords it a somewhat spurious respectability. There was a Benny Hill song about Samuel Pepys diary, that may be in the DT. Definitely "cod" Renaissance, but moderately amusing. For a short song, how about "Lippes" (from Wait a Minim, or Minim bili, can't remember which) (Flowery lute-style intro) "I asked her what her lips were for While lying by the hedge She said, 'they are to stop my mouth From fraying at the edge!'" (Flowery lute-style outro) There are worse! Alan |
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05 Jun 05 - 10:28 PM (#1500864) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: Gypsy The Blacksmith, Soft at the Bottom, and A Wanton Trick! You can check out lyrics at: The Royal Chessman, they have alot of lyrics that Minstrels of Mayhem sing, among other ren acts. |
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06 Jun 05 - 06:53 AM (#1501004) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: pavane How about The Comical Wager from the Bodleian Library (Later versions are known as The Cluster of Nuts) "An account of a Laywers wife who laid a guinea with her husband's clerk that he did not Flourish her over seven times in an hour: How the Lusty Rogue performed six times effectually, but the seventh time happening to be a dry Bob, she pretended that he had not won the wager (Warger), whereupon the Clerk refur'd it to his Master, and his Master gave it in favour of him" |
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06 Jun 05 - 10:12 AM (#1501137) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: John P There's a song by Colin Muset from the 13th century we used to do called "Quant je voi yver retorner" or "When I See Winter Return". It's very useful because, depending on how you introduce it and play it, it can be a serious song or a funny song. The lyrics are about a wandering minstrel who sees winter coming on. When I see winter return, I must find a place to stay. If only I could find a generous lord who would charge me nothing and would feed me pork, beef, mutton, ducks, pheasants, venison, fat hens, capons, and good cheeses in baskets. Do it in medieval French and no one understands the lyrics and it's a serious piece of early music. Do it in English and play up the minstrel dreaming about food item after food item, and it can be very funny. John |
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15 Jun 05 - 03:00 AM (#1501306) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: GUEST,Allen Had a nagging feeling I was forgetting one, and it's the Friar in the Well. Dirty old friar tries to get a girl to sleep with him say not to worry if you go to Hell I can whistle you right out again. Somehow she tricks him into falling over into the well then calls him to whistle himself out. He demands his money back she says you've fouled my water! Songs and stories of bawdy friars, monks and priests were once very popular, especially in France |
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15 Jun 05 - 02:14 PM (#1501750) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: coldjam Well you guys are amazing! Thanks again! I have gotten some good leads. We can't really do anything outright "bawdy" cause one of the gals is pretty religious and I blush way too easily!(Probably should have mentioned that at the first, but then It really didn't occur to me how many bawdy songs would uh, pop-up. But then we also wouldn't have seen the treasure trove of songs you came up with!) |
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19 Jun 05 - 06:55 PM (#1504597) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: Naemanson Actually, Coldjam, bawdy songs were acceptable for much of human history. It's only been in recent generations that we humans became embarrassed by our own sexuality. |
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19 Jun 05 - 06:59 PM (#1504598) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: Le Scaramouche Hmm, not acceptable under all circumstances. |
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20 Jun 05 - 04:07 AM (#1504840) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: Le Scaramouche The Friar in the Well isn't really dirty. Rather mild compared to the French tales. |
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21 Jun 05 - 02:10 AM (#1505712) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: Fidjit Nobody really washed in those days. So A dirty Friar was common enough. Could do with the words of that one. |
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21 Jun 05 - 02:46 AM (#1505725) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: Mudlark Queen Elinor's Confession a good bet. Also, for a quartet of women... Whistle, Daughter, Whistle (only faintly bawdy) What Have I done with my Jolly Herring (no bawdiness) |
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21 Jun 05 - 03:09 AM (#1505734) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: Fidjit Try Bernard Cribbin's, folk song. Begins, "'twas on a Monday morning Oh". Ends up with, "And after that the weather started brightening". |
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21 Jun 05 - 03:38 AM (#1505743) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: Le Scaramouche Fidjit, if you weren't being tongue in cheek, what a myth! Anyway, here are the lyrics in the DT for the Friar in the Well and here are Martin Carthy's |
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28 Jun 05 - 11:55 PM (#1512188) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: coldjam Naemanson, not embarrassed about my own sexuality, just singing publicly about other's! I had forgotten about Queen Eleanor's Confession! Thanks! And thanks again to all. I'll keep 'em on file! |
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29 Jun 05 - 04:14 AM (#1512260) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: GUEST,Fidjit Thanks Le Scaramouche, much apreciated |
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29 Jun 05 - 11:00 AM (#1512468) Subject: Lyr Add: THE VICAR OF BRAY From: GUEST,Arkie This may not be quite old enough, but it has a great tune and could be fun if it did qualify. The Vicar of Bray In good King Charles's golden days, When Loyalty no harm meant; A Furious High-Church man I was, And so I gain'd Preferment. Unto my Flock I daily Preach'd, Kings are by God appointed, And Damn'd are those who dare resist, Or touch the Lord's Anointed. And this is law, I will maintain Unto my Dying Day, Sir. That whatsoever King may reign, I will be the Vicar of Bray, Sir! When Royal James possest the crown, And popery grew in fashion; The Penal Law I houted down, And read the Declaration: The Church of Rome I found would fit Full well my Constitution, And I had been a Jesuit, But for the Revolution. And this is Law, &c. When William our Deliverer came, To heal the Nation's Grievance, I turn'd the Cat in Pan again, And swore to him Allegiance: Old Principles I did revoke, Set conscience at a distance, Passive Obedience is a Joke, A Jest is non-resistance. And this is Law, &c. When Royal Ann became our Queen, Then Church of England's Glory, Another face of things was seen, And I became a Tory: Occasional Conformists base I Damn'd, and Moderation, And thought the Church in danger was, From such Prevarication. And this is Law, &c. When George in Pudding time came o'er, And Moderate Men looked big, Sir, My Principles I chang'd once more, And so became a Whig, Sir. And thus Preferment I procur'd, From our Faith's great Defender, And almost every day abjur'd The Pope, and the Pretender. And this is Law, &c. The Illustrious House of Hannover, And Protestant succession, To these I lustily will swear, Whilst they can keep possession: For in my Faith, and Loyalty, I never once will faulter, But George, my lawful king shall be, Except the Times shou'd alter. And this is Law, &c. |
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29 Jun 05 - 07:54 PM (#1512860) Subject: RE: Need a humorous Ren or Medieval song From: The Fooles Troupe Perhaps a bit late for the period, but another goodie is "the poor what gets the blame" |
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