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26 Jun 05 - 09:10 PM (#1510626) Subject: Folklore: Maeve - help needed from Irish friends From: Big Mick Hi folks. I just had a picnic with a wee lass whose name is Maeve. Her Grandmother, Kathryn Gavan O'Connor Kuhn, is looking for kids books about Maeve in order that she may learn about the Warrior Queen she is named after. Could any of you assist with titles, and authors on this subject? I am figuring there must be kids books on the subject somewhere but Google doesn't seem to be locating any. The books should be targetted towards kids under the age of 13. All the best, Mick |
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26 Jun 05 - 09:37 PM (#1510645) Subject: RE: Folklore: Maeve - help needed from Irish friends From: Malcolm Douglas The original may not make suitable reading for young children who aren't ready for adult material (I'm thinking of the sexual content; extreme violence doesn't seem to be considered a problem as a rule). Medb tends to feature as an important character in other people's stories rather than on her own, so most childrens' books based on the Ulster Cycle will probably feature her, though they may not give a very accurate picture. Lady Gregory's re-tellings of the Cuchullainn stories might be a start, though there are bound to be more recent (and easier to read) books that other people here will know about. Searching for Medb rather than Maeve will probably get you more useful results. |
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26 Jun 05 - 11:05 PM (#1510695) Subject: RE: Folklore: Maeve - help needed from Irish frien From: Sandy Mc Lean Other spellings from Gaelic: Mebh, Meabh, Meadhbh. |
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27 Jun 05 - 04:57 AM (#1510806) Subject: RE: Folklore: Maeve - help needed from Irish friends From: Noreen I go along with Malcolm on this- my Mum said she didn't realise until well after I was christened that Queen Maeve was 'no better than she should have been"...! Maeve was also a strong and beautiful woman- a positive role model, I think! Noreen Maeve |
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27 Jun 05 - 05:03 AM (#1510810) Subject: RE: Folklore: Maeve - help needed from Irish friends From: Micca Thomas Kinsellas "The Tain" is possibly a bit too.....But Wonderful stuff.. Medb addresses Fedlim the Prophetess as her army sets out to steal the Brown Bull " Fedlim, Prophetess, How seest thou the Host" Fedlim " I see it Crimson, I see it red Death and destruction fall on your army the Crazed one the Warped one dealing death and harsh wounds three spears in his hand death in his eye slaying all before him in a warp spasm" Lady Gregorys, " Cuchullain of Murthemne" may be a bit Florid of language, but not as good as Kinsella. The Trouble is that Medb is such an unmitigated BITCH !! that if you find a "cleaned up" story it is likely to be almost meaningless!!!! and not very interesting, especially since the whole premise of the Tain is started by the "war between the sheets" when Medb compares here possessions with Alill, her Husband (NOTE!! NOT the KING! but her Consort)and the only thing she doesnt and cannot match is his White Bull Finnabhair, this causes her such a fit of anger she sets out with her ENTIRE Army to Borrow (or steal, if it will not be lent) The Brown Bull of Cooley. On the other hand you could get the child a copy of the Horslips CD called "the Tain", it includes "Queen Medb's march" |
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27 Jun 05 - 05:12 AM (#1510817) Subject: RE: Folklore: Maeve - help needed from Irish friends From: Noreen Mick, you might be better searching for e.g. • The Tain - Cattle raid of Cooley •. Although I couldn't find a child-friendly version of the Táin via Google, I am sure there is such available in the shops in Ireland. And the Táin by Horslips (from 1973) is now available on CD. |
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27 Jun 05 - 05:18 AM (#1510820) Subject: RE: Folklore: Maeve - help needed from Irish friends From: Noreen Hi Micca! :0) It would appear that (some) men do not take kindly to a strong woman...! |
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27 Jun 05 - 05:28 AM (#1510826) Subject: RE: Folklore: Maeve - help needed from Irish friends From: GUEST,Barrie Roberts It might be that I have a remorselessly trivial mind, but the only fact that I can recall about Queen Maeve is that she won her crown in a contest against a number of other Princesses. When they had done all the usual contest stunts and were evenly matched, Maeve won the last round --- by peeing the deepest hole in the snow! How very different from the Coronation of own dear Queen. |
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27 Jun 05 - 05:30 AM (#1510828) Subject: RE: Folklore: Maeve - help needed from Irish friends From: GUEST Irish children's Lit. Here's a few to be getting on with. The recommended ages are at the end of each review. A good starting point for kids. |
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27 Jun 05 - 06:32 AM (#1510848) Subject: RE: Folklore: Maeve - help needed from Irish friends From: Micca I don't have a problem with Strong wimmen, but ,having recently re-read the Tain, I stand by what I said about Medb, there is strong, and there is Pig-headededly blind to all common sense.. and for what? it was a " Nyaaah Nyaaah Ive got more Bull than you" kind of Playground stuff and if the story os to be believed caused the deaths of many.. ( maybe Dubya is a descendent???) |
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27 Jun 05 - 07:20 AM (#1510871) Subject: RE: Folklore: Maeve - help needed from Irish friends From: alison last year when I was back in Ireland the "touristy" shops had several books aimed at kids. I'm almost sure one of them was about the cattle raid..... can't think of the names of of the authors but I'm sure some Irish mudcatters could pop down the local souvenir shop and find out. slainte alison |
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27 Jun 05 - 02:21 PM (#1511087) Subject: RE: Folklore: Maeve - help needed from Irish frien From: Sorcha Morgan Llywellan re wrote some of her books for kids....don't know if she did Red Branch that way or not. |