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Lyr Add: Dan Malone (correction)

28 Jun 05 - 06:58 PM (#1512039)
Subject: made up lyrycs
From: GUEST,johnsmith

Where the fuck do you guys get some of these lyrics from????
i.e.the song Dan Malone. one line reads "Now her grave lies UNIDENT outside Killarny" Unident? unifuckingdent? What the fuck does unident mean???It's not english thats for certain!!!It must be yank for havn't
got a fucking clue so make any shite up!!!The line is "now her grave lies on a hill outside Killarny" Also,in the same song,Kitty didn't come from me home,if she had done he'd know who the fuck she was,it would have been his fucking mother or sister or some other fucker he knew!!! She came from Mayo,you know,the county Mayo???
Jesus at least read em before you post em,instead of making a mockery out of em.


28 Jun 05 - 07:07 PM (#1512050)
Subject: RE: made up lyrycs
From: Sorcha

Oh, what a nice polite post.....thank you so very much!


28 Jun 05 - 07:13 PM (#1512055)
Subject: RE: made up lyrycs
From: George Papavgeris

Impolite as a bear with a toothache, but he's right...


28 Jun 05 - 07:48 PM (#1512076)
Subject: RE: made up lyrycs
From: s6k

someones not a happy camper!


28 Jun 05 - 08:16 PM (#1512089)
Subject: RE: made up lyrics
From: The Fooles Troupe

Mildly amusing profane post from someone who can't spell 'lyrics'...

Well, if we knew just WHAT song he was on about....

It may well be the result of a typo.


28 Jun 05 - 09:14 PM (#1512114)
Subject: RE: made up lyrycs
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Dan Malone: Lyrics posted in the DT, and at www.florilegium.org, have 'Now her grave lies unident. outside Killarny' in verse 3, line 4. No documentation.

Lyrics posted at www.feisanna.com, for the same line, have: 'Now her grave lies on a hillockside Kilarney,' (? hill outside Kilarney). This version, without citation of author or singer, has 'Kitty from Mayo' in the first line.

Cannot find any citation of publication or author, or that the lyrics are by Gemma Hasson (did she just sing it?).

If guest johnsmith wishes to help, he could provide the documentation for the song.

I believe that the tune is among those requested but never posted at Mudcat.


28 Jun 05 - 09:31 PM (#1512120)
Subject: RE: made up lyrycs
From: GUEST,khandu

Perhaps "unident" somehow meant "unidentified". maybe that was the way the transcriber was trying to say he didn't understand what the phrase was. Maybe.

k


28 Jun 05 - 09:46 PM (#1512134)
Subject: RE: made up lyrycs
From: Malcolm Douglas

The DT transcription, copied from that SCA site some eight years ago, is pretty poor; though criticism of it is probably most constructively made when sober and in full possession of ones wits. In those days all manner of misheard gibberish was added quite uncritically to the database. More careful and discerning these days, I think, but there's still an awful lot of junk that needs getting rid of if it can't be corrected.

Whoever wrote it (and whether Dan or Kitty was the original) it's obviously modern, and almost certainly set to the tune of By the Hush (Paddy's Lamentation); interestingly, that tune was found in Canada, not Ireland; although it seems to have started life as an American minstrel tune, The Happy Land of Canaan, an Irish antecedent isn't impossible; though I don't know of any evidence of one.


28 Jun 05 - 09:48 PM (#1512137)
Subject: RE: made up lyrycs
From: michaelr

Fucking Guest, fucking johnsmith -- here at the fucking Mudcat, hundreds of fucking people have fucking posted thousands of fucking lyrics, sometimes fucking copy/pasted from other fucking sites on the fucking internet.

If fucking mistakes creep in from time to fucking time, we fucking apologize. For fuck's sake.


28 Jun 05 - 10:08 PM (#1512149)
Subject: RE: made up lyrycs
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Unident'. is the way I usu. write the word. It fits the rhyme scheme too.
But that don't make no never-'; we still don't have a doc. vers.

(Sorry, Khandu, not poking fun, but c'dn't resist)

Not the same song, but it has the feel of "Paddy's Lamentation" as arr. from "The Irish Imigrant" (I'm Sitting on the Stile, Mary) by Paddy Maloney and Mary Black for "Long Journey Home."


28 Jun 05 - 11:28 PM (#1512178)
Subject: RE: made up lyrycs
From: Joe Offer

When I was a spy listening to phone calls in Berlin, we used "u/i" for "unidentified"; "B-val" (B-value) for stuff we were pretty sure of, "C-Val" for stuff we were not so sure of.
"Unident" works for me, but u/i is easier. I like the B-val, C-val stuff for classifying guesses. Transcribing folk songs by ear is often like listening to phone calls and trying to make out what people are saying.
-Joe Offer-


29 Jun 05 - 02:52 AM (#1512224)
Subject: RE: made up lyrycs
From: Liz the Squeak

When I learned abbreviations for taking minutes, rather than shorthand, I was taught to use unident for an unidentified word that I'd misheard or if I was typing up someone elses notes.

johnsmith - it is English, it doesn't include the 'F word' and that long key in the middle of the bottom row of your keyboard is the space bar. It inserts a space between letters and words when you press it. Swap your over use of the 'F word' for your under use of the space bar and your postings might merit a better reception.

LTS


29 Jun 05 - 03:28 AM (#1512240)
Subject: RE: made up lyrycs
From: GUEST,Matt_R

"someones not a happy camper!"

hahaha one of my favorite catch-phrases!


29 Jun 05 - 05:38 AM (#1512285)
Subject: RE: made up lyrycs
From: GUEST,johnsmith

Isn't malcolm a clever shite ! ! !


29 Jun 05 - 05:45 AM (#1512287)
Subject: RE: made up lyrycs
From: Le Scaramouche

Isn't johnsmith on a first name basis with John Barleycorn ! ! !


29 Jun 05 - 09:56 AM (#1512453)
Subject: RE: made up lyrycs
From: GUEST,JennyO

(Pedant alert) As far as I can see, nobody here on this thread has spelt "Killarney" right yet - except for me ;-)

As for "unident", apart from the obvious idea that whoever wrote it couldn't work out what the word was, maybe her grave was unmarked - unidentified? No?

Or, maybe she only had one tooth.


29 Jun 05 - 12:24 PM (#1512531)
Subject: RE: made up lyrycs
From: Big Al Whittle

would it help if we hold the mayo?
I think unident is okay. well done whoever came up with it.

And Guest John Smith (same initials as George Joseph Smith) in future we're not at home to Mr Angry....!
so go f--k yourself.


29 Jun 05 - 01:07 PM (#1512568)
Subject: RE: made up lyrycs
From: Les from Hull

Or course if people didn't spend all that extra time typing expletivites they could spend more time doing something more useful.


29 Jun 05 - 01:33 PM (#1512590)
Subject: RE: made up lyrycs - Dan Malone
From: Skipjack K8

Are expletivites otherwise known as Tourettes sufferers, Les?


29 Jun 05 - 03:44 PM (#1512697)
Subject: RE: made up lyrycs - Dan Malone
From: GUEST,leeneia

johnsmith, I think you should print out your first post, take it to a doctor, and ask "Why am I suffused by such rage?" Do this before somebody gets hurt.


29 Jun 05 - 04:27 PM (#1512726)
Subject: RE: made up lyrycs - Dan Malone
From: Q (Frank Staplin)

Apparently not the Dan Malone, outlaw, who was killed by officers in Bandera County, Texas, 1866.


29 Jun 05 - 08:09 PM (#1512868)
Subject: RE: made up lyrycs - Dan Malone
From: The Fooles Troupe

Has The Breast returned?


29 Jun 05 - 08:12 PM (#1512871)
Subject: RE: made up lyrycs - Dan Malone
From: The Fooles Troupe

Ooops! Typo!


29 Jun 05 - 11:20 PM (#1512980)
Subject: RE: made up lyrycs - Dan Malone
From: JennyO

I'll believe that, Robin. Thousands wouldn't :-)

You planning a visit to the Temple of the Golden Globes?


30 Jun 05 - 02:14 AM (#1513043)
Subject: RE: made up lyrycs - Dan Malone
From: The Fooles Troupe

Do I have an invite?