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05 Jul 05 - 09:32 AM (#1515296) Subject: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: GUEST,a very concerned mudcatter The time has come IMHO for Mudcat to take responsibility for filtering some of the content on its boards. For a long time now there has been a problem with Guest posters disrupting genuine debate but even that was tollerable to a point. Now we are getting spam posts for poker rooms etc. in huge type. The solution is a painful shift I'm afraid but one that needs to be taken. Posts have to be moderated and only available to registered users with confirmed email addresses. I don't think I am alone in this sentiment. It is further testimony that I am having to post this message anonymously because of the ferocity of some of the flaming that comes from Guest 'trolls'. Can we get an official respoonse from the webmasters at Mudcat on their position in relation to this problem. With sincerest intentions (regretfully)Anon |
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05 Jul 05 - 09:47 AM (#1515302) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: GUEST Being unable to post as a guest will make the Secret Santa a problem. |
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05 Jul 05 - 09:49 AM (#1515303) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: GUEST being unable to post as a guest will also make it extremely difficult to answer questions posed by anyone other then a registered user - in fact - it will make it impossible. |
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05 Jul 05 - 09:52 AM (#1515304) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: GUEST,sandra in sydney walking thru the backdoor It would also would make it difficult for folks enquiring about songs or tunes etc. I guess non-members could post a message to Joe or a clone, who could post the request, then wait for any clarification or comments etc etc (wot an increase to their workload) If this list becomes a members only list, how do we post if/when Mudcat is down? sandra |
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05 Jul 05 - 09:54 AM (#1515306) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: GUEST,JennyO Joe and the clones are aware of the problem and are deleting the posts as fast as they can. I expect the spammers will give up soon. I think it would be a shame to not let guests post just because of this. There are a lot of people looking for song lyrics, and anyway I think guests add a bit of interest - even the ones who like arguing. Then there is the Secret Santa thing. Bottom line anyway is that this is how Max wants it. |
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05 Jul 05 - 10:04 AM (#1515310) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: GUEST,jacqui.c I first lurked on this site as a guest, before joining. If I'd had to join I might not have bothered with the site straight off. IMO the best way to deal with this problem is simply to ignore it. |
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05 Jul 05 - 10:16 AM (#1515317) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: wysiwyg We've had periodic Spam hits since forever, and they are usually caught before most of us see them. Don't get your panties in a wad-- this is not a big deal. ~S~ |
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05 Jul 05 - 10:21 AM (#1515321) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: Dave Bryant Don't click on any of the links in the "Poker" spam postings. I may be wrong but I have a sneaking suspicion that user's PCs might be getting contaminated and generating postings on threads when they post. I refreshed an old thread at home this morning and a spam posting appeared immediately on it - I then "sanitised" my PC and it didn't happen again. |
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05 Jul 05 - 10:33 AM (#1515336) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: mack/misophist I've only seen one, so far. They seem to be doing a good job of editing them out. |
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05 Jul 05 - 10:43 AM (#1515352) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: Don(Wyziwyg)T IMHO cutting out guests would be a very bad move. Part of the charm of this forum is that the DT is universally available, and I would not want to see that change. Given that we have coped with the most obnoxious trolls attacking us personally, it would be a pity if we were unable simply to ignore these spammers. Don T. |
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05 Jul 05 - 10:57 AM (#1515372) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: Lizzie Cornish Gosh...just been into the Sidmouth Attenders thread and there they are!! In HUGE writing bold as brass.....they're even more scary than 'The Guests'!!! As if poor Max didn't have enough to cope with! Lizzie :0) |
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05 Jul 05 - 11:01 AM (#1515374) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: Uncle_DaveO GUEST of 9:49 a.m. said: being unable to post as a guest will also make it extremely difficult to answer questions posed by anyone other then a registered user - in fact - it will make it impossible. I fail to see how being unable to post as a guest would make any problems with answering a request. Dave Oesterreich |
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05 Jul 05 - 11:03 AM (#1515375) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: GUEST,MMario Dave - they will be unable to MAKE the request - which makes it pretty well impossible to answer them |
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05 Jul 05 - 11:04 AM (#1515377) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: GUEST,Uncle DaveO That's not what that GUEST said. Dave Oesterreich |
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05 Jul 05 - 11:12 AM (#1515389) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: MaineDog I agree that spam posts of the automated type, or that are clearly commercial, and unrelated to anything the goes on in Mudcat, should be prevented or deleted. Another of my usual on-line haunts has been all but destroyed by spam posts, and this should not happen here. Is there no way to detect these things on the way in, and eliminate them, perhaps some sort of sophisticated firewall? MD |
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05 Jul 05 - 11:16 AM (#1515395) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: Rapparee Why is this above the salt? If it's Tech, say so. |
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05 Jul 05 - 08:57 PM (#1515628) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: Bee-dubya-ell Why does everyone always complain about Spam, but never about Cheez-Whiz? |
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05 Jul 05 - 09:14 PM (#1515644) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: artbrooks Spam is ok, especially fried and served with hot mustard. |
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05 Jul 05 - 09:17 PM (#1515645) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: Clinton Hammond "Being unable to post as a guest will make the Secret Santa a problem." I've run or participated in several SS's on other MBs where posting as Guests is not allowed, and we've never had any problmes... "difficult to answer questions posed by anyone other then a registered user" Most decent message boards these days make one register in order to acces them at all... and they require a legitimate, ISP provided internet addy as well... Mudcat could do LOTS worse to follow suit... " Bottom line anyway is that this is how Max wants it." There you are correct... though concerned Mudcatters might prefer it if he changed it... it can't hurt to suggest... |
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05 Jul 05 - 10:24 PM (#1515682) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: The Fooles Troupe I quite like the Barbeque flavour Spam. |
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05 Jul 05 - 10:47 PM (#1515697) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: LilyFestre Spam...mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm good with mac and cheese...some stewed tomatoes....even better over a camp fire or for breakfast..... damn....I just gave away my culinary secrets |
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05 Jul 05 - 11:40 PM (#1515730) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: Ferrara I think we would lose a lot by restricting access to registered users. You never know who will drop in as a guest to provide some specific bit of expertise on a topic they know very well -- sometimes it's quite wonderful to see who has been lurking out there and is willing to contribute from time to time. But every silver lining has its cloud. IMO it's not too bad a problem; just don't click on any spam links, PM Joe or a clone about the threads where spam appears, they will delete it, and it seems to me the problem is solved. The Spam can be reduced to just being irritating, not particularly dangerous or important, just "down in the noise" as the engineers used to say (maybe they still do). Rita F |
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06 Jul 05 - 12:23 AM (#1515754) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: Peace What would happen if song info requests were put in a separate room? People who enjoy responding to such requests would be able to access the room from 'inside' the 'cat. That would allow the legitimate requests of GUESTS to be attended to while preventing unnamed people from posting. Many forums require an address from those who register. It then allows everyone who's got something to say to be trackable and somewhat accountable for what they have to say. |
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06 Jul 05 - 01:57 AM (#1515818) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: Joe Offer I talked with Jeff about the Spam attack. He's working on some new ideas for dealing with Spam, but I think the tools he's developed alread did a pretty good job. I had to figure out the pattern of posting, and then select the tools that would locate the Spam messages fastest. The messages had to be deleted one at a time, and my rural Internet connection has been slow lately - so that part was a bit of a drag. Still, we cleaned it up fairly quickly, I think. -Joe Offer- |
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06 Jul 05 - 02:09 AM (#1515821) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: rangeroger I use cheese whiz on my spam sandwiches. rr |
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06 Jul 05 - 02:57 AM (#1515843) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: MBSLynne I don't think restricting to members is a good idea either and I agree with most of what the others say on the subject. And I can't stand Spam...it tastes disgusting. Love Lynne |
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06 Jul 05 - 03:07 AM (#1515850) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: Dave Bryant Congratulations Joe on a job well done. The fact that you answered my e-mail at about 8am BST yesterday morning seems to indicate that you were up half of the night doing it. |
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06 Jul 05 - 04:25 AM (#1515885) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: GUEST,Mrs Miggins Spam spam spam spam, Spam spam spam spam. whats on the menu ? SPAM |
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06 Jul 05 - 04:45 AM (#1515898) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: Liz the Squeak I had a spam fritter for my dinner last Friday.. it was delicious.... LTS |
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06 Jul 05 - 06:54 AM (#1515944) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: Dave Bryant Well trying dipping some of these Poker Game posings in batter and frying them Liz - I reckon even you would find them indigestible. |
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06 Jul 05 - 08:07 AM (#1516015) Subject: RE: STOP THE SPAM POSTS From: Big Mick I used one of the tools we have at our disposal and got about 10 or 12 as they were happening. This is nothing new. It has always been the policy of the Mudcat not to allow spam attacks. Once it was cigarettes, and there have been several others. All the best, Mick |