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13 Aug 05 - 06:42 AM (#1541613) Subject: BS: Some Papers on Consiousness From: Pied Piper Below are some papers on various aspects of consiousness I've found interesting. 1 2 3 4 5 Enjoy PP |
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13 Aug 05 - 06:57 AM (#1541624) Subject: RE: BS: Some Papers on Consiousness From: Clinton Hammond Too bad these people couldn't find real jobs.... |
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13 Aug 05 - 09:39 AM (#1541723) Subject: RE: BS: Some Papers on Consiousness From: GUEST,mack/misophist Was it Sherlock Holmes who railed against theorizing in advance of data? A few comments from Wolfgang would be interesting. He may not care to get involved, though. |
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13 Aug 05 - 11:58 AM (#1541810) Subject: RE: BS: Some Papers on Consiousness From: Amos P: Many thanks. A lot of interesting viewpoints. Ignore CH -- he's a scurrilous ragamuffin who would never choose to read such a paper, would never strive to write one, has no concept of the time and effort involved and in fact if tasked, would be unable to produce one. He is one of them folksingers you hear about. A |
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13 Aug 05 - 01:22 PM (#1541840) Subject: RE: BS: Some Papers on Consiousness From: Clinton Hammond No... I'm someone with better things to do with my time besides sitting around playing with myself and staring into my belly-button... I have read, studied and produced such... that's how I know it's all a load of crap Actually, that's unfair to crap |
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13 Aug 05 - 01:39 PM (#1541851) Subject: RE: BS: Some Papers on Consiousness From: McGrath of Harlow Staring into your belly button would really require a neck like a swan...And they don't have belly buttons. .......................... I'm a little teapot short and stout. Time up and pour me out. I think that's about as eloquent a summary of current understandinmg of consciousness you can find. |
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13 Aug 05 - 01:42 PM (#1541855) Subject: RE: BS: Some Papers on Consiousness From: pdq We blue collar working class types have a word to describe those articles: gobbledegook. We know what is really important and don't need a PHD to prove it. Here are the three rules of life in the real world: 1. Respect the rights of others. 99% of people will do the same in return. Life can be good. 2. If you find some one who does not respect the rights of others (=bully), find a time when no witnesses are around and beat the living crap out of him. 3. Women get a free pass on everything. Something to do with hormones, I think. |
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13 Aug 05 - 02:02 PM (#1541866) Subject: RE: BS: Some Papers on Consiousness From: Amos All of which has nothing to do with the questions PP raises in his references. It is jolly fine to say "I don't need to think about consciousness -- I am too busy BEING conscious and doing stuff". You can leave all understanding up to higher powers, too, and content yourself with being an operating piece on the board. But striving to see more into the somewhat mysterious fact of consciousness is legitimate and possibly very rewarding, assuming one does not just grind into analysis paralysis or get bemused into various mystic or authoritarian webs. I doubt any of the grumblers here would like to offer a model of how consciousness happens to occur. And what its relationship to living forms actually is. I suggest that while there is no obligation on anyone to have any curiousity, being uncivil about the curiousity of others is a sort of crime. A |
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13 Aug 05 - 02:08 PM (#1541872) Subject: RE: BS: Some Papers on Consiousness From: Clinton Hammond "being uncivil about the curiousity of others is a sort of crime" No... it's calling a wanker a wanker... |
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13 Aug 05 - 02:17 PM (#1541876) Subject: RE: BS: Some Papers on Consiousness From: Amos Locked in hard, and y'ain't budging fer nuffin, huh, CH? Good thing yer right, or you might be uncomfortable. A |
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13 Aug 05 - 02:59 PM (#1541893) Subject: RE: BS: Some Papers on Consiousness From: Clinton Hammond How do you know I'm not both eh? :-P |
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13 Aug 05 - 03:14 PM (#1541903) Subject: RE: BS: Some Papers on Consiousness From: Amos Oh, you may be, old friend. I do think you may be in for a surprise. Think of me when it happens! :D A |