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06 Sep 05 - 11:58 AM (#1557579) Subject: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth This is VERY important. Somebody sends not normal and illegal signals from satellites. The satellites are hacked! People over the whole world blink with their eyes more then normal. You can study this on TV (Bloomberg, BBC, CNN or other TV-channels). This is because somebody sends not normal and illegal signals from satellites. Maybe it is less visible, but men have less soft movements then normal. This is also because of illegal and dangerous signals from satellites into the brains of human beings. The latter may have increased sickness and deaths. If so, it should be possible to check it out statistically. Five civil persons on 24 years have control over at least one satelite. All five of them are probably from Barcelona in Spain. One of them are the leader of the group. All five of them were seen at the Spanish Police headquarter in Madrid June 2005. They were observed by several policemen among them the spanish policechief. The policechief received an information report about this satellitecrime, but the crime still goes on. http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showthread.php?s=32f53800beb9f5267b99d0a74d4ee87f&threadid=55775 |
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06 Sep 05 - 12:39 PM (#1557633) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: jeffp Where's my aluminium foil helmet? |
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06 Sep 05 - 12:41 PM (#1557639) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D further down on that page.. "FACT: 100% of people who eat vegetables die" never a dull moment on the internet. *grin* |
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06 Sep 05 - 12:43 PM (#1557644) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: John MacKenzie But what about the vegetables that eat people?? G.. |
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06 Sep 05 - 12:49 PM (#1557649) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D well...gosh....I dunno about that. I'd better ponder it. |
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06 Sep 05 - 12:52 PM (#1557653) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Ebbie "People over the whole world blink with their eyes more then normal." Guest/cansouth That's true. However, I blink less with my feet than I used to. |
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06 Sep 05 - 12:59 PM (#1557664) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D "People over the whole world blink with their eyes more then normal." that's because they are using code that YOU can't understand. |
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06 Sep 05 - 01:16 PM (#1557678) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: frogprince How stewpid; everbudie nos that these stuff, an the drawts an hurcanes an all thet stuff, is caused by the efects of the space shutle lanchings. |
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06 Sep 05 - 01:22 PM (#1557683) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Don Firth This, of course, is worrisome. But I'm far more worried over the fact that our government has been taken over by surgically altered Ferengi. Don Firth (Captain of The Good Ship Lollipop) |
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06 Sep 05 - 02:10 PM (#1557759) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Peace The verb transitivity in the title confused me. |
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06 Sep 05 - 02:22 PM (#1557785) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D yup...shoulda said "Satellites done been hacked" |
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06 Sep 05 - 02:25 PM (#1557788) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Rapparee The voices in my head have told me this lots of times. But they are our friends and are going to make me King of the Universe and, if I'm good, Queen of the May. |
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06 Sep 05 - 02:30 PM (#1557793) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Peace That Queen of the May thing requires a certain procedure with which you might not agree. |
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06 Sep 05 - 02:33 PM (#1557797) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Amos Yeah; inside scoop is that for once in your life, you ain't passing the physical... A |
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06 Sep 05 - 02:34 PM (#1557800) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: John MacKenzie Ah Bruce that's the unkindest cut of all! Giok |
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06 Sep 05 - 03:20 PM (#1557847) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Don(Wyziwyg)T If someone stuck me on the sharp end of a rocket, and fired me out to circle endlessly in freezing cold and darkness, I'D BE F*****G HACKED! Don T. |
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06 Sep 05 - 03:39 PM (#1557855) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Ebbie Some people think that's what HELL is, Don T. :) |
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06 Sep 05 - 05:18 PM (#1557939) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,Art Thieme Alternative Medicine saves the day: Eat a cat turd pizza and it will all go away! Art |
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06 Sep 05 - 07:24 PM (#1558029) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: The Fooles Troupe Hell is being trapped inside the Mudcat BS section. |
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06 Sep 05 - 10:31 PM (#1558150) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: JennyO With nothing to eat but cat turd pizza and turkey turd beer to wash it down. Nothing to do but work, Nothing to eat but food, Nothing to wear but clothes To keep one from going nude. Nothing to breathe but air, Quick as a flash 't is gone; Nowhere to fall but off, Nowhere to stand but on. |
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07 Sep 05 - 02:28 AM (#1558242) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Liz the Squeak We have copious supplies of cat turds if you want to start the pizza business...... Just let me finish with this tinfoil hat and the coathangers first though.... LTS |
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07 Sep 05 - 07:12 AM (#1558346) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: The Fooles Troupe Will you serve Turd Coffee too? |
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07 Sep 05 - 08:40 AM (#1558400) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth It is easy to see on television that people blink more with their eyes. Even you who have answered so far, can see it. |
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07 Sep 05 - 08:43 AM (#1558403) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: DMcG Actually, I've have been struck fairly recently by a number of people on television who rarely seem to blink at all. Is that related? |
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07 Sep 05 - 08:52 AM (#1558408) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth It is very easy to see the increase in blinking on those who present news on television. It may have something to do with that they are concentrated. |
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07 Sep 05 - 09:46 AM (#1558454) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Liz the Squeak Plus the fact that TV studios are hot and usually fairly dry. Blinking helps moisten the eyeballs so they don't start to itch. Horribly pragmatic.... but there we go. LTS |
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07 Sep 05 - 09:57 AM (#1558462) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth They blink with their eyes more then normal. More then they used to do. Because of the signals from the satellite hacker. Also people who are not on television blink more then normal, but it is easier to see it on television. That is the reason for the focus on television. |
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07 Sep 05 - 10:02 AM (#1558464) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Liz the Squeak So what's normal? LTS |
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07 Sep 05 - 10:23 AM (#1558486) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: jeffp I would imagine that particulate pollution would be a more likely explanation for increased blinking rates, if indeed rates have increased, which has been stated, but not demonstrated. (Does that win the run-on sentence award for this week?) |
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07 Sep 05 - 10:26 AM (#1558491) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Amos Blinking under bright lights is to be expected. A |
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07 Sep 05 - 11:29 AM (#1558533) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: John J Life is fatal. Blinking brilliant. JJ |
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07 Sep 05 - 12:16 PM (#1558569) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Ebbie Just what else besides our eyes can we blink with, cansouth? :) |
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07 Sep 05 - 12:17 PM (#1558570) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: JennyO Today, a nine year old child told me that statistics have shown that women blink more than men. Don't know why she chose today to tell me that. And she hadn't seen this thread, either. Then she had a competition with her brother to see who could go the longest without blinking. He won - 26 seconds. All of which doesn't prove a blinking thing. |
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07 Sep 05 - 03:46 PM (#1558704) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth If the hacker wants, he can send signals that give people pains instead of only blinking. "I would imagine that particulate pollution would be a more likely explanation for increased blinking rates, if indeed rates have increased, which has been stated, but not demonstrated." The main reason is not pollution, but signals from the satellite hacker. It has been demonstrated many days and weeks on television, that people blink more then normal with their eyes. You have been told already, it is easy to see on television. |
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07 Sep 05 - 11:30 PM (#1558745) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D no, cansouth....you offer NO proof. You only make silly claims. There are many reasons for excess blinking, and you have no idea HOW a 'hacker' could cause this, or cause pains. If you are serious, you are also seriously deluded. Quit believing all this garbage and learn to think. There are thousands of satellites, and many people in Barcelona, and even more gullible fools........... |
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08 Sep 05 - 06:14 AM (#1558881) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: The Fooles Troupe "It may have something to do with that they are concentrated." I read it as 'constipated'... |
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08 Sep 05 - 07:31 AM (#1558922) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Grab Do you have statistics for this? A graph of number of blinks per minute for each newsreader over the last two years should do it. I'll believe *anything*, provided someone will show me evidence that I can't easily disprove. You may also be interested to know that allergies increase in the summer. So even if someone is blinking more in the summer than the winter, it doesn't prove that someone's got a death ray pointed at them. Next question: *how* do you think the satellites do this? Radio waves? Light? Unless you can back this up, I'm going with Occam's Razor and saying you're as mad as a man having sex with a box of cheese biscuits - fucking crackers... Graham. |
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08 Sep 05 - 07:51 AM (#1558934) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: The Fooles Troupe Obviously that was Mr Graham Cracker talking... ;-) |
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09 Sep 05 - 08:07 AM (#1559682) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Grab Oh godddd... :-) |
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09 Sep 05 - 09:49 AM (#1559753) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: frogprince Part of me wonders if cansouth is pulling something out of his butt to see the responses - just sort of a non-malevolent troll. But I doubt it; he sounds too much like genuine mentally ill people I've encountered, and I'm afraid he is seriously in need of professional help. |
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09 Sep 05 - 10:33 AM (#1559785) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: beardedbruce Sorry. I just checked my two satellites, and neither has been hacked. |
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09 Sep 05 - 10:34 AM (#1559787) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: EBarnacle Also remember that the evidence indicates that 100% of the people who breathe, die. |
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09 Sep 05 - 10:35 AM (#1559789) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: EBarnacle ...except for Elvis |
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09 Sep 05 - 02:52 PM (#1559970) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth Identification of the hacker who controls satellites: - He, and four friends of him, visited policechief (comisaria) Benito in Madrid in June 2005. - One of the hackers friends sat close to the desk in the police office. - Policechief Benito changed clothes, from sivil clothes to uniform, before he received a report of the satellite misuse.. - Policechief Benito was not willing to present himself with his name. One policewoman was present when the policechief did not want to say his name. - One of the policemen in the building used a walkman. - One of the policemen said Benito/Bonito and laughed. You can get this verified at the Spanish police headquarter. |
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09 Sep 05 - 07:11 PM (#1560138) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: frogprince further proof: one of the policemen was wearing blue socks, the other one black socks; both of them had combed their hair befor leaving home that morning. |
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20 Sep 05 - 05:42 PM (#1567136) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth It was probably the satellite hacker who made Bush do this: http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,3-1781796,00.html |
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20 Sep 05 - 06:44 PM (#1567170) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D was it the satellite hacker who makes Bush do this? (I think he's checking for tinfoil hats) |
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21 Sep 05 - 05:29 PM (#1567947) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Nigel Parsons More people are blinking with their eyes, more than normal? I blame it on the increased use of contact lenses |
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21 Sep 05 - 05:54 PM (#1567965) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Ebbie Hey, you guys- redundacy is running rampant here, over and over: It is with our eyes that we blink. Pedantry compels me to remind you that whether we blink more frequently than we used to is the point- the ayes don't have it. |
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22 Sep 05 - 12:18 AM (#1568176) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST you're indulging your compulsive order again... |
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22 Sep 05 - 12:46 AM (#1568187) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Ebbie Achtung! *G* |
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22 Sep 05 - 06:54 PM (#1568730) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,Fullerton It's true. You doubting Thomas type people. Sightings of aliens in the area of WIGAN are now certain. Aliens have been spotted by the pie shop near Trencherfield Mill. Some claim the dance is known as bacca pipes. Morris dancers are spreading their alien dance cult ........ like they do. PHOTOGRAPHIC EVIDENCE OF ALIEN INVASION IN WIGAN PARTICULARLY. Click and believe ye of little gullibility. |
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22 Sep 05 - 07:49 PM (#1568782) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Ebbie Dang, Fullerton. You're right. No human would dance like that. |
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23 Sep 05 - 01:21 AM (#1569000) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: The Fooles Troupe How to dance like Micheal Flattelly. 1) go into kitchen, 2) remove shoes and socks, 3) select several sharp knives from drawer, 4) randomly release knives towards floor... |
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23 Sep 05 - 08:27 AM (#1569114) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,Cansouth More about identification of the hacker and his four friends: Nr. 1: The hacker. His hair is a bit long. He uses dungaree trousers. He is quite slim. He is the leader of the group. He is charismatic. He is very intelligent. He likes to lie. One of his hobbies is to tell lies to his friends. One way he lies is to exaggerate things. He thinks his four friends like his lies. He is very psychological knowingly and aware. Nr. 2: He is blond. Looks quite normal. Nr. 3: He is blond. He trains and has muscles. Nr. 4: Black hair. Looks normal. Nr. 5: Black hair. A little bit overweighty. They were observed together at the policechief Benitos headquarter of Madrids police in June 2005. They are probably from Spain, but maybe not from Barcelona. They could be from anywhere in Spain. They are probably among 24 years old all of them. The hacker is considered to be extremely more intelligent then the four other. |
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23 Sep 05 - 09:37 AM (#1569155) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: The Fooles Troupe (Puts fingers in ears) La la la, la la la, la la la... |
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23 Sep 05 - 10:32 AM (#1569177) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,Fullerton La la la, la la la, la la la... (Singing dodgy harmony with Foolestroupe, Fullerton wearing an Arran sweater, clutching a tankard, dreams of a reunion of the Bachelors.) |
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23 Sep 05 - 02:44 PM (#1569406) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: frogprince When Cansouth linked to the "gotta go potty" article, I thought he was in effect admitting that he started this all as a weird idea of a joke. Now he is back to reminding me a little too much of a live one that turned up in my apartment building in Chicago. The guy would walk out in the hall at 3am and shout "I'm going to kill somebody, and you won't be able to do anthing about it, because I have the power of God in me, and you don't mess with God." I was all set to look for another apartment when some of his family happened to stop by for a visit and got him committed. Fortunately, Cansouth really hasn't been threatening anyone yet, so far as we know. Just hope he gets help before things get too much deeper. |
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23 Sep 05 - 04:14 PM (#1569465) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth http://www.xatrix.org/article.php?s=1993 Quote: "Critical US satellites could be hacked Posted by: Nikola Strahija on October 12, 2002 Commercial satellites used by the US military, secret service and Federal Aviation Authority could be hijacked or disabled by computer hackers, a new government report has warned. " It is very easy to see the increased eye blinking on people on television. I am surprised so many of you joke with it, instead of enroll and observe it. It is VERY EASY to see. Also the less soft movements on people (especially men) are very easy to observe and register. If you want to, or have to, you can compare old record/tapes of television or films vs. todays television and new films. |
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30 Sep 05 - 03:41 PM (#1572914) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth Maybe you should be more open minded. It is very easy to see the blinking increase on CNN, BBC, Bloomberg and TV5 Europe. The staccato movements are dangerous: 1. People act different in the traffic when they drive cars. 2. The staccato movements probably increase unvoluntary abortions. 3. Children will find their parents behave different with staccato movements. 4. The staccato movements probably increase heart attacks. |
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30 Sep 05 - 09:02 PM (#1573057) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: The Fooles Troupe I too now have soft movements since I eat more fibre. |
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06 Oct 05 - 02:05 PM (#1577275) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth The staccato movements probably have disturbed and destroyed music records the last months. Films and movies with famous actors have also been disturbed and destroyed by the staccato movements and the blinking increase. |
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06 Oct 05 - 02:32 PM (#1577295) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Metchosin AHA! Staccato Movements!..... Finally a plausible explanation for for the preying mantis physiogamy of Natasha Stillwell. Guest cansouth, are you sure you haven't been watching too much Max Headroom lately? |
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06 Oct 05 - 02:37 PM (#1577298) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D " increased eye blinking" pollution in the air make MY eyes blink! unfounded generalizations make my brain twitch! |
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06 Oct 05 - 02:41 PM (#1577301) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: jeffp Wasn't the 3rd movement of Czolgozh's 23 1/2 Symphony in Hb minor known as the Staccato Movement? |
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18 Oct 05 - 07:35 PM (#1585750) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth It is very easy to see the blinking increase on the newsreporter Mark Crumpton on Bloomberg News television. He blinks much too much. But it is also easy to see the blinking increase on a lot of other persons. I am surprised you dont see the blinking increase. |
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18 Oct 05 - 08:06 PM (#1585764) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: The Fooles Troupe Blinkin' 'ell! |
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19 Oct 05 - 12:25 PM (#1586292) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D It comes from WAY out there and causes this soon it will spread and be everywhere You want proof? |
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19 Oct 05 - 12:31 PM (#1586300) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D I suspect that a blink chip has been embedded in many brains by now. |
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19 Oct 05 - 12:35 PM (#1586308) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D resistance is futile |
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19 Oct 05 - 12:38 PM (#1586314) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: frogprince Only in circumcized males, Bill; they insert the chip thru the little nick in the weewee. |
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19 Oct 05 - 01:50 PM (#1586356) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Don Firth I saw a flying saucer this morning!Well, actually, it wasn't really flying, I dropped it on the kitchen floor. Bounced pretty good. Fortunately, it didn't break.Bill D., you're post at 19 Oct 05 - 12:31 PM—that's weirder than hell! Don Firth |
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19 Oct 05 - 06:22 PM (#1586555) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D You looked!...and now it has you, Don! You will be receiving signals from Spain forever! |
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19 Oct 05 - 06:38 PM (#1586565) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Ebbie Oh dear. Guess it's got me too. What I don't understand is that when I look directly at a square that one doesn't blink. Whyzzat? |
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19 Oct 05 - 06:46 PM (#1586572) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Don Firth Everything I look at keeps shifting colors! I'm blinking a lot! I am DOOMED!! Don Firth |
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20 Oct 05 - 09:02 AM (#1586897) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: The Fooles Troupe There was an old song I remember called "Flying Saucers" Flyin' saucers, cups and saucers, are breaking up my happy wedded life! (Puts fingers in ears) Laaa, lala! Laaaa la lala! La lalalalalalalalala! Laaa, lala! Laaaa la lala! La lalalalalalalalala! |
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21 Oct 05 - 08:50 AM (#1587719) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Wilfried Schaum Blinking more than normal leeds to an awful suspicion: We don't see a person blinking in a sequence of time (past, present future), but a person blinking and not blinking at the same time! - so ALL time is ONE time - the Tralfamadorians are upon us! Don, man your good ship Lollipop and take me on! I'm a qualified Windows Space Cadet with some citations. Where can I enlist? |
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21 Oct 05 - 09:04 AM (#1587730) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: The Fooles Troupe Laaa, lala! Laaaa la lala! La lalalalalalalalala! Laaa, lala! Laaaa la lala! La lalalalalalalalala! |
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21 Oct 05 - 01:53 PM (#1587870) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Ebbie My case may be incurable. I am able to wink in consecutive fashion with both eyes and I'm not sure that I have always had this ability. It may be in obedient response to some kind of code. Is anyone else afflicted with this anomoly? |
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21 Oct 05 - 07:55 PM (#1588041) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: The Fooles Troupe Laaa, lala! Laaaa la lala! La lalalalalalalalala! Laaa, lala! Laaaa la lala! La lalalalalalalalala! |
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22 Oct 05 - 06:29 PM (#1588629) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth http://www.physorg.com/news5431.html July 26, 2005 "Most people blink around 15 times a minute and a blink lasts on average 100-150 milliseconds, which means that overall we spend at least 9 days per year blinking. " |
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22 Oct 05 - 09:57 PM (#1588744) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Ebbie So, does an increase in blinking mean that we now spend 10 days a year blinking? |
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22 Oct 05 - 11:30 PM (#1588782) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Metchosin hmmm......... an increase in the rate of blinking usually indicates that the subject is feeling increased stress or that they are under pressure.....could be that their stress levels have risen to 10 days blinking a year, because they believe their satellites have been hacked. |
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23 Oct 05 - 01:34 AM (#1588815) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Ebbie Well, Metch, I don't know about you, but now and again I just about know that my satellites are hacked. Makes my eyes blur and then I have to blink real fast. Sometimes I even use eye drops. |
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23 Oct 05 - 02:43 AM (#1588829) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: The Fooles Troupe Lalalala.. |
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24 Oct 05 - 02:49 AM (#1589449) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Mark Cohen Ebbie, do you mean both eyes, or each eye? Please let me know by PM urgently. I may be able to help, but only if you give me the right answer. This is critical. Aloha, Mark |
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24 Oct 05 - 11:18 AM (#1589711) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bunnahabhain I'm blinking alot more since I first met this thread. The 20 hours a day on the 'net researching conspiricy theories has nothing to do with it.... |
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11 Nov 05 - 07:45 PM (#1602725) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,Cansouth The identification of the hacker is probably wrong. It seems to be only two persons, instead of five. 1: The hacker: Slim, with carismatic eyes, kind of natural "silver hair", the hair is a little bit long, he uses dungaree trousers, 180 cm (?) tall. 2. His friend: Blond, normal looking, 175 cm(?)., not slim, not fat. Probably he was at the airport in Berlin in Germany in June 2005. Both of these two were at the police station of Policia de Madrid San Blas in Madrid in Spain in June 2005. |
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11 Nov 05 - 07:47 PM (#1602728) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D I am SO relieved by these regular reports about whatever it is... |
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11 Nov 05 - 07:49 PM (#1602729) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: frogprince The hacker has an eleven inch d**k; his friend has four and a half inches. |
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12 Nov 05 - 03:44 AM (#1602907) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: The Fooles Troupe C'mon BillD join in Lalalalalala! |
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12 Nov 05 - 09:19 AM (#1603017) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: JennyO he uses dungaree trousers What does he use them for? |
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12 Nov 05 - 01:53 PM (#1603138) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Ebbie Sorry- I didn't see the help you offered, Dr. Mark. The answer is 'both'. I think. And overnight, I indulge in one VERY LONG blink. With both eyes. I'm afraid Robin has it right and the only sane response is Laaa, lala! Laaaa la lala! La lalalalalalalalala! Laaa, lala! Laaaa la lala! La lalalalalalalalala! |
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12 Nov 05 - 06:08 PM (#1603261) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: The Fooles Troupe Remember to put your fingers in your ears... .... and go tinga linga loo! |
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27 Nov 05 - 05:30 PM (#1614950) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth The satellite hacker seems to have started with a new signal: People use their hands to touch their own heads, noses, chins, mouths and faces more then normal . It has probably lasted at least since saturday 21. November 2005. It is easy to observe also this on television. The blinking increase and staccato movements may have started monday 6. June 2005. So now there should be at least three visible symptoms of the illegal satellite signals: 1. The increased eye-blinking. 2. The staccato movements. 3. People touch their own heads/noses/chins//mouths/faces more then normal. |
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27 Nov 05 - 05:33 PM (#1614953) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Metchosin and when they start scratching their groin area....oh boy! |
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27 Nov 05 - 06:09 PM (#1614981) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Ebbie Is that with their hands, Metch? |
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27 Nov 05 - 07:28 PM (#1615044) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D all this sounds like tic-talk to me..... (hey cansouth...are you warning others, or just Mudcatters?) |
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27 Nov 05 - 07:38 PM (#1615058) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Ebbie tic talk, tic talk- but it stopped short never to go again... |
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27 Nov 05 - 07:58 PM (#1615081) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth "hey cansouth...are you warning others" Yes. But I also try to make people observe the results of the illegal satellite signals, so they can report it to the police, to stop the hacker. The signals are dangerous. |
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27 Nov 05 - 08:00 PM (#1615085) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth On BBC World there is a commercial for BBC`s program "Hardtalk". I am not sure, but I think one, of around four persons in the comercial, is the rockstar Alice Cooper. He uses his right hand and touches his cheek on his left side. That is the kind of new movements the satellite hacker has created. Of course it could be a contingency/occasional, but that is the kind of movements that are new. |
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28 Nov 05 - 04:45 AM (#1615274) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth Right now on CNN, the judge in the trial against Saddam Hussein, makes those hand movements which are increased in frequency by the illegal satellite signals. It is though not very often those movements happen. Maybe they appear in an interval of 2-3 minutes each time. |
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28 Nov 05 - 07:54 AM (#1615369) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: The Fooles Troupe You, know it's true! I've been making lots of involuntary hand movements touching myself more often that usual... but I can fix that just by stopping taking the little blue tablets... |
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28 Nov 05 - 08:20 AM (#1615388) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: JennyO *sings* I don't want anybody else When I think about you I touch myself I don't want anybody else Oh no, oh no, oh no I want you I don't want anybody else And when I think about you I touch myself Ooh, oooh, oooooh, aaaaaah |
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28 Nov 05 - 02:53 PM (#1615671) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth Here are two more quite visible examples of the new hand movements probably caused by the illegal satellite signals: 1. The people who sit beside and behind Saddam Hussein in the trial in Bagdad, move their hands quite a lot up to touch their faces. I saw it on CNN earlier today. It was very visible. 2. On Eurosport they have a program called Eurogoals. In the game between Zaragoza and Sevilla on the 27.11.2005, a goalkeeper is excluded. When he is about to leave the field he uses his hand on his nose. That looked like a typical movement like those which are a result of the illegal satellite signals. It does not have to be in this single case, but at least it looked like it was. |
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28 Nov 05 - 04:51 PM (#1615777) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Metchosin How can you tell the difference between someone who picks their nose because they want to and someone who picks their nose because of hacked sattellites? I really want to know so that next time I can blame my behavior on aliens. |
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28 Nov 05 - 10:38 PM (#1616035) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D cansouth ain't kidding he IS everywhere! ☺ |
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28 Nov 05 - 10:42 PM (#1616037) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D indeed! Others are being warned! |
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28 Nov 05 - 10:45 PM (#1616039) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D well...since 'the hacker' hangs out with a " Blond, normal looking" friend, "175 cm(?)., not slim, not fat" he should be easy to spot! |
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28 Nov 05 - 10:49 PM (#1616040) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Don Firth Well, maybe cansouth has something there. If I were stuck up in space, orbiting the earth possibly forever without even a lousy sack lunch, alternately cooking in direct sunlight and freezing my butt off when in the earth's shadow, getting pinged incessantly with micro-meteorites, and all that time with no flight pay, I think I'd be a little hacked myself! Don Firth |
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28 Nov 05 - 11:00 PM (#1616043) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D on a German site, cansouth, you said "Because of this satellite crime, all satellites will be taken down from space, and no new satellites will ever be sent up again." Please don't tell me that! My GoogleEarth and GPS need those satellites! Can't we just send the hacker UP on a big satellite (with his 'friend', of course, for company? Give him some fake equipment and some potato chips and beer and not allow him to orbit over Spain? Wouldn't that work? |
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29 Nov 05 - 12:05 AM (#1616071) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Metchosin Oh dear, does this mean when that hackers are making me pick my nose, not aliens. |
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29 Nov 05 - 06:16 AM (#1616194) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: The Fooles Troupe "Oooh! don't touch me there!" |
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29 Nov 05 - 07:07 AM (#1616223) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,inflexion i read in a paper last year that tests had been done on the effectiveness of psychic influence, that the easiest results were to make people twitch without realising it. signals could be transmitted through people without them realising it. have you ever been in the focus of public attention? from a central point then it is easy to determine the subtle effects we have on each others sub-conscious, perhaps you need to be a bit psychic i don't know, but maybe the increase in blinking is due to the increase in viewers causing a rise in the frequency of electro-magnetic feedback, ie a kind of reverse butterfly effect. |
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29 Nov 05 - 07:20 AM (#1616229) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,inflexion i just looked at news 24 and the news reader's head followed me around the room. we each get a standard static broadcast template which is merged with the random mpeg distbribution of each unit, giving a reading of all movements relative to each unit. Big Brother is fully operational. |
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29 Nov 05 - 08:03 AM (#1616257) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bunnahabhain I wonder if Cansouth has heard of Memes.... If not, tell them they don't exist. |
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29 Nov 05 - 08:30 AM (#1616271) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: The Fooles Troupe CanSouth Inc CanSouth's immediate and long-term goal is to establish a network of representatives across the United States specializing in specific accounts and markets. While it is Cansouth's primary business to provide the critical link to Canadian manufacturers seeking entry to the American marketplace, the company is aggressively seeking growth opportunities globally. In 2003, CanSouth began directly importing products from Europe, Asia, South America, and pacific rim nations. CanSouth's unique ability to interpret U.S. market demand and source specific customer products has made it one of America's fastest growing manufacturers rep organizations. ~~~~~~~~ Well, maybe not ... But perhaps he is a friend of Terribus Canada Southern Petroleum Ltd. 250, 706 - 7th Avenue SW. Calgary, Alberta |
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29 Nov 05 - 09:28 AM (#1616309) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D "...a standard static broadcast template which is merged with the random mpeg distbribution of each unit, giving a reading of all movements relative to each unit." powered, no doubt, by a Super-Gravity, Dehydrating Cosmic Ossifier with a Positronic Snarkle! The secret, inflexion, is to view the news in a mirror, while facing away from the set, so they get 'the readings of all your movements' in reverse, thus confusing the tracking modules and reflexively confounding the polarity of their basic "static broadcast template". I'm sure that if we get millions of us to interfere with them this way, we can overload their electro-magnetic feedback with a double-reverse butterfly effect and have them blinking too fast to sustain the required energy levels for continued psychic influence. |
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29 Nov 05 - 10:16 AM (#1616327) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth Here are some examples of the hand movements which have increased in frequency because of illegal satellite signals: Example 1: http://www.dw-world.de/image/0,,1795116_1,00.jpg Example 2: http://gfx.dagbladet.no/pub/artikkel/4/45/450/450643/saddam1.jpg The hand movements of the person to the left and the person to the right. |
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29 Nov 05 - 12:45 PM (#1616458) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: John MacKenzie If I picked my nose, I'd pick a smaller one! G ☺ |
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29 Nov 05 - 01:03 PM (#1616472) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Ebbie You can't win. Here is a bit of advice. Blink MORE! |
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29 Nov 05 - 01:52 PM (#1616506) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: George Papavgeris Lalalala lalala lalalala lalalalala lal lalallllaalalalalalalalaaaaaaah Lallallalalayawally llallala lalala |
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29 Nov 05 - 01:57 PM (#1616510) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Ebbie Don't panic, el Greko. I'm promised that help is on the way- although whether or not we'll recognize it is problematical. How can you tell the good guys from the bad guys? lallalllaaallllllalaaaaa |
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29 Nov 05 - 04:24 PM (#1616635) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D You can pick your nose, and you can pick your friends, but you can't wipe your friends off on the saddlehorn. |
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30 Nov 05 - 04:33 AM (#1617000) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: The Fooles Troupe You know, this stuff is posted all over the internet, and only here, are you guys taking the piss out of him! Lalalalalala! |
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30 Nov 05 - 09:37 AM (#1617182) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth 1. On the APEC meeting on Saturday 19. of November 2005 in Busan in South-Corea, CNN send pictures of the state leaders wearing traditional clothes. On that video which CNN send, there were many hand movements caused by the illegal satellite signals. It was easy to observe them. http://edition.cnn.com/2005/BUSINESS/11/19/apec.bush.korea.ap/index.html 2. In the German soccer game 19. of November 2005 between Borussia Dortmund and Hertha Berlin, it was also possible to observe some of these hand movements caused by the illegal satellite signals. |
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30 Nov 05 - 09:52 AM (#1617197) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: JennyO Ah yes, but were the hand movements illegal? I'd watch those right hand on left cheek ones if I were you! Lalalalalalalalalala laalalalalalalaaa |
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30 Nov 05 - 11:18 AM (#1617269) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D ".. only here, are you guys taking the piss out of him!" oh, no! On several sites they are even more at it than we are! (and I think that if Public Gesticulation were becoming more common, the Fundamentalists would be up in arms!) |
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30 Nov 05 - 08:43 PM (#1617668) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: The Fooles Troupe I gesticulate in the direction of your maidenly aunt! On the Effectiveness of Aluminium Foil Helmets |
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30 Nov 05 - 09:11 PM (#1617686) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D BOTH my maidenly aunts gesticulate right back at you! |
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05 Dec 05 - 10:20 AM (#1620408) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,Cansouth Here is a link to more photos of the hand movements which have increased in frequency: Link |
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05 Dec 05 - 06:00 PM (#1620692) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bunnahabhain Two questions cansouth, If this satellite technology can be used to make people touch their faces more often, without any fancy reciever equivment, why can't it be used to stop them smoking, or send all their money to the hacker, or something? Are there any laws governing what can be broadcast from satellites? I know there are national laws governing what you can broadcast to a country, but are there international ones? It doesn't seem to be promoting anything like terrorism, drugs, pornography etc, so is it actually illegal? |
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05 Dec 05 - 06:32 PM (#1620717) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D " If you compare these events to other events, you should be able to see the difference in frequency of these hand movements." YOU are making the claim, cansouth...it is up to YOU to show what is 'normal' and prove that 1)people are doing it MORE than normal and 2) that nothing else is causing it, like itching from pollution and 3) HOW a satellite can cause this. Until then, warnings are useless! |
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06 Dec 05 - 01:49 PM (#1621329) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth 1. Now the trial against Saddam Hussein has started again, and CNN sends a lot from it. Saddam Hussein and the other accused make a lot of the hand movements which the illegal satellite signals increase. Also the judge make some. It seems to be people who are physical relaxed who react most visibly on the signals which increase hand movements. 2. Also politicians who only listen to others speeches in parliaments, seem to react quite visibly on the signals which increase hand movements. 3. And people who are concentrated, like news presenters, react more visibly on the signals which increase the eye blinking. |
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07 Dec 05 - 09:02 PM (#1622354) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth More photo examples: http://us.news1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20051128/i/ra2425485797.jpg http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/41097000/jpg/_41097566_cchair203.jpg http://i.a.cnn.net/cnn/2005/WORLD/meast/12/06/saddam.hussein.trial/story.saddam1.tues.ap.jpg |
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07 Dec 05 - 09:10 PM (#1622361) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D all the photos in the world prove NOTHING....you have NOT shown that 'movements' you point to are excessive! (I just scratched MY head...it itched!) |
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07 Dec 05 - 09:51 PM (#1622387) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: frogprince Bill, we know and appreciate your inclination to challenge illogical thinking. But there's just no point in opening the door and hollering in this case; there's really no one home. |
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08 Dec 05 - 12:37 AM (#1622442) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: The Fooles Troupe C'mon Bill Lalalalalalalalalala! |
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14 Dec 05 - 12:15 AM (#1626943) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth Two more photos with hand movements which are typical results of the illegal satellite signals: The judge in the Saddam Hussein trial: Judge Norwegian minister Kristin Halvorsen: Norwegian minister |
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14 Dec 05 - 08:26 AM (#1627089) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Don(Wyziwyg)T The lights may be on, but the top storey is empty. Don T. |
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14 Dec 05 - 09:01 AM (#1627117) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: The Fooles Troupe AAAAAAAAAGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! Run away! Run Away! Lalalalalalalala! |
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14 Dec 05 - 09:31 AM (#1627137) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bunnahabhain Cansouth, you didn't answer my questions. Assuming these signals exist, why aren't they being used to make people do something beneficial to either the hacker, or to a larger group of people, ie a country, religion or the whole world? Are these signals illegal, ie are there laws banning them? please answer. |
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14 Dec 05 - 09:43 AM (#1627141) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: The Fooles Troupe He can't mate - he doesn't know the answer to that! He just is compelled to keep on telling us this stuff. |
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14 Dec 05 - 11:31 AM (#1627215) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D ummm...la...lala....(I think I'm getting the hang of it)...lalalala.... |
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14 Dec 05 - 11:58 AM (#1627230) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,BazT Cansouth said: "Most people blink around 15 times a minute and a blink lasts on average 100-150 milliseconds, which means that overall we spend at least 9 days per year blinking. " Now if people only spend 9 days of the year blinking, then maybe these satellite transmissions are a GOOD thing! I myself like to blink every day of the year, so they certainly have worked on me. This is a great thread. I can think of a few unusual hand movements inspired by it. |
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14 Dec 05 - 07:04 PM (#1627545) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: The Fooles Troupe Bill D remember the old song "Put your fingers in your ears and go tinga linga loo!" |
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27 Dec 05 - 07:47 AM (#1635333) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth I am not a technical expert, but I think it is like this: A. The person which has hacked satellites, probably uses private equipment to reach the satellites directly. Then the companies, which are technical responsible for the satellites, do not observe the hacking. B. Normal satellite signals are so large that they do not get into the brains of human beings. But the hacker sends very fine small signals which enter inside peoples brains. These signals then hit nerve systems or functions systems in peoples brains. Then the hacker can make human beings behave different than normal. C. Thin metal protection will probably not help. Normally the brain cranium stops at least large parts of satellite signals. The illegal satellite signals are so fine (high-resolution) that they enter through the cranium and metal. When hospitals do brain scanning, signals enter through the brain cranium. Articles about brain scanning: http://www.pbs.org/wnet/brain/scanning/ http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4715327.stm D. If you observe the increase in the mentioned hand movements, you can report it to: Interpol http://www.interpol.net/ The Swedish government http://www.regeringen.se/ The Norwegian government http://www.odin.no/ The German government http://www.bundesregierung.de/en The Spanish government http://www.la-moncloa.es/default.htm The Swiss government http://www.admin.ch/ch/index.en.html |
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27 Dec 05 - 08:26 AM (#1635348) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Fullerton Ebbie, your right. Alice Cooper - The John McCririck of the internet. In this link McCririck can clearly be seen making signs - WHAT IS HE SAYING????? Cansouth - can you translate? I think IT"S A BETTING SCAM!!!! Famous international world leaders are the head of a world wide gambling syndicate- they display the odds via TV screens while being interviewed about wars, trade, finance. A scratch of the nose obviously means "Half a monkey on the grey nag in the 3:30 at Bangor" I think this explains everything in this thread. Sorted!! |
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27 Dec 05 - 03:40 PM (#1635553) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,clogger Hey I think Cansouth may be onto something here! OBVIOUSLY This is why we are all reading this CRUD! |
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27 Dec 05 - 06:44 PM (#1635659) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D my brain cranium is getting tired...Oh, wait...maybe it's because my fingers are too far in my ears! Can Interpol help? |
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30 Dec 05 - 11:10 PM (#1637923) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: frogprince I woke up this morning to find someone bouncing on top of me; she hasn't done that lately. Must be those satellite signals. Keep up the good work, fellers! |
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31 Dec 05 - 05:37 PM (#1638337) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,Dave Don't have a go at cansouth - the idiotic atrocities really being enacted in our own names are far more outrageous than his satellite theories. Face-touching is often to do with social embarassment or the crossing of boundaries. For example, the Sevilla goalkeeper probably felt he'd let his team-mates down, and also that he was symbolically moving to another zone by being sent-off. While he was still on the pitch he felt socially confused by being neither one thing nor another - a player, but one who was excluded from the game. Try & get some professional councelling on the fears that your theories have caused you, cansouth. |
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03 Jan 06 - 12:34 AM (#1640168) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth Here is a link to a website where information about the satellite hacking is collected: http://www.geocities.com/hackedsatellites/ |
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07 Jan 06 - 05:30 PM (#1643638) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,Cansouth It was probably the satellite hacker who made president George W. Bush write this note the 14. of September 2005: Timesonline Aftenposten Note that it happened after 6. of June 2005 when the illegal satellite beams may have started. The note President Bush wrote about visiting the bathroom, was written the 14. of September 2005, a few days after 11. september. He wrote it in United Nations during a Security Council meeting in New York. In the same organisation where Colin Powell argued for going to war against Iraq. I think maybe the hacker chose that council meeting to make an anniversary memorial of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, wars which were started with the 11. september 2001 terror as one of the official reasons. Killtown Did Flight 77 really crash into the Pentagon? Was the WTC 7 pulled? Was Bush complicit with the 9/11 attacks? |
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07 Jan 06 - 06:05 PM (#1643662) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Ebbie Cansouth, if I were to tell you that coincidental with the first plane plowing into the first tower I had just sat down at my computer, would that alarm you? How odd is that! Consider that I haven't even ever seen the towers in real life- and then tell me that it isn't significant! Stop to think that there are a million events happening simultaneously- and many of them will have connected oddities. That's the chaotic nature of life. If believing all these 'conspiracies' makes you happy, far be it from me to suggest that you give it up. However, if you are in a constant state of alarm and unease, please get help. You seem to be a gentle soul; please get help. Ebbie/Elva Bontrager |
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08 Jan 06 - 12:54 PM (#1644193) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D first you place the dart, then you draw the bullseye around it. |
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08 Jan 06 - 09:57 PM (#1644616) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D Satellites are listed |
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25 Jan 06 - 09:34 AM (#1655413) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: GUEST,cansouth The satellite hacker uses satellites to record brain waves, and also to send waves into peoples brains. Here are two articles about recording brainwaves: Link BBC 17 November, 2002 "Scientists have developed a sensor that can record brainwaves without the need for electrodes to be inserted into the brain or even placed on the scalp. " Link MS NBC Dec. 6, 2004 "Brain waves are the very weak electrical signals given off by the firing of millions of nerve cells in the brain. They can be measured by wires in a cap placed on the outside of the head." Here is a discussion forum post about the subject. I dont know how serious meant this is, but it is interesting reading, anyway: Link Talkaboutscience Apr 20, 2005 "The Pentagon has admitted that the U.S. intelligence agencies called the N.S.A. [ National Security Agency ], C.S.S [ Central Security Service ], D.I.A. [ Defense Intelligence Agency ], D.A.R.P.A. [ Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency ], C.I.A. [ Central Intelligence Agency ], the D.H.S. [ Department of Homeland Security ], and the F.B.I. [ Federal Bureau of Investigation ] Cointelpro or Counter intelligence program unit, has the technology to pick up the private thoughts given by individuals in the vibrations produced by the brains electrical impulses, and that these thoughts can be broadcast via satellites and any other form of technology which uses electromagnetic transfer, i.e. television, radio, the internet, and the telephone. The Pentagon calls this mind reading technology SYNTHETHIC TELEPATHY, although there is nothing paranormal about it. " |
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25 Jan 06 - 10:53 AM (#1655477) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Bill D ....and that "Talkaboutscience" link gets this years award for the most convoluted mish-mash of conspiracy theories mixed with religious babbling I can imagine!...no, sorry....I didn't see the Tri-lateral commission there, but no doubt I just didn't follow enough links! arrrrrggghhhh!!!!!! |
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27 Jan 06 - 12:38 PM (#1656557) Subject: RE: BS: Satellites are hacked From: Wolfgang I did like the we've got all the answers line in the last link. The surest sign it should not be taken serious. Wolfgang |
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