09 Nov 05 - 04:15 PM (#1600904) Subject: Fw: Mick Brooks From: steve_harris From: Jeremy Tozer [mailto:jeremy@tozerconsulting.com] Sent: 09 November 2005 16:46 To ceilidh-goers and folk festival regulars, Sue Robson has asked me to put this message out as she does not want to have to keep telling people the same sad news one by one. You may have heard by now that Mick Brookes went into a Hospice today. He was with Sue for part of the recent half term week and felt unwell during that period. I understand from Sue that the inevitable may well be quick and that in the meantime he doesn't want any visitors. Sue has had a lot of good wishes already for which she thanks people. Poor Mick. He'll be missed. |
09 Nov 05 - 05:06 PM (#1600939) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: MBSLynne Oh no! He seemed so much better and so full of energy the last time I saw him! I don't know what to say.... Love Lynne |
09 Nov 05 - 06:01 PM (#1600971) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: Mr Red I have been amazed at his resolve and energy since the operation, but he lived for his music and calling so I guess it motivated him. I have to say the last time I saw him call at a Banbury ceilidh, not a month since, it was not punctuated by his usual laugh. But we enjoyed the dances so it must have given him pleasure. |
10 Nov 05 - 02:11 AM (#1601197) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: GUEST,Ralph Sad news indeed. Many happy memories of sessions in the Radway, and other places. Like Lynne above, I'm lost for words too. Ralph |
10 Nov 05 - 02:41 AM (#1601208) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: Herga Kitty I'm very sorry to hear this - best wishes from me too. Kitty Vernon |
10 Nov 05 - 02:53 AM (#1601215) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: fiddler There are no words for this, Mick is part of the scene and always will be for those that know him. Those that know me will realise the rarity of this remark, I'm lost for words! Andy |
10 Nov 05 - 04:48 AM (#1601256) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: GUEST,Gadaffi Best wishes from me too. If I owe Mick anything, it's relearning the mandolin again. I used to swipe his at the Radway and struggle through 'The Rights of Man'. Must try harder! |
10 Nov 05 - 04:49 AM (#1601257) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: GUEST,Helen Akitt I too saw him at Banbury and thought he was looking so much better. So this is quite a shock. It just goes to show that you can never tell with these things. Anyway, our thoughts are very much with him. Helen |
10 Nov 05 - 08:00 AM (#1601321) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: Cats at Work We are so sorry to hear this about Mick. He is such a lovely, warm hearted person and always has been an integral part of Festivals. We wish him all the best. |
10 Nov 05 - 08:31 AM (#1601345) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: MBSLynne I've just heard he has died. Anyone got any more info? The 'other bar' is going to be full of good company...I hope someone gets me a pint in for when I arrive. But I shall lift a glass to Mick here first. Love Lynne |
10 Nov 05 - 01:55 PM (#1601595) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: GUEST,Peter My enduring memory is somebody at the National saying to me "Where's Brooksie? Oh! its all right I can hear him" just as that familiar laugh filled the bar. |
10 Nov 05 - 02:05 PM (#1601601) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: MBSLynne So sorry....the rumour I reported earlier is incorrect. The person who told me misread a message. Love Lynne |
10 Nov 05 - 02:13 PM (#1601606) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: GUEST,Nickp cookieless We'd known he'd been very ill for some time but he always seemed to keep going. If anyone sees him, pass on our best wishes, Nick & Claire |
10 Nov 05 - 06:00 PM (#1601746) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: fiddler I don't know if I am pleased or not about ur rumours lynne, I would never wish the old bugger weeks of pain and misery but the alternative is too dreadful. I will keep everything possible crossed. |
10 Nov 05 - 06:19 PM (#1601756) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: GUEST,Ralph Fiddler. My thoughts exactly. Why can I not type anything that doesn't sound "trite" Good Man. Good Friend. Rubbish fiddler...(Joking!) Could go down the line of Lighting Candles, but, he'd probably say..Nah..mines a pint. We must all await the next news. with great sadness. With Best Wishes. Ralph Jordan |
10 Nov 05 - 06:22 PM (#1601758) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: GUEST,Ralph Blimey, that last post was rubbish. I don't know what else to say. Forgive me. R |
11 Nov 05 - 02:36 AM (#1602085) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: MBSLynne Trite or not Ralph, you're just expressing the feelings of a lot of us. Perhaps we're all feeling trite! Love Lynne |
11 Nov 05 - 01:41 PM (#1602489) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: GUEST,Ralph Jordan Hello all. Have just read on the fRoots board that Mick has passed away. Very few details there, but, I'm sure Ian A wouldn't have posted it without verifying the story. A very sad day. Will miss the old bugger. (As Fiddler described him) RIP Mick Kind regards Ralph |
11 Nov 05 - 02:57 PM (#1602533) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: GUEST,Chris Hall Yes, We had a message from Sue this morning, saying that Mick died yesterday, 10th November A sad day indeed. Regards Chris |
11 Nov 05 - 03:11 PM (#1602538) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: Mr Red guess he made his final call. |
11 Nov 05 - 03:18 PM (#1602546) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: Leadfingers Another good man gone !! Known Mick a long time - A Sad Loss to the scene ! |
12 Nov 05 - 11:14 AM (#1603060) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: treewind Very sad news, even though we've been expecting it for a while. The Radway at Sidmouth and many other music sessions are not going to be the same without him, and the ceilidh scene will miss him too. I can still hear that laugh. What a great way to be remembered! Anahata |
12 Nov 05 - 01:01 PM (#1603116) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: fiddler Devastated, a life lived - not wasted in any way = one that will be with us all forevwer - yes that laugh. Warm thoughts is all I can offer to all those who need them. Andy |
12 Nov 05 - 01:14 PM (#1603123) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: ConcertinaChap One thing I'm glad of is that I have recordings of many sessions where that laugh rang out. Anne and I are really sad. Not good news. Chris |
12 Nov 05 - 06:48 PM (#1603294) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: GUEST,Cats - cookieless My enduring memeory of Mick will be of the time he called two Ceilidhs at the same time at Sidmouth, one in the Anchor Gardens, one on the Ham. Deciding he could do both, he borrowed a bicycle to get between the two. He set one dance going in one venue then cycled to the other to round of that one and start another there. At one point he was gasping for a drink and stopped off in the Dove for a quick drink... only he got talking, as you do, and completely forgot the time. Some of us danced Stoke Golding Country Dance for nearly 15 minutes before we dropped to the floor..... You'll be missed Mick. Kathy & Jon |
13 Nov 05 - 06:23 AM (#1603636) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: mrsmick Thank you for saying all thoase lovely things about Mick. He'd be cringing in the corner with embarrasment, but you're all right. He's probably walked straight into a session, 'kicked his way in' as he would say, without waiting till the end of a tune - he never did, why should he start now? And guess what - he's discovered he can drink again and is making up for lost time! Next year is going to be so hard.... In the meantime I will let you know arrangements for funeral, flowers, donations etc when the family have decided. Sue |
13 Nov 05 - 06:35 AM (#1603638) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: MC Fat First met Mick a long time ago when I arrived as a fresh faced young bold librarian in Aylesbury in 1970 blob. have known him since and he's always been a smashing chap last saw him at Whitby. He will be sadly missed. keep your chin up love and remember the happy times he was a special bloke. Jim |
13 Nov 05 - 07:35 AM (#1603658) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: GUEST,Ralph Sue. Thanks for posting. And you're right too. Next year will be hard, but, I for one will think back on all the great times that I shared with Mick. In the same way that Nigel Chippindale still comes back to chastise me to play better. Now theres a thought. Nigel and Mick trying to out fiddle each other! The Radway re-union in the winter will be all the more fitting now. Best Wishes Ralph and Barbara |
13 Nov 05 - 09:39 AM (#1603705) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: Mary Humphreys Oh I am so cut up to hear about Mick. We last saw him at Whitby this year in a session when he was still fiddling away with the best of them at the Middle Earth. He was so determined to carry on as though nothing had changed. What a spirit! We had some wonderful times at Sidmouth in the Radway, and I will always remember his wonderful calling for the Big Band Workshop, that gave many novice band members their first chance of playing for dancing with a first-class caller. What a loss to the music scene. I am so sad. Let us know what the funeral arrangements are please. Mary |
13 Nov 05 - 09:43 AM (#1603709) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: Mr Red I told three lasses at Cheltenham last night. All were devastated and remember him fondly - I think Mick would be proud. No - I know it. |
13 Nov 05 - 11:12 AM (#1603771) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: MBSLynne I'm not sure when I first met Mick...he just seems always to have been part of the folk scene. I know he was at my first Towersey in 1984 and I already knew him then, cos I was surprised that when I said "Hi" , not knowing him well, he came over and gave me a big hug. I guess I must have met him at Sidmouth. I know that I've seen him at the majority of festivals I've been to over the last 25 years and he's always treated me as an old friend, even in the very early days. He was also one of the people who welcomed a new player into session and gave them the confidence to join in. He was probably the best caller on the ceilidh scene....you always enjoyed a Mick Brooks ceilidh, no matter who was playing! What a nice guy! Why is it that so many of the nicest people are the ones who go too early? Have a pint and a play for me Mick! Love Lynne |
13 Nov 05 - 04:40 PM (#1603997) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: GUEST Hi Lynne. Anahata and Mary.. It's only just hit me. Bless Him. And Lynne...totally agree..why do the good die young? Must keep playing. Ralph |
14 Nov 05 - 10:18 AM (#1604603) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: GUEST,Jane Bridges I have only known Mick for 5 or so years, but as Lynne said, "he's always treated me as an old friend" - Amazing ! I heard of his sad passing from a friend at Saturday's Megabops ceilidh, and in a way it was the right place to hear. I could go out there and dance my socks off, just as Mick would have wanted. I saw him at Wallingford this year and he looked SO well, it was great. I decided just to talk to him about what we were both doing and enjoying that weekend, rather than 'how he was' etc, and that's the way he seemed to want it too. He just lived for the moment, didn't he, always busy, always laughing, always welcoming... Very inspiring & relevant. I shall remember him fondly, looking as well as he did last time I saw him, and dressed up ready to play for the wonderful buxom belly dancers on the seafront at Swanage. I too would be grateful to hear the funeral arrangements please, Love to family & friends, Tiger Jane |
14 Nov 05 - 11:30 AM (#1604671) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: GUEST,Gadaffi I'll miss the ol' bugger. I fondly recall the Radway full of musicians, as usual - no melodeon players (unless it was Nick Barber), and 23 string players, Mick being one of them. I'll raise a glass to his memory next August! |
14 Nov 05 - 12:06 PM (#1604695) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: GUEST,Fellow Fiddler Very sad to hear the news having played in sessions with Mick at various festivals for many years . A really lovely man and a great fiddle player who will be missed on the folk scene by all of his many friends . The Radway will seem a bit empty without him in the thick of it . Andy James |
14 Nov 05 - 09:53 PM (#1605198) Subject: Obit: Mick Brooks From: GUEST,hen harrier Very sad news that Mick Brooks (caller & fiddle player, N. Bucks) passed away last week. He'll be sorely missed, especially at beginners ceilidh workshops such as were featured at Sidmouth Fest. God rest his soul. |
15 Nov 05 - 08:17 AM (#1605422) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: GUEST refresh |
15 Nov 05 - 08:18 AM (#1605425) Subject: RE: Mick Brooks From: GUEST,Chris P I'm so sad to hear about Mick. My next pint and tune will be in his memory. Chris Partington |
16 Nov 05 - 03:50 AM (#1606203) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: mrsmick Funeral will be at St Mary's Church Aylesbury on Monday 21st followed by something more to Mick's taste in the Kings Head also in Aylesbury Sue |
16 Nov 05 - 03:52 AM (#1606204) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: mrsmick Sorry - forgot to say - probably 3.30. My brain isn't working properly at the moment. |
16 Nov 05 - 05:24 AM (#1606246) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: GUEST,Dave Ingledew - Bursledon Village Band My first memory of Mick was at the Radway when he was so friendly and helpful to Joyce & I in a rather testosterone fuelled session. That was back in the late 1970's since then of course we worked with Mick on many occassions, he was just the easiest caller to work with. He never seemed to make any effort and yet the dance ran like clockwork, the sign of a true expert. What else can I say, he was the most committed folky I've ever met, seldom judgmental, always encouraging. The unselfish hours he spent with beginner dancers and beginner musicians for that matter, the big grin and of course that laugh. We'll all miss him I know. Dave Ingledew |
16 Nov 05 - 05:41 AM (#1606249) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: MBSLynne Unfortunately, I won't be able to make the funeral or the wake...so please have a drink for me in Mick's memory......and it will be my birthday, not a good day to bury a friend. Love Lynne |
16 Nov 05 - 06:02 AM (#1606255) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: MC Fat Doubt if I can make it but would someone raise a glass on my behalf especially as it was at the King's Head where I believe I first met him when I started the folk club there |
16 Nov 05 - 01:01 PM (#1606581) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: GUEST,Ralphie Just a quick refresh. I think this needs to keep popping up for the next few days, just to alert Micks friends. Still trying to wangle my way out of work. Ralph |
16 Nov 05 - 06:07 PM (#1606772) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: Mary Humphreys Ralphie it would be great to have you there as part of the session. Anahata and I are taking the day off to be there. Mary |
17 Nov 05 - 07:10 AM (#1607108) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: GUEST,Helen Akitt I'm hoping to be able to get there. Could someone post the address of the Church please (I've been to the Kings Head before)? Thanks Helen |
17 Nov 05 - 07:17 AM (#1607111) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: treewind From the email I've just had from Roger Rowe: Here (Google Map) or Here (A Church near you) Anahata |
17 Nov 05 - 07:44 AM (#1607126) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: fiddler If I can't escape the drudgery of work to say cherio to Mick I well be there in spirit. But I shall aim to be there. Andy |
17 Nov 05 - 10:40 AM (#1607264) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: mrsmick Have heard from Mick's family - no flowers please (He loved giving them, but thought they were wasted at funerals), and no black. Still thinking about the best place for donations in lieu of flowers. Sue |
17 Nov 05 - 01:33 PM (#1607376) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: mrsmick Donations to Bristol Cancer Help Centre, Grove House, Cornwallis Grove, BRISTOL, BS8 4PG Sue |
17 Nov 05 - 02:37 PM (#1607434) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: GUEST,Thursday Mick's funeral has been arranged by his partner Barbara. She is the one who has decided where donations should be made. |
17 Nov 05 - 04:34 PM (#1607527) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: GUEST,Martin Ellison This is sad news indeed. I'd like to extend condolences on behalf of myself and the old "Ran Tan Band" members. Mick called for us on a couple of occasions and I remember him as being one of those easy going, easy to get on with, impossible not to like sort of blokes. Infectious laugh and infectious enthusiasm. Sorry I can't be with you on Monday but, if you get there Ralphie please play a tune and raise a glass for me. Martin Ellison |
18 Nov 05 - 12:51 AM (#1607883) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: GUEST,Ralphie Martin. Good to hear from you. Yes, I can get there, and will certainly raise a glass, and probably play many tunes!! Hope you and the family are keeping well. Cheers Mate. Ralphie. (Please get in touch sometime?) |
18 Nov 05 - 04:10 AM (#1607933) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: afriend To Guest, thursday. Don't want to raise bad feeling at such a sad time, but to many of us, Sue was Mick's partner. They hadbeen together for many years. It was an open secret thatbefore Mick was taken ill they had been making plans to live together. Please respect her feelings too. That said. I'm not looking forward to Monday, but I will be there too. Mick will I'm sure be with us in spirit. Anna |
18 Nov 05 - 06:04 AM (#1607982) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: GUEST,Sally M - at work I last saw him only about 4 weeks ago at one of the regular Bucks sessions we fiddle away at. Although a bit tired he was looking fairly okay and better than on some previous sessions. It was amazing how he found the energy to keep his music going till the very end. Although he could certainly be a prickly 'old goat' sometimes, he was great company and always ready with his distinctive laugh. We shall sorely miss his company, his laugh and his many tunes. A very talented guy. Sally |
18 Nov 05 - 08:24 AM (#1608068) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: GUEST,sonofmick Lets respect everyone's feelings, Dad wouldn't want it any other way. Look forward to having a drink with you all on Monday and for those who can't make it, raise a glass anyway! Matt |
18 Nov 05 - 09:18 AM (#1608109) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: the lemonade lady I'm so sorry to read all this. I saw him at Banbury and have known he was ill for some time. I thought he was looking good. We knew it would happen sometime but always hoped that it wouldn't. Lots of love to you Sue and although I haven't met Barbara and the family (I don't think) I hope the pain will pass. Probably won't be there on Monday. Hope it goes well. regards Sally (The Lemonade Lady) |
18 Nov 05 - 05:43 PM (#1608463) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: Chrissy Its wonderful to read so many tributes to Mick Brooks. He will be sadly missed not only by his numerous friends in the folk world but by his long time partner Barbara Hayes. Mick and Barbara have run a very successful gift shop and picture framing business for many years and Barbara has been a stalwart friend and folk scene companion too. She has organised a number of dances and events with Mick and played a full and active role in his interests. My thoughts are with Barbara at this sad time and I hope that others will join me in sending her our love and support. |
18 Nov 05 - 09:27 PM (#1608608) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: GUEST,hen harrier I most certainly will! Sorry I can't be there. Jim Martin, Dunsallagh East, Miltown Malbay, Co. Clare, Ireland |
19 Nov 05 - 09:23 AM (#1608874) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: GUEST,hen harrier refresh |
20 Nov 05 - 10:19 AM (#1609437) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: GUEST refresh |
20 Nov 05 - 05:19 PM (#1609655) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: Houston_Diamond I never know what to say at times like these but I will say this. Mick was someone I consider as a member of my folk family and will be remembered though my lifetime. Ceilidh's will seem to miss something without his presence and will never be as enjoyable as when Mick was the caller. See anyone that appears tomorrow. :) Houston |
20 Nov 05 - 09:55 PM (#1609859) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: GUEST refresh |
21 Nov 05 - 02:37 AM (#1609980) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: MBSLynne I will stop and have a thought for Mick this afternoon.....thoughts for his family too Love Lynne |
21 Nov 05 - 04:12 AM (#1610016) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: fiddler Today feels flat, after lunch will feel slower, I trust all who are there to see Mick off in style and life can begin to return to normal for all. Although never the same. Andy |
21 Nov 05 - 10:13 AM (#1610185) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: GUEST,hen harrier refresh |
22 Nov 05 - 10:50 AM (#1611198) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: treewind One of the more poignant parts of the memorial service was the very first contribution - a couple of tunes played on Mick's fiddle. A fine miscellany of music, dance and anecdotes followed. Thanks to all who contributed. We left while a session was still in full swing at the King's Head - don't know how much longer it went on but Mick got a great send-off. Anahata |
22 Nov 05 - 07:17 PM (#1611563) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: Tattie Bogle Memories for me also of the Big Band ceilidhs in the Church House marquee where he made sure our tempo was right for dancing by doing a pre-run himself. I also saw him at the Big Band Ceilidh in the Anchor gardens this year and (professional hat on) thought he looked pretty unwell then despite still having all that energy. My condolences too to his family. TB |
22 Nov 05 - 09:48 PM (#1611689) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: Houston_Diamond I don't remember ever seeing such a talented gathering of people, the Kings Head was far too packed inside so you were lucky to get a chair (or a standing space) there. Outside the ceilidhs being performed looked fun (and dangerous on the icy cobbles which kinda added to the fun ;P). A few musicians moved onto the Queens Head due to the limited space. The best send off I've ever been to (It was like a mini festival with some of the talent there). The day just proves how inspirational Mick was and how many lives he touched with the joy and passion of the music he was involved with. |
23 Nov 05 - 02:47 AM (#1611849) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: MBSLynne Thanks for the evocative report Houston...makes me wich more than ever that I'd been able to get there. I hope it was a little consolation to his family. Love Lynne |
23 Nov 05 - 08:41 AM (#1611865) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: treewind Another participant emailed me this morning: "By the time we finished at the church you couldn't get in the door at the King's!! And Barbara was worried not enough people would come, huh?" I hope the turnout was some comfort. Roger Rowe has published Pictures of the session Anahata |
23 Nov 05 - 10:56 PM (#1612528) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: GUEST refresh |
24 Nov 05 - 01:01 PM (#1612936) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: GUEST,Frances O'Rourke I'm so sorry to hear about Mick. He played at my 21st birthday which was well, a few years ago now. A lovely man, always positive, happy and such a great caller. He could get dancers to do anthing at all, sometimes quite complex moves with so few words and with such charm and ease. Frances |
27 Nov 05 - 10:02 PM (#1615152) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: GUEST refresh |
28 Nov 05 - 04:56 PM (#1615784) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: GUEST,Hen Harrier Good to see you on the "Catters" site, Frances. Jim Martin |
29 Nov 05 - 07:44 AM (#1616245) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: GUEST refresh |
29 Nov 05 - 08:24 PM (#1616793) Subject: RE: Obit: Mick Brooks (10 Nov 2005) From: Arbuthnot There's a thing - I still owed him a pint from the last Sunday guitar session I went to before I moved North. Sad to hear - condolences to all - but if I know Mick he'll be running a harp workshop as I write! |