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BS: Bat dung question???...

08 Aug 06 - 08:13 PM (#1804858)
Subject: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Bobert

Well, seems that I have this place in my equipement barn where these small pellet like things jus' tend to accumulate on the floor... I sweep it clean and in no time there is another pile of it on the floor??? The only thing I can figfure is that maybe there's a bat that hangs up there in the rafters somewhere...

Now I know that Spawzer is the dung=man here but, hey, maybe even he isn't familiar with the droppings of bats but maybe some cattter/spelunker is...

So my qustion is this... What does bat dung look like???

And yes, I'm pefectly serious...

Bobert


08 Aug 06 - 08:17 PM (#1804862)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: bobad

Bat crap

www.biokids.umich.edu/guides/signs/scat.html

link repaired.......Mudelf


08 Aug 06 - 08:18 PM (#1804864)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Peace

Bat dung--from brown bats.


08 Aug 06 - 08:20 PM (#1804866)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Divis Sweeney

Their droppings are called guano.


08 Aug 06 - 08:25 PM (#1804874)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Peace

Hey, make me a pellet on your floor . . . .


08 Aug 06 - 08:26 PM (#1804875)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Bobert

Cowabunga!!!

Yes, yes, yes!!! Thank you, Lord... I've read that this sh*t is some fine fertilizer and it's gonna get a test...

Yep, that's it fir sure... and I got me a pile of it!!!

Holy Toledo!!!

Look out fall beans... Guano is a' comin'....

Bobert


08 Aug 06 - 08:26 PM (#1804877)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Divis Sweeney

Looks like the dry ingredients in our local Asian food store !


08 Aug 06 - 08:29 PM (#1804878)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Peace

"ARE YOU EXPOSING YOURSELF TO HISTOPLASMOSIS?"

from


http://64.233.167.104/search?q=cache:3ShNseDdyyIJ:wasg.iinet.net.au/histo.html+bat+guano,+disease&hl=en&gl=ca&ct=clnk&cd=1


08 Aug 06 - 08:31 PM (#1804881)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: GUEST,Rapaire

And you can use it to make your own saltpeter for either the mashed potatoes or for making your own gunpowder.

Bats are our friends. They eat lots of insects and do NOT entangle themselves in women's hair. If rabid they exhibit the usual symptoms of rabies in wild animals. (There's lots of information about rabies in bats and bats in general here. )

You might consider wearing a dust mask when sweeping up....


08 Aug 06 - 08:32 PM (#1804882)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: catspaw49

Well shitfire Bobertz, whatcha' need to do is sell it. If you find some folks wanting to attract bats to their recently acquired "bat house," they will need a supply of guano. No shit! well, it is shit but it's no shit that they need shit. Can you figger that shit out? I ain't shittin' you about needing batshit to attract bats......and people WILL pay for it!

Spaw


08 Aug 06 - 08:42 PM (#1804891)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: GUEST,frogprince, o Martha's Vinyard

We had these little black-rice turds in a corner of our porch for years, and I always figured it was mice, but there was no sign of mouse damage. Finally a buddy clued me in. A couple of days later we found a dead bat on the porch. I'm farm-raised, and I know some shit, but I didn't know bat shit.


08 Aug 06 - 08:44 PM (#1804892)
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From: Rapparee

Bat shit is what Batman does in the bat room.


08 Aug 06 - 08:50 PM (#1804897)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Ebbie

Question: What does snake scat look like? It has never occurred to me to look.


08 Aug 06 - 08:50 PM (#1804898)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: GUEST,frogprince

By the way, how do you get them to abandon a spot where they're unwelcome? If you put a bathouse nearby, will they opt for that?


08 Aug 06 - 08:52 PM (#1804901)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Bobert

Great, Spawzer... I cut you in fir half if you find the buyers... Looks like a gota pound or two of it right now and it some some good sh*t an' ain't got no histolasnosis in it 'cause it's fallin' on a dry floor... Heck, maybe I could just put a plastic tashe can were it's at and then alll I'd have to do is scoop it out, bag it up an' send it to yer buyers...

Yazzir... In a couple years we be sittin' down in the Carribian unner some coconut tree lightin' joints wid hundred dollar bills...

Yazzir...

But until you get them buyers line up, think I'll put some on my fall bean crop... Okay wid you???

Guana-bert


08 Aug 06 - 08:54 PM (#1804905)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Peace

"Question: What does snake scat look like?"

Here ya go Ebbie. Be very scared.


08 Aug 06 - 09:00 PM (#1804909)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Peace

Droppings from an anaconda that ate a Volkswagen.


08 Aug 06 - 09:04 PM (#1804913)
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From: Rapparee

Feel sorry for that first snake...gives a whole new meaning to "pushing a pen."


08 Aug 06 - 09:12 PM (#1804918)
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From: Peace

More snake dung.

VIEWER ALERT: Please notice the complete absence of humans in this photo. Be VERY afraid.


08 Aug 06 - 09:20 PM (#1804925)
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From: GUEST,Rapaire

Ever wonder about dinosaur poop?


08 Aug 06 - 09:21 PM (#1804927)
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From: bobad

No, not really.


08 Aug 06 - 09:28 PM (#1804934)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Peace

Jaysus--that's looks lots like Shatner's kidney stone, Rapaire.


08 Aug 06 - 09:40 PM (#1804941)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: GUEST,Rapaire

My brother, the rock polisher, tells me that coprolite (fossilized dinosaur dung) polishes up very nicely and makes lovely cufflinks, among other things. Perhaps Shatner's kidney stone would work as well.


08 Aug 06 - 09:42 PM (#1804944)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Peace

T'would also make an attractive pendant for that special someone who has 'everything'.


08 Aug 06 - 09:51 PM (#1804952)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Ebbie

Peace, you is a funny man.

Next question: What is the difference size-wize between a garter snake's scat and that of a python? (Thanks for the laugh about the VW parts, Peace.)


08 Aug 06 - 10:04 PM (#1804957)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Peace

"What is the difference size-wize between a garter snake's scat and that of a python?"

THAT is an excellent question. A python getting ready to eat din-dins. A garter snake getting ready to BE din-dins . . . .

A guess--flat-out guess: The python will have a morning constitutional that would defy the imagination. The kid will eat the garter snake and puke.


08 Aug 06 - 10:52 PM (#1804970)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Stilly River Sage

Okay, folks, I skipped straight to the bottom once the guano was identified as coming from bats. Sorry if this is repetition, but it bears repeating. I didn't click on Bruce's link, but Bobert, do you know what histoplasmosis is? It's a nasty lung infection that involves a cough and a fever and it lasts for weeks and weeks. My ex caught it when he was cleaning up a dead bat in Mammoth Cave where he was a park naturalist. The dust he stirred up was enough to infect his lungs. It is endemic in the cave country so the doctor he saw wouldn't qualify him for workman's comp, but we all knew how he got it. He missed something like 6-8 weeks of work and was feeling puny for quite a while after that, and took the first job offer that came along after that just to get out of Kaintuck and away from the caves. (And that's how I goddamned ended up in Texas, folks!)

You catch histo from bird and bat droppings, primarily. You may have had a mild case at some time in the past, depending on where you live, and may have built up immunity. But if you haven't, check around and find out about it.

SRS--taking this question very seriously.


08 Aug 06 - 10:56 PM (#1804975)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Helen

Rapaire, maybe I'd better not tell the joke that has the following phrases in it: "constipated mathematician" "worked it out with a pencil".

Yes, best to leave that one alone, eh?

Helen


08 Aug 06 - 11:01 PM (#1804978)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Sorcha

Well....technically 'guano' is bird poop, but bat poop is guano too
And Bobert...this is some HOT SHIT.....let it cool out and mellow a while before using for fertilizer or you will burn the CRAP out of your plants and soil. Really.


09 Aug 06 - 09:02 AM (#1805175)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Rapparee

Yeah. Keep it in big bins and pour old urine over it. Let it work, and stir it every so often. When it's well fermenting, let it dry and then wash it. Carefully pour off the wash water, discarding the sludge. Evaporate and save the white crystals -- that's potassium nitrate and is used in making your own gunpowder! Yes! You can make your own fireworks!

All you have to do is put up with all those complaints from the neighbors and your spouse and the Health Department and the EPA and all those sorts of nay-sayers and partypoopers. Of course, there is also a teeny-weeny bit more to it than I just described. I do suggest that you keep your house UPWIND from the tanks, though. (You can also toss in night soil, the stuff from old barns and corrals and cattle yards, just all kinds of shit!)


09 Aug 06 - 09:36 AM (#1805201)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: JennyO

Bobert, you might need one of these to take your bat guano away.


09 Aug 06 - 10:37 AM (#1805239)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Stilly River Sage

He could save himself a few steps by mining the dirt in any old cave nearby. It probably has lots of it distilled down. But it also has that histo threat. Bobert, are you [cough cough] listening?

BTW, despite the stupid Google ads for repelling bats, they're very important in the environment, particularly in bug removal and pollination.

SRS


09 Aug 06 - 12:24 PM (#1805326)
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From: Les from Hull

Colonel 'Bat' Guano was one of the characters in the excellent film 'Dr Stangelove - or how I learned to stop worrying and love the bomb'!


09 Aug 06 - 12:35 PM (#1805334)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: vectis

Bat shit is one of the best fertalisers fo pot plants you can get. Let it dry and sit for a while before you use it though it's really hot stuff when it's new.
Over here in the UK it used to be sold occasionally in little packets as houseplant fertaliser.


09 Aug 06 - 12:51 PM (#1805345)
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From: JennyO

a favourite expression (around here in Oz at least) is "as boring as batshit". Now why should batshit be boring?


09 Aug 06 - 04:36 PM (#1805549)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Peace

The topic of bat guano was very much popularized by Batman and Robin. I am sure I heard Robin exclaim, "Holy flying bat shit." I may have misheard, but I think not.


09 Aug 06 - 06:03 PM (#1805628)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Kaleea

Holy turdbuttons, Batman, don't those 'Catters have fascinatin' topics of conversation?


10 Aug 06 - 10:29 AM (#1806217)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Mr Fox

Be afraid. Be very afraid..............

Recently (January 2006) Scientists from the IRD and the CIRMF detected specific Ebola virus antibodies in the serum of three species of tropical fruit bats and revealed the presence of viral genome fragments in the liver and spleen of these bats.


10 Aug 06 - 10:45 AM (#1806240)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Peace

A google of

bats, ebola virus

Sometimes, ya know . . . .


10 Aug 06 - 11:50 AM (#1806311)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Mr Fox

Well, somebody had already mentioned rabies.


10 Aug 06 - 12:18 PM (#1806347)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Rapparee

AND histoplasmosis.


10 Aug 06 - 10:53 PM (#1806890)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Peace

I wonder whether the ebola virus would be carried by the dung beetle. Anyone know?


11 Aug 06 - 05:46 AM (#1807053)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Mr Fox

Googling 'ebola virus' and 'vectors', I found this:-

Monkeys are known to be both victims (die of) of and short-term vectors (carry the disease for a while) for Ebola. Bats have also been recently discovered as a limited potential vector. Other vectors are unknown as yet, and it is highly unlikely that Monkeys are the long-term vectors for Ebola because they die from it as quickly as humans. Recently (January 2006) Scientists from the IRD and the CIRMF detected specific Ebola virus antibodies in the serum of three species of tropical fruit bats and revealed the presence of viral genome fragments in the liver and spleen of these bats. This discovery should not be confused with finding the reservoir or vector of Ebola - this simply indicates that it is possible that Ebola infected bats could survive and transmit the virus to primates. This does not indicate that bats are the natural reservoir, just that it is a possibility.


11 Aug 06 - 12:37 PM (#1807319)
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From: open mike

now, you leave my little beetle friends out of this...

many organisms require warm blooded hosts and are not likely
to survive in insects. I believe the adult dung beetle does
not eat dung, just lays eggs in it and rolls it. Cowboys knew
about this, which is why they were always singing "rollin',
rollin', rollin'..." the larvae eat it, though.

there are however some diseases transmitted by insects
http://insectzoo.msstate.edu/Students/basic.harm.html


11 Aug 06 - 04:57 PM (#1807547)
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From: dick greenhaus

And there's the whole maritime tradition (complete with chanteys) of the guano trade.


11 Aug 06 - 05:15 PM (#1807559)
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From: Slag

More than I ever wanted to know about bat poop. 48 post to this? I hope to someday come up with a clever post like this that will draw large commentary.


12 Aug 06 - 06:46 AM (#1808011)
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From: Liz the Squeak

Just make sure they are not vampire bats though... too much blood and bone meal is not good for a garden.

It's none to clever as an air freshener either.

LTS


12 Aug 06 - 11:05 PM (#1808500)
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From: GUEST,theresa_phelps2002

Oh yeah. That bat dust lung disease killed my husband. Only he got it from pigeons. Same thing though. They brought him back to life and saved him but the damage is real. Stay away from bat caves and pigeon lofts. 10 days on life support is no fun.


12 Aug 06 - 11:18 PM (#1808505)
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From: Troll

Here in Gainesville, Fla. at the Univ. of Fla., they have a bat house. they built it to try and lure the bats away from their roosts in - among other places - the football stadium.
It worked. The bat house is located beside a small lake (Lake Alice) and people congregate in the evenings to watch as thousands of bats leave their roost for the evenings forage.
Hey, everyone needs a hobby,I guess. I think bat watching is a little strange but what do I know?
And no, I don't know what they do with the guano.

troll


12 Aug 06 - 11:29 PM (#1808507)
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From: Peace

No wonder! It's a football stadium.


13 Aug 06 - 02:16 AM (#1808558)
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From: Stilly River Sage

Theresa,

Sorry to read that your husband had such a bad case. One of the problems with this is that it scars the lung tissue, so once you've had it, you may end up operating at a diminished capacity breathing-wise the rest of your life. (That's my understanding of it, at any rate).


13 Aug 06 - 08:21 PM (#1809143)
Subject: RE: BS: Bat dung question???...
From: Bobert

Well, thanks folks fit sharin' yer vast knowledge of bat dung with this ol' hillbilly...

Havin' survived the 60's I don't reckon there's too much of my lungs that ain't covered in scar tissue but, hey, this is some bad sh*t, that's fir sure... I've recieved a few PM's on the subject with suggestions and will follow them...

They include talkin' with the local health department and the local ag-extension agent...