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Origins: Old World Pronounciation: 'Keinton' ??

09 Aug 06 - 08:06 PM (#1805732)
Subject: Origins: Old World Pronounciation: 'Keinton' ??
From: GUEST

From "Clean Contrary Way", a verse says


At Keinton, Brainford, Plymouth, York, and divers Places more,
What Victories we Saints obtain, the like nere seen before.
How often we Prince Rupert kill'd, and bravely wonne the day,
The wicked Cavaliers did run the clean contrary way.


How do you pronounce "Keinton" ? AY or ee?

Also I guess "Brainford" is like 'brain' in your head?


09 Aug 06 - 08:27 PM (#1805754)
Subject: RE: Origins: Old World Pronounciation: 'Keinton' ??
From: Bert

As far as the pronunciation of place names goes, you have to ask the folks who live there. Everyone else gets them wrong.


10 Aug 06 - 12:54 AM (#1805913)
Subject: RE: Origins: Old World Pronounciation: 'Keinton' ??
From: Selchie - (RH)

The Battle of Edgehill was the first pitched battle of the Civil War, the nearby village is KINETON, Warwickshire ~ (as in MINE).

See Edgehill Fight ~ http://www.kipling.org.uk/poems_edgehill.htm

or

Wikipedia ~ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Edgehill

Rosie


10 Aug 06 - 03:41 AM (#1805967)
Subject: RE: Origins: Old World Pronounciation: 'Keinton' ?
From: Paul Burke

Not five miles away from here, there's a hamlet called Gotham. How do you pronounce it? Like Goth-am Batman? Goat-am? Go- tham? Got-am? I've asked people from close by, and even they come up with different answers.

But I think Selchie's suggestion is best.


10 Aug 06 - 08:58 AM (#1806121)
Subject: RE: Origins: Old World Pronounciation: 'Keinton' ??
From: Micca

last time I was in the area the road sign outside the village said Kineton and it was prounounced as Selchie has it.


10 Aug 06 - 09:08 AM (#1806131)
Subject: RE: Origins: Old World Pronounciation: 'Keinton' ??
From: Snuffy

It probably is Kineton, but there is a Keinton Mandeville in Somerset. No idea how they pronounce it, and it seems to have no Civil War connection.

And where's Brainford? Google maps can't find it in UK.


10 Aug 06 - 10:06 AM (#1806177)
Subject: RE: Origins: Old World Pronounciation: 'Keinton' ??
From: Snuffy

Answered my own question - "Brainford" is nowadays called Brentford

And according to this legend (page 29 &f) Kineton was spelled as Keinton in former times.


10 Aug 06 - 10:52 AM (#1806247)
Subject: RE: Origins: Old World Pronounciation: 'Keinton' ??
From: Selchie - (RH)

It is Kineton, Warks, I work there, but I'm afraid I don't know the old world pronuncation for it.

However Wikipedia suggests Kington originally ~

The village is mentioned in the Domesday Book as Kington.

Rosie