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17 Sep 06 - 06:31 AM (#1836529) Subject: OK occupations for folksingers. From: greg stephens Judging by the contents of these pages over many years, there is often evidence that some people actually disapprove of people singing folk songs being professional musicians. There is also a considerable hostility to the more thoughtful or wordy professionals being allowed to sing folk songs at all: schoolteachers, librarians and social workers are often singled out for derision. So I thought, let's approach it from the other angle entirely. What, in your opinion, would be the most OK profession for a singer of folksongs? |
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17 Sep 06 - 06:42 AM (#1836537) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: GUEST Tinker Ploughman Shepherd Weaver Spinner Sailor but best of all Poacher |
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17 Sep 06 - 07:25 AM (#1836546) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: JennieG Young maid! Cheers JennieG |
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17 Sep 06 - 08:00 AM (#1836557) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Scrump A beggarman, of course ;-) |
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17 Sep 06 - 08:01 AM (#1836559) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: GUEST Yes greg, you're so right. For those of that opinion I think Dylan's line "There's no success like failure" would aply. So the best job would be failed folksinger. |
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17 Sep 06 - 08:03 AM (#1836560) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Ross Quantity Surveyor? |
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17 Sep 06 - 08:09 AM (#1836562) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Dave Hanson Pie hardener for British Rail. Test Pilot for Draught Guiness. Shantyman. Crimp. Runner. Whore. eric |
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17 Sep 06 - 08:21 AM (#1836571) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: GUEST,Cap'n One-eyed-snake A Pirate |
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17 Sep 06 - 08:30 AM (#1836574) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: number 6 web forum moderators. sIx |
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17 Sep 06 - 08:45 AM (#1836580) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Maryrrf Apprentice Rambler Gambler Steel drivin' man rake and a rovin' blade |
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17 Sep 06 - 08:49 AM (#1836581) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: greg stephens Quantity surveyor is an interesting suggestion. There is a very celebrated band in Cork called Twotime Polka, and I think their lead singer Tomas Dunne is or was a quantity surveyor on the new terminal at Cork airport. Given Leadbelly's huge success. I wonder if multiple murderer might be a reasonable career choice? |
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17 Sep 06 - 09:46 AM (#1836606) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Scooby Doo |
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17 Sep 06 - 09:47 AM (#1836607) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Scooby Doo Perhaps a virgin. |
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17 Sep 06 - 09:54 AM (#1836612) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Liz the Squeak NO Scooby, that would be a folk drummer. LTS |
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17 Sep 06 - 10:00 AM (#1836615) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Scooby Doo LTS, I never get things right. Scooby |
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17 Sep 06 - 10:14 AM (#1836620) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Dave Hanson Christy Moore was a bank clerk. eric |
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17 Sep 06 - 10:21 AM (#1836625) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: GUEST Itinerant knife-sharpener. |
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17 Sep 06 - 10:25 AM (#1836629) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: greg stephens The fiddler Thomas Hardy wrote books and poems on the side, which is a bit poncy. |
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17 Sep 06 - 10:28 AM (#1836632) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Dave the Gnome Folk singer? :D (tG) |
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17 Sep 06 - 10:34 AM (#1836637) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: vielleuse If you're female the choices aren't very numerous really: pretty fair maid, single mother, nagging wife or prostitute. You can drag up and join the forces, but only in pursuit of a bloke. |
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17 Sep 06 - 10:51 AM (#1836643) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Michael in Swansea British Telecomm exchange planner |
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17 Sep 06 - 11:21 AM (#1836649) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Folkiedave Pilot for London Underground Airways |
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17 Sep 06 - 11:28 AM (#1836656) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Big Mick Union Organizer and Community Organizer, Dad, Son, Brother, Rake, Layabout, and poker player |
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17 Sep 06 - 11:37 AM (#1836661) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: GUEST,Clint Wayne A Cowboy |
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17 Sep 06 - 11:42 AM (#1836663) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: GUEST,Jim Assistant lamp post quantification co-ordinator for Hampstead Council. Or whippet handler. |
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17 Sep 06 - 11:52 AM (#1836669) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Effsee Eric Bogle was an Accountant. |
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17 Sep 06 - 12:05 PM (#1836677) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Herga Kitty Les Barker was an accountant too, but he doesn't sing.... Keith Marsden was a bank manager... Robbie Burns was an Exciseman, wasn't he? Are there any folk-singing tailors and cobblers who could redress the balance and put the stocking and shoe on the other foot? Kitty |
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17 Sep 06 - 12:13 PM (#1836682) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: GUEST Changing lightbulbs Jim Carroll |
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17 Sep 06 - 12:22 PM (#1836690) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Gorgeous Gary Pizza delivery? Based, of course, on the old joke "How do you get a musician off your porch? Pay him for the pizza!" 8-) -- Gary |
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17 Sep 06 - 01:16 PM (#1836724) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: vielleuse I don't think there is a Hampstead Council, Jim, I think it comes under Camden. |
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17 Sep 06 - 03:27 PM (#1836800) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: GUEST,thurg The folksinger Carl Sandburg wrote books and poems on the side ... |
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17 Sep 06 - 03:39 PM (#1836811) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Big Al Whittle on the side of what...? I always wanted to be a hippy, but I didn't have the figure for it. |
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17 Sep 06 - 03:40 PM (#1836812) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Elmer Fudd She's a humdinger. Folksinger. |
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17 Sep 06 - 04:03 PM (#1836825) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Mingulay Does being an ex cobbler count?? |
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17 Sep 06 - 04:06 PM (#1836829) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Liz the Squeak Thomas Hardy was an architect first.... LTS |
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17 Sep 06 - 04:12 PM (#1836835) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Tim theTwangler How about if it didnt matter"What you do" for a living(oops sorry thats the same as a career,for the rest of you) Maybe it would be nice to be more accepting of the music people play and sing than whether their education and bank ballance meets with your aproval. LOL |
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17 Sep 06 - 04:19 PM (#1836837) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Uncle_DaveO Not intending to cause thread creep, but I gotta ask: What's "a quantity surveyor"? Dave Oesterreich |
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17 Sep 06 - 05:05 PM (#1836865) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: JamesHenry Schoolteachers and social workers accumulate so much pent up stress that they have to give vent somewhere. Folk clubs and a captive audience provide the ideal outlet where they can get it all out of their systems and escape reality for a while. Some lose touch with reality altogether and turn professional. Escapism features largely here, usually with the misguided notion that they actually have something to say. So, whatever is an ok occupation for folksingers I would say, "Don't give up the day job." This sounds cynical, doesn't it? |
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17 Sep 06 - 05:10 PM (#1836867) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Folkiedave Changing lightbulbs Reminds me of the joke - how many EFDSS members does it take to change a light bulb? CHANGE?????????????? |
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17 Sep 06 - 05:10 PM (#1836868) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Roughyed Rat catcher, preferably from Lancashire. |
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17 Sep 06 - 06:12 PM (#1836911) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Jerry Rasmussen Bascam Lamar Lunsford was a lawyer. I thought that the Museum field was a wonderful atmosphere for a folk singer because of the shared interest in past cultures. Worked for me. Jerry |
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17 Sep 06 - 06:20 PM (#1836917) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Susanne (skw) Mole catcher (from Morayshire). I thought of that before reading Roughyed's post, honest! BTW, if my English teacher had been too timid to make an ass of himself and actually SING in front of a form of sniggering 12-year-olds (I was SO embarrassed on his behalf! He wasn't in the least ...), I'd never have entered the world of British folk. So, teacher seems okay to me. |
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17 Sep 06 - 06:27 PM (#1836925) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: GUEST,thurg leech-gatherer |
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17 Sep 06 - 06:39 PM (#1836937) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Bill D Jack-of-all-trades, Master of none. |
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17 Sep 06 - 06:43 PM (#1836939) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: jimmyt I suppose dentist is out of the question so I will stick with my first thought and I want anyone to one-up this, CURRYSHIP DELIVERER I rest my case. |
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17 Sep 06 - 07:55 PM (#1836979) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: greg stephens Bobert seemed to me the quintessential folksinger when I met him, but it was never clear to me what he ever did when we weren't actually sat picking guitars. |
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17 Sep 06 - 08:33 PM (#1836998) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: frogprince Rock-splitter on a chain gang is an obvious possibility. or, "I'm a lumberjack, and I'm okay..." |
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17 Sep 06 - 09:07 PM (#1837022) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Effsee Highwayman or Pirate! |
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17 Sep 06 - 09:23 PM (#1837030) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: GUEST,Kavinder Telemarketers |
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17 Sep 06 - 09:48 PM (#1837041) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: GUEST Something to do with sheep . . . . |
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17 Sep 06 - 10:07 PM (#1837055) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: GUEST,Edward G Cagney convict |
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17 Sep 06 - 10:16 PM (#1837062) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Deckman I was a "turkey plucker" once! No ... I mean it! ... I REALLY WAS A TURKEY PLUCKER ONCE!! (really) And yes, everyone said that I REALLY was a pleasant plucker). Oh well, I don't suppose this really adds much to the discussion! Bob |
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17 Sep 06 - 10:22 PM (#1837068) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Bill D Ha!...I was a BEAN COUNTER! Really...I counted beans...(no, not one by one)..by the case, mostly, but sometimes by the bag. At a Pork & Bean cannery. I was inventory clerk. So, there's one! |
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17 Sep 06 - 10:24 PM (#1837069) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Willie-O Lumberjacks and sailors are too far from town most of the time to be able to make the gig. Farmers are too much like folksingers--they need another job just to keep farming. (I heard a farmer-folksinger refer to himself as a "two-time loser".) I am a delivery guy (bread not pizza) and it is a pretty good counterpart to my musical activities, though not perfect since I work too late on Fridays to gig. Consider the parameters. You need a day job, not one that puts you on night shifts or weekends, and you need to be able to arrange blocks of time off now and then, EXACTLY WHEN YOU NEED THEM. Call centre agent and big-box store flunkie didn't really work for me. A lot of musicians work in carpentry and other building trades. That's got a lot of advantages if you can hack it. (hah). Usually straight days, rarely weekends unless you want them. Carpentry is one trade you can learn on the job like I did (although some training would help.) Socially useful and sort of romantic. And once you become skilled, work is easy to come by--there's a chronic shortage of skilled tradespeople. If you are a free-lancer by nature, you can plan your own schedule. You could work part-time in the summer, then the busy season is the fall which isn't necessarily the busy season for music. I still do some carpentry but I'm trying to kick the habit--you get physically worn out after awhile (starts around the time you know what you're doing unfortunately). W-O |
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17 Sep 06 - 11:02 PM (#1837092) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Genie joker, toker, cee-gar smoker? |
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17 Sep 06 - 11:33 PM (#1837107) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: frogprince Poet, picker, prophet, pusher, pilgrim, preacher |
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17 Sep 06 - 11:50 PM (#1837111) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Genie beer taster hit man (or woman) rake (does that pay well?) moonshiner |
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17 Sep 06 - 11:52 PM (#1837113) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: GUEST,Will Youmarryme soldier |
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17 Sep 06 - 11:53 PM (#1837115) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: GUEST,Cole Porter miner |
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17 Sep 06 - 11:54 PM (#1837117) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: GUEST,Chubby Wamba Anarchist |
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18 Sep 06 - 12:02 AM (#1837121) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: JedMarum this IS my profession - I think it's OK. |
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18 Sep 06 - 01:44 AM (#1837144) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Seaking Saucy sailor |
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18 Sep 06 - 03:55 AM (#1837172) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Liz the Squeak Now that we're all one jolly Government Department, I could say that in the old parlance, I'm now one of the Preventivemen. So none of this Watching the Wall me darlings.... LTS |
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18 Sep 06 - 04:24 AM (#1837184) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Paul Burke Weaver, preferably with four looms. Coalminer (preferably dead). Ploughboy (jovial or whistling). Poteen distiller. Doffer, or mistress of one. Jolly Jack Tar or sailor come from sea. Carters have to be jolly too. You can only be an engine driver (engineer) in the USA, and punching poor defenceless cows has been struck off the list. You can also drive steel, whatever that means, over that side. |
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18 Sep 06 - 05:37 AM (#1837223) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: GUEST,jOhn Taxi driver |
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18 Sep 06 - 06:17 AM (#1837233) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: HuwG roughyed and suzanne (skw), Stuart Thompson has indeed been a rat-catcher, in Lancashire. I last saw Stuart last week, showing off a mandola he had made himself. The sound board came from an old chest of drawers, the neck from a table leg, and so on. It sounded magnificent. |
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18 Sep 06 - 08:16 AM (#1837291) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: GUEST,Folkie. Quantity surveyors, Social workers, Failed musicians, Drunks, Lepers, Half wits, Billy no mates'es, Social pariahs etc. Good god!! I fit the bill to a tee...!!! |
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18 Sep 06 - 08:49 AM (#1837321) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Ross Quantity Surveyor - it's like being an accountant but you only ever get to work with building related items - counting bricks to earn money, pleaing for money, refusing to pay money, falling out with people over money, making fancy diagrams to illustrate if there is any money/where there night be money/if it's spent wisely (or foolishly)/or where the money has gone, explaining why every thing is late and you need more money, demanding money with menaces (I'll sing at you), bathing in money, being nice to people who are never nice to you in case there is money in it and trying to avoid money with sexual malice aforethought That's why I go to folk clubs - it's the same |
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18 Sep 06 - 09:34 AM (#1837365) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Mooh Gravedigger, janitor, the wrongly convicted, Peter Amberley (sp?)... Peace, Mooh. |
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18 Sep 06 - 09:39 AM (#1837373) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Willie-O Um, so is a quantity surveyor a construction estimator then? Or some kind of forensic follow-up who determines what became of the materials ordered? W-O Still baffled, and there's no sport in that |
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18 Sep 06 - 10:06 AM (#1837388) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Genie Based on the lyrics and number of verses to many "folk songs," I'd say: navel contemplator autobiographical journalist and natural insomnia cure(r) |
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18 Sep 06 - 10:17 AM (#1837396) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Effsee W-O, from Wikipaedia:- A Quantity Surveyor (QS) is a professional person working within the construction industry. The role of the QS is, in general terms, to manage and control costs within construction projects and may involve the use of a range of management procedures and technical tools to achieve this goal. The profession developed during the 19th century from the earlier "Measurer", a specialist tradesman (often a guild member), who prepared standardised schedules for a building project in which all of the construction materials, labour activities and the like were quantified and against which competing builders could submit priced tenders. Because the tenders were each based on the same schedule of information, they would be easily compared to find the most suitable candidate. |
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18 Sep 06 - 10:23 AM (#1837401) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Flash Company Am I the only one to make the connection Quantity Surveyor/Richard Stilgoe? RS wrote a folk song parody which went (from memory) something like this :- A Quantity surveyor in a public bar did sit, He wore an Arran sweater, a great big chunky (k)nit, He supped a nervous pint of ale because he knew e'er long, He had to sing the Folk Club in the public bar a song! Hi me roo collapsum roarem, Hi me roo fa lay oh, Fol dol riddle diddle, diddle iddle I doh, Diddlin all the day oh! Just then two more Surveyors came walking in the bar, One pulled a banjo from a case, the other a guitar, They sang a brisk sea shanty, each Arran sweatered man, As only three town dwelling Quantity Surveyors can! Hi me roo collapsum roarem, Hi me roo fa lay oh, Fol dol Riddle diddle, sea sick in a row boat, Keep the waves away oh. That night they made a solemn vow to go full time a-playing, To travel round the folk clubs and go no more surveying, They played a score of choruses, they drank too many beers, And they sang in funny voices with their hands behind their ears! Hi me roo collapsum roarem, Hi me roo fa lay oh, Fol dol riddle diddle nine pints tiddly, Real ale rules OK oh The moral of this little song, if moral there be any, Is men who go folk-singing always sing one verse too many, The reason is, we're all afraid that someone might betray us, And make us all go back to being Quantity Surveyors! Hi me roo collapsum roarem, Hi me roo fa lay oh, Fol dol riddle diddle, Fothergill and Harvey, Quantity Survey-OH! I did sing it once, people threw things at me! FC |
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18 Sep 06 - 11:23 AM (#1837436) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: JennyO The Shiny Bum Singers have turned their jobs as public servants into a very successful folk act. All their songs, which they write themselves, are about aspects of the public service. The Shiny Bum Singers are a vocally inspiring and visually entertaining group of mostly public servants (some have been outsourced), who sing their own wicked parodies about the Australian Public Service. Founded in the a capella tradition - guitars, keyboards, bouzoukis, ukuleles and even guitar cases are now strummed, picked, plucked, beaten and stroked to accompany inspired lyrics, brilliant humour and shambolic choreography. Based in Canberra, the Australian bush capital, they have performed to packed houses at the Australian National Folk Festival in recent years. They have toured extensively around Canberra, regional New South Wales and Victoria, and played to enthusiastic audiences in Sydney's top folk venues. These days their act has been getting more visual, with one song involving them doing a little morris-type dance while whacking keyboards across each other. What a perfect blending of occupations! They will be appearing with John Dengate this Saturday night - "Songs of Sedition" at Sydney's Loaded Dog Folk Club. I'll be there, with bells on, as they say! |
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18 Sep 06 - 11:30 AM (#1837444) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Scrump Merry Ploughboy, Blackleg Miner, Four Loom Weaver, Shurat Weaver, House Carpenter, Little Beggarman, Drunken Maiden, Drunken Tackler, Champion Dung Spreader, Poor Poor Farmer, Rochdale Masher, Manchester Rambler, Wild Rover, Rambling Rover, Jolly Undertaker. (I made one of those up - can you tell which it was?) |
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18 Sep 06 - 11:33 AM (#1837446) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Partridge Honest Labourer pat x |
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18 Sep 06 - 11:57 AM (#1837460) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Betsy For Quantity Surveyor - Google - George Corderoy - Q.S.-ing has been around a long time. |
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18 Sep 06 - 11:57 AM (#1837463) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Paco Rabanne Pensioner. |
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18 Sep 06 - 12:12 PM (#1837476) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: pdq Sam Hinton is a marine biologist, now retired. John Jackson was a grave digger and a true craftsman, the corners and sides of the grave were always sharp and straight. Dave Van Ronk was once employed to paint the eye spots on Mickey Mouse dolls! |
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18 Sep 06 - 01:24 PM (#1837536) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: GUEST,Jim Vielilleuse: Thanks for the Intelligence. Me and 't whippets 'll bear it in mind if we come down to 't Smoke for a grand day out. Do you know the queen? Me and 't whippets has been watching that Folk Brittanial thing and it looks like them pinko b*****s has taken over the whole World of Folk whatever that is. When we come down to Londeon I think we'll call in at MI5 and ask for a job suitable for a folk singer like me, catching pinkos and the like. Perhaps you could call round at MI5's place and let him know I'll be coming. Isn't it funny how spies have codenames like that. I wonder if MI6 is his brother. Provincially yours Jim |
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18 Sep 06 - 05:38 PM (#1837727) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: growler I was a prison officer for 26 years, and a folk singer formost of them |
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19 Sep 06 - 12:50 AM (#1837989) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Dave Hanson Anyone remember singer and banjo player John Hasted ? he was Brittains leading nuclear phycisist. eric |
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19 Sep 06 - 03:47 AM (#1838047) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Paul Burke A quantity surveyor was a specialist in estimating the size of the 1960s supermodel Mary Quant's breasts, or Quant titties. As you will see from the picture, this was a highly skilled occupation. |
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19 Sep 06 - 05:15 AM (#1838091) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: GUEST,Ruston Hornsby Recalling what somebody said in another thread, the most important thing regarding jobs as far as professional folk singers are concerned is that they have a partner who has a well paid one.... |
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19 Sep 06 - 09:06 AM (#1838244) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Vixen For women, along with Vielleuse's list of "pretty fair maid, single mother, nagging wife or prostitute" and going in drag after one's lover, there's also: Lady Mary, "so cold and so strange" Reilly's daughter (sweetheart of the battalion) Molly Malone (fishmonger) Darlin' Cory (moonshiner and gunslinger) Darlin' Nellie Gray (the beloved taken against her will) John Reilly's beloved (faithful beyond all reason) Unfortunately, an awful lot of women, regardless of occupation, end up murder victims in folksongs... V |
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19 Sep 06 - 02:03 PM (#1838457) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: frogprince Maybe it's the woman's own damn fault, if she's foolish enough to be in a folk song! |
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20 Sep 06 - 10:07 AM (#1839125) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Betsy Derek Brimstone has been a Taxi Driver, Vin Garbutt an Apprentice Fitter and Turner , but worked mostly in fashioning steel in a Lathe . Someone once told me that Dave Burland was a copper ( policeman ) Mike harding was, I believe, a teacher and did Martin Carthy start out as an actor?.A couple of the Original Dubliners had been municipal gardeners in Middlesbrough |
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20 Sep 06 - 10:23 AM (#1839140) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Big Al Whittle Prison officer sounds interesting Growler, did you write any songs about it? |
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21 Sep 06 - 05:37 AM (#1839817) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Crystal Flash girl Flash Lad Salt Sea Sailor Female Drummer boy Queen (of either sex) Lady fair/gay |
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21 Sep 06 - 09:10 AM (#1839926) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Willie-O OK, so a quantity surveyor is a faintly anachronistic title for what we in North America would refer to as a construction estimator/project manager. Or a general contractor. Depending on scale. To get back to the thread topic, it's ironic that it's so difficult to combine most traditional-song-occupations with a musical career. Cause basically you want a day job that pays well and doesn't take too much out of you, located in a fairly densely populated area but without a high cost of living. Cowboying, sailoring, lumbering, etc don't really make the grade although they are well worth doing on their own merits. I guess we're stuck with the 21st century despite ourselves. W-O |
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21 Sep 06 - 09:15 AM (#1839931) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: GUEST,squeezeme Rag and Bone man.... Any one remember Harry H Corbett??? MC |
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21 Sep 06 - 09:17 AM (#1839932) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: GUEST,Japanese Research Ship Owner whaler |
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21 Sep 06 - 11:01 AM (#1840040) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Scoville Yeah, you can laugh at those librarians until you need some reference help to track down variants of Child ballads. I also have a friend who, while not a librarian, works for a library and has made friends with the people who select the music acquisitions. Power where it counts, my friends. Most of the traditionally-acceptable folksinger occupations--cowboy, lumberjack, miner, engineer, hobo, convict--are either pretty outdated or are particularly hazardous for women, so I've had to settle for being one of those derided librarians. Well, sort of. I work in an archive (but I have to carry heavy boxes around, if that makes it more acceptable). I could probably take up one of the female folksong trades but most of them seem to be arrestable offenses. I've been a dishwasher and vet tech in the past and actually did come up with some song parodies about those. I know one guy who's a lawyer and another who's a judge. I think they're more folksingers and heart; the J.D.'s just the meal tickets. |
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21 Sep 06 - 11:41 AM (#1840084) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Liz the Squeak Bearing in mind the recent revelations about cowboys, I would humbly suggest that women are probably far safer out on the range with a few wranglers than anywhere near a bailiff, a poacher or taxidermist... LTS |
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21 Sep 06 - 05:46 PM (#1840305) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: growler Weelittledrummer, no I havn't written any songs, I was too busy being shat upon |
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22 Sep 06 - 09:44 AM (#1840795) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Uncle Phil A landsman, a pinsman, a tinker or a tailor, A doctor, a lawyer, a soldier or a sailor, A rich man, a poor man, a fool or a witty... but no gamblers, no crap shooters, no midnight ramblers. On second thought, midnight rambler sounds like a pretty good job. - Phil |
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22 Sep 06 - 10:36 AM (#1840824) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: skipy Bra fitter ! Skipy |
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22 Sep 06 - 11:27 AM (#1840876) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Fortunato what's all this about occupation? I'm against it on principle. besides it takes time away from my guitar playing... |
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22 Sep 06 - 04:01 PM (#1841042) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Scoville besides it takes time away from my guitar playing... Sigh. I know. |
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22 Sep 06 - 04:02 PM (#1841044) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: GUEST,DonMeixner Folksingers work? |
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22 Sep 06 - 04:20 PM (#1841055) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Tattie Bogle Who cares anyway? One of the great things about folk music is that it's a great leveller and classless, and probably the last thing anyone talks about is what their day job is. My profession has only been mentioned once above, and I usually keep quiet about it as I'm off duty when I'm folking. It sometimes features in my songs, which may give the game away. I also do some song-writing but don't have the background that some folk have to write a cutting edge song - miners, ship-builders, oil-riggers, shepherds, etc. My Dad was an insurance man, but I've still managed to write a song about it! |
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22 Sep 06 - 04:59 PM (#1841080) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Barry Finn Ya Chance, when the job gets in the way of music, give up the job. Barry |
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22 Sep 06 - 05:05 PM (#1841083) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Barry Finn Bob Roberts was a reporter, I believe, before he became the "singing bargeman". I guess he wanted to be a folksinger & went for an occupation that fitted his calling. Now, will someone just please buy me a sailing barge? Barry |
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25 Sep 06 - 06:37 AM (#1842709) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: Tattie Bogle But in one of his songs, he was "going to give up barging and take a farm"! Bit of a Hobson's choice, seeing what's happened to both industries! And Davy Steele had the same idea in "Farewell to the Haven" - "the drifters I'm leaving to work on the land". |
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25 Sep 06 - 10:15 AM (#1842866) Subject: RE: OK occupations for folksingers. From: DoctorJug Grave digger. |
